Re: [AMRadio] RE: Recent comments on AM

2006-01-16 Thread Mark K3MSB
Why would the ARRL NOT what to provide quantatative information about
this ?  Could it be :

a) over 50% of the respondents were against the ARRL position?
b) so few responded that a) didn't matter?

It seems to me if the ARRL had a heavy response rate in terms of total
membership, and the majority was in favor of the ARRL position,  the
ARRL would certainly want to use that information as a major selling
point of it's proposal.

Mark K3MSB


[AMRadio] RE: Recent comments on AM

2006-01-14 Thread peter markavage
On line Dictionary: A survey of the public or of a sample of public
opinion to acquire information.
Webster's (One of several meanings): A questioning or canvassing of
persons, usually selected at random or by quota from various groups, for
obtaining information or opinions, especially to be analyzed.

I will agree, so as not to confuse the masses, that requested comments
from members and nonmembers on the proposal probably would have been a
better choice of words than to use something like they polled their
members for comments.

Pete, wa2cwa

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:53:43 -0500 Bill Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
   I think we are confusing conducting a poll with soliciting 
 comments. A
 poll implies that there will be a numerical result that will be 
 revealed
 at the end of the poll which shows how many of the population 
 polled were
 for or against the issue in question.
 
   The ARRL did NOT conduct a poll.
 
   The ARRL did solicit comments, as stated else where. However there 
 was no
 feedback as to how many folks commented or what the comments 
 involved or any
 indication that the ARRL even read or considered what was sent to 
 them.
 
   My Director solicited comments. In one of his letters he stated 
 the tally
 of comments he had received for and against the proposal. He 
 apparently
 did not count mine and two other comments that I know were sent and 
 were
 against. It seems we may have been in the group that he said did 
 not
 understand the proposal. 
 
  
 
   The bottom line is, whether the ARRL conducted a poll or not is a 
 mute
 issue at this time. Let's make our comments to the FCC on RM-11306 
 so we can
 get rid of this nonsense. If you want to try and hammer the ARRL 
 into shape
 later, fine.
 
   Let's STOP RM-11306 NOW!!
   
 Bill
 
 KA8WTK   


Re: [AMRadio] RE: Recent comments on AM

2006-01-14 Thread w2agn

peter markavage wrote:


On line Dictionary: A survey of the public or of a sample of public
opinion to acquire information.
Webster's (One of several meanings): A questioning or canvassing of
persons, usually selected at random or by quota from various groups, for
obtaining information or opinions, especially to be analyzed.

I will agree, so as not to confuse the masses, that requested comments
from members and nonmembers on the proposal probably would have been a
better choice of words than to use something like they polled their
members for comments.

Pete, wa2cwa
 

Now this is just a typical ARRL attitude. Note the condescension of the 
phrase so as not to confuse the masses. It would seem to me that 
neither of the  definitions so patronizingly quoted from the dictionary 
are met by requesting comments.


W2AGN (one of the masses who is NOT confused, or misled by ARRL-Speak)


[AMRadio] RE: Recent comments on AM

2006-01-13 Thread Bill Ramsey
  I think we are confusing conducting a poll with soliciting comments. A
poll implies that there will be a numerical result that will be revealed
at the end of the poll which shows how many of the population polled were
for or against the issue in question.

  The ARRL did NOT conduct a poll.

  The ARRL did solicit comments, as stated else where. However there was no
feedback as to how many folks commented or what the comments involved or any
indication that the ARRL even read or considered what was sent to them.

  My Director solicited comments. In one of his letters he stated the tally
of comments he had received for and against the proposal. He apparently
did not count mine and two other comments that I know were sent and were
against. It seems we may have been in the group that he said did not
understand the proposal. 

 

  The bottom line is, whether the ARRL conducted a poll or not is a mute
issue at this time. Let's make our comments to the FCC on RM-11306 so we can
get rid of this nonsense. If you want to try and hammer the ARRL into shape
later, fine.

 

  Let's STOP RM-11306 NOW!!

 

Bill

KA8WTK