[AMRadio] good experience with shipping past 2 months

2006-07-30 Thread John Lyles
I just finished receiving a series of large parcels with a completely 
disassembled 500 watt AM modulator, from East Coast to NM. Some were sent Fedex 
at my request, including the modulation transformer, a Stancor Polypedance. 
There were a pair of 810 triodes and some other transformers (fil, driver). The 
others went UPS. They were packaged extremely well, and I didn't see any damage 
to the parts, or packages. Maybe I was lucky, but I think there were 4 packages 
that came through just fine. I have shipped and received numerous things via 
UPS and Fedex out here over the years, and the only things that really got 
hammered were poorly packaged as well. So I think a lot of the responsibility 
lies on the sender and how much they care to overbox, foam pack, bubble wrap, 
remove heavy iron and ship separate, etc. 

I received an hp 8751A network analyzer last year, off epay, and it was poorly 
packed. I knew it was going to be trouble, as the shipper wouldn't communicate 
by email, and was a jerk about responding to my pleas for extra care packaging. 
Probablythat I won the thing for a little over  a grand instead of the 
typical $3 grand those things go for. The thing was only packed in styro 
peanuts, thats it - in a huge weak cardboard box. When I knew it was at the UPS 
warehouse, I drove there to pick it up after counter hours. They allow me to do 
that. I unpacked it right there in the parking lot, not that I could have made 
a claim, since it was so poorly packed. However, i was very lucky, as the thing 
had shifted to one edge of the box, but miraculously had not had the CRT 
smashed or the connectors bent on the front or back. There were some typical 
holes in the box via UPS, and they missed the thing. So I said a prayer, took 
it home, and plugged it in - fine. 

I am most wary of epay deals in which the shipper doesn't really know what he 
is selling, or the value of it to us. 

73
John
K5PRO




RE: [AMRadio] good experience with shipping past 2 months

2006-07-30 Thread W1EOF
 I unpacked it
 right there in the parking lot, not that I could have made a
 claim, since it was so poorly packed. However, i was very lucky,

UPS *wants* you to believe that. I have heard from several people lately
that pushed the point and got their damages from UPS. The legal fact is that
if they accept the packaging on the input end they cannot later declare that
it was not packed properly.

Me? I just avoid UPS whenever I can and use USPS almost exclusively. YMMV

73,

Mark W1EOF

 -Original Message-
 From: John Lyles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 11:58 AM
 To: amradio@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [AMRadio] good experience with shipping past 2 months


 I just finished receiving a series of large parcels with a
 completely disassembled 500 watt AM modulator, from East Coast to
 NM. Some were sent Fedex at my request, including the modulation
 transformer, a Stancor Polypedance. There were a pair of 810
 triodes and some other transformers (fil, driver). The others
 went UPS. They were packaged extremely well, and I didn't see any
 damage to the parts, or packages. Maybe I was lucky, but I think
 there were 4 packages that came through just fine. I have shipped
 and received numerous things via UPS and Fedex out here over the
 years, and the only things that really got hammered were poorly
 packaged as well. So I think a lot of the responsibility lies on
 the sender and how much they care to overbox, foam pack, bubble
 wrap, remove heavy iron and ship separate, etc.

 I received an hp 8751A network analyzer last year, off epay, and
 it was poorly packed. I knew it was going to be trouble, as the
 shipper wouldn't communicate by email, and was a jerk about
 responding to my pleas for extra care packaging. Probably
 that I won the thing for a little over  a grand instead of the
 typical $3 grand those things go for. The thing was only packed
 in styro peanuts, thats it - in a huge weak cardboard box. When I
 knew it was at the UPS warehouse, I drove there to pick it up
 after counter hours. They allow me to do that. I unpacked it
 right there in the parking lot, not that I could have made a
 claim, since it was so poorly packed. However, i was very lucky,
 as the thing had shifted to one edge of the box, but miraculously
 had not had the CRT smashed or the connectors bent on the front
 or back. There were some typical holes in the box via UPS, and
 they missed the thing. So I said a prayer, took it home, and
 plugged it in - fine.

 I am most wary of epay deals in which the shipper doesn't really
 know what he is selling, or the value of it to us.

 73
 John
 K5PRO


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[AMRadio] UPS

2006-07-30 Thread charles free
My buddy received his rig recenly with the box
somewhat flat, with a set of dual wheel tire tracks
across the top.  UPS argued they had received it that
way.

A company I order machine tool parts from, will not
send anything over 75 lbs via UPS even though UPS will
accpet 105lbs.  I tried to order a machinist vise for
my mill, and the dealer said it had to go by truck, a
$45 doller option, because UPS had a history of
damaging this 79lb piece of iron.  If UPS can damage
what amounts to just of hunk of solid iron, what do
you think it will do to you precious antique that
weighs in and around that amount?

