Re: [AMRadio] {ADMIN NOTICE TO SELLERS AND BUYERS ON THIS LIST}
I am purposely sending this to the list so others see how I feel about the situation. I am one of the sellers that use this reflector. About once a month I post an ad for tubes or parts or equipment. I try to comply with the rules but being human and old, I forget because this reflector is different from the others I subscribe to. The other reflectors go only to the person posting the message when you hit reply . You have to hit reply all to post it to the reflector. Only this reflector does it go to the list when you hit reply. It is a nuisance and pain in the a-- to have to cut and paste when a simple hit of reply should accomplish what you want. I will be happy to unsubscribe if you so indicate. There are a lot more reflectors to sell on, not to mention Ebay. Thank you. 73, Ed Richards K6UUZ On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:24:06 -0600 A.R.S. - WA5AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gentlemen, I am beating a dead horse all over again. In all likelihood, we will decide NOT to allow selling ANYTHING on this list due to the fact that those who sell their goods here, don't pay attention to moderator and admin warnings (see just a few links to this in the archives below) about stating very clearly in their for sale ads that they need to inform any potential buyers to reply directly to them. Jim/W5JO, one of our moderators has just, in very recent times, like yesterday, tried to express this to the list. The replies to these for sale ads are just as aggravating When a member replies to one of these ads, they almost always quote the entire ad of the original poster to say nothing but something like I'll take the so and so book. We have 500 +/- members on this email list, and each and every email posted, or replied to, is sent to the entire member list. That means that when you say, I'll take that to the seller, it goes to the whole 500+ members. Well, I've tried to explain this before, and now it's come time to decide if we will allow for sale ads on this list from this point forward. You sellers out there need to express the need NOW for people to always reply back to you ONLY, or forever stop selling on this list. The debate is on, and I am real game for it. Just a few examples in the last few weeks or so http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/msg20468.html http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/msg20427.html http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/msg19794.html -- Money is only temporary, radios are forever - Jim Little aka the old dawg/K5BAI __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] {ADMIN NOTICE TO SELLERS AND BUYERS ON THIS LIST}
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Edward B Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will be happy to unsubscribe if you so indicate. There are a lot more reflectors to sell on, not to mention Ebay. Thank you. 73, Ed Richards K6UUZ That seems a bit extreme, Ed. Your comments are accurate, since most others lists do let the 'reply' key go to the sender only, reply all to...well...'all'. Many of the folks here have gotten used to the current set up, but it will still happen over time as new folks come to the list used to the more standard way. I've made the mistake myself a number of times, generally in response to a post from a friend or someone I haven't seen in a while. Always feel like a fool once it dawns on me (usually someone commenting on a post I thought I sent privately). Patience is the key, and practice makes perfect. Or, at least that's the theory. I'm living proof to the contrary. (o: ~ Todd, KA1KAQ __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] {ADMIN NOTICE TO SELLERS AND BUYERS ON THIS LIST}
Well, not a good day for me, I guess Some of you should remember when we DID change the config of the list where a simple reply (not reply all) would go to the sender and NOT the list. Everyone complained for about a week or more about that, so I put it back the way it was. That was about 2 years or more ago. What I can do folks??? I make it one way and people complain, I make it another way, and I still get it. How hard is it for someone to simply embed their email address in their for sale ads so someone can just click on it to buy and item ??? My email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED], and that took me less than 5 seconds to type in this posting.. Go figure... That's all we/I ask.. I do the best I can with ALL of this. I get complaints in personal email about all the excessive quoting in replies, the buyers saying I'll take this or that, and a lot of other crap. I don't get paid for any of this, and I try to appease all the best I can. I guess the question now is who is it I need to appease. 10 years with this has maybe taken my toll, so if any of you think or want to deal with what I do on a nearly daily basis, let me know. 73 Brian / wa5am __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] {ADMIN NOTICE TO SELLERS AND BUYERS ON THIS LIST}
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:59 AM, A.R.S. - WA5AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must ask this question; why is it so hard to type your DIRECT email address in your ads?? All someone has to do then is click on it! I think it's mainly habit, Brian. If you've just cleared out a bunch of email from other lists or groups and then respond to something here, it's an easy mistake to make. I still screw up now and then, but have gotten better at it over the years. The approach here is to force a reply to the entire list assuming that everyone should see it, and with that comes the inevitable fact that it's gonna force a number of replies here that you don't want to see or even have no relevance. Still, it has to be pretty frustrating to have just put out recent announcements about this (along with regular reminders) only to have it happen again, and again. It's been this way as long as I can remember, back into the 90s. We have 'quiet' spells, then it seems like a torrent of replies to the list that were meant to be private. I'm wondering how many are new or infrequent posters? If I lived closer Brian, I'd come over for a visit to do the math with you, equipped with appropriate arithmetic-enhancing beverage. We probably wouldn't figure it out, but I bet we'd get a good laugh out of it all. ~ Todd, KA1KAQ (o; __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] {ADMIN NOTICE TO SELLERS AND BUYERS ON THIS LIST}
