Re: [AMRadio] Petition Pending
On 6/22/05, peter markavage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: **Yep, and besides old radios, they also like old fire trucks, police cars, airplanes, toy trains, etc. too. Just liking old radios does not prepare them for the amateur radio of today and tomorrow. They may be great to look at, but they sure don't prepare them for the technology of today. Prepare them how? To work on their radio gear, or even understand a simple circuit? How is the plug and play mentality more difficult to prepare for than actual hands-on experience and knowing how something works? My point was, and still is, that kids in general have little interest in something that resembles the plastic throw-away gadgets they already have or CB radio, and that old radios seem (at least, in my experiences) to connect with them more and spark their interest in learning and doing more with radio. I think the idea is to get them interested in ham radio, not just another appliance, because radio actually does involve a lot more than flipping a switch and turning a knob - or buying a G5RV antenna. **Maybe you should offer them some alternative suggestions to generating additional revenue for fighting BPL, Emergency Communications Training, ARRL services, Salaries, general operating costs, etc., etc. I don't see where they have many revenue generators at this time. And maybe the league should be less concerned with commercial success, salaries, commercial grade Harris gear, and what seems to amount to a $10m per year publishing house. I've tried offering suggestions to Mr Frenaye and others through the years, suggestions of how to get more hams involved with the league not how to run their business. They weren't interested in any of the basics like a simple one or two tube CW transmitter built from currently available parts - in fact, they weren't interested in anything related to basic radio. Only the big, important 'potential future uses'. A lot like their current reasoning for regulating by bandwidth. I was even told at one point that you didn't need to know this stuff because no one repairs their radios anymore: it's not possible due to such advanced technology. Therein lies the problem, in my view. **I see more amateurs today putting it down than dumbing it down. Are we talking about Amateur radio or the ARRL? (o: There is a point to teaching history in the classrooms. But, glowing tubes and dancing meters is what it is, a piece of history, kept alive by a small group of dedicated amateurs that we're both part of. It does not reflect the future of amateur radio and the direction that we should be pointing the future amateur radio members. It doesn't? How do you teach the basics of radio, Pete? By saying It's all surface-mount technology and can't be fixed by you, so don't bother? If not for the so-called 'small group of dedicated amateurs' you speak of, ham radio would be in far worse shape today then it now is. I suspect the 'future view' of the league hadn't planned on so many people getting involved with hands-on radio in the last 20 years or the resurgance of AM. I wish I could remember who it was that quoted the statistic to me that vintage gear/AM operators were the fastest growing group in amateur. This was several years back, and I think it was a league member. So much for the league's view of the future. They finally had to admit it was a force, though. John Dilk's column reflects this. I realize that we all move on, Pete - progress and all of that. I'm not against the advance of technology, I just don't think that the organization that proclaims to represent all of amateur radio should forsake virtually everything else about it in favor of their future view. Regulation by bandwidth to favor potential new technologies not widely (or currently) in use, with special 'exemptions' that can more easily be revoked for any current mode is not, IHMO, representing amateur radio as a whole: it's catering to one aspect at the expense of others. Let's face it, we can co-exist as we have for decades with other modes that don't randomly wipe out communications. We can also exist fine without the League trying to create more of a perceived role for itself in regulation. **It sounds better then listening to a digital packet burst. CW has audible rhythm, a packet burst doesn't. Absolutely. How is HF packet doing, btw? I don't hear much about it these days. **I bet this is the perceived back-door politics and alleged conspiracies that several people have alluded to over the last few years. Not in my book. Just bad 'business' and too much emphasis on the money aspect (which approach will do the best job of filling our coffers?) while not placing enough emphasis on representing all amateur radio interests equally, as they claim to. Claiming that they only went after BPL because the damage to amateur radio would have meant the end of the ARRL (all of those careers and salaries you eluded to) might fall into that category, but
Re: [AMRadio] Petition Pending
