Re: [AMRadio] Old Novice Days

2005-02-23 Thread Joe Crawford
In 1972 the 40m Novice band was 7150-7200. I know because I was there. Refer 
to 1970 ARRL Handbook page 14 at the left bottom of the page. Seems like the 
change was made in late 1972 or a little later.
 Joe W4AAB (ex-WN4AUX 1972-73) 

Geoff writes: 

Gary Schafer wrote: 

 

Geoff wrote: 

Bill Connelly wrote: 


Thank you!
Bill, W3MJ 



At 12:09 PM 2/23/2005 -0600, you wrote: 

Bob Macklin wrote: 

<>In 1969 the 40M Novice segment was 7150 - 7200. In 1986 it was 7100 
- 7150. 


Bob Macklin
K5MYJ/7
Seattle, Wa.
 

 



Before that.  I got my ticket in Feb of 1984, and it was 7100 to 
7200kcs 



Hold off on the thanks...  after I read and re-read that, something 
didn't look correct... 

Let me try again, with these statements that I know (to the best of -my- 
current education)
to be fact... 

I do not ever, at anytime, remember the Novice CW sub-band of 40m , 
being more than 50kc wide. 

I've always known the Novice CW sub-band of 40m to be from 7100 to 
7150kc. 


There.  That's what Ive been -meaning- to say and/or stick with.
I, personally, don't ever remember the Novice band on 40m being as high 
as 7200kc 

 


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73 = Best Regards,
-Geoff/W5OMR 



Geoff, 

I think you are right about it being only 50kc wide. I don't know when 
they changed but in the early 60's it was from 7150 to 7200. My one and 
only crystal then was 7175 kc. You young kids probably don't remember 
that. :>)
 

Of course, there are some rigs and receivers (I'm thinking Heathkit) that 
had on a glass drum the 'fone segments in a heavy(ier) black  line, and 
7.2 to 7.3Mc were bold'ed.  It couldn't have been long (relativly 
speaking) from when Phone operation was permitted on 40m.  The only "Class 
A" bands were 80, 20 and 10m then. 11m was there (don't remember a lot 
about it, other than it was a ham band at one time, and probably the best 
DX band hams had) and this was before 15m. 

Interesting discussion.  I wonder if anyone has a time-line on when the 
major changes in Ham Radio took place, in regards to rules/operating 
privledges took place? 

40m was a CW only band after WWII until the 50's.  75w DC Input was the 
Novice power limit.  1kW DC Input (which is MUCH easier to measure than 
PEP but that's another whole thread in/of itself ;->) for Generals and 
above, regardless of mode. 

I've visited a few SSB'er hamshacks lately and some (not all) are running 
amps that are (according to the supposed 'peak-reading' wattmeters) 
running 2kW PLUS in output power.  (Not that it *bothers* me, just an 
observation). 

I wonder if this is something that's being done all over, or just a 
'specific group' of guys who are running the illegal limit? 

C'mon, man... a pair of 3CX800A7's?  That's 1600w of dissapation, 
fer-cryin'out-loud!  The right voltage on the plates would make 'em sing 
to -at least- 2kW pep output.  And some of these dual 4-1000 homebrew amps 
I hear on the air?  Isn't it the Alpha 8877 amp that runs 2 (not one, but 
*TWO*) 8877's in the output, EACH with a plate dissapation rating of 
1,500w? 

*shrug* 

It's nice to remember the old days.  And, yes. the times, they are 
a'changing.   It's just that I just don't necessarily think some of us 
hams are changing in a good/positive way.  

The Law is Always The Law.  It doesn't bend because you run a different 
mode. The LEGAL output limit is 1500w PEP. 


73 = Best Regards,
-Geoff/W5OMR 


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Re: [AMRadio] Want some real fun??

2005-02-23 Thread Joe Crawford
A friend of mine who was active during the "gooneybox" era on 6 and 2m said 
that if you had a real strong signal into someone's receiver, it would cause 
the tuning eye tube to go dark. The predecessor of "S meters". If you were 
real strong, the receiving station would say," You're closing the eye over 
here". Kind of like S9 plus a bunch.
   Joe W4AAB 

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I really enjoy the old Daze stories,we all got one..For a real hoot with your 
old reciever,build up a green "Magic Eye" tube circuit for the AVC line and 
watch it "Wink" open and close as you tune the signals.. It really Glows Green  
in the dark..Have fun Ron W6MAU

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Re: [AMRadio] Old Novice Days

2005-02-23 Thread Geoff

Robert M. Bratcher Jr. wrote:

C'mon, man... a pair of 3CX800A7's?  That's 1600w of dissapation, 
fer-cryin'out-loud!  The right voltage on the plates would make 'em 
sing to -at least- 2kW pep output.  And some of these dual 4-1000 
homebrew amps I hear on the air?  Isn't it the Alpha 8877 amp that 
runs 2 (not one, but *TWO*) 8877's in the output, EACH with a plate 
dissapation rating of 1,500w?