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:24 AM, A.R.S. - WA5AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The replies to these for sale ads are just as aggravating Jim and Jim. I agree COMPLETELY with you but it is NOT the fault of the sellers as is clearly evident by the recent incident where REPLY DIRECT was clearly mentioned in the subject and body of the message. I think a big part of this problem is the fact that the reply-to header, configured by the reflector settings, is set to reply to the reflector and not the individual. I am willing to bet that a good percentage of the members aren't all that savy when it comes to their email client and, by hitting reply, think they are responding directly to the person who wrote the email. AMradio is one of the few relfectors I belong to where the reply-to header is setup like this. Just my two cents and I do feel your pain but I see both sides of the issue here. I do NOT want to see selling on this reflector to go away. -- JT Croteau, N1ESE - Manchester, NH (FN42gx) Contest Manager, TARA Skirmish __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
RE: [AMRadio] {ADMIN NOTICE TO SELLERS AND BUYERS ON THIS LIST}
Brian, Personally, I think you're doing a hell of a good job. To have organization and any degree of sanity you must have rules and they must be followed. You can't please everyone and I think you have found a happy median that is not too difficult to follow. Of course, there will always be the occasional slip, I've sure made my share. I say, keep up the good work and we should all try a little harder to accommodate the rules of the reflector. Rick/K5IAR __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
[AMRadio] {ADMIN NOTICE TO SELLERS AND BUYERS ON THIS LIST}
Gentlemen, I am beating a dead horse all over again. In all likelihood, we will decide NOT to allow selling ANYTHING on this list due to the fact that those who sell their goods here, don't pay attention to moderator and admin warnings (see just a few links to this in the archives below) about stating very clearly in their for sale ads that they need to inform any potential buyers to reply directly to them. Jim/W5JO, one of our moderators has just, in very recent times, like yesterday, tried to express this to the list. The replies to these for sale ads are just as aggravating When a member replies to one of these ads, they almost always quote the entire ad of the original poster to say nothing but something like I'll take the so and so book. We have 500 +/- members on this email list, and each and every email posted, or replied to, is sent to the entire member list. That means that when you say, I'll take that to the seller, it goes to the whole 500+ members. Well, I've tried to explain this before, and now it's come time to decide if we will allow for sale ads on this list from this point forward. You sellers out there need to express the need NOW for people to always reply back to you ONLY, or forever stop selling on this list. The debate is on, and I am real game for it. Just a few examples in the last few weeks or so http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/msg20468.html http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/msg20427.html http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/msg19794.html -- Money is only temporary, radios are forever - Jim Little aka the old dawg/K5BAI __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] {ADMIN NOTICE TO SELLERS AND BUYERS ON THIS LIST}
Brian, I'm afraid I have to agree with Ed. The Boatanchor list, carried by the QTH.NET servers, responds entirely different that THIS list on QTH.NET does. I get JUST the list whether I click on Reply - OR - Reply All. Why is THIS list different? Bob - N0DGN A.R.S. - WA5AM wrote: Gentlemen, I am beating a dead horse all over again. In all likelihood, we will decide NOT to allow selling ANYTHING on this list due to the fact that those who sell their goods here, don't pay attention to moderator and admin warnings (see just a few links to this in the archives below) about stating very clearly in their for sale ads that they need to inform any potential buyers to reply directly to them. Jim/W5JO, one of our moderators has just, in very recent times, like yesterday, tried to express this to the list. The replies to these for sale ads are just as aggravating When a member replies to one of these ads, they almost always quote the entire ad of the original poster to say nothing but something like I'll take the so and so book. We have 500 +/- members on this email list, and each and every email posted, or replied to, is sent to the entire member list. That means that when you say, I'll take that to the seller, it goes to the whole 500+ members. Well, I've tried to explain this before, and now it's come time to decide if we will allow for sale ads on this list from this point forward. You sellers out there need to express the need NOW for people to always reply back to you ONLY, or forever stop selling on this list. The debate is on, and I am real game for it. snip -- Bob Bethman/NØDGN/BC-610/Northern Radio SP-600 Manassas, VA - MultiBand Dipoles __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
RE: [AMRadio] {ADMIN NOTICE TO SELLERS AND BUYERS ON THIS LIST}
I normally don't like to get involved in this kind of thing but will put in
my 2 cents this time. I have to agree that it would be much simpler to have
the reflector set up with the reply to and reply to all to work like
most all other reflectors are set up. That, in my opinion, would solve most
of the problems.
