Re: [AMaViS-user] Problem with Postfix aliases and amavis per-user spam and virus policies
Noel Jones wrote: At 08:58 AM 6/8/2006, Valentin Schmid - ICSurselva AG wrote: Unfortunatelly the aliases will be interpreted by postfix after the mailfiltering, so amavisd-new can't select the different policies per user. How do I change this? Remove the no_address_mappings from main.cf, and add it to the existing receive_override_options in master.cf. This will turn off the rewriting after amavisd-new. # master.cf 127.0.0.1:10025 inet n-n--smtpd -o content_filter= ... -o receive_override_options=no_header_body_checks,no_unknown_recipient_checks,no_address_mappings Thanks a lot. It seems to work like expected. -- Valentin Schmid [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel.: ++41 81 936 03 75 Fax: ++41 81 936 03 76 ICSurselva AG - Internet Intranet Solutions ___ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
Re: [AMaViS-user] Ignore first upstream client
Clifton Royston wrote: On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 01:16:46AM +0200, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: Hi all, I'm moving our content filtering from the frontend smtp-servers to an inside relay. After a test, I can see that while it seems to work ok, all spam is marked Spam from local ip-of frontend smtp. How can I tell amavisd to ignore our incoming servers and report the first external relay instead? All are running postfix 2.2 or 2.3 and amavisd-new-2.4.1. ext-smtp-smtp/amavis-mail server port 25 10024 25 If I understand the question correctly, I think you want to configure internal_networks in the correct location for your SpamAssassin local.cf file. Yes, it definitely looks like it but I still get SPAM FROM LOCAL [frontend-ip] [EMAIL PROTECTED] even with internal_networks in local.cf. When you say correct location, does it mean it has to go into a certain place in local.cf? Also, I assume this parameter is SA and not amavis so the proper place to ask should be the SA-list... ___ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
Re: [AMaViS-user] Adding headers on email
I tried to send the reply yesterday with the result of the search in the log file attached in a txt file but it was delayed until moderator approval. Sorry for the long message Gary V escribió: Raul wrote: The server is a mail gateway that processes all incoming/outgoing mail and then forwards them to the destination server. Amavis calls spamd after mail has been processed. Spamd is running Amavis uses Mail::SpamAssassin Perl module directly and does not pass mail to spamd and does not require spamd to be running. How have you configured your system to pass mail to spamd? If you are sending mail to spamd after amavisd-new has processed it then that might explain why the headers were apparently once there (as evidenced by mail in your quarantine) but now are missing. Spamd needs to be taken out of the loop, and then stopped. Then make sure mail still flows (with no errors in your log). I would try setting $SYSLOG_LEVEL = 'mail.info'; along with $log_level = 5; to see if you get the text we were looking for earlier. Send a (non spam) message through and see if you get the text. Don't forget to reload amavisd. And to set things back the way they were after the testing is complete. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/log# egrep local_domains maillog Jun 8 17:41:24 unpata amavis[13448]: (13448-01) lookup (local_domains) = true, [EMAIL PROTECTED] matches, result=1, matching_key=(constant:1) Jun 8 17:41:25 unpata amavis[13449]: (13449-01) lookup (local_domains) = true, [EMAIL PROTECTED] matches, result=1, matching_key=(constant:1) Jun 8 17:41:34 unpata amavis[13448]: (13448-02) lookup (local_domains) = true, [EMAIL PROTECTED] matches, result=1, matching_key=(constant:1) Jun 8 17:41:34 unpata amavis[13448]: (13448-02) lookup (local_domains) = true, [EMAIL PROTECTED] matches, result=1, matching_key=(constant:1) Jun 8 17:41:34 unpata amavis[13448]: (13448-02) lookup (local_domains) = true, [EMAIL PROTECTED] matches, result=1, matching_key=(constant:1) Jun 