*shrug*

It's nice to remember the old days.  And, yes. the times, they are 
a'changing.   It's just that I just don't necessarily think some of 
us hams are changing in a good/positive way.
The Law is Always The Law.  It doesn't bend because you run a 
different mode. The LEGAL output limit is 1500w PEP.



Anybody know where I could find a schematic for these amplifiers?
Whats the best way to build a 1kw (capable) modulation transformer to 
plate modulate an amp like these? Not that I'd want to. Just asking...



Why couldn't you run a 500w modulation transformer, insulated off of 
ground, DC shunted off of the secondary a-la "reactor", and capacitivly 
couple the audio to the DC line to the amp?I've been looking for 
years, for a single 40Hy choke, at 500mA and have yet to locate one.  I 
have strung several chokes in series, and obtained the same results.  
Just not at the 1500w level

;-)



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73 = Best Regards,
-Geoff/W5OMR



Re: [AMRadio] Old Novice Days

2005-02-23 Thread Robert M. Bratcher Jr.

At 03:33 PM 2/23/2005, Geoff wrote:

Gary Schafer wrote:

I've visited a few SSB'er hamshacks lately and some (not all) are running 
amps that are (according to the supposed 'peak-reading' wattmeters) 
running 2kW PLUS in output power.  (Not that it *bothers* me, just an 
observation).


I wonder if this is something that's being done all over, or just a 
'specific group' of guys who are running the illegal limit?


C'mon, man... a pair of 3CX800A7's?  That's 1600w of dissapation, 
fer-cryin'out-loud!  The right voltage on the plates would make 'em sing 
to -at least- 2kW pep output.  And some of these dual 4-1000 homebrew amps 
I hear on the air?  Isn't it the Alpha 8877 amp that runs 2 (not one, but 
*TWO*) 8877's in the output, EACH with a plate dissapation rating of 1,500w?


*shrug*

It's nice to remember the old days.  And, yes. the times, they are 
a'changing.   It's just that I just don't necessarily think some of us 
hams are changing in a good/positive way.
The Law is Always The Law.  It doesn't bend because you run a different 
mode. The LEGAL output limit is 1500w PEP.


73 = Best Regards,
-Geoff/W5OMR


Anybody know where I could find a schematic for these amplifiers?
Whats the best way to build a 1kw (capable) modulation transformer to plate 
modulate an amp like these? Not that I'd want to. Just asking... 



Re: [AMRadio] Old Novice Days

2005-02-23 Thread Geoff

Donald Chester wrote:




I've visited a few SSB'er hamshacks lately and some (not all) are 
running amps that are (according to the supposed 'peak-reading' 
wattmeters) running 2kW PLUS in output power.



When the FCC changed the power limit,  they eliminated the requirement 
that used to be in the amateur rules to have on hand accurate 
instruments for measuring power, saying modern-day amateurs could use 
means other than "accurate measurement" to determine whether or not 
they were in compliance.


Has anyone ever figured out what they were talking about, other than 
that this was "spin" to fend off arguments that p.e.p. output power is 
too difficult for the average amateur to be capable of measuring with 
any kind of certainty?



I personally feel, Don, that it was an attempt by the "Awful Racket 
Raising League" to get hams to use "other devices" that are what a car 
dealer would call a "purchasable option", when buying that new peice of 
japanese-air, transistorized radio.  That option would be an SWR meter, 
with built in wattmeter that, oh by the way, happened to have a 
capacitor across the meter circuit to delay the fall time of the meter.


Just as the Novice Enhancement act put more hams on the air, it also 
sold more YeaComWoods to the entry level ham radio operators.  After the 
"Big Three" got greedy and saw that the novice market got flooded pretty 
quickly, they lobbied, and legislated CW requirements to be "almost" 
non-existant, so they could





(*. drum roll please..*) 






S E L L  
   M O R E 
 R A D I O S   ! ! !


Get this, y'all...  I simply couldn't believe it. 

I got into a discussion a while back on SSB (yes, it happens) talking 
about antennas, amplifiers and building in general.
Sure enough, at "ID" time, everyone chimed in, and one individual gave 
his call, is a rather disgusted, put-out, irritated voice.
I spoke up (I'm not shy!) and said "What's the matter, this stuff boring 
you?"  HE said "Hell yeah!  I don't come turn my radio on to just sit 
and listen to all this electronic building crap!  I wanna talk about 
what's important to ME!"


3.922 - "N5KDZ" (aka "Cedar Creek Bill")

THERE's a 'ham' for ya...

See what dropping requirements has done for us?

---
73 = Best Regards,
-Geoff/W5OMR




Re: [AMRadio] ART 13 Transmitter

2005-02-23 Thread Mark Foltarz
Ron,

I have been using an ART13 with the Drake AC power supply for the intended
purpose.

Give a shout here at 813-837-2324 or 440-570-1762.

