Re: [AMRadio] Recent insulting threads

2008-01-22 Thread Todd, KA1KAQ
On Jan 20, 2008 12:53 PM, A.R.S. - WA5AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What the hell is wrong here people?  Is it the elections?  Winter?  
 Sidebanders?  What?

Heh, maybe a bit of all three Brian, plus the lack of on air time?

Cabin Fever could be seen as a cause as easily as all the political
crap on the TV, radio, online, and so on. Sidebanders, wellthis
gets back to the 'bad apples in every walk of life' comment, so maybe
less likely.

The original point (how we choose to represent amateur radio,
basically) is a good one. It warrants some scrutiny if we wish to
showcase amateur radio in general, and AM specifically to upcoming
generations.

Pointing out the obvious should be simple enough without resorting to
doing so in an elitist or antagonistic way. In the end, people are
free to live their lives as they choose, regardless of how ridiculous
or repulsive we might find it.

I prefer to blame the free choice folks make to live their lives
online instead of getting on the air to actually operate, promote, and
enjoy amateur radio. A recent discussion on 80 meters highlighted how
so many who have all the answers both here and on AMfone
mysteriously never seem to be heard on the air. IMO, that's where the
problem lies: the disconnect between talking about it and actually
doing it.

But then again, you know what they say about opinions  (o:

~ Todd,  KA1KAQ
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Re: [AMRadio] Recent threads

2008-01-22 Thread Peter Markavage
You should never assume that because you don't hear them on the air,
that people here and on AMfone aren't on the air. There's a lot more to
ham radio then just working 80 meter AM!

Pete, wa2cwa
http://www.manualman.com

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:48:58 -0500 Todd, KA1KAQ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 I prefer to blame the free choice folks make to live their lives
 online instead of getting on the air to actually operate, promote, 
 and
 enjoy amateur radio. A recent discussion on 80 meters highlighted 
 how
 so many who have all the answers both here and on AMfone
 mysteriously never seem to be heard on the air. IMO, that's where 
 the
 problem lies: the disconnect between talking about it and actually
 doing it.
 
 But then again, you know what they say about opinions  (o:
 
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Re: [AMRadio] Recent insulting threads

2008-01-22 Thread jkhildre
I remember back in the 60's, there was an old guy in California that raged 
every day about side banders what a bunch of commies they were. He was a big 
pain in the patoot.
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On Jan 20, 2008 12:53 PM, A.R.S. - WA5AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What the hell is wrong here people?  Is it the elections?  Winter? 
Sidebanders?  What?


Heh, maybe a bit of all three Brian, plus the lack of on air time?

Cabin Fever could be seen as a cause as easily as all the political
crap on the TV, radio, online, and so on. Sidebanders, wellthis
gets back to the 'bad apples in every walk of life' comment, so maybe
less likely.

The original point (how we choose to represent amateur radio,
basically) is a good one. It warrants some scrutiny if we wish to
showcase amateur radio in general, and AM specifically to upcoming
generations.

Pointing out the obvious should be simple enough without resorting to
doing so in an elitist or antagonistic way. In the end, people are
free to live their lives as they choose, regardless of how ridiculous
or repulsive we might find it.

I prefer to blame the free choice folks make to live their lives
online instead of getting on the air to actually operate, promote, and
enjoy amateur radio. A recent discussion on 80 meters highlighted how
so many who have all the answers both here and on AMfone
mysteriously never seem to be heard on the air. IMO, that's where the
problem lies: the disconnect between talking about it and actually
doing it.

But then again, you know what they say about opinions  (o:

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Re: [AMRadio] Recent threads

2008-01-22 Thread Todd, KA1KAQ
On Jan 22, 2008 1:40 PM, Peter Markavage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You should never assume that because you don't hear them on the air,
 that people here and on AMfone aren't on the air.

I never assume anything, Pete. You of all people should know that, and
should know why. (o:

As well as 80 meters, I keep receivers listening on 40, 160, and other
bands when conditions permit. Most weekends the Clegg stations are
monitoring 2  6 also, to no avail. My statements are based on what
stations I can hear on a net night or corntest weekend as well as
calls seen online, who don't seem to appear otherwise.