8 17:41:34 unpata amavis[13448]: (13448-02) lookup (local_domains) = true, [EMAIL PROTECTED] matches, result=1, matching_key=(constant:1) Jun 8 17:41:36 unpata amavis[13448]: (13448-03) lookup (local_domains) = true, [EMAIL PROTECTED] matches, result=1, matching_key=(constant:1) Jun 8 17:41:38 unpata amavis[13449]: (13449-02) lookup (local_domains) = true, [EMAIL PROTECTED] matches, result=1, matching_key=(constant:1) Jun 8 17:41:49 unpata amavis[13448]: (13448-04) lookup (local_domains) = true, [EMAIL PROTECTED] matches, result=1, matching_key=(constant:1) Jun 8 17:41:58 unpata amavis[13449]: (13449-03) lookup (local_domains) = true, [EMAIL PROTECTED] matches, result=1, matching_key=(constant:1) Jun 8 17:41:58 unpata amavis[13449]: (13449-03) lookup (local_domains) = true, [EMAIL PROTECTED] matches, result=1, matching_key=(constant:1) Jun 8 17:41:58 unpata amavis[13449]: (13449-03) lookup (local_domains) = true, [EMAIL PROTECTED] matches, result=1, matching_key=(constant:1) Jun 8 17:41:58 unpata amavis[13449]: (13449-03) lookup (local_domains) = true, [EMAIL PROTECTED] matches, result=1, matching_key=(constant:1) Jun 8 17:41:58 unpata amavis[13449]: (13449-03) lookup (local_domains) = true, [EMAIL PROTECTED] matches, result=1, matching_key=(constant:1) Jun 8 17:41:58 unpata amavis[13449]: (13449-03) lookup (local_domains) = true, [EMAIL PROTECTED] matches, result=1, matching_key=(constant:1) Jun 8 17:42:11 unpata amavis[13448]: (13448-05) lookup (local_domains) = true, [EMAIL PROTECTED] matches, result=1, matching_key=(constant:1) Jun 8 17:42:16 unpata amavis[13449]: (13449-04) lookup (local_domains) = true, [EMAIL PROTECTED] matches, result=1, matching_key=(constant:1) Jun 8 17:42:18 unpata amavis[13449]: (13449-05) lookup (local_domains) = true, [EMAIL PROTECTED] matches, result=1, matching_key=(constant:1) Jun 8 17:42:18 unpata amavis[13449]: (13449-05) lookup (local_domains) = true, [EMAIL PROTECTED] matches, result=1, matching_key=(constant:1) Jun 8 17:42:18 unpata amavis[13449]: (13449-05) lookup (local_domains) = true, [EMAIL PROTECTED] matches, result=1, matching_key=(constant:1) Jun 8 17:42:18 unpata amavis[13449]: (13449-05) lookup (local_domains) = true, [EMAIL PROTECTED] matches, result=1, matching_key=(constant:1) Jun 8 17:42:18 unpata amavis[13449]: (13449-05) lookup (local_domains) = true, [EMAIL PROTECTED] matches, result=1, matching_key=(constant:1) Jun 8 17:42:18 unpata amavis[13449]: (13449-05) lookup (local_domains) = true, [EMAIL PROTECTED] matches, result=1, matching_key=(constant:1) Jun 8 17:42:18 unpata amavis[13449]: (13449-05) lookup (local_domains) = true, [EMAIL PROTECTED] matches, result=1, matching_key=(constant:1) Jun 8 17:42:18 unpata amavis[13449]: (13449-05) lookup (local_domains) = true, [EMAIL PROTECTED] matches, result=1, matching_key=(constant:1) Jun 8 17:42:44 unpata amavis[13449]: (13449-06) lookup
Re: [AMaViS-user] Releasing from a quarantine
On 5/30/06, Bartłomiej Syryjczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to release mail from quarantine when the method is set to sql:?guzik Yes it is. Please read the following documentation pertaining to message release from quarantine: http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/README.protocol.txt If you wish to use a web interface to release message from quarantine, take a look at MailZu: http://www.MailZu.net Sam Poczta wysłana za pomocą programu ZaWiKo ___ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/ ___ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
Re: [AMaViS-user] Adding headers on email
