Re: [AMaViS-user] Turn off the annoying razor log?
Matt wrote: >> You decide, it can make a big difference in the speed that the Bayes >> database is written to or read from: >> http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.0.x/dist/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Conf.html#miscellaneous_options > Is the Bayesian database on by default? If so, doesn't it require > training? Yes, it is on by default. The default is to auto_learn. I find auto_learn works fine for me, I personally don't bother to train. Devising some method for your users feed false positives to 'sa-learn --ham' would be good. And false negatives to 'sa-learn --spam' would provide additional training. How you would accomplish that would take some thought. I think you would have to find a way to get the original mail that you wanted learned over to the gateway servers also. The mail cannot be forwarded, it must be exactly as it was when it was received. All in all, not necessarily a trivial task. Gary V --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
Re: [AMaViS-user] Turn off the annoying razor log?
You decide, it can make a big difference in the speed that the Bayes database is written to or read from: http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.0.x/dist/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Conf.html#miscellaneous_options Is the Bayesian database on by default? If so, doesn't it require training? --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
Re: [AMaViS-user] Turn off the annoying razor log?
> >> BTW, do you have 'lock_method flock' enabled? > > > > In postfix and dovecot I do, but not in the spamassassin config file ... > > should I? :) > > > > -Matt > > You decide, it can make a big difference in the speed that the Bayes > database is written to or read from: > http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.0.x/dist/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Conf.h >tml#miscellaneous_options Or better yet, move Bayes to SQL and the lock_method only still controls the AWL. Use flock by all means. Mark --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
Re: [AMaViS-user] Turn off the annoying razor log?
Matt wrote: >> BTW, do you have 'lock_method flock' enabled? > In postfix and dovecot I do, but not in the spamassassin config file ... > should I? :) > -Matt You decide, it can make a big difference in the speed that the Bayes database is written to or read from: http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.0.x/dist/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Conf.html#miscellaneous_options Gary V --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
Re: [AMaViS-user] Turn off the annoying razor log?
BTW, do you have 'lock_method flock' enabled? In postfix and dovecot I do, but not in the spamassassin config file ... should I? :) -Matt --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
Re: [AMaViS-user] Turn off the annoying razor log?
Matt, > > The only bad part is stopping and starting amavisd-new on a busy > > server. So maybe you could set it up, then save the stop and start for > > when you have other changes to make. > > We have two relays though :) Take one down and the other one is used. > > So I kill postfix first, and then work with amavis, then bring amavis back > up, and then postfix. Don't stop postfix. And don't bother coordinating restart on two servers, just restart amavisd if/when needed and it will do. The messages that were being processes will be retried by Postfix in few minutes - but if you are impatient and amavisd was down for more than a few seconds, you may rush a MTA retry by: postfix flush Mark --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
Re: [AMaViS-user] Turn off the annoying razor log?
The only bad part is stopping and starting amavisd-new on a busy server. So maybe you could set it up, then save the stop and start for when you have other changes to make. We have two relays though :) Take one down and the other one is used. So I kill postfix first, and then work with amavis, then bring amavis back up, and then postfix. -Matt --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
Re: [AMaViS-user] Turn off the annoying razor log?
Gary wrote: > But really, configuring razor as I mentioned is quite simple. The only bad part is stopping and starting amavisd-new on a busy server. So maybe you could set it up, then save the stop and start for when you have other changes to make. Gary V --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
Re: [AMaViS-user] Turn off the annoying razor log?
Matt wrote: >> Then I'm not sure where razor is set up for you. If your amavis user >> is named 'vscan': >> >> su vscan -c 'razor-admin -create' >> >> should create /var/amavis/.razor >> >> with these files in it: >> -rw-r--r-- 1 vscan vscan 698 Aug 10 10:45 razor-agent.conf >> -rw-r--r-- 1 vscan vscan 484 Aug 10 10:45 server.folly.cloudmark.com.conf >> -rw-r--r-- 1 vscan vscan 20 Aug 10 10:45 servers.catalogue.lst >> -rw-r--r-- 1 vscan vscan 22 Aug 10 10:45 servers.discovery.lst >> -rw-r--r-- 1 vscan vscan 38 Aug 10 10:45 servers.nomination.lst >> >> then run: >> >> su vscan -c 'razor-admin -register' >> (may need to run twice) >> >> then: >> vi /var/amavis/.razor/razor-agent.conf >> and change debuglevel to 0 >> >> Optional, but recommended: >> vi /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf >> (or wherever local.cf is located) >> and insert: >> razor_config /var/amavis/.razor/razor-agent.conf > In my rc.local script that creates the RAM drive, can't I just do: > ln -s /dev/null /var/amavis/tmp/razor-agent.log > temporarily until such time as I get around to play with razor? I dont > really want to create new config files and mess with config files until > next week when I have more time (our current setup is fairly stable). > -matt Not absolutely sure, but I would have to say that just seems like a bad idea. So you are already using a RAM drive for /var/amavis/tmp ? As a test, I removed my /var/amavis/.razor directory, then upon running 'amavisd debug-sa' I get: Razor-Log: Computed user confpath from env: /var/amavis/.razor Razor-Log: No /var/amavis/.razor/razor-agent.conf found, skipping. Razor-Log: No razor-agent.conf found, using defaults. Razor-Log: Computed razorhome from env: /var/amavis/.razor Razor-Log: No razorhome found, using all defaults So, until you create this stuff, defaults (debuglevel = 3) will be used. If you are currently deleting the file manually, I would be tempted to simply automate this task in crontab: 7 * * * * /bin/rm /var/amavis/tmp/razor-agent.log But really, configuring razor as I mentioned is quite simple. Gary V --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
Re: [AMaViS-user] Turn off the annoying razor log?