I think this was debated long ago and it was decided that both replies
should go to the reflector so that the list doesn't miss anything. Well
this is what happens. Most people try to do the right thing, but don't
realize at the time what will happen.
I think the warnings about don't reply to ads on the list about equal the
number of violations. So that doesn't save much archive space either.
Concerning extra stuff getting on the list with these replies, It seems to
me that there is much more junk on the list about bashing the ARRL or
something else that seems to go on and on, compared to a few replies to for
sale items. Of course maybe that is what this list is destined for rather
than good AM discussions.
I about wear out the delete key with this junk and have come close to
unsubscribing from the list many times. The for sale replies are small
compared to the rest of the junk posts.
73
Gary K4FMX
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Subject: Re: [AMRadio] {ADMIN NOTICE TO SELLERS AND BUYERS ON THIS LIST}
I am purposely sending this to the list so others see how I feel about
the situation. I am one of the sellers that use this reflector. About
once a month I post an ad for tubes or parts or equipment. I try to
comply with the rules but being human and old, I forget because this
reflector is different from the others I subscribe to. The other
reflectors go only to the person posting the message when you hit reply
. You have to hit reply all to post it to the reflector. Only this
reflector does it go to the list when you hit reply.
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Re: [AMRadio] {ADMIN NOTICE TO SELLERS AND BUYERS ON THIS LIST}
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 11:11 AM, A.R.S. - WA5AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I can do folks??? I make it one way and people complain, I make it another way, and I still get it. Brian, you are doing everything you can do. You can't please everyone when you administer an email reflector and you shouldn't try to. If someone doesn't like how it is setup for the majority, they can leave. This reflector doesn't seem to have near the volume where any of this should be an issue but I do understand your frustration. In my last email, I merely stated what I thought was happening and how it related to the reply-to, I wasn't suggesting you change anything. I used to work as an email administrator for a large cooperation and the vast majority of users have no clue how to use their email client and only want to click a button that says reply. When I've managed email reflectors in the past, this was the same thing. Unfortunately, as an administrator, you can't have it both ways. -- JT Croteau, N1ESE - Manchester, NH (FN42gx) Contest Manager, TARA Skirmish __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] {ADMIN NOTICE TO SELLERS AND BUYERS ON THIS LIST}
Guilty as charged ! Sorry guys, I saw a 51j-4 for $350 within driving distance and hit that reply button. The message went to the list and not the seller. All for naught ! as the radio was already spoken for... My apologies to the group. de KA4JVY Mark Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] {ADMIN NOTICE TO SELLERS AND BUYERS ON THIS LIST}
Brian et al; Perhaps it is only my server but when I try to put my address in the body of the text, it puts it in blue which triggers a change to HTML which the reflector rejected. I am not computer literate and had to send the post to a friend of mine in Israel who deleted the HTML so the reflector would accept it. It turns out that if JUNO sees a color or change of font and some other things, it changes to HTML. I am not smart enough to know what to do. In the future I will spell out the address instead of using the @ symbol if that is OK with the moderator. For instance: zuu6k at juno.com. However, people cannot just click on it as a link. Maybe I just won't post any more ads to this reflector. This will hurt the other members more than me. It will deny them access to my items for sale (like new tubes for 1/2 price) while I can continue to sell on other reflectors. I do want to say that I appreciate the use of the reflector and the work that the moderators do. It is just that people don't like to be threatened, including me. Thank you. 73, Ed Richards K6UUZ. REPLY TO ZUU6K at JUNO.COM. On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:11:33 -0600 A.R.S. - WA5AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, not a good day for me, I guess Some of you should remember when we DID change the config of the list where a simple reply (not reply all) would go to the sender and NOT the list. Everyone complained for about a week or more about that, so I put it back the way it was. That was