It seems to me you could get a kid started with something like a Heath HW-16 for CW. It's a lot cheaper than today's riceboxes. I wish there was more 2M CW/AM activity where I live. I miss the activity we had back in the late 60's when I lived in Silicon Valley. Bob Macklin K5MYJ/7 Seattle, Wa. REAL RADIOS GLOW IN THE DARK - Original Message - From: Todd, KA1KAQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of AM Radio amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:44 AM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Petition Pending On 6/22/05, peter markavage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: **Yep, and besides old radios, they also like old fire trucks, police cars, airplanes, toy trains, etc. too. Just liking old radios does not prepare them for the amateur radio of today and tomorrow. They may be great to look at, but they sure don't prepare them for the technology of today. Prepare them how? To work on their radio gear, or even understand a simple circuit? How is the plug and play mentality more difficult to prepare for than actual hands-on experience and knowing how something works? My point was, and still is, that kids in general have little interest in something that resembles the plastic throw-away gadgets they already have or CB radio, and that old radios seem (at least, in my experiences) to connect with them more and spark their interest in learning and doing more with radio. I think the idea is to get them interested in ham radio, not just another appliance, because radio actually does involve a lot more than flipping a switch and turning a knob - or buying a G5RV antenna. **Maybe you should offer them some alternative suggestions to generating additional revenue for fighting BPL, Emergency Communications Training, ARRL services, Salaries, general operating costs, etc., etc. I don't see where they have many revenue generators at this time. And maybe the league should be less concerned with commercial success, salaries, commercial grade Harris gear, and what seems to amount to a $10m per year publishing house. I've tried offering suggestions to Mr Frenaye and others through the years, suggestions of how to get more hams involved with the league not how to run their business. They weren't interested in any of the basics like a simple one or two tube CW transmitter built from currently available parts - in fact, they weren't interested in anything related to basic radio. Only the big, important 'potential future uses'. A lot like their current reasoning for regulating by bandwidth. I was even told at one point that you didn't need to know this stuff because no one repairs their radios anymore: it's not possible due to such advanced technology. Therein lies the problem, in my view. **I see more amateurs today putting it down than dumbing it down. Are we talking about Amateur radio or the ARRL? (o: There is a point to teaching history in the classrooms. But, glowing tubes and dancing meters is what it is, a piece of history, kept alive by a small group of dedicated amateurs that we're both part of. It does not reflect the future of amateur radio and the direction that we should be pointing the future amateur radio members. It doesn't? How do you teach the basics of radio, Pete? By saying It's all surface-mount technology and can't be fixed by you, so don't bother? If not for the so-called 'small group of dedicated amateurs' you speak of, ham radio would be in far worse shape today then it now is. I suspect the 'future view' of the league hadn't planned on so many people getting involved with hands-on radio in the last 20 years or the resurgance of AM. I wish I could remember who it was that quoted the statistic to me that vintage gear/AM operators were the fastest growing group in amateur. This was several years back, and I think it was a league member. So much for the league's view of the future. They finally had to admit it was a force, though. John Dilk's column reflects this. I realize that we all move on, Pete - progress and all of that. I'm not against the advance of technology, I just don't think that the organization that proclaims to represent all of amateur radio should forsake virtually everything else about it in favor of their future view. Regulation by bandwidth to favor potential new technologies not widely (or currently) in use, with special 'exemptions' that can more easily be revoked for any current mode is not, IHMO, representing amateur radio as a whole: it's catering to one aspect at the expense of others. Let's face it, we can co-exist as we have for decades with other modes that don't randomly wipe out communications. We can also exist fine without the League trying to create more of a perceived role for itself in regulation. **It sounds better then listening to a digital packet burst. CW has audible rhythm, a packet burst doesn't. Absolutely. How is HF packet doing, btw? I don't hear much about it these days. **I bet this is the perceived back-door politics and
[AMRadio] Matchbox Melts Down IC-735 ??
