[amsat-bb] Re: true duplex radios

2009-06-01 Thread Larry Gerhardstein
Since some of the radios suggested are 'old', a column about sub-tones 
available would be helpful.  Also computer interface.

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True; This list would be a good start. I suggest a table with mode
capabilities and frequency bands, both standard and optional.

OZ1MY wrote:
 Hi,
 I do not see the Kenwood TS-790 base station ?
 73 OZ1MY
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[amsat-bb] Re: true duplex radios

2009-06-01 Thread Clint Bradford
  ... Yaesu FT-8800 ...

Really? Dual-receive, indeed. And will perform crossband repeating.  
But I can transmit on one band and simultaneously hear myself on  
another with a FT-8800?
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[amsat-bb] Reminder

2009-06-01 Thread Martha
The deadline for nominations for the AMSAT BOD must be received at the AMSAT
office no later than June 12th. A nomination requires either one AMSAT
Member Society or five current AMSAT members.  A director serves 2 years.
Our address is:  AMSAT, 850 Sligo Ave #600, Silver Spring MD 20910.
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73- Martha
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[amsat-bb] Re: true duplex radios

2009-06-01 Thread Nate Duehr

On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 13:23:44 -0700, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
amsat...@wd9ewk.net said:

 If I had to replace my IC-2720H, I would probably get an FT-8800 as
 the replacement.  Price is good, better than the IC-2820H which was
 Icom's replacement for the IC-2720H, and the separate knobs for each
 VFO made it a better (for me) choice than the current Kenwood
 2m/70cm FM mobiles (TM-D710 or TM-V71A).  And, as Drew
 mentioned, its ability to function as a cross-band repeater ensures it
 can work with the satellites in cross-band full-duplex mode.

I would say get the 2820 and try out some D-STAR/digital stuff too. 
Plus the 2820 has the GPS in it... with the D-STAR installed... 

IC-2820 and Kenwood's TNC/control head thing together makes a pretty
cool little digital geek mobile station, and with the 2820 also
capable of duplex operation... 

Lots of toys = fun.  Of course, to get the full utilization out of the
D-STAR portion, you really need to be in the coverage of a Gateway
(internet) equipped D-STAR repeater...

Stuff to think about... 

Nate WY0X
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[amsat-bb] Re: true duplex radios

2009-06-01 Thread Andrew Glasbrenner




 But the ability to crossband repeat doesn't automatically mean that a 
 radio can monitor a satellite's downlink while transmitting to it 


Of course it does. The radio must be able to receive on one band while 
transmitting on another in order to cross band repeat, which is the same 
functionality we want for satellite. All cross band repeat capable rigs are 
by nature full duplex. However, not all full duplex rigs will cross band 
repeat.

73, Drew KO4MA 

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[amsat-bb] Correction

2009-06-01 Thread Martha
After checking the bylaws, please note that the deadline for nomination is
JUNE 15th not June 12th.  I sincerely apologize for the error.

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[amsat-bb] Re: true duplex radios

2009-06-01 Thread Andrew Glasbrenner
 That's correct Clint
 And also being full duplex with ability to hear the sat downlink doesn't 
 mean it has the ability to  crossband repeat also
 Howard
 VE4ISP


Again, incorrect. Think about it for a second. In order for a radio to 
receive a signal on one band and simultaneously repeat it on another (the 
meaning of cross band repeat), it has to be capable of full duplex 
operation. I challenge both of you to find an example that will cross band 
repeat but isn't full duplex.

I think maybe you are confusing cross band repeat with cross band split 
capable.

73, Drew KO4MA

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[amsat-bb] Call for Papers--2009 ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference

2009-06-01 Thread Ford, Steve, WB8IMY
Technical papers are solicited for presentation at the 28th Annual ARRL and 
TAPR Digital Communications Conference to be held September 25-27, 2009 in 
Chicago, Illinois. These papers will also be published in the Conference 
Proceedings (you do NOT need to attend the conference to have your paper 
included in the Proceedings). The submission deadline is July 31, 2009. Please 
send papers to:

Maty Weinberg 
ARRL 
225 Main St 
Newington, CT 06111 

or you can make your submission via e-mail to: m...@arrl.org 

Papers will be published exactly as submitted and authors will retain all 
rights. 

73 . . . Steve, WB8IMY 
ARRL 



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[amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT-India VO-52 Award

2009-06-01 Thread Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
Hi!

 My VO-52 Award arrived in today's mail, and it's very, very nice. It's
 printed on a very heavy stock and is very attractive. I look forward to
 getting it in a frame and on display asap.

Mine was in the PO box this afternoon, also.  A very nice certificate!
Thanks to AMSAT India for this!

73!




Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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[amsat-bb] Re: true duplex radios

2009-06-01 Thread Howard Kowall
Yes but
To use the rig as a cross band repeater is a different story.
To input on VHF and retransmit on UHF is crossband repeat
Using the rig as a repeater.
I have an HT that is full duplex but is unable to crossband 
repeat(rebroadcast on another band)
Am I correct in my statements
I hope so
Howard
VE4ISP


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Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: true duplex radios


 That's correct Clint
 And also being full duplex with ability to hear the sat downlink doesn't 
 mean it has the ability to  crossband repeat also
 Howard
 VE4ISP


 Again, incorrect. Think about it for a second. In order for a radio to 
 receive a signal on one band and simultaneously repeat it on another (the 
 meaning of cross band repeat), it has to be capable of full duplex 
 operation. I challenge both of you to find an example that will cross band 
 repeat but isn't full duplex.

 I think maybe you are confusing cross band repeat with cross band split 
 capable.

 73, Drew KO4MA
 

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[amsat-bb] I should have thought of this earlier ....

2009-06-01 Thread n3tl
Hey everyone,

I just heard myself on the AO-7 downlink running 500 mW rf out from one of my 
FT-817s. Just to be sure I also tuned - and sent a quick CQ and ID - to three 
different spots in the passband (started just above 145.950, the moved up near 
145.957, and then back down to just above 145.947). 

I hadn't planned on working the pass. I had a bit of minor surgery late this 
afternoon, and not feeling 100% just now. But when I saw the elevation of this 
pass (almost 84 degrees here), I decided to see whether I could make the trip 
with a half-watt and the crappy ol' Elk ... hihi. A few weeks ago, I worked 
K4YYL one morning on a similar-elevation pass running 1 watt out. Just for the 
heck of it, I decided to take that final low-power step (i.e., 500 mW is as low 
as any of my all-mode radios will go).

By the time I got everything fired up, engaged Doppler tuning in SatPC 32 and 
loosened up my shoulder/elbow/wrist az/el system, AO-7 was past maximum 
elevation and on her way down to my northwest. According to the computer, I 
heard myself when the satellite was between 55 and 60 degrees. It was a weak 
signal, to be sure - but it was copyable on the Elk inside my house. I suspect 
those guys with real antennas and preamps could have copied me ok. The next 
time I get a pass like this one, I'm going to think ahead and post something to 
the BB because I sure would like to get at least one flea power contact on 
the Grand Old Girl. She was busy just now - or, at least, it seemed that way to 
me. Sure was nice to hear.

73 to all,

Tim - N3TL
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[amsat-bb] Re: true duplex radios

2009-06-01 Thread sgholly
HTIcom IC-24AT73,Steve WI2W- Original Message -From: Andrew Koenig 
Date: Monday, June 1, 2009 7:21 pmSubject: [amsat-bb] Re: true duplex radiosCc: 
amsat-bb@amsat.org Here's my attempt of to update the list of full duplex 
capable  radios. Did I miss anything?   HTs - Icom IC-W2A Icom IC-W31A 
Icom IC-W32 Icom IC-Z1A Icom IC-X2A (440MHz/1.2GHz) Yaesu FT-470 Yaesu 
FT-530 Yaesu FR-51R Kenwood TH-D7 Kenwood TH-75A Kenwood TH-77 Kenwood 
TH-78 Alinco DJ-G5T Alinco DJ-580T Alinco DJ-G7   Mobile rigs - Kenwood 
TM732 Kenwood TM733 Kenwood TM741 Kenwood TM742 Kenwood TM941 Kenwood 
TM942 Kenwood TM-D700/710 Yaesu FT-4700 Yaesu FT-5100 Yaesu FT-5200 Yaesu 
FT-8800 Yaesu FT-8900 Icom 2728H Icom IC2800 Icom IC-2340 Icom IC-2720 
Icom IC-2820 Icom IC-Delta-100 Heathkit HW-24/HW-24A  Base rigs - Yaesu 
FT-726 (with OSCAR Module) Yaesu FT-736 Yaesu FT-847 Kenwood TS-2000 Icom 
820 Icom 821 Icom IC-910H Icom IC-970  --  Andrew Koenig KE5GDB 
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[amsat-bb] Re: 2.4 Gig

2009-06-01 Thread i8cvs
Hi Nels, W0TUP

You don't mention the size of your dish and the overall System Temperature
of your receiving system for 2.4 GHz but if it was good for AO40 you should
be actually able to receive a small level of Sun-Noise.

As an example:

Using my 1.2 meters dish with an overall  System Temperature of the system
of about 72 kelvin I was in condition to day to get about 3.4 dB of
Sun-Noise as the included diagram showes.

The signal radiated by AO-51 is too strong to evaluate if your 2.4 GHz
receiving system is in good shape or not.

73 de

i8CVS Domenico

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Subject: [amsat-bb] 2.4 Gig


Are there any satellites on 2.4 gig so I can check out my old AO-40 dish.
73,
Nels, WØTUP
Minot, North Dakota
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[amsat-bb] Shuttle Atop Jet

2009-06-01 Thread Clint Bradford
I missed seeing this incredible photo last December when NASA released  
it. It is a view from ABOVE the Shuttle Endeavor/jet as they fly over  
the Mojave Desert after STS-126 last December.

http://tinyurl.com/nr3zdo

Clint Bradford, K6LCS
909-241-7666




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