about 2 years or more ago. What I can do folks??? I make it one way and people complain, I make it another way, and I still get it. How hard is it for someone to simply embed their email address in their for sale ads so someone can just click on it to buy and item ??? My email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED], and that took me less than 5 seconds to type in this posting.. Go figure... That's all we/I ask.. I do the best I can with ALL of this. I get complaints in personal email about all the excessive quoting in replies, the buyers saying I'll take this or that, and a lot of other crap. I don't get paid for any of this, and I try to appease all the best I can. I guess the question now is who is it I need to appease. 10 years with this has maybe taken my toll, so if any of you think or want to deal with what I do on a nearly daily basis, let me know. 73 Brian / wa5am __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] {ADMIN NOTICE TO SELLERS AND BUYERS ON THIS LIST}
Ed et al: Correction to your post below. When you're using Juno, and add an e-mail address to your text, [EMAIL PROTECTED] as an example (my e-mail is showing up in blue), it does not fail going though this reflector. I would suggest you check to see what version of Juno you are running. I've never had the problem that you refer to and I've been embedding my e-mail address and web site info through these reflectors for years. Note: I've purposely posted this to the entire list you others who may be using Juno and have the same fears. Pete, wa2cwa http://www.manualman.com On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:45:06 -0800 Edward B Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian et al; Perhaps it is only my server but when I try to put my address in the body of the text, it puts it in blue which triggers a change to HTML which the reflector rejected. I am not computer literate and had to send the post to a friend of mine in Israel who deleted the HTML so the reflector would accept it. It turns out that if JUNO sees a color or change of font and some other things, it changes to HTML. I am not smart enough to know what to do. In the future I will spell out the address instead of using the @ symbol if that is OK with the moderator. For instance: zuu6k at juno.com. However, people cannot just click on it as a link. Maybe I just won't post any more ads to this reflector. This will hurt the other members more than me. It will deny them access to my items for sale (like new tubes for 1/2 price) while I can continue to sell on other reflectors. I do want to say that I appreciate the use of the reflector and the work that the moderators do. It is just that people don't like to be threatened, including me. Thank you. 73, Ed Richards K6UUZ. REPLY TO ZUU6K at JUNO.COM. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] {ADMIN NOTICE TO SELLERS AND BUYERS ON THIS LIST}
Pete et al; Thanks. My JUNO says that the use of color will make it switch to HTML. The reflector rejected it with a note that the message must be in plain text. Which of these is wrong? Does your JUNO switch to HTML with the color address? Does the reflector accept your post in HTML? Please help me here. Thanks. Ed On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 13:16:58 -0500 Peter Markavage [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ed et al: Correction to your post below. When you're using Juno, and add an e-mail address to your text, [EMAIL PROTECTED] as an example (my e-mail is showing up in blue), it does not fail going though this reflector. I would suggest you check to see what version of Juno you are running. I've never had the problem that you refer to and I've been embedding my e-mail address and web site info through these reflectors for years. Note: I've purposely posted this to the entire list you others who may be using Juno and have the same fears. Pete, wa2cwa http://www.manualman.com On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:45:06 -0800 Edward B Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian et al; Perhaps it is only my server but when I try to put my address in the body of the text, it puts it in blue which triggers a change to HTML which the reflector rejected. I am not computer literate and had to send the post to a friend of mine in Israel who deleted the HTML so the reflector would accept it. It turns out that if JUNO sees a color or change of font and some other things, it changes to HTML. I am not smart enough to know what to do. In the future I will spell out the address instead of using the @ symbol if that is OK with the moderator. For instance: zuu6k at juno.com. However, people cannot just click on it as a link. Maybe I just won't post any more ads to this reflector. This will hurt the other members more than me. It will deny them access to my items for sale (like new tubes for 1/2 price) while I can continue to sell on other reflectors. I do want to say that I appreciate the use of the reflector and the work that the moderators do. It is just that people don't like to be threatened, including me. Thank you. 73, Ed Richards K6UUZ. REPLY TO ZUU6K at JUNO.COM. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] {ADMIN NOTICE TO SELLERS AND BUYERS ON THIS LIST}
