Re: [AMRadio] Average OP Age
Both Bob and Geoff are correct. we are all getting older. i have 6 transmitters setting in the shop waiting for me to get them going. but work for the past 20 yrs has kept me out of the shop. now at 60.5 yrs i am not working but the past six months has had me catching up on things the xyl wanted done or needed done at home. well that list is now down to 3 items so the work shop got cleaned out so i could get to the benchs last week. now i need to decide what tx's i want to keep and get up an running and which ones i want to pass along to another restorer. like most on this list i took my test in front of the FCC in 62 . took me 3 months after school each day studying. i am a pack rat hi hi also. that helps so i have lots of parts along the two 14ft walls of the shop. yes bob i still have my Heath kit HV probe and my shorting stick two items i would never let go of. Geoff is correct about the tests. they teach nothing this day and time. i taught theory for 15yrs for the local club but fewer and fewer wanted anything but a tech lis. so i gave up as more and more just wanted to memorize the answers to the tests. Maybe the answer is here on the Internet for the new kids? maybe we should start some kind of theory class here a refresher for us old farts and a learning chance for those who might like to build. who knows maybe out there somewhere is a kid that has the bug but just does not know where to start. i know i read every email on this reflector and have found that i had forgotten a lot more then i thought i had. thanks to you guys i have had my mind restarted hi hi.. i know there are a lot of us out there hoarding parts that someone needs to start or finish that project. maybe we should start asking if anyone needs this or that and maybe i want to build this but how do i start anyone have any ideals ?. i for one want to build a tuner for a open wire feed ant. have the caps coils and R F amp meter just need to figure out what type of tuner i need to build. i am going to put together an off center fed dipole for 160/80mts and i want a good tuner for it that will handle my Globe Champion 350A or my Valiants. anyway think you guys for keeping our minds alive and working. God Bless 73 Tony wa4jqs QBE ZUT DE WA4JQS ANTHONY W. (Tony) DePrato WA4JQS EXTRA - HEAVY Since 1962 CQ DX HALL OF FAME # 35 A1-OP FISTS # 10573 SKCC #1227 South Sandwich Island Dxpedition Group CALLS HELD: WA4JQS/ZS1, WA4JQS/KC4, WA4JQS/4K1 ZD8JQS, V31SS, VP8BZL, VP8SSI, 3Y0PI __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Average OP Age
Someone .. please..respond with your age so that I'm not the oldest buzzard here. I need the morale booster..hi 73 to all you youngsters Bob, W4WSZ Age 72 and On the Air since 1951 __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Average OP Age
I am right behind you, Bob. I turned 70 on Sunday and have been licensed continuously since 1953. 73, John, W4AWM ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Average OP Age
Hi Bob, Yeah, I sure do remember the FCC examiners. I took all my exams except the extra at the FCC offices. I'll never forget my first experience with my Novice ticket. I had juat learned the code and really wasn;t solid at 5WPM, but my dad was going to Atlanta on business and I asked if I could go along and take the test. I lived in Asheville, NC at that time and Atlanta was the nearest examining point unless one wanted to go to a quarterly examing point, the closest being Knoxville, TN. I had just missed one there. In any event, I went into the exam room and they started sending code and I started copying. I was doing really well until I made a fatal mistake. I looked up and there, glaring at me through coke bottle thick glasses was the examinar. He was about 5 feet tall and had a moustache and of course those glasses! I froze solid and could not copy another letter. Ill never forget those words he said after he checked my paper. Come back and see me in 30 days! I did and the next time I passed with flying colors, copying all 5 minutes solid without a single miss. This time I didn't look at him until I was finished, but when he checked my copy, he smiled at me! SAweet revenge. 73, John, W4AWM ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Average OP Age