I need the benefit of your expertise. You may recall that I advertised a 275W EFJ matchbox on this list a month ago. Well, it didn't sell and it went on eBay where it did sell. The buyer hooked it up to his IC-735 without looking inside the matchbox (I had never done so either) and tried to transmit. He says that the IC-735 final blew as a result. He says that he then looked inside the matchbox and found a short that he thinks caused the melt down. I was thinking that this doesn't add up too well. But I have no experience with that ricebox. So I am also thinking that I should offer to help pay for the cleanup if I am at fault here. And that's the question: Am I at fault here? Any input appreciated. 73, Don Merz, N3RHT The information contained in this e-mail may be confidential and is intended solely for the use of the named addressee. Access, copying or re-use of the e-mail or any information contained therein by any other person is not authorized. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately by returning the e-mail to the originator.(17b)
Re: [AMRadio] Matchbox Melts Down IC-735 ??
I was thinking that this doesn't add up too well. But I have no experience with that ricebox. So I am also thinking that I should offer to help pay for the cleanup if I am at fault here. And that's the question: Am I at fault here? Any input appreciated. My .02$ is that if the guy was dumb enough to hook up a BALANCED tuner, and an old one at that, to his ricebox, especially without checking things out first, that you are in now way responsible, Don. He found a short? Why didn't he check the tuner BEFORE hooking it up to a radio it was in NO WAY designed to work with? Sounds fishy to me too. I would ask him to specifically detail the connection scheme. Is there an auto tuner in the 735? IIRC, I thought that the 735 had SWR protection built in. Sounds fishy, wait...I already said that. 73 de Dan -- WAØJRD ..
Re: [AMRadio] Matchbox Melts Down IC-735 ??
I would say you are not at fault unless you advertised the matchbox as in working order which would imply you checked it out. Otherwise, he should have checked out the matchbox which I would have done anyway! I'd offer to take the matchbox back and refund the sales price less shipping just to be a nice guy! Barry Sherwood KF5GC __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jun 23 12:09:35 2005 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Original-To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Delivered-To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Received: from hotmail.com (bay104-f37.bay104.hotmail.com [65.54.175.47]) by mailman.qth.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76800859C6D for amradio@mailman.qth.net; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:09:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:01:13 -0700 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from 65.54.175.208 by by104fd.bay104.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:01:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.54.175.208] X-Originating-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Donald Chester [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Petition Pending Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:01:12 + Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jun 2005 16:01:13.0306 (UTC) FILETIME=[C7915BA0:01C5780C] X-BeenThere: amradio@mailman.qth.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: Discussion of AM Radio amradio@mailman.qth.net List-Id: Discussion of AM Radio amradio.mailman.qth.net List-Unsubscribe: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/private/amradio List-Post: mailto:amradio@mailman.qth.net List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:09:35 - That brave, young Boy Scout, who was found yesterday after five harrowing days lost in the Utah wilderness, soon after munching down some Granola bars, asked if he could borrow a cell phone to play a video game. Does that tell you anything about the interests of young people? I heard on the news that rescuers had come very close to finding him several times, but each time he hid from them because he had been told to avoid strangers. That doesn't sound like bravery to me, but indoctrination. What else does that tell about our society today and young people?
Re: [AMRadio] Matchbox Melts Down IC-735 ??