The choice to make the default reply to the AMRadio mailing list the list itself was the right way to go. It maximizes responses to the whole list, rather than to individuals, and encourages discussion. Other mailing lists which have other goals might chose to do it the other way. I certainly hope we don't modify the list configuration (which impacts everyone) for the sake of a few people who can't operate their email programs. Various systems, and various senders of email, define the Reply-to address in different ways. It is always up to *you* to make sure your message is going to the right place. Double-checking to whom your email is addressed is an important part of using email! Steve WD8DAS [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] {ADMIN NOTICE TO SELLERS AND BUYERS ON THIS LIST}
To much trouble to cut and paste an address or two? Baloney. Inconvinient to glance up at the TO addresses before you hit send? Baloney. If either of those are too much trouble, don't try running vintage gear that you have to manually tune up. It'll be too much trouble. So be it if some people slip and the list get's the response to a for sale post; kaka happens. If the for sale posts are nixed, then the majority will pay for the crimes of the few. Brian, make a decision and stick with it -- you're doing a great job. Expect people to slip up from time to time. Ban those that flaunt the list's rules on a consistent basis. Mark K3MSB __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] {ADMIN NOTICE TO SELLERS AND BUYERS ON THIS LIST}
Mark K3MSB wrote: To much trouble to cut and paste an address or two? Baloney. --- I enjoy seeing what people have for sale. Usally the prices are better than e-bay. I don't complain about you sending an hole e-mail to say the word THANKS. if people were perfect the world would be boring. To make one person happy everybody else needs to suffer. Just my openion, not that of the staff an mangement. K9DVL Dave __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] {ADMIN NOTICE TO SELLERS AND BUYERS ON THIS LIST}
I've never really seen this as a problem. It doesn't bother me in the least that some replies to ads are posted to the whole group. Since that is default reply to method, it's going to happen. I have to sort through about 800 emails a day, so a few more, one way or the other, just doesn't matter. If you're going to make a policy, then put the responsibility on the sellers to post adequate notice about replying off-reflector. If one of them won't follow the rules, then ban them from selling on the reflector. Don't penalize everyone for the transgressions of a few. As far as buyer replies go, just assume that some won't read every word in the ad, some will forget by the time they hit send, and some will just hit send to fast. No big deal. This thread has already generated more traffic than ad responses in recent history. Or maybe I just noticed them more because of the yelling (capital letters) in the subject line. 73, Clay W7CE __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Rick wrote: Brian, Personally, I think you're doing a hell of a good job. To have organization and any degree of sanity you must have rules and they must be followed. You can't please everyone and I think you have found a happy median that is not too difficult to follow. Of course, there will always be the occasional slip, I've sure made my share. I say, keep up the good work and we should all try a little harder to accommodate the rules of the reflector. If I can interject my 2 millicents in here... Those rules that apply to this reflector, show as links in every message. Unfortunately, far too often, those said message footers are reproduced [multiple times] in non-trimmed and complete message quoting replies. Links to those rules are great, but I get the feeling that a lot of people don't click on them, because 'they' (mostly readers, and not posters) because they would rather get to the 'meat' they came to the site for. With that in mind, posting said rules here, -on-the-list-, probably once a month, would go a long way to dispelling any questions and/or translations of said rules. -- 73 = Best Regards, -Geoff/W5OMR (home again) __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