Or a QSO on 20m SSB

de KA4JVY

Mark


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> commerical or amateur power supplies with one of these beauties to save in
> home brewing one.
> 
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> 
> 
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Re: [AMRadio] Old Novice Days

2005-02-23 Thread Donald Chester



I've visited a few SSB'er hamshacks lately and some (not all) are running 
amps that are (according to the supposed 'peak-reading' wattmeters) running 
2kW PLUS in output power.


When the FCC changed the power limit,  they eliminated the requirement that 
used to be in the amateur rules to have on hand accurate instruments for 
measuring power, saying modern-day amateurs could use means other than 
"accurate measurement" to determine whether or not they were in compliance.


Has anyone ever figured out what they were talking about, other than that 
this was "spin" to fend off arguments that p.e.p. output power is too 
difficult for the average amateur to be capable of measuring with any kind 
of certainty?


Don K4KYV




Re: [AMRadio] Want some real fun??

2005-02-23 Thread SBJohnston

I've seen (and have one from Midland)  field strength meters that include a 
headphone jack for monitoring of AM signals (and for hum/noise on CW carrier).  
They are only a short whip, germanium diode, and a bypass cap across meter 
and phones.  A pot is used to adjust the sensitivity, or just pull or push the 
whip in/out.  Works great...

Steve WD8DAS

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Re: [AMRadio] Want some real fun??

2005-02-23 Thread Geoff

George KB2Z wrote:

I saw plans for a magic eye tuning indicator on Phils old radio site. 
It was listed as being for a Halli. S-19R or S-20R but is adaptable to 
other rigs. 73 George KB2Z


At 06:02 PM 2/23/05 -0500, you wrote:

I really enjoy the old Daze stories,we all got one..For a real hoot 
with your
old reciever,build up a green "Magic Eye" tube circuit for the AVC 
line and
watch it "Wink" open and close as you tune the signals.. It really 
Glows Green

in the dark..Have fun Ron W6MAU




A Lot of guys are interested in hearing how their rigs sound on-air, but 
due to strong signals
in the receiver, receiver being muted, etc... it's difficult to get a 
-real good- idea of how it
"sounds". 

What would it take to build a 'crystal set' to tune 75m?  Simple diode 
detection, possibly
some sort of attenuation to keep the input signal down, and a set of 
cheap headphones...


Fun Projects that have a purpose!


---
73 = Best Regards,
-Geoff/W5OMR



Re: [AMRadio] Want some real fun??

2005-02-23 Thread George KB2Z
I saw plans for a magic eye tuning indicator on Phils old radio site. It 
was listed as being for a Halli. S-19R or S-20R but is adaptable to other 
rigs. 73 George KB2Z


At 06:02 PM 2/23/05 -0500, you wrote:


I really enjoy the old Daze stories,we all got one..For a real hoot with your
old reciever,build up a green "Magic Eye" tube circuit for the AVC line and
watch it "Wink" open and close as you tune the signals.. It really Glows 
Green

in the dark..Have fun Ron W6MAU
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[AMRadio] Want some real fun??

2005-02-23 Thread Rivpapa1
I really enjoy the old Daze stories,we all got one..For a real hoot with your 
old reciever,build up a green "Magic Eye" tube circuit for the AVC line and 
watch it "Wink" open and close as you tune the signals.. It really Glows Green  
in the dark..Have fun Ron W6MAU


Re: [AMRadio] Old Novice Days

2005-02-23 Thread Bob Macklin
Both my DX-60 and SB-401 have output below the current limit so I am not
worried.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ/7
Seattle, Wa.

"REAL RADIOS GLOW IN THE DARK"

- Original Message - 
From: "Geoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Discussion of AM Radio"

Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Old Novice Days


> Gary Schafer wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Geoff wrote:
> >
> >> Bill Connelly wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thank you!
> >>> Bill, W3MJ
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> At 12:09 PM 2/23/2005 -0600, you wrote:
> >>>
>  Bob Macklin wrote:
> 
> > <>In 1969 the 40M Novice segment was 7150 - 7200. In 1986 it was
> > 7100 - 7150.
> >
> > Bob Macklin
> > K5MYJ/7
> > Seattle, Wa.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  Before that.  I got my ticket in Feb of 1984, and it was 7100 to
>  7200kcs
> 
> >>
> >> Hold off on the thanks...  after I read and re-read that, something
> >> didn't look correct...
> >>
> >> Let me try again, with these statements that I know (to the best of
> >> -my- current education)
> >> to be fact...
> >>
> >> I do not ever, at anytime, remember the Novice CW sub-band of 40m ,
> >> being more than 50kc wide.
> >>
> >> I've always known the Novice CW sub-band of 40m to be from 7100 to
> >> 7150kc.
> >>
> >> There.  That's what Ive been -meaning- to say and/or stick with.
> >> I, personally, don't ever remember the Novice band on 40m being as
> >> high as 7200kc
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> 73 = Best Regards,
> >> -Geoff/W5OMR
> >>
> >
> > Geoff,
> >
> > I think you are right about it being only 50kc wide. I don't know when
> > they changed but in the early 60's it was from 7150 to 7200. My one
> > and only crystal then was 7175 kc. You young kids probably don't
> > remember that. :>)
>
>
> Of course, there are some rigs and receivers (I'm thinking Heathkit)
> that had on a glass drum the 'fone segments in a heavy(ier) black  line,
> and 7.2 to 7.3Mc were bold'ed.  It couldn't have been long (relativly
> speaking) from when Phone operation was permitted on 40m.  The only
> "Class A" bands were 80, 20 and 10m then. 11m was there (don't remember
> a lot about it, other than it was a ham band at one time, and probably
> the best DX band hams had) and this was before 15m.
>
> Interesting discussion.  I wonder if anyone has a time-line on when the
> major changes in Ham Radio took place, in regards to rules/operating
> privledges took place?
>
> 40m was a CW only band after WWII until the 50's.  75w DC Input was the
> Novice power limit.  1kW DC Input (which is MUCH easier to measure than
> PEP but that's another whole thread in/of itself ;->) for Generals and
> above, regardless of mode.
>
> I've visited a few SSB'er hamshacks lately and some (not all) are
> running amps that are (according to the supposed 'peak-reading'
> wattmeters) running 2kW PLUS in output power.  (Not that it *bothers*
> me, just an observation).
>
> I wonder if this is something that's being done all over, or just a
> 'specific group' of guys who are running the illegal limit?
>
> C'mon, man... a pair of 3CX800A7's?  That's 1600w of dissapation,
> fer-cryin'out-loud!  The right voltage on the plates would make 'em sing
> to -at least- 2kW pep output.  And some of these dual 4-1000 homebrew
> amps I hear on the air?  Isn't it the Alpha 8877 amp that runs 2 (not
> one, but *TWO*) 8877's in the output, EACH with a plate dissapation
> rating of 1,500w?
>
> *shrug*
>
> It's nice to remember the old days.  And, yes. the times, they are
> a'changing.   It's just that I just don't necessarily think some of us
> hams are changing in a good/positive way.
>
> The Law is Always The Law.  It doesn't bend because you run a different
> mode.
> The LEGAL output limit is 1500w PEP.
>
> 73 = Best Regards,
> -Geoff/W5OMR
>
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Re: [AMRadio] Old Novice Days

2005-02-23 Thread Geoff

Gary Schafer wrote:




Geoff wrote:


Bill Connelly wrote:


Thank you!
Bill, W3MJ


At 12:09 PM 2/23/2005 -0600, you wrote:


Bob Macklin wrote:

<>In 1969 the 40M Novice segment was 7150 - 7200. In 1986 it was 
7100 - 7150.


Bob Macklin
K5MYJ/7
Seattle, Wa.






Before that.  I got my ticket in Feb of 1984, and it was 7100 to 
7200kcs




Hold off on the thanks...  after I read and re-read that, something 
didn't look correct...


Let me try again, with these statements that I know (to the best of 
-my- current education)

to be fact...

I do not ever, at anytime, remember the Novice CW sub-band of 40m , 
being more than 50kc wide.


I've always known the Novice CW sub-band of 40m to be from 7100 to 
7150kc.


There.  That's what Ive been -meaning- to say and/or stick with.
I, personally, don't ever remember the Novice band on 40m being as 
high as 7200kc




--
73 = Best Regards,
-Geoff/W5OMR



Geoff,

I think you are right about it being only 50kc wide. I don't know when 
they changed but in the early 60's it was from 7150 to 7200. My one 
and only crystal then was 7175 kc. You young kids probably don't 
remember that. :>)   



Of course, there are some rigs and receivers (I'm thinking Heathkit) 
that had on a glass drum the 'fone segments in a heavy(ier) black  line, 
and 7.2 to 7.3Mc were bold'ed.  It couldn't have been long (relativly 
speaking) from when Phone operation was permitted on 40m.  The only 
"Class A" bands were 80, 20 and 10m then. 11m was there (don't remember 
a lot about it, other than it was a ham band at one time, and probably 
the best DX band hams had) and this was before 15m.


Interesting discussion.  I wonder if anyone has a time-line on when the 
major changes in Ham Radio took place, in regards to rules/operating 
privledges took place?


40m was a CW only band after WWII until the 50's.  75w DC Input was the 
Novice power limit.  1kW DC Input (which is MUCH easier to measure than 
PEP but that's another whole thread in/of itself ;->) for Generals and 
above, regardless of mode.


I've visited a few SSB'er hamshacks lately and some (not all) are 
running amps that are (according to the supposed 'peak-reading' 
wattmeters) running 2kW PLUS in output power.  (Not that it *bothers* 
me, just an observation).


I wonder if this is something that's being done all over, or just a 
'specific group' of guys who are running the illegal limit?


C'mon, man... a pair of 3CX800A7's?  That's 1600w of dissapation, 
fer-cryin'out-loud!  The right voltage on the plates would make 'em sing 
to -at least- 2kW pep output.  And some of these dual 4-1000 homebrew 
amps I hear on the air?  Isn't it the Alpha 8877 amp that runs 2 (not 
one, but *TWO*) 8877's in the output, EACH with a plate dissapation 
rating of 1,500w?