Raul wrote: I tried to send the reply yesterday with the result of the search in the log file attached in a txt file but it was delayed until moderator approval. Sorry for the long message Jun 8 17:50:51 unpata amavis[13548]: (13548-09) lookup (local_domains) = true, doeunp(a)example.edu.ar matches, result=1, matching_key=(constant:1) Jun 8 17:51:04 unpata amavis[13551]: (13551-10) lookup (spam_tag_level) = undef, grs(a)example.edu.ar does not match OK, looks good. I just wanted to make sure that these two settings were as they should be. I was only expecting output from one or two test messages. As stated in the previous post, work on taking spamd or spamassassin out of the loop (if it is there) and killing spamd (and preventing it from starting up in the future). As I said, I believe the headers are removed after amavisd-new has processed them. If you do this: grep ') header:' /var/log/mail.log (or) egrep '\) header:' /var/log/mail.log you should see for each message that was in your report, log lines similar to this: (14495-01) header: Received: from sfm.example.com ([127.0.0.1])\n by localhost (sfm.example.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)\n with ESMTP id 14495-01 for [EMAIL PROTECTED];\n Fri, 9 Jun 2006 08:01:39 -0600 (MDT)\n (14495-01) header: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.3.3 (20050822) (Debian) at example.com\n (14495-01) header: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.095 required=8 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.44,\n MISSING_SUBJECT=1.345]\n (14495-01) header: X-Spam-Score: -0.095\n (14495-01) header: X-Spam-Level: \n If you don't, then I would say the headers are not written, but if you do, I would think they are. BTW, its usually (but not in every case) a good idea to obfuscate email addresses when posting to mailing lists, but mailing list archives do have measures in place to help prevent address harvesting. Gary V ___ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
Re: [AMaViS-user] Adding headers on email
Another way to help test that amavisd-new is writing something to the headers is to temporarily set $final_spam_destiny = D_PASS; and make sure you have enabled $sa_spam_subject_tag = '***SPAM*** '; and send yourself a spam message. You should get the message in your inbox with the subject line prefixed with ***SPAM***. If you send yourself the gtube string, you should do it from an account outside your network. One that you would typically not use to send mail to yourself. If you need the gtube string, I have provided it here: http://www200.pair.com/mecham/spam/gtube.txt The text on the Subject: line should not be removed by SpamAssassin. According to the SpamAssassin documentation, an X-Spam-Checker-Version header will be written by SpamAssassin. Are you seeing this header? I will admit I am pretty much stumped at this point. If SpamAssassin is called after processing by amavisd-new, depending on spamassassin settings, SpamAssassin would likely write its own set of headers. If you are not seeing any of those either, I'm not sure what is going on. Also, in a test I did, with spamc/spamd running after amavisd-new (mail was detected as spam and passed to the recipient), the original message was defanged (included as an attachment in a spamassassin report). If spamassassin was called after amavisd-new, I would think there would be more evidence of it than simply having the X-Spam headers removed. For this reason, I'm not sure what is happening at this point, and I'm not seeing what I may have missed. Sorry Gary V ___ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
[AMaViS-user] Upgrade to 2.4.1 Presented Problems
We have a problem that we are trying to resolve but are having no luck. Currently we are using Amavisd-new 2.4.1 which we recently upgraded to. Along with that we upgraded Postfix and ClamAV. Amavis was an in place upgrade from 2.3.1 and not a fresh install. Since upgrading, any virus that is detected by ClamAV and is being tagged but not dropped as it had been in 2.3.1. Here is the meat of the current config: *--start of amavisd.conf use strict; $MYHOME = /var/amavis; $QUARANTINEDIR = undef; $daemon_chroot_dir = undef; $db_home = $MYHOME/db; @local_domains_maps = ( [.