[AMRadio] AM Windows!
Just a comment about where to operate. By sticking to the established AM windows you leave more opertunity to those of us only holding General class tickets. Moving your operations down to the new territory recently opened up by the band realignment limits your activity to Extra class and Advanced class ticket holders. IMHO that reduces the possibility of creating more AM activity. But if you want ANOTHER PRIVATE CLUB, then feel free to move where ever you want. Bob Macklin K5MYJ Near Seattle, Wa Real Radios Glow In The Dark __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] AM Windows!
Bob Macklin wrote: Just a comment about where to operate. By sticking to the established AM windows you leave more opertunity to those of us only holding General class tickets. Moving your operations down to the new territory recently opened up by the band realignment limits your activity to Extra class and Advanced class ticket holders. IMHO that reduces the possibility of creating more AM activity. But if you want ANOTHER PRIVATE CLUB, then feel free to move where ever you want. The point is, Bob, is that there -are- no Am Windows set forth somewhere in any law, or rule. The only thing that the ARRL recognizes 'officially' is that the AM calling frequency on 75m, is 3.885Mc. From there on, *wherever* 'Fone operation is allow, AM is allowed, as well. http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/regulations/news/part97/d-305.html http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/regulations/conop.pdf -- 73 = Best Regards, -Geoff/W5OMR __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] AM Windows!
On 4/4/07, Bob Macklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By sticking to the established AM windows you leave more opertunity to those of us only holding General class tickets. No one has advocated giving up use of any particular frequency, merely expanding our horizons. Those who have operated below 3800 truly appreciate a break from the rat race that 3870-3885 usually become at night. Moving your operations down to the new territory recently opened up by the band realignment limits your activity to Extra class and Advanced class ticket holders. True, but in today's world with the tests being easier than ever and no code involved, there's really nothing to keep folks from upgrading. At least, that's what folks have told me, since I'm only Avdanced Class. IMHO that reduces the possibility of creating more AM activity. Actually, it increases activity dramatically. Most of us who operate below 3800 have worked multiple new AMers trying it out for the first time, or returning after many years away. This isn't seen as often in the old AM window due to the noise and nonsense taking place there, on any mode. But if you want ANOTHER PRIVATE CLUB, then feel free to move where ever you want. I don't see it as a private club, more an excellent alternative. I've met some very nice folks that way. It's not a matter of playing favorites, it's a matter of taking advantage of opprotunities. Locking yourself into a tiny portion of a large band has never seemed like a good idea to me. Even the ARRL only lists 'calling frequencies' for AM. ~ Todd, KA1KAQ __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] AM Windows!
Bob, the General Class can operate down to 3.8. Some activity between 3.8 and 3.880 would be good. The practical answer is to make contact between 3.880 to 3.890 then move either down or up to an open frequency. Jim W5JO Just a comment about where to operate. By sticking to the established AM windows you leave more opertunity to those of us only holding General class tickets. Moving your operations down to the new territory recently opened up by the band realignment limits your activity to Extra class and Advanced class ticket holders. IMHO that reduces the possibility of creating more AM activity. But if you want ANOTHER PRIVATE CLUB, then feel free to move where ever you want. Bob Macklin K5MYJ Near Seattle, Wa __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] AM Windows!
As Jim points out, you don't even have to go to the newly expanded portions of 75. I haven't spent any real significant time around 3885 in quite a long time to make AM contacts. I roll down to between 3820 and 3850, find a clear slot, and call a CQ. Lots of abundant AM contacts for folks who have tunable receivers and VFO's. Even last night, around 9:30 PM EDT, when I tuned the receiver to around 3885, I heard three separate AM QSO's trying to operate between 3875 and 3885 with SSB transmissions adjacent to both sides of the range. Yet, between 3740 and 3775, there was a total absence of any signals that I could hear. I then set the receiver bandwidth to 16 KHz, set the receiver dial to around 3755, and let it sit for about 45 minutes while I puttered around the shack. Only heard 1 weak SSB station come on about 20 minutes later making a direct call to someone and then he disappeared. The band expansion is a golden opportunity for AM groups, that have been plagued for years by adjacent SSB chatter, to move to new locations on the band. I can understand long traditions, being crystal controlled, we been on that frequency for 90 years, my VFO is frozen, etc. but these are not insurmountable obstacles. Pete, wa2cwa On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 10:38:30 -0500 Jim Wilhite [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bob, the General Class can operate down to 3.8. Some activity between 3.8 and 3.880 would be good. The practical answer is to make contact between 3.880 to 3.890 then move either down or up to an open frequency. Jim W5JO __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] AM Windows!