*shrug*

It's nice to remember the old days.  And, yes. the times, they are 
a'changing.   It's just that I just don't necessarily think some of us 
hams are changing in a good/positive way. 

The Law is Always The Law.  It doesn't bend because you run a different 
mode. 
The LEGAL output limit is 1500w PEP.


73 = Best Regards,
-Geoff/W5OMR



RE: [AMRadio] Old Novice Days

2005-02-23 Thread Schichler, Don
I believe it was changed sometime in the mid-70's when the 40 meter phone band 
was expanded.

Don K2FY



Geoff,

I think you are right about it being only 50kc wide. I don't know when 
they changed but in the early 60's it was from 7150 to 7200. My one and 
only crystal then was 7175 kc. You young kids probably don't remember 
that. :>)

73
Gary  K4FMX


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Re: [AMRadio] Old Novice Days

2005-02-23 Thread Gary Schafer



Geoff wrote:

Bill Connelly wrote:


Thank you!
Bill, W3MJ


At 12:09 PM 2/23/2005 -0600, you wrote:


Bob Macklin wrote:

<>In 1969 the 40M Novice segment was 7150 - 7200. In 1986 it was 
7100 - 7150.


Bob Macklin
K5MYJ/7
Seattle, Wa.





Before that.  I got my ticket in Feb of 1984, and it was 7100 to 7200kcs



Hold off on the thanks...  after I read and re-read that, something 
didn't look correct...


Let me try again, with these statements that I know (to the best of -my- 
current education)

to be fact...

I do not ever, at anytime, remember the Novice CW sub-band of 40m , 
being more than 50kc wide.


I've always known the Novice CW sub-band of 40m to be from 7100 to 7150kc.

There.  That's what Ive been -meaning- to say and/or stick with.
I, personally, don't ever remember the Novice band on 40m being as high 
as 7200kc




--
73 = Best Regards,
-Geoff/W5OMR



Geoff,

I think you are right about it being only 50kc wide. I don't know when 
they changed but in the early 60's it was from 7150 to 7200. My one and 
only crystal then was 7175 kc. You young kids probably don't remember 
that. :>)


73
Gary  K4FMX




[AMRadio] ART 13 Transmitter

2005-02-23 Thread w6om

Finally dug into all three ART 13's and ready to combine the best of two into 
one really nice AM transmitter and sell the third one.   Before I heat up the 
soldering iron, tube tester and VTVM I wonder if anyone has experiance using 
commerical or amateur power supplies with one of these beauties to save in home 
brewing one.

Thanks


Ron Weaver - W6OM - FO5VO

www.qsl.net/w6om



Re: [AMRadio] tubes needed

2005-02-23 Thread yves feder
I may have some 6K7's Ronnie - let me go look and I'll check back later - I 
may not have a glass one, but I'll look. Will you take metal if you can't 
get any glass?


no charge, OM - glad to help out:)

73
Al W1UX

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To: "AMRadio @ QTH" ; "newoldstock" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 2:31 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] tubes needed



Gentlemen

I am in need of the following tubes. Glass is preferable over metal tubes, 
in
keeping with the original style of tubes that were in this old console 
readio

I'm reworking.
6F6
6A8
6K7

if anyone has these spare and would part with them, please let me know 
what

you would take for them.

thanks

Ronnie

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don't believe us they can all go straight to hell"   Charlie Daniels
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Re: [AMRadio] Old Novice Days

2005-02-23 Thread Geoff

Bill Connelly wrote:


Thank you!
Bill, W3MJ


At 12:09 PM 2/23/2005 -0600, you wrote:


Bob Macklin wrote:

<>In 1969 the 40M Novice segment was 7150 - 7200. In 1986 it was 
7100 - 7150.


Bob Macklin
K5MYJ/7
Seattle, Wa.




Before that.  I got my ticket in Feb of 1984, and it was 7100 to 7200kcs



Hold off on the thanks...  after I read and re-read that, something 
didn't look correct...


Let me try again, with these statements that I know (to the best of -my- 
current education)

to be fact...

I do not ever, at anytime, remember the Novice CW sub-band of 40m , 
being more than 50kc wide.


I've always known the Novice CW sub-band of 40m to be from 7100 to 7150kc.

There.  That's what Ive been -meaning- to say and/or stick with. 

I, personally, don't ever remember the Novice band on 40m being as high 
as 7200kc




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73 = Best Regards,
-Geoff/W5OMR




[AMRadio] tubes needed

2005-02-23 Thread ronnie.hull
Gentlemen

I am in need of the following tubes. Glass is preferable over metal tubes, in 
keeping with the original style of tubes that were in this old console readio 
I'm reworking.
6F6
6A8
6K7

if anyone has these spare and would part with them, please let me know what 
you would take for them.

thanks

Ronnie

"This country may have stumbled but it aint ever fell, if the Russians 
don't believe us they can all go straight to hell"   Charlie Daniels


[AMRadio] Old Novice Days

2005-02-23 Thread w6om

Wow what a treat is has been reading all the reports, Ok here is mine.