My matchbox does not have any short. The input goes to the relay that switches from transmitter to receiver. If he didn't set the relay to transmit and hooked the transceiver to the transmit port it may have shorted. You have to connect to the receive port with a transceiver unless you activate the relay. I just bypassed the relay in mine. He should have gotten the schematic first and checked out the correct hookup. He must have been a memorize and take the test ham with limited technical ability. Well, ignorance is no excuse. AS-is is as-is. Unless something is mis-advertisedv - caveat emptor. Healthfully yours, DON W4BWS - Original Message - From: Merz Donald S [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Amradio (E-mail) amradio@mailman.qth.net; 'Glowbugs (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:07 AM Subject: [AMRadio] Matchbox Melts Down IC-735 ?? I need the benefit of your expertise. You may recall that I advertised a 275W EFJ matchbox on this list a month ago. Well, it didn't sell and it went on eBay where it did sell. The buyer hooked it up to his IC-735 without looking inside the matchbox (I had never done so either) and tried to transmit. He says that the IC-735 final blew as a result. He says that he then looked inside the matchbox and found a short that he thinks caused the melt down. I was thinking that this doesn't add up too well. But I have no experience with that ricebox. So I am also thinking that I should offer to help pay for the cleanup if I am at fault here. And that's the question: Am I at fault here? Any input appreciated. 73, Don Merz, N3RHT The information contained in this e-mail may be confidential and is intended solely for the use of the named addressee. Access, copying or re-use of the e-mail or any information contained therein by any other person is not authorized. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately by returning the e-mail to the originator.(17b) __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Petition Pending
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:01:12 + Donald Chester [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That brave, young Boy Scout, who was found yesterday after five harrowing days lost in the Utah wilderness, soon after munching down some Granola bars, asked if he could borrow a cell phone to play a video game. Does that tell you anything about the interests of young people? Probably a lot better than asking if anyone had a smoke, some weed, or a joint. I heard on the news that rescuers had come very close to finding him several times, but each time he hid from them because he had been told to avoid strangers. That doesn't sound like bravery to me, but indoctrination. What else does that tell about our society today and young people? Sounds like a kid who listens to his parents. My understanding is that many of the rescuers wore no identifying shirts. I guess he choose to err on the side of caution. Pete, wa2cwa
[AMRadio] A bit OT: wire stripper?
I've been doing a bit of rewinding, enamel wire from #28 to #18 - I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with a decent (and available!) chemical stripper for this stuff, like StripX was - I can't find that anymore - seems to have mutated into some kind of programmable interactive soft-porn computer game. Not that it's a *bad thing*, necessarily. I've been using a knife, sandpaper, a Dremel tool and solder pot with varying results - the pot works best, obviously, but it takes a lot of juice and it's relatively messy. I'd like to have a source of some nice gunk you can just dip the wire in and wipe off the insulation. Maybe I'm dreaming - in this post-EPA world... Just thought I'd ask. Cheers John KB6SCO
Re: [AMRadio] Matchbox Melts Down IC-735 ??
Also- These tuners had a T/R relay built in. Bet he didn't hook THAT up! If that was the problem, here again, Don Not your fault. Good luck. Greg, KC8HXO Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [AMRadio] Petition Pending
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:44:52 -0400 Todd, KA1KAQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Prepare them how? To work on their radio gear, or even understand a simple circuit? How is the plug and play mentality more difficult to prepare for than actual hands-on experience and knowing how something works? My point was, and still is, that kids in general have little interest in something that resembles the plastic throw-away gadgets they already have or CB radio, and that old radios seem (at least, in my experiences) to connect with them more and spark their interest in learning and doing more with radio. I think the idea is to get them interested in ham radio, not just another appliance, because radio actually does involve a lot more than flipping a switch and turning a knob - or buying a G5RV antenna. **I guess you're making the assumption that anyone getting into amateur radio today is doing it for the technical aspects. i.e. work on gear, understand circuits, be a future engineer, etc. I believe many of the amateurs coming into the service are more interested in the communication aspects rather than the technical aspects. The talking to people, random at times, and communicating with them about their respective cultures, interests, etc., around the world in real time without wires is very appealing, interesting, fun, and challenging. The interest in contesting, with