Responding to Petes, wa2cwa comments: I have no problem with people moving into the new area to get away from the other problems.It just exculdes thos of us with General tickets. I would think the thing to do is to use the AM message boards to establish new frequencies to call or monitor. Just so the othe people know where to look. I know my local group (the NW AMers) hang on 3870. I knew about the late afternoon/early evening activity. Yesterday I checked the AM net list on the AM Window website and found the also work on that frequency starting at 9:30PM. So I left the SB-301 sitting on that frequency while I watched the ballgame. Sure enought at 9:30PM AM activity did start. But because of my location relative to theirs, the signals were not strong enough to easily copy. This area id VERY HILLY and they are all over the hill from me. And their ground wave does not seem to be making it here to the base of the valley. A friend up the hill about 500' does much better with them. Bob Macklin K5MYJ Near Seattle, Wa Real Radios Glow In The Dark __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] AM Windows!
Kudos Pete... I consider any phone frequency that is allowed by my license as an AM window when I am using the AM mode... anybody that has worked for their license class should use said license to it's fullest degree within the rules and regs... Being held to any frequency because of its mode is so much like riding at the back of the bus... I would hope we as a people are over such things... just my opinion... if it isn't 'politically correct' well I'm not a politically correct type of guy... have a good day and a better tomorrow! 73 vince ka1iic -.--. On Wed, 4 Apr 2007, Peter Markavage wrote: As Jim points out, you don't even have to go to the newly expanded portions of 75. I haven't spent any real significant time around 3885 in quite a long time to make AM contacts. I roll down to between 3820 and 3850, find a clear slot, and call a CQ. Lots of abundant AM contacts for folks who have tunable receivers and VFO's. Even last night, around 9:30 PM EDT, when I tuned the receiver to around 3885, I heard three separate AM QSO's trying to operate between 3875 and 3885 with SSB transmissions adjacent to both sides of the range. Yet, between 3740 and 3775, there was a total absence of any signals that I could hear. I then set the receiver bandwidth to 16 KHz, set the receiver dial to around 3755, and let it sit for about 45 minutes while I puttered around the shack. Only heard 1 weak SSB station come on about 20 minutes later making a direct call to someone and then he disappeared. The band expansion is a golden opportunity for AM groups, that have been plagued for years by adjacent SSB chatter, to move to new locations on the band. I can understand long traditions, being crystal controlled, we been on that frequency for 90 years, my VFO is frozen, etc. but these are not insurmountable obstacles. Pete, wa2cwa On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 10:38:30 -0500 Jim Wilhite [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bob, the General Class can operate down to 3.8. Some activity between 3.8 and 3.880 would be good. The practical answer is to make contact between 3.880 to 3.890 then move either down or up to an open frequency. Jim W5JO __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] AM Windows!
Jim W5JO comments: Interestingly I pass my Conditional the same year as you did the General. I guess that makes us OFs. That's what they call us. I guess we were lucky to start this hobby during the best solar cycle on record. I did not know it was that good at the time. People here in the States were working people in Austrailia with 5W on 10M! I have no problem with people moving out of the GETTO. But it seems that here on the LEFT COAST that 3780 is vacant most of the time. With that, there is no real reason to move. Being an OF, I have another problem. I need to go to bed about 10PM or take a nap in the afternoon. Another problem is that I sit here at home alone most days with the Rx on listening to static on weekdays. But this weekend I am leving the good Rx on 14,286 ALL DAY! I will leave the next best Rx on 7290 ALL DAY! Bob Macklin K5MYJ Near Seattle, Wa Real Radios Glow In The Dark __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] AM Windows!
