RE: [AMRadio] another SX-28 question

2003-12-31 Thread Brett Gazdzinski
Many RF gain controls work by a voltage divider setup, a pot
with the wiper going to the cathode of a stage, one terminal going
to ground, the other to a positive voltage source.
This allows the cathode voltage to go to ground (rf gain max),
to a small positive voltage (rf gain minimum).

Other circuits use the AGC setup on multiple stages.
Don't assume the pot is good, or the correct value.
The pinched wire could have ruined the pot, some PO 
could have changed the pot because of the pinched wire, etc.

You need to reference the diagram and check values and connections,
many older receivers were modified for better SSB reception (yuk!).

If a pot went open, or was too high a value, the rf gain will 
be normal when the wiper is grounded, but as soon as its off the
end point, its open...

Many older receivers (not the SX28 I think) did different
things with the gain control in SSB/CW mode, on my G76, the audio
gain control turns into an RF gain control...

On my SX17, the bfo is separate, and does not interact with the
RF gain circuit.
I think the RF gain control is the voltage divider type.
I think there is also an AGC on off switch.

Great sounding receivers, all those that Hallicrafters made
with the nice push pull audio output, puts receivers
that use a 6aq5 or some such to shame, and people don't
know what they are missing, listening to good AM
on the typical receiver, even high end modern stuff.
It sounds better than side band, but it can be as much of a difference
between a good and bad audio amp as between ssb and AM.

The Scott SLRM receiver I have seems to have a real hi fi 
audio amp, with no driver transformer in the audio stages, and even
a position on the selectivity control marked hi fi.
Broad as a barn door!
Push pull 25L6 tubes!

Brett
N2DTS




 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 5:47 PM
 To: amradio@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [AMRadio] another SX-28 question
 
 
 well 24 hours of work and she is coming along nicely. The 
 audio section is 
 fine now. Sound graaat..
 She is not working on the top two bands but we'll cross that 
 bridge later.
 
 the RF gain control was not working at all. I found a pinched 
 wire that was 
 grounded.  This was the wire going to the cathode resistor of 
 V-1. I fixed 
 this, and even put a new pot in there for the RF Gain. It 
 works BUT.. all you 
 have to do is just barely turn it and it blanks out the front 
 end. Could one 
 of the cathode resistors have changed value, canceling out 
 the work of the rf 
 gain control? R-3 to V-1 or R8 to V-2? Or, possibly, C14 on 
 V-1 or C18 on V-2?
 
 looks like they will be tough to get to if that is the case.
 
 your ideas gentleman?
 
 your 
 The AM voice of Shreveport, Louisiana USA
 formerly WN5AIA and WB5AIA
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Re: [AMRadio] another SX-28 question

2003-12-31 Thread Geoff Edmonson
 the RF gain control was not working at all. I found a pinched wire that was
 grounded.  This was the wire going to the cathode resistor of V-1. I fixed
 this, and even put a new pot in there for the RF Gain. It works BUT.. all
 you have to do is just barely turn it and it blanks out the front end.
 Could one of the cathode resistors have changed value, canceling out the
 work of the rf gain control? R-3 to V-1 or R8 to V-2? Or, possibly, C14 on
 V-1 or C18 on V-2?

Just a silly-assed question, Ronnie - mainly because I don't remember...
but is there an AGC control switch on the front of the SX-28?  It should be 
ON.  Without the AGC circuit being active, you could have the same effect - 
any signal would send the front-end to saturation.

Happy New Year!
73 = Best Regards,
-Geoff/W5OMR

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Re: [AMRadio] another SX-28 question

2003-12-31 Thread Geoff Edmonson
I spewed my drink all over the monitor when on Wednesday 31 December 2003 
08:48, w5sum said (and I am -not- making this up!)::

 good morning Jeff

 yes there is an AVC switch and it is on... I think the problem is, that
 this is a non linear pot I dug up... measuring the resistance, it moves
 slowly for just a (little bit), then it JUMPS quickly... I'm going to 
change
 this out first

Sounds like the culprit.

While you're checking on things, make sure you know you're not addressing the 
whole list ;-)

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Re: [AMRadio] another SX-28 question

2003-12-31 Thread ronnie.hull
its an old age thing!!



-- Original Message ---
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Sent: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 08:54:14 -0600
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] another SX-28 question

 I spewed my drink all over the monitor when on Wednesday 31 December 
 2003 
 08:48, w5sum said (and I am -not- making this up!)::
 
  good morning Jeff
 
  yes there is an AVC switch and it is on... I think the problem is, that
  this is a non linear pot I dug up... measuring the resistance, it moves
  slowly for just a (little bit), then it JUMPS quickly... I'm going to 
 change
  this out first
 
 Sounds like the culprit.
 
 While you're checking on things, make sure you know you're not 
 addressing the whole list ;-)
 
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[AMRadio] another SX-28 question

2003-12-30 Thread w5sum
well 24 hours of work and she is coming along nicely. The audio section is 
fine now. Sound graaat..
She is not working on the top two bands but we'll cross that bridge later.

the RF gain control was not working at all. I found a pinched wire that was 
grounded.  This was the wire going to the cathode resistor of V-1. I fixed 
this, and even put a new pot in there for the RF Gain. It works BUT.. all you 
have to do is just barely turn it and it blanks out the front end. Could one 
of the cathode resistors have changed value, canceling out the work of the rf 
gain control? R-3 to V-1 or R8 to V-2? Or, possibly, C14 on V-1 or C18 on V-2?

looks like they will be tough to get to if that is the case.

your ideas gentleman?

your 
The AM voice of Shreveport, Louisiana USA
formerly WN5AIA and WB5AIA
I got my Extra Class the old fashioned way... I earned it!