John, How well I remember that gentleman... It was a mister Cline...I had several commercial broadcast inspections from him over the years. There was a little gray haired lady across from the Federal building that would notorize the application for 50 cents.. CUL, Bob - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Average OP Age Hi Bob, Yeah, I sure do remember the FCC examiners. I took all my exams except the extra at the FCC offices. I'll never forget my first experience with my Novice ticket. I had juat learned the code and really wasn;t solid at 5WPM, but my dad was going to Atlanta on business and I asked if I could go along and take the test. I lived in Asheville, NC at that time and Atlanta was the nearest examining point unless one wanted to go to a quarterly examing point, the closest being Knoxville, TN. I had just missed one there. In any event, I went into the exam room and they started sending code and I started copying. I was doing really well until I made a fatal mistake. I looked up and there, glaring at me through coke bottle thick glasses was the examinar. He was about 5 feet tall and had a moustache and of course those glasses! I froze solid and could not copy another letter. Ill never forget those words he said after he checked my paper. Come back and see me in 30 days! I did and the next time I passed with flying colors, copying all 5 minutes solid without a single miss. This time I didn't look at him until I was finished, but when he checked my copy, he smiled at me! SAweet revenge. 73, John, W4AWM ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Average OP Age
I'm inclined to go along with the crowd on this one... About all of the operators I know are 60+. Myself included. And for the memories of the FCC examiner.. I took my First Phone Commercial test at the old Federal Court House in Miami in 1963. Now that (and the Second Class element) was a test. Drove down from Sarasota the night before the test and was plenty wrung out for the drive home afterward. I recall that the only way of knowing if you passed was to wait for the letter from the FCC. When I opened that envelope and saw that First Class Ticket it had to have been one of the better days of my life. HI Hi 73 all W4MIL Chuck -Original Message- From: Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:07 am Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Average OP Age Happy birthday John, I am sure you remember what it was like to sit in front of the FCC examiner. I took the exam for the First Phone Commercial the same waywhat a bugger 73, Bob, W4WSZ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Average OP Age I am right behind you, Bob. I turned 70 on Sunday and have been licensed continuously since 1953. 73, John, W4AWM ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Average OP Age
I feel so young at 22! On 24/07/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm inclined to go along with the crowd on this one... About all of the operators I know are 60+. Myself included. And for the memories of the FCC examiner.. I took my First Phone Commercial test at the old Federal Court House in Miami in 1963. Now that (and the Second Class element) was a test. Drove down from Sarasota the night before the test and was plenty wrung out for the drive home afterward. I recall that the only way of knowing if you passed was to wait for the letter from the FCC. When I opened that envelope and saw that First Class Ticket it had to have been one of the better days of my life. HI Hi 73 all W4MIL Chuck -Original Message- From: Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:07 am Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Average OP Age Happy birthday John, I am sure you remember what it was like to sit in front of the FCC examiner. I took the exam for the First Phone Commercial the same waywhat a bugger 73, Bob, W4WSZ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Average OP Age I am right behind you, Bob. I turned 70 on Sunday and have been licensed continuously since 1953. 73, John, W4AWM ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. -- Conor www.conorfarrell.com www.propagandaforthemasses.org __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Average OP Age
Bob wrote: Someone .. please..respond with your age so that I'm not the oldest buzzard here. I need the morale booster..hi 73 to all you youngsters Bob, W4WSZ Age 72 and On the Air since 1951 If Perry/W5KGZ were on this reflector, you wouldn't feel so bad. His birthday is January 7th, 1924. Otis/K5SWK who will probably never be on a computer, but has his 833xP-P 833 rig back on the air, is a year older than Perry. There are others... but most of the 70+ year old hams I know are on SSB. RIP K5DKM/Paul White who passed away last month. Paul was born the same year my dad was, in 1920. -- 73 = Best Regards, -Geoff/W5OMR __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Average OP Age