I have used FedEx ground for years.  They are faster,
deliver on Saurday, usually the same price or cheaper,
and have never had a problem with them.

My company has an account with UPS.  One day, do to a
package confusion, I was in the truck looking for an
overnight package.  I found it, and next to it was
another for our company.  I asked if I could take that
one too, and he checked and said no, this was not an
overnight, it was a 3-5 day shipment.  It rode on the
truck for 4 days before he dropped it off.

A friend whose is a gun dealer here, also uses FedEx,
they will pick anything he has to ship for $4.  UPS in
its paranoia based corporate mentality, requires the
dealer to hand carry the firearm to a particular
person and hand it over at an exorbitant rate.  if
that fellow is off that day, you don't ship.

When I deal with a company who also sends one of those
prepaid mailer cards asking how they did, I always
request they give up on UPS and use FedEx, and I
always comment to UPS via email about their poor
service.

The USPS outdoes UPS hands down nowadays too.  I
recently returned  a machine tool that the dealer sent
to me via UPS that took 6 days to get to me from
Atlanta, GA.  I returned it via the USPS, it arrived
in ATL in one day, and a credit appeared on my account
the second day after I mailed it.

Just a run down of my dealing with UPS.

Charlie, W4MEC in NC

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Re: [AMRadio] UPS Shipping

2006-07-30 Thread Donald Chester



That's because the warehouse guys pick a couple
packages to play football with and yours might be one
of them...

Shipping boatanchors via UPS is like playing Russian
roulette.


I used to service electronic equipment at the American Airlines terminal at 
Logan Airport in Boston.  One of the machines I serviced was located in the 
luggage handling area.  It was not unusual to see guys come in ticked off by 
something and grab a suitcase and slam it on the floor, or kick a piece of 
luggage off the conveyor belt and then stomp it with all their might.  I 
suspect UPS workers are no different.


Don k4kyv




Re: [AMRadio] UPS Shipping

2006-07-30 Thread Jim Wilhite
I was the manager of the Motorola Service Center near the interchange 
terminal in Mesquite, TX back in the mid 80's


Your description is accurate.  But there are other things UPS people do that 
are absolutely outstanding to check the integrity of packages.


I won't relay all the details, but I haven't  used them since then and won't 
unless they are the last resort.


73  Jim
W5JO





That's because the warehouse guys pick a couple
packages to play football with and yours might be one
of them...

Shipping boatanchors via UPS is like playing Russian
roulette.


I used to service electronic equipment at the American Airlines terminal 
at Logan Airport in Boston.  One of the machines I serviced was located in 
the luggage handling area.  It was not unusual to see guys come in ticked 
off by something and grab a suitcase and slam it on the floor, or kick a 
piece of luggage off the conveyor belt and then stomp it with all their 
might.  I suspect UPS workers are no different.


Don k4kyv





[AMRadio] Re: UPS Shipping

2006-07-30 Thread Radio Station W5AMI

I've recently ordered several pieces of equipment from the same source
that came via FedEx at various times during a month or so and each box
looked as if it hadn't even been shipped.  Clean, no holes, bends or
impressions on the boxes at all.  I've also had good luck with DHL
recently too.

I've also found that I am a lot more willing to pay for faster
shipping these days since the longer the time that item is out there,
God only knows where, the better the odds are it will get damaged.

I've not been a happy camper with UPS for quite some time...



On 7/30/06, Jim Wilhite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I was the manager of the Motorola Service Center near the interchange
terminal in Mesquite, TX back in the mid 80's

Your description is accurate.  But there are other things UPS people do that
are absolutely outstanding to check the integrity of packages.

I won't relay all the details, but I haven't  used them since then and won't
unless they are the last resort.

73  Jim
W5JO



That's because the warehouse guys pick a couple
packages to play football with and yours might be one
of them...

Shipping boatanchors via UPS is like playing Russian
roulette.

 I used to service electronic equipment at the American Airlines terminal
 at Logan Airport in Boston.  One of the machines I serviced was located in
 the luggage handling area.  It was not unusual to see guys come in ticked
 off by something and grab a suitcase and slam it on the floor, or kick a
 piece of luggage off the conveyor belt and then stomp it with all their
 might.  I suspect UPS workers are no different.

 Don k4kyv


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[AMRadio] 10 Meters Open

2006-07-30 Thread Mike Duke, K5XU
I'm hearing FM from W2 land into Mississippi.

Anyone for AM?




Mike Duke, K5XU
American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs




Re: [AMRadio] 10 Meters Open

2006-07-30 Thread JohnPerz
Can hear on the west coast of Florida also
WA2FNS