Partitioning for amanda

2002-04-25 Thread Buchan Milne

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We are just about to start on the upgrade of our Linux file server. When
we are done, it will have:

- -Approx 100GB SCSI RAID (approx 40% capacity utilised)
- -Approx 45GB IDE RAID (approx 60% utilised)
- -Approx 45GB IDE dumping disk
- -6*20GB(40GB with hardware compression claimed) HP autoloader
- -Additional servers totalling approx 100GB, no disk greater than 
approx 30GB
- -Workstations, none with more than 5GB of data to back up.

I would like to know what limitations this setup will place on our
partitioning of the 100GB SCSI RAID.

We are planning on using XFS over LVM (if possible), but I would like to
try and get the partitioning correct the first time (since I now have
spare unpartitioned space to juggle data on).

Apparently Amanda can not span tapes, and it seems the first dump needs
to be of the full filesystem. Does this mean, in my case, that no
partition should contain more than 30GB (all I can reliably get onto a
tape using hardware compression) of data?

Regards,
Buchan
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Re: Partitioning for amanda

2002-04-25 Thread John Dalbec



Buchan Milne wrote:
 
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 We are just about to start on the upgrade of our Linux file server. When
 we are done, it will have:
 
 - -Approx 100GB SCSI RAID (approx 40% capacity utilised)
 - -Approx 45GB IDE RAID (approx 60% utilised)
 - -Approx 45GB IDE dumping disk
 - -6*20GB(40GB with hardware compression claimed) HP autoloader
 - -Additional servers totalling approx 100GB, no disk greater than
 approx 30GB
 - -Workstations, none with more than 5GB of data to back up.
 
 I would like to know what limitations this setup will place on our
 partitioning of the 100GB SCSI RAID.
 
 We are planning on using XFS over LVM (if possible), but I would like to
 try and get the partitioning correct the first time (since I now have
 spare unpartitioned space to juggle data on).
 
 Apparently Amanda can not span tapes, and it seems the first dump needs
 to be of the full filesystem. Does this mean, in my case, that no
 partition should contain more than 30GB (all I can reliably get onto a
 tape using hardware compression) of data?

If you intend to use xfsdump to dump the partitions, then yes.
If you intend to use tar, then you can partition any way you like.
 
 Regards,
 Buchan
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Re: Partitioning for amanda

2002-04-25 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain

On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 at 4:27pm, Buchan Milne wrote

 We are just about to start on the upgrade of our Linux file server. When
 we are done, it will have:
 
 - -Approx 100GB SCSI RAID (approx 40% capacity utilised)
 - -Approx 45GB IDE RAID (approx 60% utilised)
 - -Approx 45GB IDE dumping disk
 - -6*20GB(40GB with hardware compression claimed) HP autoloader
 - -Additional servers totalling approx 100GB, no disk greater than 
 approx 30GB
 - -Workstations, none with more than 5GB of data to back up.
 
 I would like to know what limitations this setup will place on our
 partitioning of the 100GB SCSI RAID.

While it's true that amanda can't span tapes with a single disklist entry, 
you don't *have* to back up the whole RAID at once.  You're only limited 
to backing up partitions if you use dump (which some people have issues 
with on Linux).  If you're willing (and your tests back you up) to use 
tar, you can break that RAID up into as many disklist entries as you like.  
That's what I do to back up our 560GB (93% utilized, damnit) RAID onto 
35GB native AIT1 tapes.

-- 
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University




Re: Partitioning for amanda

2002-04-25 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain

On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 at 10:58am, Joshua Baker-LePain wrote

 On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 at 4:27pm, Buchan Milne wrote
 
  We are just about to start on the upgrade of our Linux file server. When
  we are done, it will have:
  
  - -Approx 100GB SCSI RAID (approx 40% capacity utilised)
  - -Approx 45GB IDE RAID (approx 60% utilised)
  - -Approx 45GB IDE dumping disk
  - -6*20GB(40GB with hardware compression claimed) HP autoloader
  - -Additional servers totalling approx 100GB, no disk greater than 
  approx 30GB
  - -Workstations, none with more than 5GB of data to back up.
  
  I would like to know what limitations this setup will place on our
  partitioning of the 100GB SCSI RAID.
 
 While it's true that amanda can't span tapes with a single disklist entry, 
 you don't *have* to back up the whole RAID at once.  You're only limited 
 to backing up partitions if you use dump (which some people have issues 
 with on Linux).  If you're willing (and your tests back you up) to use 

Oops -- I missed the XFS bit.  xfsdump on Linux works just fine, and has 
the advantage of backing up any ACLs or EAs you may be using on that fs.  
If you're not using those, then tar should work just as well.  Sorry 'bout 
that.

-- 
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University




Re: Partitioning for amanda

2002-04-25 Thread Tom Beer

I would say that it depends on your 
storage space :-) The ration, if compressed
should not be calculated 1:2. A better
estimate would be 1:1,5 or even lower.
I would do my calculation on the amount
of the disc not on the capacitiy utilised at the
moment.

Greets Tom