Sept 27th, 1958, arrive home from school, play with the dog, stack my books in 
the bedroom and see an envelope from the FCC and Mr. CB Plummer authorzing me 
as a new novice, call sign WV6CZH.

After dinner and homework that night my nervous shaking hands pounded out my 
first CQ on my newly built DX-20 (which sets in my office today) on 40 CW and 
KL7AIZ in Adak answred me.  I was so scarred it took him several times sending 
his call before I got it.

The next Saturday found me on 15 CW where I worked my first Russian and 
Europeans, wow what a thrill.  That old BC-348 receiver sounded great and it 
also has a place of honor in my office.

The hobby became an obsession and set the path for my life, career and travels. 
 Whatever the business becomes will always be a result of my beginings in Ham 
Radio.

I share the story with anyone visiting our offices.

Thanks for the Bandwidth

Ron  W6OM

Founder & CEO   www.vipernetworks.com

PS: I still fire up those old boat anchors weekly and cruise around 40 CW.
   
> From: Geoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/02/23 Wed PM 01:09:06 EST
> To: Discussion of AM Radio 
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Old Novice Days
> 
> Bob Macklin wrote:
> 
> > <>In 1969 the 40M Novice segment was 7150 - 7200. In 1986 it was 7100 
> > - 7150.
> >
> > Bob Macklin
> > K5MYJ/7
> > Seattle, Wa.
> 
> 
> Before that.  I got my ticket in Feb of 1984, and it was 7100 to 7200kcs
> 
> 73 = Best Regards,
> -Geoff/W5OMR
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Re: [AMRadio] Old Novice Days

2005-02-23 Thread Bob Macklin
I had a TYPO!

In 1976 it was 7100 - 7150. From the 1976 ARRL Handbook.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ/7
Seattle, Wa.

"REAL RADIOS GLOW IN THE DARK"


- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Connelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Old Novice Days


> Thank you!
> Bill, W3MJ
>
>
> At 12:09 PM 2/23/2005 -0600, you wrote:
> >Bob Macklin wrote:
> >
> >><>In 1969 the 40M Novice segment was 7150 - 7200. In 1986 it was 7100 -
7150.
> >>
> >>Bob Macklin
> >>K5MYJ/7
> >>Seattle, Wa.
> >
> >
> >Before that.  I got my ticket in Feb of 1984, and it was 7100 to 7200kcs
> >
> >73 = Best Regards,
> >-Geoff/W5OMR
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Re: [AMRadio] Old Novice Days

2005-02-23 Thread Bill Connelly

Thank you!
Bill, W3MJ


At 12:09 PM 2/23/2005 -0600, you wrote:

Bob Macklin wrote:


<>In 1969 the 40M Novice segment was 7150 - 7200. In 1986 it was 7100 - 7150.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ/7
Seattle, Wa.



Before that.  I got my ticket in Feb of 1984, and it was 7100 to 7200kcs

73 = Best Regards,
-Geoff/W5OMR

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Re: [AMRadio] Old Novice Days

2005-02-23 Thread Geoff

Bob Macklin wrote:

<>In 1969 the 40M Novice segment was 7150 - 7200. In 1986 it was 7100 
- 7150.


Bob Macklin
K5MYJ/7
Seattle, Wa.



Before that.  I got my ticket in Feb of 1984, and it was 7100 to 7200kcs

73 = Best Regards,
-Geoff/W5OMR



Re: [AMRadio] Old Novice Days

2005-02-23 Thread Bob Macklin
In 1969 the 40M Novice segment was 7150 - 7200. In 1986 it was 7100 - 7150.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ/7
Seattle, Wa.

"REAL RADIOS GLOW IN THE DARK"

- Original Message - 
From: "ronnie.hull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:45 AM
Subject: RE: [AMRadio] Old Novice Days


