Re: Linux (Debian) and large files?

2001-02-06 Thread Christoph Scheeder

Hi,
i know it is possible, i'm doing it for some packages,
but you need to know very good what you are doing. 
For example i have seen alien messing up all 
permisions for the files in an rpm-package completly, 
making the resulting .dpkg completly unusable.
And with rpm you loose all dependencies
But thats a little off-topic i think ;-)
Christoph

Paul Lussier schrieb:
> 
> On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 11:30:36PM +0100, Christoph Scheeder wrote:
> > Hi,
> > sorry to interupt,but debian does not use rpm packageformat.
> > it has it own format called dpkg, so www.rpmfind.com is a bad idea...
> 
> No, it's not necessarilly a bad idea.  You can still use RPMs with Debian.
> Either by installing the rpm .deb and manually using rpm to install it, or
> by using alien to convert the rpm to deb and then using dpkg to install the
> resultant .dep package.
> 
> Seeya,
> Paul
> 
> It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing,
>but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away.
> 
>  If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right!



Re: Linux (Debian) and large files?

2001-02-06 Thread Christoph Scheeder

Hi,
ok, i checked it a bit deeper and found the following:
if you need large files (>2GB) under linux, the simplest solution
is yust to install kernel-2.4.1 . it supports large files for all 
filesystems, and amanda detects it correct at configure-time.
Christoph

"John R. Jackson" schrieb:
> 
> >all he has to do, is setting chunksize to something like 2000 MB
> 
> It wasn't clear to me whether Stan was worried about just Amanda or his
> whole system.  You're right that if all he is worried about are the
> holding disk files, setting the chunksize down will take care of it.
> But if he is worried about big files in general, he may need to use one
> of the other file system types or "kernel-enterprise" (whatever that is).
> 
> >Christoph
> 
> John R. Jackson, Technical Software Specialist, [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Linux (Debian) and large files?

2001-02-06 Thread Paul Lussier

On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 11:30:36PM +0100, Christoph Scheeder wrote:
> Hi,
> sorry to interupt,but debian does not use rpm packageformat.
> it has it own format called dpkg, so www.rpmfind.com is a bad idea...

No, it's not necessarilly a bad idea.  You can still use RPMs with Debian.
Either by installing the rpm .deb and manually using rpm to install it, or
by using alien to convert the rpm to deb and then using dpkg to install the
resultant .dep package.

Seeya,
Paul

It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing,
   but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away.

 If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right!



Re: Linux (Debian) and large files?

2001-02-06 Thread Josep Llauradó Selvas


The 2.2.x kernels don't support by default files larger than 2Gb, but you
can apply a patch called 'LFS' or you can download the lattest kernel from
the 2.4.x series, that includes the patch into the kernel.

The Debian 2.4.x kernels can be found at www.valinux.com... 
At:
ftp://ftp.valinux.com/pub/kernel/2.4.0-alpha1/debs/

or you can create it using the make-kpkg command...

Good Luck!

On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Renato R. Santana wrote:

 On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Stan Brown wrote:
 
 > On Mon Feb  5 06:26:41 2001 Renato R. Santana wrote...
 > >
 > >On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Stan Brown wrote:
 > >
 > >>   I am fixing to move a fair sized Amanda site from HP-UX to Linux 
(Debian
 > >>   Potato) for it;s tapehost.
 > >> 
 > >>   I have files > 2G, what special things do I need to do to make the 
Linux
 > >>   machine handle these largefiles?
 > >
 > >You may use a kernel-enterprise for that. It also supports Terabytes of
 > >memmory.
 > >
 > 
 >  Sorry, I am not familair with what a "kernel-enterprise" is. Can you
 >  enlighten me?
 
 Sure. This kernel version includes a kernel that has appropriate
 configuration options enabled for the typical large enterprise
 server.  This includes SMP support for multiple processor machines,
 support for large memory configurations, support for large file I/O, and
 other appropriate items.
 
 Look for a package called kernel-enterprise. If your distribution does not
 have it, try www.rpmfind.com (looking for "kernel-enterprise").
 
 > 
 > -- 
 > Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]843-745-3154
 > Charleston SC.
 > -- 
 > Windows 98: n.
 >  useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and
 >  a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system
 >  originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit 
 >  company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
 > -
 > (c) 2000 Stan Brown.  Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited.
 > 
 
 Cheers,
 
 --
 Renato Santana
 

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Re: Linux (Debian) and large files?

2001-02-05 Thread John R. Jackson

>all he has to do, is setting chunksize to something like 2000 MB 

It wasn't clear to me whether Stan was worried about just Amanda or his
whole system.  You're right that if all he is worried about are the
holding disk files, setting the chunksize down will take care of it.
But if he is worried about big files in general, he may need to use one
of the other file system types or "kernel-enterprise" (whatever that is).