Hi Bob, I don't remember the lady, but I sure will never forget Mr Cline. He was a piece of work! I went back to see him about 6 months later when I took my General. Passed the code again, missing only 2 letters out of the whole 5 minutes and also missed 2 on the written. Not too shabby. My Advanced is a bit of a story. I had injured my back at work and was off for nearly 6 months. I was determined to accomplish something during that period so I deided to take a swat at the Advanced. It was the last day they gave exams at the Baltimore field office b4 the VE program went into effect. I walked into the exam room and they started sending code. I didn't need it for the Advanced since I already had credit for 13 WPM from my General, but I decided to copy it anyway. AAfter the test was finished, I asked the examiner what the CW was all about. He told me that it was the Radio Telegraph First exam with 25WPM code groups. I asked if he would mind checking my copy just for laughs. I had only missed one group out of the 5 minute run! I asked if I could possibly get credit for the Extra code test and take a swipe at the Extra written. He said no, that the extra code had to be 20 WPM Plain text. RATS! At least I passed the Advanced written. 73, John, W4AWM ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
RE: [AMRadio] Average OP Age
You ARE so young at 22! Enjoy it to the fullest, it slips away so quickly... Rick/K5IAR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Conor Farrell Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:14 AM To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Average OP Age I feel so young at 22! __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Average OP Age
Face it Bob, you are REALLY old. Ken W2DTC age 67 Someone .. please..respond with your age so that I'm not the oldest buzzard here. I need the morale booster..hi 73 to all you youngsters Bob, W4WSZ Age 72 and On the Air since 1951 __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Average OP Age
my first test i had to take it and wait till the letter came. when i set my advanced they told me i passed. the FCC guy that comes to mind for me was a Russell Banks He and his wife ended up in VA. I can recall years later after he retired he would be on the air a lot. We had many fine qso's . Oh YES I remember going in setting down and when they told us to open the test i looked and him and my arm pits turned into the Cumberland River hi hi or at least that is how it felt 73 Tony QBE ZUT DE WA4JQS ANTHONY W. (Tony) DePrato WA4JQS EXTRA - HEAVY Since 1962 CQ DX HALL OF FAME # 35 A1-OP FISTS # 10573 SKCC #1227 South Sandwich Island Dxpedition Group CALLS HELD: WA4JQS/ZS1, WA4JQS/KC4, WA4JQS/4K1 ZD8JQS, V31SS, VP8BZL, VP8SSI, 3Y0PI __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Average OP Age
Im 53, been on AM since 1968. I have a room full gear needing work. With my job now and family and such I have no time to work on it. I DID manage to repair my HRO60.. I think.. time will tell LOL Im awaiting cooler weather, I generally don't get on AM much from May through September, My shack is just tooo hot but the work bench is actually clean, all test equipment is accessable and who knows, maybe I will finish the repairs on two rx's, get the homebrew finished, do some mods I want to do to the Globe King, and etc, in time for the fall AM season.. I took my test in front of the FCC too. Took 3 months to get the friggin license in the mail! Ronnie - W5SUM On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:48:20 -0400, Anthony W. DePrato wrote Both Bob and Geoff are correct. we are all getting older. i have 6 transmitters setting in the shop waiting for me to get them going. but work for the past 20 yrs has kept me out of the shop. now at 60.5 yrs i am not working but the past six months has had me catching up on things the xyl wanted done or needed done at home. well that list is now down to 3 items so the work shop got cleaned out so i could get to the benchs last week. now i need to decide what tx's i want to keep and get up an running and which ones i want to pass along to another restorer. like most on this list i took my test in front of the FCC in 62 . took me 3 months after school each day studying. i am a pack rat hi hi also. that helps so i have lots of parts along the two 14ft walls of the shop. yes bob i still have my Heath kit HV probe and my shorting stick two items i would never let go of. Geoff is correct about the tests. they teach nothing this day and time. i taught theory for 15yrs for the local club but fewer and fewer wanted anything but a tech lis. so i gave up as more and more just wanted to memorize the answers to the tests. Maybe the answer is here on the Internet for the new kids? maybe we should start some kind of theory class here a refresher for us old farts and a learning chance for those who might like to build. who knows maybe out there somewhere is a kid that has the bug but just does not know where to start. i know i read every email on this reflector