vince ka1iic comments: I consider any phone frequency that is allowed by my license as an AM window when I am using the AM mode... anybody that has worked for their license class should use said license to it's fullest degree within the rules and regs... I am not trying to say you should not move. My only problem is that when you move to the Extra segment you exculed some of us. And it is best if you are just waiting for activity, to monitor the publised(established) calling frequency. If you have other established working frequencies they need to be posted somewhere so people know where to look. Just remember that that moving won't eliminate the problem with the SSB JERKS. There are some that if they find you they will attempt to push you off the band. And I just don't see a solution to that problem other than operating CW on top of them i return. But that's not the way to act. Bob Macklin K5MYJ Near Seattle, Wa Real Radios Glow In The Dark __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] AM Windows!
I said: I have no problem with people moving out of the GETTO. But it seems that here on the LEFT COAST that 3780 is vacant most of the time. With that, there is no real reason to move. I meant 3870! that's another problem with being an OF! OTOH, 3780 probably is a clear frequency most of the time! A week or so ago W1AW was making in here on both 80M and 40M every eveing. But not this week. And when it was I was not bright enough to try the know AM frequencies. Bob Macklin K5MYJ Near Seattle, Wa Real Radios Glow In The Dark __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] AM Windows!
On 4/4/07, Jim Wilhite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob what I am urging is that some of us move from those calling frequencies to other areas where you can operate. There are a couple of guys here that I like to talk to and one is a general. We meet on 3.890 and move to an open frequency near 3.825 - 35 several times a week. A-HA! So *that's* where you've been hiding! The noise has been so bad up this way in the 3870-3885 swath that I figured I just wasn't hearing you guys anymore. Brian was down on 3725 or 30 one night when I came on late, it was the strongest and clearest I'd heard him. The old 'window' is pretty much unusable here most nights due to the noise, jamming, band changes and so on. Weekend mornings and afternoons are great, but once it starts getting dark I'll definitely listen in the area you mentioned, and give a yell once the transmitter is fixed. ~ Todd, KA1KAQ __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] AM Windows!
Todd comments: A-HA! So *that's* where you've been hiding! The noise has been so bad up this way in the 3870-3885 swath that I figured I just wasn't hearing you guys anymore. Brian was down on 3725 or 30 one night when I came on late, it was the strongest and clearest I'd heard him. The old 'window' is pretty much unusable here most nights due to the noise, jamming, band changes and so on. Weekend mornings and afternoons are great, but once it starts getting dark I think the point has been made. I assume the AM community is a friendly group. It would be nice to know where and when to look for the activity. For 40M the area is not very larg. byt for 80/75 thiereis a lot of space to cover. Bob Macklin K5MYJ Near Seattle, Wa Real Radios Glow In The Dark __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] AM Windows!
Since the band expansion some people have been moving about some. Not nearly as much as I would like to see, but there are places where AM turns up. One of the disadvantages you have in trying to work back into he Central US is the time zone. You will overlap us from about 8 your time until about 9. Dial around and listen for us. However with the Spring and Summer storms we have hear, you might just find us on SSB, depending on the band propagation and noise level. We only do the SSB thing when conditions are terrible. I just looked at radar near Galveston, TX and there is a bunch of T storm activity off the South Texas coast. That will bring havoc to us tonight. If it were not for that, the rest of the Central, Western and Southern US looks good. So we would probably be on. Whatever you do, plan on next Fall and Winter. But in the meantime listen for the 3.870 group along the West Coast. Anyone would be happy to make contact with someone in your territory. I haven't worked Washington on AM since my early days. 73 Jim W5JO Todd comments: A-HA! So *that's* where you've been hiding! The noise has been so bad up this way in the 3870-3885 swath that I figured I just wasn't hearing you guys anymore. Brian was down on 3725 or 30 one night when I came on late, it was the strongest and clearest I'd heard him. The old 'window' is pretty much unusable here most nights due to the noise, jamming, band changes and so on. Weekend mornings and afternoons are great, but once it starts getting dark I think the point has been made. I assume the AM community is a friendly group. It would be nice to know where and when to look for the activity. For 40M the area is not very larg. byt for 80/75 thiereis a lot of space to cover. Bob Macklin K5MYJ Near Seattle, Wa __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