There's a lot more to ham radio then just working 80 meter AM!

I'd go even further Pete, and say that there's even more to promoting
and preserving amateur radio than simply enjoying it, but you gotta
start somewhere. Getting people on the air more and online less (at
least with respect to ham radio) would, in my opinion, be a step in
the right direction.

Fact of the matter is, plenty of folks piss and moan, fewer actually
'do'. The internet just makes it that much easier.  Voting is a
perfect example.


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[AMRadio] 75A-2 project

2008-01-22 Thread sbjohnston


The project to restore my old Collins 75A--2 receiver has gone very 
well.  After replacing the paper/wax caps, the filter caps, checking 
and replacing the weak tubes, cleaning the sockets and controls, and 
replacing quite a few failed (due to corrosion) front end trimmer 
capacitors, and a by-the-book alignment, the unit meets or exceeds 
original specs.


The widest bandwidth is 4 kHz (crystal filter out, just the tuned 
circuits in the IF stages) and I would like to add the capability for a 
wider choice for Hi-Fi AM reception.  Anyone know of any articles on 
such a modification?  Maybe in the context of updating the 75A-2 or 3 
to mechanical filters?  Or have any of your own ideas?


I'm thinking perhaps I could replace the back-to-back IF transformers 
with a 10 kHz BW 455 kHz ceramic filter I have here, but I'm not sure 
about the issues of impedance matching into and out of the filter, 
which was designed for low-Z solid-state circuits I'm sure.  Or maybe I 
could increase the values of the small caps coupling the top of the 
primaries to the top of the secondaries.  But that would be hard to 
switch in/out.


A block diagram of the 75A-2 can be seen at

http://www.wd8das.net/Collins/75A-2blockDia.pdf

and a schematic is posted at

http://www.wd8das.net/Collins/75A-2schematic.pdf


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Re: [AMRadio] Recent insulting threads

2008-01-22 Thread Joe Crawford
That was Fred Huntley, W6RNC. He at one time sought to have American hams 
sign off with the national anthem.

   Joe W4AAB
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I remember back in the 60's, there was an old guy in California that raged 
every day about side banders what a bunch of commies they were. He was a 
big pain in the patoot.
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On Jan 20, 2008 12:53 PM, A.R.S. - WA5AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What the hell is wrong here people?  Is it the elections?  Winter? 
Sidebanders?  What?


Heh, maybe a bit of all three Brian, plus the lack of on air time?

Cabin Fever could be seen as a cause as easily as all the political
crap on the TV, radio, online, and so on. Sidebanders, wellthis
gets back to the 'bad apples in every walk of life' comment, so maybe
less likely.

The original point (how we choose to represent amateur radio,
basically) is a good one. It warrants some scrutiny if we wish to
showcase amateur radio in general, and AM specifically to upcoming
generations.

Pointing out the obvious should be simple enough without resorting to
doing so in an elitist or antagonistic way. In the end, people are
free to live their lives as they choose, regardless of how ridiculous
or repulsive we might find it.

I prefer to blame the free choice folks make to live their lives
online instead of getting on the air to actually operate, promote, and
enjoy amateur radio. A recent discussion on 80 meters highlighted how
so many who have all the answers both here and on AMfone
mysteriously never seem to be heard on the air. IMO, that's where the
problem lies: the disconnect between talking about it and actually
doing it.

But then again, you know what they say about opinions  (o:

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Re: [AMRadio] Recent insulting threads

2008-01-22 Thread Mike Sawyer

Wasn't he the guy that wrote the article in ER about the 'Kelvinator 
Kilowatt'??
Mod-U-Lator,
Mike(y)
W3SLK


That was Fred Huntley, W6RNC. He at one time sought to have American hams
sign off with the national anthem.
Joe W4AAB

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[AMRadio] Re: GB 75A-2 project

2008-01-22 Thread sbjohnston
Good idea on the swamping resistors...  I did confirm that mine did not 
have the values for narrow bandwidth.  Another list member pointed out 
early and late-model 75A-2s had different bandwidth performance (early 
favoring AM), so perhaps different values were used.



