Re: [AMRadio] Safe Metering for Blind Operators

2005-01-03 Thread DOXEMF
Hello,
The Johnson Viking II also uses negative return shunts
for both the final and the modulator current takeoff point.

A word of warning tho. If the ground or B minus side of the shunt lifts in this 
type of connection the meter will most likely be pulled up to the B+ voltage 
relative to chassis.
My VK II with it's small loops of Ni Chrome for shunts
did exactly that when whatever treatment that was given the unsolderable 
NiChrome let loose.

I have often seen panel meters offered on E-Bay and at HamFests that had at 
least one adjustable setpoint pointer that activated a contact closure when 
reached.The difficulty would be in finding the right meter resistance for the 
application.

Bill Courtright KB3DKS/1




Re: [AMRadio] Safe Metering for Blind Operators

2005-01-03 Thread Edward B Richards
Hi Mike;

I have a Heathkit DX-100B. The plate meter is across a .1 ohm resistor
from the center tap of the HV transformer to ground. This should serve
your needs. Good luck.

73, Ed Richards K6UUZ


On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 12:43:25 -0600 "Mike Duke, K5XU" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> K4KYV wrote:
> 
> "In my homebrew rigs with triode finals, I place the plate meters 
> between 
> the
> common point for grid leak/bias supply and PA filament, and ground.  
> The
> Gates BC1-T does it the same way, with no HV on the meter."
> 
> 
> I've been reading the discussion of safe metering with great 
> interest, as 
> perhaps explained by my subject line and signature.
> 
> I would love to find a good plate modulated transmitter in the power 
> class 
> of a DX100 or Valiant, in which the plate meter would not have the 
> full 
> plate voltage across its terminals. Is anyone aware of a commercial 
> or 
> surplus transmitter with this design feature?
> 
> I could easily and safely tune such a transmitter by connecting an 
> audible 
> meter-reading device across the meter terminals. I still have the 
> circuit 
> which I used successfully with a DX60, and very cautiously with a 
> Viking 
> Ranger from 1969 - 1974. I learned quickly that the ranger meter is 
> at full 
> plate potential. The good news is that I lived to tell about the 
> experience.
> 
> I also recall reading somewhere of using a voltage divider in order 
> to 
> obtain a safe potential level in the external audible reader. If 
> anyone on 
> this list has ever encountered a transmitter which was modified in 
> this way, 
> I'd like to know more about how it was done, since I'd love to put a 
> Ranger 
> on the air in order to re-create my first station.
> 
> The point can be made that the easiest route is to put a rice box 
> and linear 
> combination on the air. Yes, that would be the easiest thing for 
> anyone, 
> but, not nearly as much fun!
> 
> 
> Mike Duke, K5XU
> American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[AMRadio] Safe Metering for Blind Operators

2005-01-03 Thread Mike Duke, K5XU
K4KYV wrote:

"In my homebrew rigs with triode finals, I place the plate meters between 
the
common point for grid leak/bias supply and PA filament, and ground.  The
Gates BC1-T does it the same way, with no HV on the meter."


I've been reading the discussion of safe metering with great interest, as 
perhaps explained by my subject line and signature.

I would love to find a good plate modulated transmitter in the power class 
of a DX100 or Valiant, in which the plate meter would not have the full 
plate voltage across its terminals. Is anyone aware of a commercial or 
surplus transmitter with this design feature?

I could easily and safely tune such a transmitter by connecting an audible 
meter-reading device across the meter terminals. I still have the circuit 
which I used successfully with a DX60, and very cautiously with a Viking 
Ranger from 1969 - 1974. I learned quickly that the ranger meter is at full 
plate potential. The good news is that I lived to tell about the experience.

I also recall reading somewhere of using a voltage divider in order to 
obtain a safe potential level in the external audible reader. If anyone on 
this list has ever encountered a transmitter which was modified in this way, 
I'd like to know more about how it was done, since I'd love to put a Ranger 
on the air in order to re-create my first station.

The point can be made that the easiest route is to put a rice box and linear 
combination on the air. Yes, that would be the easiest thing for anyone, 
but, not nearly as much fun!


Mike Duke, K5XU
American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs





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