RE: Use multiple drives in tape robot
Thanks for all the responses, pretty much confirming what I thought. I haven't done anything special with the ports yet though, both configs seem to run together just fine, but I haven't got multiple clients involved in this config, I'm just testing out the concepts. I need to look at port ranges etc. next as if we start using Amanda more widely then firewalls will definitely be involved and will need to be locked down as far as possible. regards, Phil -Original Message- I'll just add that you must also configure amanda such that both configs use different ports with '--with-testing=config1' and '--with-testing=config2' and add those to /etc/services like amanda-config110080/tcp amanda-config110080/udp amanda-config210081/tcp amanda-config210081/udp Depending on the authentication scheme you decide to use you might have to specify the udp and tcp port range so that both config don't overlap. Look for '--with-tcpportrange=' and '--with-udpportrange=' There is no provision for the access of the robotic device. At some point I had 7 config on the same robot and I had surprisingly little contention between the different amanda configs accessing the robot arm. hth jf - Egg is a trading name of the Egg group of companies which includes: Egg plc (reg no 2448340), Egg Financial Intermediation Ltd (reg no 3828289), and Egg Banking plc (reg no 2999842). Egg Banking plc and Egg Financial Intermediation Ltd are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority (FSA) and are entered in the FSA register under numbers 205621 and 309551 respectively. These members of the Egg group are registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Citigroup Centre, Canada Square, London E14 5LB. This e-mail is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail and have received it in error, please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete it from your mailbox. Internet e-mails are not necessarily secure. The Egg group of companies do not accept responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. Whilst all reasonable care has been taken to avoid the transmission of viruses, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that the onward transmission, opening or use of this message and any attachments will not adversely affect its systems or data. No responsibility is accepted by the Egg group of companies in this regard and the recipient should carry out such virus and other checks as it considers appropriate. This communication does not create or modify any contract.
Re: Use multiple drives in tape robot
--with-testing was needed with amanda 2.4.* if a client could be accessed by 2 different config at the same time. --with-testing is not needed with amanda-2.5.*, the amandad deamon allow multiple request simultaneously. Jean-Louis Jean-Francois Malouin wrote: I'll just add that you must also configure amanda such that both configs use different ports with '--with-testing=config1' and '--with-testing=config2' and add those to /etc/services like amanda-config110080/tcp amanda-config110080/udp amanda-config210081/tcp amanda-config210081/udp Depending on the authentication scheme you decide to use you might have to specify the udp and tcp port range so that both config don't overlap. Look for '--with-tcpportrange=' and '--with-udpportrange=' There is no provision for the access of the robotic device. At some point I had 7 config on the same robot and I had surprisingly little contention between the different amanda configs accessing the robot arm. hth jf
Re: Use multiple drives in tape robot
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 at 4:58pm, Weber, Philip wrote Is it possible to have 2 configs using 2 separate drives in a tape robot, i.e. can they share the changer interface? I don't mean use of RAIT. I have successfully set up 1 config with chg-zd-mtx then tried duplicating that to a 2nd config using chg-zd-mtx with a different set of tapes in the robot, and the other drive. This was successful, except one of the amdumps failed on the first calling saying no writable tape could be found; it worked on the 2nd calling so I suspect there is a clash with 2 configs trying to access the changer. I do exactly this, and have never seen a collision. I kick off the 2 amdumps 5 minutes apart. Be sure to assign each config its own set of slots. -- Joshua Baker-LePain Department of Biomedical Engineering Duke University
Re: Use multiple drives in tape robot
