User size caps

2004-03-08 Thread Daniel Bentley
Currently running Amanda for backups of desktop shares.  The problem we 
come across is amount of tape used by certain individuals (mostly of the 
'managerial persuasion').  We have asked these individuals to limit the 
size of data kept in their shares many times, but they always 'creep up' 
above this size, to the point that they start affecting the other backups, 
come their rotation for a full backup.

Is there any way to put a 'size cap' on the amount of data being backed up 
from one particular source (or -all- sources, at that)?  There's a big 
difference between 'Could you keep the size of the share you want backed 
up to X?' and 'There is a limit to back up sizes of X.  Anything you have 
above this WILL NOT be backed up...'

-- 
Daniel Bentley - Network Technician, QSI Corporation (www.qsicorp.com)
Exploits care not whence the clicks come...


Re: User size caps

2004-03-08 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain
On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 at 11:29am, Daniel Bentley wrote

 Currently running Amanda for backups of desktop shares.  The problem we 
 come across is amount of tape used by certain individuals (mostly of the 
 'managerial persuasion').  We have asked these individuals to limit the 
 size of data kept in their shares many times, but they always 'creep up' 
 above this size, to the point that they start affecting the other backups, 
 come their rotation for a full backup.
 
 Is there any way to put a 'size cap' on the amount of data being backed up 
 from one particular source (or -all- sources, at that)?  There's a big 
 difference between 'Could you keep the size of the share you want backed 
 up to X?' and 'There is a limit to back up sizes of X.  Anything you have 
 above this WILL NOT be backed up...'

Sounds like a job for quotas to me.  I can't really think of a way of 
enforcing this with amanda.

-- 
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University


Re: User size caps

2004-03-08 Thread Patrick Michael Kane
* Joshua Baker-LePain ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040308 11:48]:
 On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 at 11:29am, Daniel Bentley wrote
  Is there any way to put a 'size cap' on the amount of data being backed up 
  from one particular source (or -all- sources, at that)?  There's a big 
  difference between 'Could you keep the size of the share you want backed 
  up to X?' and 'There is a limit to back up sizes of X.  Anything you have 
  above this WILL NOT be backed up...'
 
 Sounds like a job for quotas to me.  I can't really think of a way of 
 enforcing this with amanda.

The only thing I could suggest would be dynamically generating an
excludes file on the target based on disk space utilization.

Not exactly built-in to amanda, but a little less harsh than quotas
(although I wouldn't want to be the system administrator (or his boss)
when one of the managerial types loses a file and can't get it
back...).

Best,
-- 
Patrick Michael Kane
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: User size caps

2004-03-08 Thread Daniel Bentley
 Isn't this situation better suited by implementing disk quota ?

Unfortunately, the sources in question are Windows shares based on desktop 
machines.  Hence our real, 'direct' control is limited to the server side 
(via. some kind of 'size throttling' through Amanda and/or SMB), or in 
creating a special 'shared backup partition' on each machine, size 
regulation coming from the physical size of the partition.  The idea of 
'size throttling' would be much more dynamic than physical partitions, but 
it's the 'kludgibility' of such that doesn't look too promising thusfar...

-- 
Daniel Bentley - Network Technician, QSI Corporation (www.qsicorp.com)
Exploits care not whence the clicks come...