> nope, I found my old log book and ALL of my novice qso's were on 7.155,
7.160
> and 7.175W5SUM
>
> "This country may have stumbled but it aint ever fell, if the Russians
> don't believe us they can all go straight to hell"   Charlie Daniels
>
> -- Original Message ---
> From: Bill Connelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Discussion of AM Radio 
> Sent: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:42:22 -0500
> Subject: RE: [AMRadio] Old Novice Days
>
> > I think the Novice band was 7100 to 7150.  My pet rock was 7110.
> >
> > Bill, W3MJ
> >
> > At 12:38 PM 2/23/2005 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Content-class: urn:content-classes:message
> > >Content-Type: text/plain;
> > > charset="utf-8"
> > >
> > >That's right, the 40 meter novice band in the 60's was from 7150 to
> > >7200.  The phone band was smaller then, from 7200 to 7300.  I can't
> > >remember the exact xtal frequencies, but I sure had a lot of fun on CW
as
> > >WN2QEV in 1964/1965.  At first I had to ask people to QRS, but after a
> > >short time it was no problem copying everybody.
> > >
> > >I shared a Heathkit DX-40 and KnightKit Star Roamer with my twin
brother
> > >Al, WN2QEW/NE2D.  Then we saved our pennies and bought a used
> > >Hallicrafters S-85 receiver, and discovered that 15 meters was far from
> > >being a "dead" band like it appeared to be with the Star Roamer.  We
had a
> > >lot of fun on that band as well.
> > >
> > >73, Don K2FY
> > >Rochester, NY
> > >
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Crawford
> > >Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 2:58 PM
> > >To: Discussion of AM Radio
> > >Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Old Novice Days
> > >
> > >
> > >The Novice 40m band in late '60's/early '70's was 7150 to 7200. I had
> > >crystals on 7173 and 7175 and 7163(I think). Lots of fun with Ameco
AC-1
> and
> > >Drake 2-A(sadly, don't have either one now).
> > >Joe W4AAB (WN4AUX 1972-73;WA4AUX
1973-
> 99)
> > >
> > >Geoff writes:
> > >
> > > > ronnie.hull wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> a recent qso about novice days, stimulated my interest and I got
out my
> > > >> old log books. My very first cq qso was on november 24, 1969, with
> > > >> WN8AAD, George in Hamden Ohio, on 7.160mhz, at 22:45I wonder
> whatever
> > > >> happened to ole George?
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > I swear I remember mom getting her ticket in 1967.  She is WB5BBF,
> > > > recently upgraded to general and renewed her ticket for another 10
> years.
> > > >
> > > > Even then, I *thought* I recalled the novice frequencies on 40m
being
> from
> > > > 7100 ~ 7150kc. The fone band was the same as it is now... 7150 ~
7300kc.
> > > >
> > > > Are you sure your first QSO was on 7160kc?
> > > >
> > > > ;-)
> > > >
> > > > 73 = Best Regards,
> > > > -Geoff/W5OMR (/5 New Orleans, LA)
> > > >
> > > >
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[AMRadio] FW: [Amps] VARIABLES CONDENSATORS

2005-02-23 Thread John Coleman
Just got this on another reflector thought some one here might be
interested.

John, WA5BXO

-Original Message-
From: John Coleman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 11:52 AM
To: AMRadio (amradio@mailman.qth.net)
Subject: FW: [Amps] VARIABLES CONDENSATORS

Just got this on another reflector thought some one here might be
interested.

John, WA5BXO

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Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 11:20 AM
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Subject: [Amps] VARIABLES CONDENSATORS

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RE: [AMRadio] Old Novice Days

2005-02-23 Thread ronnie.hull
nope, I found my old log book and ALL of my novice qso's were on 7.155, 7.160 
and 7.175W5SUM

"This country may have stumbled but it aint ever fell, if the Russians 
don't believe us they can all go straight to hell"   Charlie Daniels

-- Original Message ---
From: Bill Connelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Discussion of AM Radio 
Sent: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:42:22 -0500
Subject: RE: [AMRadio] Old Novice Days

> I think the Novice band was 7100 to 7150.  My pet rock was 7110.
> 
> Bill, W3MJ
> 
> At 12:38 PM 2/23/2005 -0500, you wrote:
> >Content-class: urn:content-classes:message
> >Content-Type: text/plain;
> > charset="utf-8"
> >
> >That's right, the 40 meter novice band in the 60's was from 7150 to 
> >7200.  The phone band was smaller then, from 7200 to 7300.  I can't 
> >remember the exact xtal frequencies, but I sure had a lot of fun on CW as 
> >WN2QEV in 1964/1965.  At first I had to ask people to QRS, but after a 
> >short time it was no problem copying everybody.
> >
> >I shared a Heathkit DX-40 and KnightKit Star Roamer with my twin brother 
> >Al, WN2QEW/NE2D.  Then we saved our pennies and bought a used 
> >Hallicrafters S-85 receiver, and discovered that 15 meters was far from 
> >being a "dead" band like it appeared to be with the Star Roamer.  We had a 
> >lot of fun on that band as well.
> >
> >73, Don K2FY
> >Rochester, NY
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Crawford
> >Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 2:58 PM
> >To: Discussion of AM Radio
> >Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Old Novice Days
> >
> >
> >The Novice 40m band in late '60's/early '70's was 7150 to 7200. I had
> >crystals on 7173 and 7175 and 7163(I think). Lots of fun with Ameco AC-1 
and
> >Drake 2-A(sadly, don't have either one now).
> >Joe W4AAB (WN4AUX 1972-73;WA4AUX 1973-
99)
> >
> >Geoff writes:
> >
> > > ronnie.hull wrote:
> > >
> > >> a recent qso about novice days, stimulated my interest and I got out my
> > >> old log books. My very first cq qso was on november 24, 1969, with
> > >> WN8AAD, George in Hamden Ohio, on 7.160mhz, at 22:45I wonder 
whatever
> > >> happened to ole George?
> > >>
> > >
> > > I swear I remember mom getting her ticket in 1967.  She is WB5BBF,
> > > recently upgraded to general and renewed her ticket for another 10 
years.
> > >
> > > Even then, I *thought* I recalled the novice frequencies on 40m being 
from
> > > 7100 ~ 7150kc. The fone band was the same as it is now... 7150 ~ 7300kc.
> > >
> > > Are you sure your first QSO was on 7160kc?
> > >
> > > ;-)
> > >
> > > 73 = Best Regards,
> > > -Geoff/W5OMR (/5 New Orleans, LA)
> > >
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RE: [AMRadio] Old Novice Days

