Amanda increment level?

2002-04-29 Thread Alexander Belik


I can't understand how amanda increment level?
For example
--disklist-
www sda1 comp-high # /
www sda2 comp-user-tar # /home
www sda3 comp-root # /usr
www sda5 comp-user-tar # /var
---
dumpcycle 7 days
runspercycle 9
tapecycle 1 tapes

Amanda first night made llevel 0 next night made level 1 next day
some partitions stay on level 1 some begin from level 0 and rest made 
level 2?


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Re: Amanda increment level?

2002-04-29 Thread Frank Smith

--On Tuesday, April 30, 2002 01:21:20 +0300 Alexander Belik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>
> I can't understand how amanda increment level?
> For example
> --disklist-
> www sda1 comp-high # /
> www sda2 comp-user-tar # /home
> www sda3 comp-root # /usr
> www sda5 comp-user-tar # /var
> ---
> dumpcycle 7 days
> runspercycle 9
> tapecycle 1 tapes
> 
> Amanda first night made llevel 0 next night made level 1 next day
> some partitions stay on level 1 some begin from level 0 and rest made
> level 2?
>
>
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You plan to run Amanda 9 times in 7 days using only 1 tape?

Frank

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Re: Amanda increment level?

2002-04-29 Thread Alexander Belik

On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Frank Smith wrote:

> --On Tuesday, April 30, 2002 01:21:20 +0300 Alexander Belik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>wrote:
> 
> >
> > I can't understand how amanda increment level?
> > For example
> > --disklist-
> > www sda1 comp-high # /
> > www sda2 comp-user-tar # /home
> > www sda3 comp-root # /usr
> > www sda5 comp-user-tar # /var
> > ---
> > dumpcycle 7 days
> > runspercycle 9
> > tapecycle 1 tapes
> > 
> > Amanda first night made llevel 0 next night made level 1 next day
> > some partitions stay on level 1 some begin from level 0 and rest made
> > level 2?
> 
> You plan to run Amanda 9 times in 7 days using only 1 tape?

I plan to use 1 type per week! 1 type per cycle

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Re: Amanda increment level?

2002-04-29 Thread Alexander Belik

On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Jay Lessert wrote:

> > Amanda first night made llevel 0 next night made level 1 next day
> > some partitions stay on level 1 some begin from level 0 and rest made 
> > level 2?
> 
> That's right.  In general, amanda will try to make sure you get:
> 
> 1)  At least one level 0 every dumpcycle days.
> 
> 2)  At least two level 0's over tapecycle tapes (so that
> if a single tape fails there is another level 0, even
>   if it might be a little old).
> 
> 3)  Incrementals (level 1-9) will be used as convenient; the
> levels will increase if that is necessary to achieve 1) and
>   2).
> 
> You've given amanda an unconventional configuration.  You're telling
> it:
> 
> dumpcycle 7 days
> Give me at least one level 0 on each disklist entry every 7 days
> (this part is conventional).
> 
> runspercycle 9
> Over that 7 days, I intend to run amdump 9 times.  That part is
> unconventional.

But if I wont to run 7 times in 7 days?  This is conditional?

> The usual use for runspercycle != dumpcycle would be something like
> dumpcycle=7, runspercycle=5 (e.g, I want a level 0 every week, but
> I'm only going to run amdump on Monday-Friday, not Saturday or
> Sunday).
 
> tapecycle 1 tapes
> No, no, no.  tapecycle is the total number of tapes you want in
> your rotation.  For example, if your amanda runs all fit on
> a single tape and you run amdump 7 days/week, then:
> dumpcycle 7 days
> tapecycle 14 tapes
> You label 14 tapes, you always carry at least two level 0's.

:) Will Amanda ask me for a new type when  new dumpcycle begin?
Or I must do it manualy?
 

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Re: Amanda increment level?

2002-04-29 Thread Jon LaBadie

On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 06:13:21AM +0300, Alexander Belik wrote:
> 
> :) Will Amanda ask me for a new type when  new dumpcycle begin?
> Or I must do it manualy?
>  
>>> End of included message <<<

Alexander,

Amanda uses a different model/concept than you are trying to fit on her.

First, amanda expects each run of amdump will be on its own set of tapes.
This means several tapes are in a rotation known as a tape cycle.  My
tape cycle is 18 tapes.

Amanda will NOT add one dump to the end of a tape containing a previous
dump.  It will either refuse to use the tape (if your config says it is
not time to reuse the tape) or it will overwrite the old data with a
new amdump.  Having a tapecycle of 1 means the next dump always destroys
the ONLY dump you currently have.  A definite NO-NO :)

Second, amanda does not synchronize the levels of dump of each file system
with each other one.  Instead, each file system is scheduled independently
with an aim of keeping the total size of each amdump run consistant.
So you should excpect to see a mixture of levels in each amdump run.

Third, to answer your specific question, no it will not ask.  That sounds
like you expect an interactive session.  Amanda is designed to be run
automatically on a scheduled basis (like my 2 AM nightly backup).  And
I'm not "always" here at 2 AM :)

Instead, each amdump run generates a report, generally emailed to the admin,
saying what tape it used and what tape it expects to have available the next
amdump run.  If that tape is not available for the next run, amanda complains
(in the email report) and tries to do what she can.  A common outcome is that
the new amdump get written to a disk area known as the "holding disk" and
can later be "amflush'ed" to the proper tape.

HTH

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Re: Amanda increment level?

2002-04-30 Thread Alexander Belik

On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Jon LaBadie wrote:

> > :) Will Amanda ask me for a new type when  new dumpcycle begin?
> > Or I must do it manualy?
> 
> First, amanda expects each run of amdump will be on its own set of tapes.
> This means several tapes are in a rotation known as a tape cycle.  My
> tape cycle is 18 tapes.

Ok! Thx!

> Amanda will NOT add one dump to the end of a tape containing a previous
> dump.  It will either refuse to use the tape (if your config says it is
> not time to reuse the tape) or it will overwrite the old data with a
> new amdump.  Having a tapecycle of 1 means the next dump always destroys
> the ONLY dump you currently have.  A definite NO-NO :)

So I must chage my types avery day (when amdump)? 

> Second, amanda does not synchronize the levels of dump of each file system
> with each other one.  Instead, each file system is scheduled independently
> with an aim of keeping the total size of each amdump run consistant.
> So you should excpect to see a mixture of levels in each amdump run.

:) Thanks! I understand! Amanda decide when do a next level (depending on 
size only?) and avery dumpcycle runs level 0 dump! I'am right?

> Third, to answer your specific question, no it will not ask.  That sounds
> like you expect an interactive session.  Amanda is designed to be run
> automatically on a scheduled basis (like my 2 AM nightly backup).  And
> I'm not "always" here at 2 AM :)

Amnada after avery backup generate a report with line:
---
The next tape Amanda expects to use is: AUTH2

So, I understand because "tapecycle 1 tapes"?

> Instead, each amdump run generates a report, generally emailed to the admin,
> saying what tape it used and what tape it expects to have available the next
> amdump run.  If that tape is not available for the next run, amanda complains
> (in the email report) and tries to do what she can.  A common outcome is that
> the new amdump get written to a disk area known as the "holding disk" and
> can later be "amflush'ed" to the proper tape.

I know this! Thanks!

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