Re: [AMaViS-user] How to manage spam scores?

2007-07-28 Thread mouss
Justin Kim wrote:
 Gary wrote:

 
 Justin wrote:
   
 Hello Everyone,
 I am using amavis with postfix+mysql setup.
 Amavis is scanning messages and is reinjecting messages to 
 
 postfix through
 
 smtp.
 I would like to know how can I manage spam scores so that 
 
 certain domain
 
 like yahoo.com is not getting high score.
 My user requested that there are false positive when it is sent from
 specific yahoo.com account.
 Please help!
 Justin
 
 One way would be to use @score_sender_maps. If you don't have
 this in amavisd.conf then look for it in amavisd.conf-sample
 under the heading:
   
 # ENVELOPE SENDER SOFT-WHITELISTING / SOFT-BLACKLISTING
   
 Look at both the per-recipient and site-wide examples and place
 your entries in the appropriate position(s).
   
 Another possibly method is to determine exactly what particular rule
 is causing the false positive and then zero out the score of that
 rule in local.cf.

 score SOME_YAHOO_RULE 0

 What version of SA?

 Gary V

 
 Thanks Gary,
 My SA version is 3.1.8 on redhat.
 Amavisd-new version 2.4.5
 I couldn't find the yahoo score on /usr/share/spamassassin/50_scores.cf

 Spam scores are:

 X-Spam-Flag: YES
 X-Spam-Score: 6.116
 X-Spam-Level: **
 X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=6.116 tagged_above=-999 required=5
  tests=[BIZ_TLD=1.169, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.479,
  DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.44, DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879, HTML_10_20=0.945,
  HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,
  MSGID_FROM_MTA_ID=0.927]

 I do not know if I am on the right track to 0 out yahoo scores.
   

MSGID_FROM_MTA_ID is intriguing. are you sure the mail came from yahoo?

consider enabling Bayes and training on errors.

You can lower the scores of DNS_FROM_RFC_* just enough so that the score 
gets below 5. Or you can write meta rules to cancel these if the sending 
domain is yahoo and the like (maybe too much work though).

if you get enough legitimate mail related to .biz domains, you may 
consider lowering the score of BIZ_TLD.



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[AMaViS-user] How to manage spam scores?

2007-07-27 Thread Justin Kim
Hello Everyone,
I am using amavis with postfix+mysql setup.
Amavis is scanning messages and is reinjecting messages to postfix through
smtp.
I would like to know how can I manage spam scores so that certain domain
like yahoo.com is not getting high score.
My user requested that there are false positive when it is sent from
specific yahoo.com account.
Please help!
Justin
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Re: [AMaViS-user] How to manage spam scores?

2007-07-27 Thread Gary V
Gary wrote:

 Justin wrote:

 Hello Everyone,
 I am using amavis with postfix+mysql setup.
 Amavis is scanning messages and is reinjecting messages to postfix through
 smtp.
 I would like to know how can I manage spam scores so that certain domain
 like yahoo.com is not getting high score.
 My user requested that there are false positive when it is sent from
 specific yahoo.com account.
 Please help!
 Justin

 One way would be to use @score_sender_maps. If you don't have
 this in amavisd.conf then look for it in amavisd.conf-sample
 under the heading:

 # ENVELOPE SENDER SOFT-WHITELISTING / SOFT-BLACKLISTING

 Look at both the per-recipient and site-wide examples and place
 your entries in the appropriate position(s).

Another possibly method is to determine exactly what particular rule
is causing the false positive and then zero out the score of that
rule in local.cf.

score SOME_YAHOO_RULE 0

What version of SA?

Gary V



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Re: [AMaViS-user] How to manage spam scores?

2007-07-27 Thread Gary V
Justin wrote:

 Hello Everyone,
 I am using amavis with postfix+mysql setup.
 Amavis is scanning messages and is reinjecting messages to postfix through
 smtp.
 I would like to know how can I manage spam scores so that certain domain
 like yahoo.com is not getting high score.
 My user requested that there are false positive when it is sent from
 specific yahoo.com account.
 Please help!
 Justin

One way would be to use @score_sender_maps. If you don't have
this in amavisd.conf then look for it in amavisd.conf-sample
under the heading:

# ENVELOPE SENDER SOFT-WHITELISTING / SOFT-BLACKLISTING

Look at both the per-recipient and site-wide examples and place
your entries in the appropriate position(s).

Gary V



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Re: [AMaViS-user] How to manage spam scores?

2007-07-27 Thread Justin Kim
 Gary wrote:
 
  Justin wrote:
 
  Hello Everyone,
  I am using amavis with postfix+mysql setup.
  Amavis is scanning messages and is reinjecting messages to 
 postfix through
  smtp.
  I would like to know how can I manage spam scores so that 
 certain domain
  like yahoo.com is not getting high score.
  My user requested that there are false positive when it is sent from
  specific yahoo.com account.
  Please help!
  Justin
 
  One way would be to use @score_sender_maps. If you don't have
  this in amavisd.conf then look for it in amavisd.conf-sample
  under the heading:
 
  # ENVELOPE SENDER SOFT-WHITELISTING / SOFT-BLACKLISTING
 
  Look at both the per-recipient and site-wide examples and place
  your entries in the appropriate position(s).
 
 Another possibly method is to determine exactly what particular rule
 is causing the false positive and then zero out the score of that
 rule in local.cf.
 
 score SOME_YAHOO_RULE 0
 
 What version of SA?
 
 Gary V
 
Thanks Gary,
My SA version is 3.1.8 on redhat.
Amavisd-new version 2.4.5
I couldn't find the yahoo score on /usr/share/spamassassin/50_scores.cf

Spam scores are:

X-Spam-Flag: YES
X-Spam-Score: 6.116
X-Spam-Level: **
X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=6.116 tagged_above=-999 required=5
 tests=[BIZ_TLD=1.169, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.479,
 DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.44, DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879, HTML_10_20=0.945,
 HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,
 MSGID_FROM_MTA_ID=0.927]

I do not know if I am on the right track to 0 out yahoo scores.

Thanks again.

Justin 


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Re: [AMaViS-user] How to manage spam scores?

2007-07-27 Thread Gary V
Justin wrote:

 Thanks Gary,
 My SA version is 3.1.8 on redhat.
 Amavisd-new version 2.4.5
 I couldn't find the yahoo score on /usr/share/spamassassin/50_scores.cf

 Spam scores are:

 X-Spam-Flag: YES
 X-Spam-Score: 6.116
 X-Spam-Level: **
 X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=6.116 tagged_above=-999 required=5
  tests=[BIZ_TLD=1.169, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.479,
  DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.44, DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879, HTML_10_20=0.945,
  HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,
  MSGID_FROM_MTA_ID=0.927]

 I do not know if I am on the right track to 0 out yahoo scores.

 Thanks again.
 Justin

Hmm. It looks like 3.2.0 removed these three DNS_FROM_RFC_* rules.

If I recall, Yahoo will trigger these. You might consider:

score DNS_FROM_RFC_POST 0

It's the the fact that the message had a dot biz URL in it that sent
this one over the top - but still, if this really is from Yahoo then
it would score pretty high regardless - seems not fair. Senders
can help by not using HTML.

I would also look in maillog and determine who the envelope sender was and
put the sender in @score_sender_maps with a negative score (like -3).

Gary V



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