Then I'm not sure where razor is set up for you. If your amavis user is named 'vscan': su vscan -c 'razor-admin -create' should create /var/amavis/.razor with these files in it: -rw-r--r-- 1 vscan vscan 698 Aug 10 10:45 razor-agent.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 vscan vscan 484 Aug 10 10:45 server.folly.cloudmark.com.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 vscan vscan 20 Aug 10 10:45 servers.catalogue.lst -rw-r--r-- 1 vscan vscan 22 Aug 10 10:45 servers.discovery.lst -rw-r--r-- 1 vscan vscan 38 Aug 10 10:45 servers.nomination.lst then run: su vscan -c 'razor-admin -register' (may need to run twice) then: vi /var/amavis/.razor/razor-agent.conf and change debuglevel to 0 Optional, but recommended: vi /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf (or wherever local.cf is located) and insert: razor_config /var/amavis/.razor/razor-agent.conf In my rc.local script that creates the RAM drive, can't I just do: ln -s /dev/null /var/amavis/tmp/razor-agent.log temporarily until such time as I get around to play with razor? I dont really want to create new config files and mess with config files until next week when I have more time (our current setup is fairly stable). -matt --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
Re: [AMaViS-user] Turn off the annoying razor log?
mess-mate wrote: > Gary V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | Matt wrote: > | | >> Hi all, | >> Is there a way to turn off the annoying razor log in /var/amavis/tmp ? | >> Thanks, | >> Matt > | > | Try this > | > | set: > | debuglevel = 0 > | in: > | vi /path/to/amavis/.razor/razor-agent.conf > | > | Gary V > | > Strange... I've a razor-agent.log in my $HOME/.razor AND in > /var/lib/amavis/tmp !! same time updated. > Is there a way to set it to a path in razor-agent.conf ? So amavisd-new must be using $HOME/.razor/razor-agent.conf You could edit that one, or better yet: You can give amavisd-new (actually, the amavisd-new user) its own copy of razor: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=amavis-user&m=112370391004267&w=2 I would set debuglevel = 0 in both of them. > mess-mate > -- > Blow it out your ear. My ear is already blown out from the last time. Gary V --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
Re: [AMaViS-user] Turn off the annoying razor log?
Gary V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Matt wrote: | | > Hi all, | > Is there a way to turn off the annoying razor log in /var/amavis/tmp ? | > Thanks, | > Matt | | Try this | | set: | debuglevel = 0 | in: | vi /path/to/amavis/.razor/razor-agent.conf | | Gary V | Strange... I've a razor-agent.log in my $HOME/.razor AND in /var/lib/amavis/tmp !! same time updated. Is there a way to set it to a path in razor-agent.conf ? mess-mate -- Blow it out your ear. --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
Re: [AMaViS-user] Turn off the annoying razor log?
Matt wrote: >> Try this >> >> set: >> debuglevel = 0 >> in: >> vi /path/to/amavis/.razor/razor-agent.conf >> > Which path to amavis? My config is in /usr/local/etc/amavisd.conf and my > amavis dir is /var/amavis but there's no .razor there. I need to create > it? ls -al /var/amavis does not show a .razor directory? Then I'm not sure where razor is set up for you. If your amavis user is named 'vscan': su vscan -c 'razor-admin -create' should create /var/amavis/.razor with these files in it: -rw-r--r-- 1 vscan vscan 698 Aug 10 10:45 razor-agent.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 vscan vscan 484 Aug 10 10:45 server.folly.cloudmark.com.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 vscan vscan 20 Aug 10 10:45 servers.catalogue.lst -rw-r--r-- 1 vscan vscan 22 Aug 10 10:45 servers.discovery.lst -rw-r--r-- 1 vscan vscan 38 Aug 10 10:45 servers.nomination.lst then run: su vscan -c 'razor-admin -register' (may need to run twice) then: vi /var/amavis/.razor/razor-agent.conf and change debuglevel to 0 Optional, but recommended: vi /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf (or wherever local.cf is located) and insert: razor_config /var/amavis/.razor/razor-agent.conf BTW, do you have 'lock_method flock' enabled? amavisd reload (for the change to take effect) Gary V --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
Re: [AMaViS-user] Turn off the annoying razor log?
Try this set: debuglevel = 0 in: vi /path/to/amavis/.razor/razor-agent.conf Which path to amavis? My config is in /usr/local/etc/amavisd.conf and my amavis dir is /var/amavis but there's no .razor there. I need to create it? --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
Re: [AMaViS-user] Turn off the annoying razor log?
Matt wrote: > Hi all, > Is there a way to turn off the annoying razor log in /var/amavis/tmp ? > Thanks, > Matt Try this set: debuglevel = 0 in: vi /path/to/amavis/.razor/razor-agent.conf Gary V --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