>Christoph

John R. Jackson, Technical Software Specialist, [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Linux (Debian) and large files?

2001-02-05 Thread Christoph Scheeder

Hi,
sorry to interupt,but debian does not use rpm packageformat.
it has it own format called dpkg, so www.rpmfind.com is a bad idea...
all he has to do, is setting chunksize to something like 2000 MB 
(NOT 2GB, that won't work)
have a nice day
Christoph

"Renato R. Santana" schrieb:
> 
> On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Stan Brown wrote:
> 
> > On Mon Feb  5 06:26:41 2001 Renato R. Santana wrote...
> > >
> > >On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Stan Brown wrote:
> > >
> > >>I am fixing to move a fair sized Amanda site from HP-UX to Linux (Debian
> > >>Potato) for it;s tapehost.
> > >>
> > >>I have files > 2G, what special things do I need to do to make the Linux
> > >>machine handle these largefiles?
> > >
> > >You may use a kernel-enterprise for that. It also supports Terabytes of
> > >memmory.
> > >
> >
> >   Sorry, I am not familair with what a "kernel-enterprise" is. Can you
> >   enlighten me?
> 
> Sure. This kernel version includes a kernel that has appropriate
> configuration options enabled for the typical large enterprise
> server.  This includes SMP support for multiple processor machines,
> support for large memory configurations, support for large file I/O, and
> other appropriate items.
> 
> Look for a package called kernel-enterprise. If your distribution does not
> have it, try www.rpmfind.com (looking for "kernel-enterprise").
> 
> >
> > --
> > Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]843-745-3154
> > Charleston SC.
> > --
> > Windows 98: n.
> >   useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and
> >   a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system
> >   originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit
> >   company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
> > -
> > (c) 2000 Stan Brown.  Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited.
> >
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> --
> Renato Santana



Re: Linux (Debian) and large files?

2001-02-05 Thread Renato R. Santana

On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Stan Brown wrote:

> On Mon Feb  5 06:26:41 2001 Renato R. Santana wrote...
> >
> >On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Stan Brown wrote:
> >
> >>I am fixing to move a fair sized Amanda site from HP-UX to Linux (Debian
> >>Potato) for it;s tapehost.
> >> 
> >>I have files > 2G, what special things do I need to do to make the Linux
> >>machine handle these largefiles?
> >
> >You may use a kernel-enterprise for that. It also supports Terabytes of
> >memmory.
> >
> 
>   Sorry, I am not familair with what a "kernel-enterprise" is. Can you
>   enlighten me?

Sure. This kernel version includes a kernel that has appropriate
configuration options enabled for the typical large enterprise
server.  This includes SMP support for multiple processor machines,
support for large memory configurations, support for large file I/O, and
other appropriate items.

Look for a package called kernel-enterprise. If your distribution does not
have it, try www.rpmfind.com (looking for "kernel-enterprise").

> 
> -- 
> Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]843-745-3154
> Charleston SC.
> -- 
> Windows 98: n.
>   useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and
>   a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system
>   originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit 
>   company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
> -
> (c) 2000 Stan Brown.  Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited.
> 

Cheers,

--
Renato Santana




Re: Linux (Debian) and large files?

2001-02-05 Thread Stan Brown

On Mon Feb  5 06:26:41 2001 Renato R. Santana wrote...
>
>On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Stan Brown wrote:
>
>>  I am fixing to move a fair sized Amanda site from HP-UX to Linux (Debian
>>  Potato) for it;s tapehost.
>> 
>>  I have files > 2G, what special things do I need to do to make the Linux
>>  machine handle these largefiles?
>
>You may use a kernel-enterprise for that. It also supports Terabytes of
>memmory.
>

Sorry, I am not familair with what a "kernel-enterprise" is. Can you
enlighten me?

-- 
Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]843-745-3154
Charleston SC.
-- 
Windows 98: n.
useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and
a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system
originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit 
company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
-
(c) 2000 Stan Brown.  Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited.



Re: Linux (Debian) and large files?

2001-02-05 Thread Renato R. Santana

On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Stan Brown wrote:

>   I am fixing to move a fair sized Amanda site from HP-UX to Linux (Debian
>   Potato) for it;s tapehost.
> 
>   I have files > 2G, what special things do I need to do to make the Linux
>   machine handle these largefiles?

You may use a kernel-enterprise for that. It also supports Terabytes of
memmory.

> 
> -- 
> Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]843-745-3154
> Charleston SC.
> -- 
> Windows 98: n.
>   useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and
>   a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system
>   originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit 
>   company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
> -
> (c) 2000 Stan Brown.  Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited.
> 

Cheers,

--
Renato Santana