$mydomain] ); @mynetworks = qw( 127.0.0.0/8 [::1] [FE80::]/10 [FEC0::]/10 10.0.0.0/8 172.16.0.0/12 192.168.0.0/16 ); $policy_bank{'AM.PDP-SOCK'} = { protocol='AM.PDP' }; @addr_extension_virus_maps = ('virus'); @addr_extension_spam_maps = ('spam'); @addr_extension_banned_maps = ('banned'); @addr_extension_bad_header_maps = ('badh'); $path = '/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/bin'; $dspam = undef; $MAXLEVELS = 14; $MAXFILES = 1500; $sa_spam_subject_tag = '[SPAM] '; %final_destiny_by_ccat = ( CC_VIRUS, D_DISCARD, CC_BANNED, D_DISCARD, CC_UNCHECKED, D_PASS, CC_SPAM, D_DISCARD, CC_BADH, D_PASS, CC_OVERSIZED, D_DISCARD, CC_CLEAN, D_PASS, CC_CATCHALL, D_PASS, ); @keep_decoded_original_maps = (new_RE( qr'^(ASCII(?! cpio)|text|uuencoded|xxencoded|binhex)'i, )); snip - left out additional bans, etc @decoders = ( ['mail', \do_mime_decode], ['asc', \do_ascii], ['uue', \do_ascii], ['hqx', \do_ascii], ['ync', \do_ascii], ['F',\do_uncompress, ['unfreeze','freeze -d','melt','fcat'] ], ['Z',\do_uncompress, ['uncompress','gzip -d','zcat'] ], ['gz', \do_gunzip], ['gz', \do_uncompress, 'gzip -d'], ['bz2', \do_uncompress, 'bzip2 -d'], ['lzo', \do_uncompress, 'lzop -d'], ['rpm', \do_uncompress, ['rpm2cpio.pl','rpm2cpio'] ], ['cpio', \do_pax_cpio, ['pax','gcpio','cpio'] ], ['tar', \do_pax_cpio, ['pax','gcpio','cpio'] ], ['tar', \do_tar], ['deb', \do_ar, 'ar'], ['zip', \do_unzip], ['rar', \do_unrar, ['rar','unrar'] ], ['arj', \do_unarj, ['arj','unarj'] ], ['arc', \do_arc,['nomarch','arc'] ], ['zoo', \do_zoo, 'zoo'], ['lha', \do_lha, 'lha'], ['cab', \do_cabextract, 'cabextract'], ['tnef', \do_tnef_ext,'tnef'], ['tnef', \do_tnef], ['exe', \do_executable, ['rar','unrar'], 'lha', ['arj','unarj'] ], ); @av_scanners = ( ['ClamAV-clamd', \ask_daemon, [CONTSCAN {}\n, /var/run/clamav/clamd], qr/\bOK$/, qr/\bFOUND$/, qr/^.*?: (?!Infected Archive)(.*) FOUND$/ ], ); @av_scanners_backup = ( ['ClamAV-clamscan', 'clamscan', --stdout --disable-summary -r --tempdir=$TEMPBASE {}, [0], qr/:.*\sFOUND$/, qr/^.*?: (?!Infected Archive)(.*) FOUND$/ ], ); ### *--- end of amavisd.conf Now, we run the same exact config on 2.3.1 (excluding the new methods for final destination actions ) and have no problem what so ever. What are we missing here? Any help would be greatly appreciated . . . .. -bill- ___ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
Re: [AMaViS-user] negative spam scores
Terry wrote: I have seen a few things about this in my searches but no concrete answers and fixes. I am sure it is a configuration error on my part but I don't see where. I am getting negative hit scores for spam messages. Please reply with information that I can post that would help resolve this issue. Information please!!! Post the spam headers you are seeing on the emails. We need to know which rules are causing the negative score before we can help you. If you have one of the messages in a file, you can run it through SA manually like this to see the headers: spamassassin -t spam.msg Make sure you run it as the same user Amavis runs as. -- Bowie ___ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
Re: [AMaViS-user] negative spam scores
Terry wrote: I have seen a few things about this in my searches but no concrete answers and fixes. I am sure it is a configuration error on my part but I don't see where. I am getting negative hit scores for spam messages. Please reply with information that I can post that would help resolve this issue. Probably the most common reason for incorrect negative scores is a misconfigured trusted_networks: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/TrustPath Or the AWL: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/AutoWhitelist ___ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
Re: [AMaViS-user] Ignore first upstream client
Per olof Ljungmark wrote: Hi all, I'm moving our content filtering from the frontend smtp-servers to an inside relay. After a test, I can see that while it seems to work ok, all spam is marked Spam from local ip-of frontend smtp. How can I tell amavisd to ignore our incoming servers and report the first external relay instead? All are running postfix 2.2 or 2.3 and amavisd-new-2.4.1. ext-smtp-smtp/amavis-mail server port 25 10024 25 Try adjusting your @mynetworks setting in amavisd-new. ___ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
Re: [AMaViS-user] what how ...