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To widen out the bandwidth you can put additional
fairly low value resistors across the i.f. cans.  If
you look in the manual you will see a note to remove
the swamping resistors to narrow the bandwidth.
Therefore, adding resistors in parallel with the
existing resistors should broaden the bandwidth.

Glen, K9STH


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The widest bandwidth is 4 kHz (crystal filter out,
just the tuned circuits in the IF stages) and I would
like to add the capability for a wider choice for
Hi-Fi AM reception.  Anyone know of any articles on
such a modification?  Maybe in the context of
updating the 75A-2 or 3 to mechanical filters?  Or
have any of your own ideas?









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[AMRadio] Re: GB 75A-2 project

2008-01-22 Thread sbjohnston
I did try this on the bench but the loss in gain seemed pretty severe 
for the modest bandwidth improvement I could get.  Maybe with a more 
methodical approach I could make it work.


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It might be possible to stagger tune the IF stages to increase
bandwidth.  Use of a sweep generator (or a manually swept signal
generator) will let you know how you are doing when trying this.  As a
general rule, you can trade gain and selectivity for increased
bandwidth.  You might be able to get as much as a doubling of the IF
bandwidth by this method.



I am not familiar with the 75A-2, but if it includes more than one IF
transformer between the IF amplifier stages, it would be a excellent
candidate for this modification.  I have a 51J-3, but the two might not
use the same design inside the IF section.  With luck, the 75A-2's IF
system might have some excess gain that you could sacrifice to get more
bandwidth.  Might be worth a try, at least.


The advantage here is that this is a non-intrusive modification - in
other words, easily reversible, requiring no component changes, extra
parts, etc.


Lacking a sweep or signal generator, you could experimentally try
turning the IF transformer slugs or capacitors a bit each way (keep
track of the original positions!!) to see if it gives you what you
want.  If the trimmer capacitors or slugs are the  multi-turn type, 
then
they can probably be detuned a full turn or more without losing too 
much

gain.  Try small steps, such as a 1/4 or 1/2 turn at first.   Half-turn
trimmer caps are more difficult, and you will probably need to use a
series of pencil marks on the can to try and get fractional turn
indicators.



There are fancier ways to do this, such as by using double tuned
circuits and/or  over-coupling, but then you are into the realm of 
parts

changes and not so easy to reverse modifications.


YMMV



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It might be possible to stagger tune the IF stages to increase
bandwidth.  Use of a sweep generator (or a manually swept signal
generator) will let you know how you are doing when trying this.  As a
general rule, you can trade gain and selectivity for increased
bandwidth.  You might be able to get as much as a doubling of the IF
bandwidth by this method.



I am not familiar with the 75A-2, but if it includes more than one IF
transformer between the IF amplifier stages, it would be a excellent
candidate for this modification.  I have a 51J-3, but the two might not
use the same design inside the IF section.  With luck, the 75A-2's IF
system might have some excess gain that you could sacrifice to get more
bandwidth.  Might be worth a try, at least.


The advantage here is that this is a non-intrusive modification - in
other words, easily reversible, requiring no component changes, extra
parts, etc.


Lacking a sweep or signal generator, you could experimentally try
turning the IF transformer slugs or capacitors a bit each way (keep
track of the original positions!!) to see if it gives you what you
want.  If the trimmer capacitors or slugs are the  multi-turn type, 
then
they can probably be detuned a full turn or more without losing too 
much

gain.  Try small steps, such as a 1/4 or 1/2 turn at first.   Half-turn
trimmer caps are more difficult, and you will probably need to use a
series of pencil marks on the can to try and get fractional turn
indicators.



There are fancier ways to do this, such as by using double tuned
circuits and/or  over-coupling, but then you are into the realm of 
parts

changes and not so easy to reverse modifications.


YMMV



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