and have found that i had forgotten a lot more then i thought i had. thanks to you guys i have had my mind restarted hi hi.. i know there are a lot of us out there hoarding parts that someone needs to start or finish that project. maybe we should start asking if anyone needs this or that and maybe i want to build this but how do i start anyone have any ideals ?. i for one want to build a tuner for a open wire feed ant. have the caps coils and R F amp meter just need to figure out what type of tuner i need to build. i am going to put together an off center fed dipole for 160/80mts and i want a good tuner for it that will handle my Globe Champion 350A or my Valiants. anyway think you guys for keeping our minds alive and working. God Bless 73 Tony wa4jqs QBE ZUT DE WA4JQS ANTHONY W. (Tony) DePrato WA4JQS EXTRA - HEAVY Since 1962 CQ DX HALL OF FAME # 35 A1-OP FISTS # 10573 SKCC #1227 South Sandwich Island Dxpedition Group CALLS HELD: WA4JQS/ZS1, WA4JQS/KC4, WA4JQS/4K1 ZD8JQS, V31SS, VP8BZL, VP8SSI, 3Y0PI __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Average OP Age
I just hope we encourage some younger folks (like the 20 something who checked in) by not only trying to interest them in AM, but also giving them the kind of deals that got us started. There's nothing wrong with returning the favor of the cheap dx-100, ranger, or art-13 starter rigs so many of us enjoyed back in the day thanks to an OM willing to pass along a bargain to keep AM on the air. I'm 56, haven't been without an AM rig since 1967... latest project...bc-610I... this has been a GREAT thread... Thanks to all Warren W1GUD Tampa Bay ps- I just finished taking ALL my boatanchors, save a DX-100 and R-388, to higher, air conditioned ground in storage... I figure I took about a thousand pounds of stuff out for hurricane season, living as I do at 9 feet above sea level... On Jul 24, 2007, at 7:36 PM, ronnie.hull wrote: Im 53, been on AM since 1968. I have a room full gear needing work. With my job now and family and such I have no time to work on it. I DID manage to repair my HRO60.. I think.. time will tell LOL Im awaiting cooler weather, I generally don't get on AM much from May through September, My shack is just tooo hot but the work bench is actually clean, all test equipment is accessable and who knows, maybe I will finish the repairs on two rx's, get the homebrew finished, do some mods I want to do to the Globe King, and etc, in time for the fall AM season.. I took my test in front of the FCC too. Took 3 months to get the friggin license in the mail! Ronnie - W5SUM On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:48:20 -0400, Anthony W. DePrato wrote Both Bob and Geoff are correct. we are all getting older. i have 6 transmitters setting in the shop waiting for me to get them going. but work for the past 20 yrs has kept me out of the shop. now at 60.5 yrs i am not working but the past six months has had me catching up on things the xyl wanted done or needed done at home. well that list is now down to 3 items so the work shop got cleaned out so i could get to the benchs last week. now i need to decide what tx's i want to keep and get up an running and which ones i want to pass along to another restorer. like most on this list i took my test in front of the FCC in 62 . took me 3 months after school each day studying. i am a pack rat hi hi also. that helps so i have lots of parts along the two 14ft walls of the shop. yes bob i still have my Heath kit HV probe and my shorting stick two items i would never let go of. Geoff is correct about the tests. they teach nothing this day and time. i taught theory for 15yrs for the local club but fewer and fewer wanted anything but a tech lis. so i gave up as more and more just wanted to memorize the answers to the tests. Maybe the answer is here on the Internet for the new kids? maybe we should start some kind of theory class here a refresher for us old farts and a learning chance for those who might like to build. who knows maybe out there somewhere is a kid that has the bug but just does not know where to start. i know i read every email on this reflector and have found that i had forgotten a lot more then i thought i had. thanks to you guys i have had my mind restarted hi hi.. i know there are a lot of us out there hoarding parts that someone needs to start or finish that project. maybe we should start asking if anyone needs this or that and maybe i want to build this but how do i start anyone have any ideals ?. i for one want to build a tuner for a open wire feed ant. have the caps coils and R F amp meter just need to figure out what type of tuner i need to build. i am going to put together an off center fed dipole for 160/80mts and i want a good tuner for it that will handle my Globe Champion 350A or my Valiants. anyway think you guys for keeping our minds alive and working. God Bless 73 Tony wa4jqs QBE ZUT DE WA4JQS ANTHONY W. (Tony) DePrato WA4JQS EXTRA - HEAVY Since 1962 CQ DX HALL OF FAME # 35 A1-OP FISTS # 10573 SKCC #1227 South Sandwich Island Dxpedition Group CALLS HELD: WA4JQS/ZS1, WA4JQS/KC4, WA4JQS/4K1 ZD8JQS, V31SS, VP8BZL, VP8SSI, 3Y0PI __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!):