all its competitive spirit, is showing great strides with amateurs who have been in the service only 5 or 10 years. The integration of amateur radio, the Internet, and wireless technologies are slowing evolving and probably will hit main-stream amateur radio in under 5 years. The need for technical and hands-on circuit experience is good to have if you desire that background but, for the communicator interest it's not necessary. And maybe the league should be less concerned with commercial success, salaries, commercial grade Harris gear, and what seems to amount to a $10m per year publishing house. **The above statement makes no sense to me. My simple question was, if they don't sell books, memberships, Ad's in QST, etc., how to they generate revenue to fund all the activities to support amateur radio and its members? I've tried offering suggestions to Mr Frenaye and others through the years, suggestions of how to get more hams involved with the league not how to run their business. They weren't interested in any of the basics like a simple one or two tube CW transmitter built from currently available parts - in fact, they weren't interested in anything related to basic radio. Only the big, important 'potential future uses'. A lot like their current reasoning for regulating by bandwidth. I was even told at one point that you didn't need to know this stuff because no one repairs their radios anymore: it's not possible due to such advanced technology. Therein lies the problem, in my view. **I've seen simple tube circuits in QST in recent years. Are we talking about Amateur radio or the ARRL? (I said, I see more amateurs today putting it down than dumbing it down. **You said in an earlier e-mail, If 'saving amateur radio' means dumbing it down... It doesn't? How do you teach the basics of radio, Pete? By saying It's all surface-mount technology and can't be fixed by you, so don't bother? If not for the so-called 'small group of dedicated amateurs' you speak of, ham radio would be in far worse shape today then it now is. I suspect the 'future view' of the league hadn't planned on so many people getting involved with hands-on radio in the last 20 years or the resurgence of AM. I wish I could remember who it was that quoted the statistic to me that vintage gear/AM operators were the fastest growing group in amateur. This was several years back, and I think it was a league member. So much for the league's view of the future. They finally had to admit it was a force, though. John Dilk's column reflects this. **Back in the middle and late 90's vintage gear and AM were the rage. Hams that were licensed 30, 40, 50 years ago were running around grabbing up all that vintage stuff they couldn't afford when they were first licensed. With the intro of Ebay on the scene, it made it even easier to find this stuff, and more importantly, this activity help drive the demand prices way up making it even more attractive for sellers. fastest growing group maybe several years ago, but I doubt you'll see our ranks swelling to great heights. John's column reflects Old Radios and not just AM. I realize that we all move on, Pete - progress and all of that. I'm not against the advance of technology, I just don't think that the organization that proclaims to represent all of amateur radio should forsake virtually everything else about it in favor of their future view. Regulation by bandwidth to favor potential new technologies not widely (or currently) in use, with special 'exemptions' that can more easily be revoked for any
Re: [AMRadio] Matchbox Melts Down IC-735 ??
Don, I have a Viking 275 matchbox myself. I have wooden shim in the TR relay so I can use it like a newer style tuner. Took it out of my 600L amplifier... As for an Icom 735, I'm not too sure how robust those rigs are, but surely it has some sort of SWR protection circuit? I wonder how long this guy kept turning up the coal into a bad load? Since you sold this thing on Ebay, whether you are right or wrong, your feedback may reflect your next step. Think carefully before proceeding. Good Luck Don, 73, Jim Candela WD5JKO --- Greg S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also- These tuners had a T/R relay built in. Bet he didn't hook THAT up! If that was the problem, here again, Don Not your fault. Good luck. Greg, KC8HXO Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] A bit OT: wire stripper?
John, Try W4JBM's Hints and Tips. See the link, and scroll down. http://www.geocities.com/w4jbm/hints.html Regards, Jim Candela WD5JKO --- John Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been doing a bit of rewinding, enamel wire from #28 to #18 - I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with a decent (and available!) chemical stripper for this stuff, like StripX was - I can't find that anymore - seems to have mutated into some kind of programmable interactive soft-porn computer game. Not that it's a *bad thing*, necessarily. I've been using a knife, sandpaper, a Dremel tool and solder pot with varying results - the pot works best, obviously, but it takes a lot of juice and it's relatively messy. I'd like to have a source of some nice gunk you can just dip the wire in and wipe off the insulation. Maybe I'm dreaming - in this post-EPA world... Just thought I'd ask. Cheers John KB6SCO __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
[AMRadio] Thank You! --WAS:Matchbox Melts Down IC-735 ??
