Re: [AMRadio] Illegal 27 & 28 MHz amplifier sales

2002-08-24 Thread John
Yaesu  has always catered to CBers, it started with the 101 series of radios
.The FT-757GX was also a super popular radio for CB operation in the early
80's. All you to had to do is open the cover & flip a little black switch on
the dial board and you had full general coverage transmit. When I was on CB
in the 80's everyone I knew had a FT-757GX on CB I even have a factory
mod paper to tell you exactly how to put the FT-102 on CB with all factory
yaesu part numbers to make the conversion easy .you can't blame them
..CB was a big untapped market ..Plus it was a good thing because the ham
rigs were super clean & cause no interference,  unlike modified CB radios...

73 john



Re: [AMRadio] Illegal 27 & 28 MHz amplifier sales

2002-08-24 Thread Donald Chester




From: "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Why bother with this . FCC don't care , I don't care, Ebay don't care
 these amps have been for sale for the last 20 years & will always be
.find something else's to do


I would tend to agree, if they kept them clean and on 11m.  Problem is, they 
sometimes splatter all way thru 10m., and many are operating illegally 
inside our band.  Also, the TVI and RFI problems caused by these dirty amps 
are very often blamed on any nearby hams that happen to live in the area.


As long as their signals stay within the confines of "11m" I don't care if 
they let it all hang out.  The FCC created the problem over the objections 
of the amateur community; let them worry about that, instead of something so 
micky-mouse as peak envelope power.  No point in losing sleep over something 
we can do nothing about.


It will do just about as much good as complaining about the hot, nasty, 
humid weather we have in this part of the country in the summer.


Don K4KYV

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RE: [AMRadio] Illegal 27 & 28 MHz amplifier sales

2002-08-24 Thread Donald Chester




From: "Ed Sieb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


...when Yaesu released the FT-101, with 11m
built-in, the whole 11M band finally went to hell in a hand-basket, and 
took

500 kHz either side with it.


Back in the early 1980's, I ran the service dep't of a 2-way radio/ham radio 
outfit, and we did a lot of amateur radio service work from all over North 
America, including warranty work for Yaesu.


Well over 80% of the FT-101 series we got in for repair (excluding the 
FT-101ZD, which is a totally different radio), whether owned by licensed 
hams or not, had 11m xtals installed, with transmit enabled. The earlier 
versions came with the xtals installed as a standard feature, with "11" 
indicated on the band select control.  On later models, they changed "11" to 
"aux" and the 11m. band xtals became optional and had to be ordered extra.  
The rig came receive-only for this band, but I recall it was a matter of 
either cutting or installing one wire to make it fully transceive.  
According to the Yaesu manual, the orginal 11m. "receive" capability was 
offered as a feature so hams could listen for CB activity to tell when 10m. 
might be open (yes, of course!)  Later manuals said the "aux" feature was 
supposed to make it possible to receive anywhere you chose outside the ham 
bands (one 500 kHz segment only), but it only worked in the vicinity of 27 
hHz.  It would have taken a major modification to make it work elsewhere on 
HF.


That was just after the CB boom had peaked out, and the vast majority of new 
hams had got their start in radio via CB.  When I became licensed in 1959, 
most hams including myself got their start via shortwave listening.


When the CB boom finally crashed to rock-bottom around 1982 or 83,  the 
outfit I worked for went out of business, and so did many other amateur 
equipment suppliers, except for the big ones like AES and HRO. VHF 2-way 
alone wasn't enough to sustain the company where I worked, especially after 
the FCC deregulated the Land Mobile service and the commercial 
radiotelephone licence (by then degraded to "General Radiotelephone") was no 
longer required to legally repair and install commecrial and government 
2-way radio systems.  Every small town police and fire department in the 
country decided they could save money by relying on a local CB'er who 
happened to work in their department to keep their radio system going.


Does that tell you anything about the amateur community that exists today, 
and the fact that the ham bands in the US were rapidly going down the toilet 
when Riley came on the scene?


Don k4KYV

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RE: [AMRadio] Illegal 27 & 28 MHz amplifier sales

2002-08-23 Thread Ed Sieb
It isn't "20 years". This stuff's been going on actively, and organized
since at least 1973, when Siltronix, Browning, and others started marketing
"VFO-sliders" for CB's. Then when Yaesu released the FT-101, with 11m
built-in, the whole 11M band finally went to hell in a hand-basket, and took
500 kHz either side with it.  The Siltronix 1011A 100W SSB transceiver is
today a much sought-after collector's item. Covered 26.5 through 29 Mhz. Was
a CB version of a Swan 270.

I recall seeing "Boosters", "Footwarmers", "Boomers"  and similar amps back
in the '60's.

Ed - VA3ES

>
>
> Twenty years of :Law Breaking" still does not make it RIGHT !
>



Re: [AMRadio] Illegal 27 & 28 MHz amplifier sales

2002-08-23 Thread K0PJG
Very FB  Brian,

We need more folks writing the FCC on these matters.

Twenty years of :Law Breaking" still does not make it RIGHT ! About time we
all stop saying sheesh ! Who Cares!  es DO something.

Tom - K0PJG


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From: "Brian Carling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 11:39 AM
Subject: [AMRadio] Illegal 27 & 28 MHz amplifier sales


> Dear Riley Hollingsworth & FCC,
>
> Please look into these illegal companies and their activities.
>
> Two issues:
>
> 1 - CBR Electronics Inc.
>
> http://www.cbrelectronics.com/keydowns.html";>Click here:
> keydowns.page
>
> 2 - E-BAY INC.
>
> Also eBay is running a lot of ilegal advertisements now!
>
>  Take a look at these items currently selling now as we speak on
> ebay.1375120931 ,   1374519437  ,1374954044,1374119655 .
> Also see:
> 1374401241, 1374437180, 1374749715, 1374941097
>
> These are ALL ILLEGAL CB amps being brazenly allowed by eBay.
> They are not legal to be sold for amateur use either, since
> they cover the 27-28 MHz bands which is against federal law.
>
> Others are telling me that eBay is now unwilling to take action
> to remove such ads they are running for illegal amplifiers.
>
> Fraudulent sales of illegal equipment needs to be stopped!
>
>
>
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Re: [AMRadio] Illegal 27 & 28 MHz amplifier sales

2002-08-23 Thread John
Why bother with this . FCC don't care , I don't care, Ebay don't care
 these amps have been for sale for the last 20 years & will always be
.find something else's to do

John



[AMRadio] Illegal 27 & 28 MHz amplifier sales

2002-08-23 Thread Brian Carling
Dear Riley Hollingsworth & FCC,

Please look into these illegal companies and their activities.

Two issues:

1 - CBR Electronics Inc.

http://www.cbrelectronics.com/keydowns.html";>Click here:
keydowns.page

2 - E-BAY INC.

Also eBay is running a lot of ilegal advertisements now!

 Take a look at these items currently selling now as we speak on
ebay.1375120931 ,   1374519437  ,1374954044,1374119655 . 
Also see:
1374401241, 1374437180, 1374749715, 1374941097

These are ALL ILLEGAL CB amps being brazenly allowed by eBay.
They are not legal to be sold for amateur use either, since 
they cover the 27-28 MHz bands which is against federal law.

Others are telling me that eBay is now unwilling to take action 
to remove such ads they are running for illegal amplifiers.

Fraudulent sales of illegal equipment needs to be stopped!