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pablo L. Arturi Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 5:51 PM To: amavis-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [AMaViS-user] what how ... Hello dear list. I have to deploy a spam and antivirus system for a large email system. My idea is to setup postfix+mysql+amavis-new+clamav+sa to work as a email filtering gateway. I have this numbers: Email accounts: 18000 Messajes received daily: 280.000 Is that 280.000 NON-SPAM? What is the number INCLUDING SPAM? (maybe 400.000? About 86% spam ratio?) You looking at doing this on one big box or multiple servers? What about load balancing? Failover? High availability? (ps, don't anyone go to www.bairesweb.com some unknown strange vbscript tries to pop something up. Firefox blocked it) I think it is terribly rude to put crap like that on a web site, but maybe that's just me and noone else cares. ___ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
Re: [AMaViS-user] what how ...
-Original Message- From: Pablo L. Arturi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 7:43 PM To: Michael Scheidell Subject: Re: [AMaViS-user] what how ... Is that 280.000 NON-SPAM? What is the number INCLUDING SPAM? (maybe 400.000? About 86% spam ratio?) I think that 280.000 includes everything, spam and good messages. The amount of accounts are 17.000 (16 messages per account, per day?). You looking at doing this on one big box or multiple servers? What about load balancing? Failover? High availability? Hi Michael. I was just thinking that would be better at least 2 machines, just in case one is down to have another MX box and avoid loosing mails. Usually three. One FE server (postfix, DNS, mysql, DCC flood server if you use DCC. Anything over 100,000 per day they want you to run your own flood server. Two load balancing servers with amavis/sa/clamav. Postfix transport to send to a dns name (let dns round robin the BE servers) Or, you could do it with one big raid enabled, multi-dual core xeon with redundant power supplies. (ps, don't anyone go to www.bairesweb.com some unknown strange vbscript tries to pop something up. Firefox blocked it) I think it is terribly rude to put crap like that on a web site, but maybe that's just me and noone else cares. Hmm :) no, it's not a popup, I hate them too. It's probably a javascript to load a mini-applet for my customer service chat. Thank you Pablo ___ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
Re: [AMaViS-user] what how ...
Usually three. One FE server (postfix, DNS, mysql, DCC flood server if you use DCC. Anything over 100,000 per day they want you to run your own flood server. Two load balancing servers with amavis/sa/clamav. Postfix transport to send to a dns name (let dns round robin the BE servers) Or, you could do it with one big raid enabled, multi-dual core xeon with redundant power supplies. What do you think of having this: mx1 --- mx2 | Mail Server mx1 and 2 will have amavis/clamd/SA/postfix and will forward all incoming mail to Mail Server and having both mx dns records with the same priority should function as a loadbalancing ... am I wrong ? any idea of what kind of hardware should I use for both server? Thanks again, Pablo ___ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
Re: [AMaViS-user] what how ...
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pablo L. Arturi Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 7:57 PM To: Michael Scheidell; amavis-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [AMaViS-user] what how ... mx1 --- mx2 | Mail Server I guess I forgot about the mail server. If you have a loadbalancing set with mysql on two systems, you have the replication issue. I would do: FE (main mx record to the world) postfix/DNS/DCC,mysql, 'special' dns entry for postfix/transport should round robbin SA1 and SA2 SA1 SA2 Mail Server (remember, SA with lots of rules takes the most time, clamav will also) mx1 and 2 will have amavis/clamd/SA/postfix and will forward all incoming mail to Mail Server and having both mx dns records with the same priority should function as a loadbalancing ... This is high end, should keep transit latencies down to 14 to 20 seconds per email. FE 3GHZ Dual core, mirroring, put /var/spool on separate spindles, redundant power supplies, MX weight 10 Pretend it's a normal postfix server, depending on distro, 2/4GB ram, (remember, its running your only copy of mysql, and will have your quarantined files via NFS or SQL) Keep an updated copy of your userlist on FE to block dictionary attacks. Use tarpit :-) Maybe use postfix mime-header rules to block certain attachments MS should never have allowed in email. (.bat, cmd, scr, pif). I would do a very heavy reliance on postfix to block as much as you can. SA1 and SA2 3GHZ dual core, I don't know if I would go for mirror and redundant ps, since you have two of them. Maybe 2/4GB reach. Mail server Don't know, what do you have now? What is latencies? The above should reduce the load by 90%. ___ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/