Thanks to the 22 folks who were kind enough to take the time to reply. The consensus of the replies is that I may choose to offer the buyer his money back if he returns the matchbox. But I could also choose not to do so, at the peril of my eBay feedback rating. Comments about the user's use of the Matchbox are summarized as: 1. It's a balanced tuner. Running it with an unbalanced output from a transceiver could be unpredictable. 2. It has a T/R relay that defaults to R. Was the T/R relay properly energized? 3. Icom's literature says that the IC-735 does have thermal overload protection against high SWR. Why didn't it work? 4. The meltdown could have occurred due to a violent mismatch into which the operator let the TX transmit too long. So I guess I still have a decision to make. I am not sure what I will do yet. But thanks all for your help and moral support. It's the first time anything like this has happened to me... 73, Don Merz, N3RHT -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Merz Donald S Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:07 AM To: 'Amradio (E-mail); 'Glowbugs (E-mail) Subject: [AMRadio] Matchbox Melts Down IC-735 ?? I need the benefit of your expertise. You may recall that I advertised a 275W EFJ matchbox on this list a month ago. Well, it didn't sell and it went on eBay where it did sell. The buyer hooked it up to his IC-735 without looking inside the matchbox (I had never done so either) and tried to transmit. He says that the IC-735 final blew as a result. He says that he then looked inside the matchbox and found a short that he thinks caused the melt down. I was thinking that this doesn't add up too well. But I have no experience with that ricebox. So I am also thinking that I should offer to help pay for the cleanup if I am at fault here. And that's the question: Am I at fault here? Any input appreciated. 73, Don Merz, N3RHT The information contained in this e-mail may be confidential and is intended solely for the use of the named addressee. Access, copying or re-use of the e-mail or any information contained therein by any other person is not authorized. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately by returning the e-mail to the originator.(16b)
Re: [AMRadio] Thank You! --WAS:Matchbox Melts Down IC-735 ??
Don, Send the buyer a copy of all the responses you received here. Bob Macklin K5MYJ/7 Seattle, Wa. REAL RADIOS GLOW IN THE DARK - Original Message - From: Merz Donald S [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of AM Radio amradio@mailman.qth.net; 'Glowbugs (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:16 AM Subject: [AMRadio] Thank You! --WAS:Matchbox Melts Down IC-735 ?? Thanks to the 22 folks who were kind enough to take the time to reply. The consensus of the replies is that I may choose to offer the buyer his money back if he returns the matchbox. But I could also choose not to do so, at the peril of my eBay feedback rating. Comments about the user's use of the Matchbox are summarized as: 1. It's a balanced tuner. Running it with an unbalanced output from a transceiver could be unpredictable. 2. It has a T/R relay that defaults to R. Was the T/R relay properly energized? 3. Icom's literature says that the IC-735 does have thermal overload protection against high SWR. Why didn't it work? 4. The meltdown could have occurred due to a violent mismatch into which the operator let the TX transmit too long. So I guess I still have a decision to make. I am not sure what I will do yet. But thanks all for your help and moral support. It's the first time anything like this has happened to me... 73, Don Merz, N3RHT -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Merz Donald S Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:07 AM To: 'Amradio (E-mail); 'Glowbugs (E-mail) Subject: [AMRadio] Matchbox Melts Down IC-735 ?? I need the benefit of your expertise. You may recall that I advertised a 275W EFJ matchbox on this list a month ago. Well, it didn't sell and it went on eBay where it did sell. The buyer hooked it up to his IC-735 without looking inside the matchbox (I had never done so either) and tried to transmit. He says that the IC-735 final blew as a result. He says that he then looked inside the matchbox and found a short that he thinks caused the melt down. I was thinking that this doesn't add up too well. But I have no experience with that ricebox. So I am also thinking that I should offer to help pay for the cleanup if I am at fault here. And that's the question: Am I at fault here? Any input appreciated. 73, Don Merz, N3RHT The information contained in this e-mail may be confidential and is intended solely for the use of the named addressee. Access, copying or re-use of the e-mail or any information contained therein by any other person is not authorized. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately by returning the e-mail to the originator.(16b) __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Viking Ranger movement
Byron, If your find doesn't materialize, give me the meter and I will see if I have a movement that can be put in yourold case, and use your old dial. Bill - Original Message - From: kenw2dtc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of AM Radio amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Viking Ranger movement The meter in my Viking Ranger appears to have an open winding.Any idea where I might find a replacement movement or replacement meter? Byron, W3WKR Well, more or less Yes: http://w2dtc.com/w2dtc-for-sale-or-swap-page.htm 73, Ken W2DTC __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.9/23 - Release Date: 6/20/05
Re: [AMRadio] A bit OT: wire stripper?