On Tuesday 26 June 2007 11:58:00 Weber, Philip wrote: Is it possible to have 2 configs using 2 separate drives in a tape robot, i.e. can they share the changer interface? I don't mean use of RAIT. The answer to your question is yes, but you must ensure that only one instance of mtx is running at a time. If your configurations each use one tape only, then it should be safe to start them at different times, as Joshua has suggested. If you have runtapes 1 for both configurations (and maybe even if not), you might consider wrapping MTX in a short script to ensure that only one copy runs at a time. --Ian I have successfully set up 1 config with chg-zd-mtx then tried duplicating that to a 2nd config using chg-zd-mtx with a different set of tapes in the robot, and the other drive. This was successful, except one of the amdumps failed on the first calling saying no writable tape could be found; it worked on the 2nd calling so I suspect there is a clash with 2 configs trying to access the changer. Or am I barking up the wrong tree, is there a better way to do this (one of the other changer scripts?) or is it just not possible/supported? Thanks for any info or suggestions as to where in the documentation I should be looking. Phil Phil Weber Business Technology (Egg) Storage Technical Services - Senior UNIX Technologist Phone: 01384 26 4136 - Egg is a trading name of the Egg group of companies which includes: Egg plc (reg no 2448340), Egg Financial Intermediation Ltd (reg no 3828289), and Egg Banking plc (reg no 2999842). Egg Banking plc and Egg Financial Intermediation Ltd are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority (FSA) and are entered in the FSA register under numbers 205621 and 309551 respectively. These members of the Egg group are registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Citigroup Centre, Canada Square, London E14 5LB. This e-mail is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail and have received it in error, please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete it from your mailbox. Internet e-mails are not necessarily secure. The Egg group of companies do not accept responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. Whilst all reasonable care has been taken to avoid the transmission of viruses, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that the onward transmission, opening or use of this message and any attachments will not adversely affect its systems or data. No responsibility is accepted by the Egg group of companies in this regard and the recipient should carry out such virus and other checks as it considers appropriate. This communication does not create or modify any contract. -- Forums for Amanda discussion: http://forums.zmanda.com/
Re: Use multiple drives in tape robot
* Joshua Baker-LePain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20070626 12:32]: On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 at 4:58pm, Weber, Philip wrote Is it possible to have 2 configs using 2 separate drives in a tape robot, i.e. can they share the changer interface? I don't mean use of RAIT. I have successfully set up 1 config with chg-zd-mtx then tried duplicating that to a 2nd config using chg-zd-mtx with a different set of tapes in the robot, and the other drive. This was successful, except one of the amdumps failed on the first calling saying no writable tape could be found; it worked on the 2nd calling so I suspect there is a clash with 2 configs trying to access the changer. I do exactly this, and have never seen a collision. I kick off the 2 amdumps 5 minutes apart. Be sure to assign each config its own set of slots. I'll just add that you must also configure amanda such that both configs use different ports with '--with-testing=config1' and '--with-testing=config2' and add those to /etc/services like amanda-config110080/tcp amanda-config110080/udp amanda-config210081/tcp amanda-config210081/udp Depending on the authentication scheme you decide to use you might have to specify the udp and tcp port range so that both config don't overlap. Look for '--with-tcpportrange=' and '--with-udpportrange=' There is no provision for the access of the robotic device. At some point I had 7 config on the same robot and I had surprisingly little contention between the different amanda configs accessing the robot arm. hth jf -- Joshua Baker-LePain Department of Biomedical Engineering Duke University -- °
Re: Use multiple drives in tape robot
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 at 12:57pm, Jean-Francois Malouin wrote I'll just add that you must also configure amanda such that both configs use different ports with '--with-testing=config1' and '--with-testing=config2' and add those to /etc/services like amanda-config110080/tcp amanda-config110080/udp amanda-config210081/tcp amanda-config210081/udp Depending on the authentication scheme you decide to use you might have to specify the udp and tcp port range so that both config don't overlap. Look for '--with-tcpportrange=' and '--with-udpportrange=' Hmm. Is that on the server or the client side? I didn't do any such magic, but I don't have any clients that are in both configs. Also, I'm still using 2.4.5p1. -- Joshua Baker-LePain Department of Biomedical Engineering Duke University