2005-02-23 Thread Bill Connelly

I think the Novice band was 7100 to 7150.  My pet rock was 7110.

Bill, W3MJ

At 12:38 PM 2/23/2005 -0500, you wrote:

Content-class: urn:content-classes:message
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="utf-8"

That's right, the 40 meter novice band in the 60's was from 7150 to 
7200.  The phone band was smaller then, from 7200 to 7300.  I can't 
remember the exact xtal frequencies, but I sure had a lot of fun on CW as 
WN2QEV in 1964/1965.  At first I had to ask people to QRS, but after a 
short time it was no problem copying everybody.


I shared a Heathkit DX-40 and KnightKit Star Roamer with my twin brother 
Al, WN2QEW/NE2D.  Then we saved our pennies and bought a used 
Hallicrafters S-85 receiver, and discovered that 15 meters was far from 
being a "dead" band like it appeared to be with the Star Roamer.  We had a 
lot of fun on that band as well.


73, Don K2FY
Rochester, NY


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Crawford
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 2:58 PM
To: Discussion of AM Radio
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Old Novice Days


The Novice 40m band in late '60's/early '70's was 7150 to 7200. I had
crystals on 7173 and 7175 and 7163(I think). Lots of fun with Ameco AC-1 and
Drake 2-A(sadly, don't have either one now).
   Joe W4AAB (WN4AUX 1972-73;WA4AUX 1973-99)

Geoff writes:

> ronnie.hull wrote:
>
>> a recent qso about novice days, stimulated my interest and I got out my
>> old log books. My very first cq qso was on november 24, 1969, with
>> WN8AAD, George in Hamden Ohio, on 7.160mhz, at 22:45I wonder whatever
>> happened to ole George?
>>
>
> I swear I remember mom getting her ticket in 1967.  She is WB5BBF,
> recently upgraded to general and renewed her ticket for another 10 years.
>
> Even then, I *thought* I recalled the novice frequencies on 40m being from
> 7100 ~ 7150kc. The fone band was the same as it is now... 7150 ~ 7300kc.
>
> Are you sure your first QSO was on 7160kc?
>
> ;-)
>
> 73 = Best Regards,
> -Geoff/W5OMR (/5 New Orleans, LA)
>
>
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RE: [AMRadio] Old Novice Days

2005-02-23 Thread Schichler, Don
That's right, the 40 meter novice band in the 60's was from 7150 to 7200.  The 
phone band was smaller then, from 7200 to 7300.  I can't remember the exact 
xtal frequencies, but I sure had a lot of fun on CW as WN2QEV in 1964/1965.  At 
first I had to ask people to QRS, but after a short time it was no problem 
copying everybody.

I shared a Heathkit DX-40 and KnightKit Star Roamer with my twin brother Al, 
WN2QEW/NE2D.  Then we saved our pennies and bought a used Hallicrafters S-85 
receiver, and discovered that 15 meters was far from being a "dead" band like 
it appeared to be with the Star Roamer.  We had a lot of fun on that band as 
well.

73, Don K2FY
Rochester, NY


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Crawford
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 2:58 PM
To: Discussion of AM Radio
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Old Novice Days


The Novice 40m band in late '60's/early '70's was 7150 to 7200. I had 
crystals on 7173 and 7175 and 7163(I think). Lots of fun with Ameco AC-1 and 
Drake 2-A(sadly, don't have either one now).
   Joe W4AAB (WN4AUX 1972-73;WA4AUX 1973-99) 

Geoff writes: 

> ronnie.hull wrote: 
> 
>> a recent qso about novice days, stimulated my interest and I got out my 
>> old log books. My very first cq qso was on november 24, 1969, with 
>> WN8AAD, George in Hamden Ohio, on 7.160mhz, at 22:45I wonder whatever 
>> happened to ole George? 
>> 
> 
> I swear I remember mom getting her ticket in 1967.  She is WB5BBF, 
> recently upgraded to general and renewed her ticket for another 10 years. 
> 
> Even then, I *thought* I recalled the novice frequencies on 40m being from 
> 7100 ~ 7150kc. The fone band was the same as it is now... 7150 ~ 7300kc. 
> 
> Are you sure your first QSO was on 7160kc? 
> 
> ;-) 
> 
> 73 = Best Regards,
> -Geoff/W5OMR (/5 New Orleans, LA) 
> 
> 
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