Try paint remover. Dave, VE1ADH --- John Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been doing a bit of rewinding, enamel wire from #28 to #18 - I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with a decent (and available!) chemical stripper for this stuff, like StripX was - I can't find that anymore - seems to have mutated into some kind of programmable interactive soft-porn computer game. Not that it's a *bad thing*, necessarily. I've been using a knife, sandpaper, a Dremel tool and solder pot with varying results - the pot works best, obviously, but it takes a lot of juice and it's relatively messy. I'd like to have a source of some nice gunk you can just dip the wire in and wipe off the insulation. Maybe I'm dreaming - in this post-EPA world... Just thought I'd ask. Cheers John KB6SCO __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [AMRadio] Matchbox Melts Down IC-735 ??
In a message dated 6/23/05 10:49:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since you sold this thing on Ebay, whether you are right or wrong, your feedback may reflect your next step. Think carefully before proceeding. I dunno, one or two negative feedback's really a problem? Also, the seller gets the last word.. Dennis D. Glendale, CA
Re: [AMRadio] roundtable ettiquette
PJ y ou have probably opened a can of worms here LOL R -- Original Message --- From: Patrick Jankowiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:39:48 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] roundtable ettiquette Is there anywhere printed the 'netiquette' type of rules for joining and leaving a voice communications (AM) round table? for instance, what is bad manners, what is good manners, how exactly it works, etc. Thanks, PJ __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net --- End of Original Message ---
Re: [AMRadio] roundtable ettiquette
There are no rules. Just listen on the frequency for a while and you will find out how to join and how to quit. Sometimes late in the evenings, especially on weekends, when the 6 pack or 12 pack kicks in there are people with no manners at all, and they get along just fine because the other guys on frequency don't recognize it. So, basically, you listen, listen some more and decide whether you want to join that particular group or not. 73, Ken W2DTC P.S. Yes, I'm sometimes a sucker for an internet troll, how did I do? --- - Original Message - From: ronnie.hull [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of AM Radio amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] roundtable ettiquette PJ y ou have probably opened a can of worms here LOL R -- Original Message --- From: Patrick Jankowiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:39:48 -0500 Subject: [AMRadio] roundtable ettiquette Is there anywhere printed the 'netiquette' type of rules for joining and leaving a voice communications (AM) round table? for instance, what is bad manners, what is good manners, how exactly it works, etc. Thanks, PJ __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net --- End of Original Message --- __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
RE: [AMRadio] roundtable ettiquette
Is there anywhere printed the 'netiquette' type of rules for joining and leaving a voice communications (AM) round table? It's pretty loose :-) 1. Find someplace besides right smack dab on top of the existing round table to tune up. 2. Wait for someone to turn it to the next person in the rotation and just throw out your call. Break your call works, too. AM'ers generally leave a space between transmissions just for this purpose. If it's a more VOX-like exchange in progress, wait for a break and then announce yourself. Virtually all AM QSO's welcome anyone that happens by. 3. Leaving is about the same. Let people know you're going, that this will be your last transmission, etc. Don't just vanish. If you have to leave out of turn, use that space between transmissions to jump in quickly and let folks know you're going, then pass it to the person that was next in the rotation. 4. The bigger the group, the shorter your transmissions ought to get. There's nothing worse than a roundtable of 6-8 or more people all making long old buzzard transmissions -- it can be an hour (or longer) before you get to open your mouth again :-) What else? -- I don't know --- leave the bodily noises outside the radio room, and remember that you probably have a bigger general audience on AM than you would on sidband. If I'm working in the room but not participating I'd MUCH rather listen to an interesting AM QSO than the other stuff ... Grant/NQ5T