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No shortage of meters here but who even can calculate the shunt or series resistor for an analog meter nowdays. From some of the questions I see posted by newbys on several Ham forums I have to wonder how they ever passed the test. Depends on the meter movement. A FS=1mA meter movement is 1000 ohms per volt. So, in order to measure kV, the series shunt is 1Megohm per 1000v. Therefore, if your DC volt meter reads 0 ~ 5, then 5Megohms would measure 5,000VDC at full scale. I think, though, you're asking more along the lines of who, of the 'todays ham' crowd even posses the knowledge of how to build a meter shunt and I've got to agree. Have you -seen- a test, recently? I got licensed in Feb of 1984, by two general class license holders. That was before the VE program. In September of that following year, was the last time the FCC came to San Antonio to administer tests. The VE program was -very- close behind (3 months or so, as I recall). 10 years after that, I helped out in the VE program, and Oh My Goodness!! The CW test is 'MULTIPLE GUESS'? (back when they -had- CW testing ~sigh~) The theory questions weren't much better... What is the current through a 1k ohm resister if 1v is applied across it? A) 250 Amps B) 117VAC C) 47 ohms D) 100mA No, seriously.. it was -that- bad! And that was 13 years ago. Can you imagine how much further down the bar has been 'lowered' by the lobbyist/employers of the Yae-com-wood manufacturers of today? Wait... you (collectively) looked surprised Oh, c'mon... you don't -really- think the ARRL lowered the standards of entry level Ham Radio licensing out of the goodness of their hearts, do you? Money Talks (you know the rest) -- 73 = Best Regards, -Geoff/W5OMR __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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I'm *LESS* concerned about the calculations, *OR* building the shunt. I have *MUCH* more concern for the youngster when it comes to *making* the High Voltage Probe! What clue does he have about insulation thickness? What about creapage distance? Heathkit used to make and sell a 20KVDC HV probe. Has anyone priced a new one lately? Go ahead - take your 1KV VTVM and poke around a 3KV or 4KV power supply - heck, even 2KV?!?!?! Somebody is *going* to get seriously hurt! Run a pair of 813s @ 2KV. Okay, whom is going to do what measurements? THIS IS what *WE* are losing with *US* getting older! I'm a young pup at 57! Bob - N0DGN Geoff/W5OMR wrote: Depends on the meter movement. A FS=1mA meter movement is 1000 ohms per volt. So, in order to measure kV, the series shunt is 1Megohm per 1000v. Therefore, if your DC volt meter reads 0 ~ 5, then 5Megohms would measure 5,000VDC at full scale. I think, though, you're asking more along the lines of who, of the 'todays ham' crowd even posses the knowledge of how to build a meter shunt and I've got to agree. Have you -seen- a test, recently? I got licensed in Feb of 1984, by two general class license holders. That was before the VE program. In September of that following year, was the last time the FCC came to San Antonio to administer tests. The VE program was -very- close behind (3 months or so, as I recall). 10 years after that, I helped out in the VE program, and Oh My Goodness!! The CW test is 'MULTIPLE GUESS'? (back when they -had- CW testing ~sigh~) The theory questions weren't much better... What is the current through a 1k ohm resister if 1v is applied across it? A) 250 Amps B) 117VAC C) 47 ohms D) 100mA No, seriously.. it was -that- bad! And that was 13 years ago. Can you imagine how much further down the bar has been 'lowered' by the lobbyist/employers of the Yae-com-wood manufacturers of today? Wait... you (collectively) looked surprised Oh, c'mon... you don't -really- think the ARRL lowered the standards of entry level Ham Radio licensing out of the goodness of their hearts, do you? Money Talks (you know the rest) -- 73 = Best Regards, -Geoff/W5OMR __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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All my homebrew stuff uses radio shack meters and home made shunts. To calibrate them, I use a variac and a dmm and get the meters to read the same up to 1000 volts (what the DMM does). I been looking at the