RE: [AMRadio] Re: ARRL Director explains IARU bandplan to the "ignorant"
Thanks for your observations. All they (The ARRL) has to do is respond to my free offer of a Webinar to explain their position to the membership. So far all I see is more condescending responses about how "WE" the members need to be better educated. I believe my fellow Amateurs who enjoy AM and Vintage equipment are more intelligent than that. All the Best Ron Weaver W6OM www.qsl.net/w6om -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Markavage Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:07 PM To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Re: ARRL Director explains IARU bandplan to the "ignorant" I believe only the Directors and Vice-Directors are subject to a recall. A proposal is required, along with at least 10% of the membership in that Division signing and dating the petition. After the petition is validated, a ballot is prepared and a vote must be taken of the membership in that entire Division (Recall - Yes or No). The paid staff isn't subject to the recall ruling. Also, you said: "we "ignorant" members" But, he(Director) really said: "very few ignorant people" It doesn't sound like he was categorizing the entire AM community. But then again, I. you, they, etc. can sometimes be ignorant to the true meaning of someone's written intent especially if it's worded poorly. Pete, wa2cwa On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 18:32:47 -0800 "W6OM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In an open letter to Mr. Sumner and his staff I invited them to > participate > in a live "Webinar" at my expense to accept questions from the > membership > and explain their activities in regards to this ongoing issue. I was > clear > that it would be "no expense" to the ARRL and my engineering staff > would set > up the portal and publish the login address to the membership. > > To date Mr. Sumner nor anyone on his staff or directors have > accepted my > invitation which raises and even more ominous question as to why > they will > not explain this issue in an open forum. Their condescending > rhetoric and > contempt for we "ignorant" members is unacceptable. > > According to the ARRL bylaws, we the members can a recall of the > entire team > and replace them. > > No court necessary, just use the rules and change the system > > All the Best > > Ron Weaver W6OM > > www.qsl.net/w6om __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Re: ARRL Director explains IARU bandplan to the "ignorant"
I believe only the Directors and Vice-Directors are subject to a recall. A proposal is required, along with at least 10% of the membership in that Division signing and dating the petition. After the petition is validated, a ballot is prepared and a vote must be taken of the membership in that entire Division (Recall - Yes or No). The paid staff isn't subject to the recall ruling. Also, you said: "we "ignorant" members" But, he(Director) really said: "very few ignorant people" It doesn't sound like he was categorizing the entire AM community. But then again, I. you, they, etc. can sometimes be ignorant to the true meaning of someone's written intent especially if it's worded poorly. Pete, wa2cwa On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 18:32:47 -0800 "W6OM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In an open letter to Mr. Sumner and his staff I invited them to > participate > in a live "Webinar" at my expense to accept questions from the > membership > and explain their activities in regards to this ongoing issue. I was > clear > that it would be "no expense" to the ARRL and my engineering staff > would set > up the portal and publish the login address to the membership. > > To date Mr. Sumner nor anyone on his staff or directors have > accepted my > invitation which raises and even more ominous question as to why > they will > not explain this issue in an open forum. Their condescending > rhetoric and > contempt for we "ignorant" members is unacceptable. > > According to the ARRL bylaws, we the members can a recall of the > entire team > and replace them. > > No court necessary, just use the rules and change the system > > All the Best > > Ron Weaver W6OM > > www.qsl.net/w6om __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
RE: [AMRadio] Re: ARRL Director explains IARU bandplan to the "ignorant"
In an open letter to Mr. Sumner and his staff I invited them to participate in a live "Webinar" at my expense to accept questions from the membership and explain their activities in regards to this ongoing issue. I was clear that it would be "no expense" to the ARRL and my engineering staff would set up the portal and publish the login address to the membership. To date Mr. Sumner nor anyone on his staff or directors have accepted my invitation which raises and even more ominous question as to why they will not explain this issue in an open forum. Their condescending rhetoric and contempt for we "ignorant" members is unacceptable. According to the ARRL bylaws, we the members can a recall of the entire team and replace them. No court necessary, just use the rules and change the system All the Best Ron Weaver W6OM www.qsl.net/w6om -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Bruhns Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:58 PM To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Re: ARRL Director explains IARU bandplan to the "ignorant" The word "ignorant" is usually, and in this context definitely, used as a derisive term. This letter and its mode of influence delivery leaves quite a bit to be desired. I agree that the ARRL negotiators should receive many requests to expand the use of those little asterisks, to include 160 meters, and more areas of 75, 40, etc. If it doesn't matter, then there should be no problem. I'm just hoping that nobody takes anything to the Supreme Court again. In the past, that turned out to be less than helpful. Bacon, WA3WDR __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Re: ARRL Director explains IARU bandplan to the "ignorant"
I think he's got his own problems to deal with these days. Pete, wa2cwa On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 20:57:42 -0500 "Bob Bruhns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I'm just hoping that nobody takes anything to the Supreme Court > again. In the past, that turned out to be less than helpful. > > Bacon, WA3WDR __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Re: ARRL Director explains IARU bandplan to the "ignorant"
The word "ignorant" is usually, and in this context definitely, used as a derisive term. This letter and its mode of influence delivery leaves quite a bit to be desired. I agree that the ARRL negotiators should receive many requests to expand the use of those little asterisks, to include 160 meters, and more areas of 75, 40, etc. If it doesn't matter, then there should be no problem. I'm just hoping that nobody takes anything to the Supreme Court again. In the past, that turned out to be less than helpful. Bacon, WA3WDR __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