Re: [AMRadio] roundtable ettiquette
Everyone has had good advice for PJ and I want to add that anyone who would inquire here before flipping the transmit switch is welcome into any conversation he hears W5JO. In the past few decades we have complained about those who do not ask and do some of the things Grant mentioned. PJ you are to be commended on wanting to do things right, congratulations and welcome to the group. Most everyone will work with you as time goes by, just announce your call and listen to how the group participates. Here in the Southwest things are a little different than on the East coast. Just don't be intimidated. From me, thanks for asking. 73 Jim W5JO - Original Message - From: Grant Youngman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Discussion of AM Radio' amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:01 PM Subject: RE: [AMRadio] roundtable ettiquette Is there anywhere printed the 'netiquette' type of rules for joining and leaving a voice communications (AM) round table? It's pretty loose :-) 1. Find someplace besides right smack dab on top of the existing round table to tune up. 2. Wait for someone to turn it to the next person in the rotation and just throw out your call. Break your call works, too. AM'ers generally leave a space between transmissions just for this purpose. If it's a more VOX-like exchange in progress, wait for a break and then announce yourself. Virtually all AM QSO's welcome anyone that happens by. 3. Leaving is about the same. Let people know you're going, that this will be your last transmission, etc. Don't just vanish. If you have to leave out of turn, use that space between transmissions to jump in quickly and let folks know you're going, then pass it to the person that was next in the rotation. 4. The bigger the group, the shorter your transmissions ought to get. There's nothing worse than a roundtable of 6-8 or more people all making long old buzzard transmissions -- it can be an hour (or longer) before you get to open your mouth again :-) What else? -- I don't know --- leave the bodily noises outside the radio room, and remember that you probably have a bigger general audience on AM than you would on sidband. If I'm working in the room but not participating I'd MUCH rather listen to an interesting AM QSO than the other stuff ... Grant/NQ5T
Re: [AMRadio] roundtable ettiquette
As an avid listener, I say the rule is to flip the switch and talk for as long as you possibly can about nothing. If you unkey in under 5 minutes, you'll be forgotten on the next go around. When the next guy keys up, he will talk about what he wants with no regard to what you were just talking about. I'd say its more like BROADCASTING, but they are taking turns sharing the channel! ;-) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [AMRadio] roundtable ettiquette
Grant, NQ5T, got it right. I would only add DON'T SCREW UP THE ROTATION! Write down a list of participants, keep it current as people check in and out and, above all, keep track of who passes the turn to you and who gets it next, i.e., stay in the game. Dennis D. W7QHO Glendale, CA In a message dated 6/23/05 6:01:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. Find someplace besides right smack dab on top of the existing round table to tune up. 2. Wait for someone to turn it to the next person in the rotation and just throw out your call. Break your call works, too. AM'ers generally leave a space between transmissions just for this purpose. If it's a more VOX-like exchange in progress, wait for a break and then announce yourself. Virtually all AM QSO's welcome anyone that happens by. 3. Leaving is about the same. Let people know you're going, that this will be your last transmission, etc. Don't just vanish. If you have to leave out of turn, use that space between transmissions to jump in quickly and let folks know you're going, then pass it to the person that was next in the rotation. 4. The bigger the group, the shorter your transmissions ought to get. There's nothing worse than a roundtable of 6-8 or more people all making long old buzzard transmissions -- it can be an hour (or longer) before you get to open your mouth again :-) What else? -- I don't know --- leave the bodily noises outside the radio room, and remember that you probably have a bigger general audience on AM than you would on sidband. If I'm working in the room but not participating I'd MUCH rather listen to an interesting AM QSO than the other stuff ... Grant/NQ5T Dennis D. W7QHO Glendale, CA