extra class test, I can homebrew a station and an antenna, but cant pass that test, lots of stuff about modes I never heard of, digital stuff, satellite stuff, vhf stuff, etc. YUK! Brett N2DTS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff/W5OMR Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 11:31 AM To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Average OP Age was BA Tr FS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No shortage of meters here but who even can calculate the shunt or series resistor for an analog meter nowdays. From some of the questions I see posted by newbys on several Ham forums I have to wonder how they ever passed the test. Depends on the meter movement. A FS=1mA meter movement is 1000 ohms per volt. So, in order to measure kV, the series shunt is 1Megohm per 1000v. Therefore, if your DC volt meter reads 0 ~ 5, then 5Megohms would measure 5,000VDC at full scale. I think, though, you're asking more along the lines of who, of the 'todays ham' crowd even posses the knowledge of how to build a meter shunt and I've got to agree. Have you -seen- a test, recently? I got licensed in Feb of 1984, by two general class license holders. That was before the VE program. In September of that following year, was the last time the FCC came to San Antonio to administer tests. The VE program was -very- close behind (3 months or so, as I recall). 10 years after that, I helped out in the VE program, and Oh My Goodness!! The CW test is 'MULTIPLE GUESS'? (back when they -had- CW testing ~sigh~) The theory questions weren't much better... What is the current through a 1k ohm resister if 1v is applied across it? A) 250 Amps B) 117VAC C) 47 ohms D) 100mA No, seriously.. it was -that- bad! And that was 13 years ago. Can you imagine how much further down the bar has been 'lowered' by the lobbyist/employers of the Yae-com-wood manufacturers of today? Wait... you (collectively) looked surprised Oh, c'mon... you don't -really- think the ARRL lowered the standards of entry level Ham Radio licensing out of the goodness of their hearts, do you? Money Talks (you know the rest) -- 73 = Best Regards, -Geoff/W5OMR __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Brett gazdzinski wrote: I been looking at the extra class test, I can homebrew a station and an antenna, but cant pass that test, lots of stuff about modes I never heard of, digital stuff, satellite stuff, vhf stuff, etc. YUK! That was always a point of contention of mine... Why would I *CARE* what the % of blanking is of black on a video screen on ATV, or SSTV? and, Rules about TV via ham radio confuse me... if Video (ATV) is only on UHF (and above) why do you have to be an Extra to operate ATV, when the band is open to Technicians and up? I memorized those parts of the test/question pool long enough to pass, and to hell with the why's... I learned about j+/- stuff. Don't remember it, but I remember I studied that part of it, for a month, trying to understand more of the 'why' in figuring antenna calculations. -- -Geoff/W5OMR __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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That reminds me of something I read a while back that I thought was interesting. It explained how the Technician class license was originally intended for radio and electronic experimenters. A problem arose in that some Techs were communicating with each other on the air for conversations sake. Some in the Ham community thought that should be illegal. I guess the communicators won. :) I guess it was like Geoff was saying even back then. More members - more $$$. Kent/KX5KW On Monday 23 July 2007 02:09:38 pm Jim Wilhite wrote: You are right Brett. It seems as if the test is now geared to operating rather than understanding the basics of electronics. Not much more than recognizing a symbol on a diagram. Jim/W5JO __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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The guys with the broadcast rigs are in a whole nother class... Yep, wheeled Bill, KB3DKS/1 Bill, I think you meant to say was YP WELL HEELED! 73 Mac WQ8U Hillsborough, NC __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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What the guy with five or more thumbs meant to type was: Yep, well heeled. Never could tell q good punch line. 73 J.D. Mac Aulay, WQ8U [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The guys with the broadcast rigs are in a whole nother class... Yep, wheeled Bill, KB3DKS/1 Bill, I think you meant to say was YP WELL HEELED! 73 Mac WQ8U Hillsborough, NC __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. Mac WQ8U Hillsborough, NC __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
