Re: Will retry behavior again

2005-09-01 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 02:40:14PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Also, I'm positive, that we had enough space for holding disk to hold
 this particuar FS. Why did it start directly to tape (log's the very
 first line)? 

Have you adjusted the holding disk reserve parameter?
By default it reserves 100% for incrementals in case of
degraded operation (eg. no tape available).

In my case, the holding disk can store several days
worth of normal backups, full and incremental.  So I've
adjusted the reserve down to 10 or 20%.

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Re: Will retry behavior again

2005-09-01 Thread dobryanskaya
Actually it was set to 0, since I it suppose to be archival dump(no 
incremental) 
 Jon LaBadie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 02:40:14PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  Also, I'm positive, that we had enough space for holding disk to hold
  this particuar FS. Why did it start directly to tape (log's the very
  first line)? 
 
 Have you adjusted the holding disk reserve parameter?
 By default it reserves 100% for incrementals in case of
 degraded operation (eg. no tape available).
 
 In my case, the holding disk can store several days
 worth of normal backups, full and incremental.  So I've
 adjusted the reserve down to 10 or 20%.
 
 -- 
 Jon H. LaBadie  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  JG Computing
  4455 Province Line Road(609) 252-0159
  Princeton, NJ  08540-4322  (609) 683-7220 (fax)



Re: Will retry behavior again

2005-09-01 Thread Paul Bijnens

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taper: wrote label `weekly3' date `20050901'
dumper: kill index command
driver: result time 39992.417 from dumper0: FAILED 00-00029 [data write: Connection 
reset by peer]
driver: result time 39992.417 from taper: TRY-AGAIN 00-00029 [writing file: No 
space left on device]
driver: error time 39992.429 serial gen mismatch
^^^
--
so, AMANDA advanced to the next tape, the taper request to retry was
actually made, but serial gen mismatch has happend.


Driver keeps a table of which dumper is handling what.
When it receives a command it also checks the table 
dumper-number-to-current-filesystem-it-is-handling.

The 00029  is the generation number.
Fine.

First it receives a FAILED from dumper0, and thus it frees the table
entry, effectively setting generation number to 0, to indicate it's
doing nothing.

Less than a microsecond later, it receives a TRY-AGAIN from taper,
which is referring to the same generation number, but which was
freed just before.  So amanda says that it received a command for
which the generation number did not match.

OK, that explains the error message and what it means.

The strange thing above seems the order of the events.
When bumping into EOT, I would expect the sequence:
- First taper bumps into end of tape:
  taper:  TRY-AGAIN 00-00029 [...No space left on device]
- then driver says to port-dumper:
  kill whatever you're doing
  driver: ABORT 00-00029   This command is missing above!!!
  dumper: kill index command

But the kill index comes in first, followed by driver saying
it failed here, then followed by taper saying tape is full.
From this sequence, it seems amanda made the correct decision to
not try again what taper instructed, because dumper signalled a
fatal error first.

Why would that happen???  I don't know.


I searched google for the phrase - and did not find anything helpful about this error. 
Does anybody know what is this error means and how to deal with it? 



Also, I'm positive, that we had enough space for holding disk to hold
this particuar FS. Why did it start directly to tape (log's the very
first line)?


Shot in the dark: maybe a holdingdisk no in the dumptype?
See the output of amadmin weekly disklist hercules.

Another shot in the dark: what version of amanda is the server?
Older versions had also a notion of negative chunksize: dumps larger
than the absolute value of chunksize were portdump too.  Maybe you
have a negative chunksize?  The same older versions of amanda could
also port-dump when chunksize was omitted.  This is all from memory
I don't even have an old man page around (except in my archive backups :-)
Amanda 2.4.2 already has no more support for negative chunksizes
(and warns if you use them).

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Re: Will retry behavior again

2005-09-01 Thread Vera



Paul, 

we are running amanda v.2.4.5, on FC3. These are 
forced full dumps (dumplevel 0). I do not use negative chuncksize, but I do use 
negative "usedisk" (when you set how much of a disk must stay un-occupied by 
disk images). Do you think it may be somehow related? 
Also, I double-checked for "reserve" (set to 0) and 
"holdingdisk" was default (meaning I did not touch it at all before this last 
run, and now I set itexplicitly to "yes"). We also cleared some HDD space, 
and I'm going to create a second holding disk. 
Is there anything you (all) can think ofI 
must do before the next weekly run? 

  The strange thing above seems the 
order of the events. When bumping into EOT, I would expect the 
sequence: - First taper bumps into end of tape: 
taper: TRY-AGAIN 00-00029 [...No space left on device] - then 
driver says to port-dumper: kill whatever you're 
doing driver: ABORT 00-00029 
 This command is missing above!!! dumper: kill index 
command
Here is what I found 
strange: 
1) it was taping to the tape 2(weekly2), 

2) when received the NODEVICE, 
adjusted to weekly3, which is a new tape(!), no dumps were done to it so far, 
and then 
3) kill index-FAILED-TRY 
AGAIN-mismatch. 

I would expect the sequesnce to be 
1) tape: weekly2, NODEVICE(?), FAILED
2) load tape weekly3
3) TRY AGAIN-whatever...

The same happend for another DLE, when amanda 
adjusted from weekly1 to weekly2 - that DLE was has failed as well. The saddest 
part is that the biggest DLE are tend to fail. I really do not want to 
splitthis configuration into two, and currently thinking about writing a 
script which would check if any DLE has failed, adjust the configuration and 
force the dump on the same day. I realize this sounds awkward, but I do 
not see any other solution. Do you?

Thanks
Vera