[amsat-bb] SPECIAL 911 EVENT

2011-09-11 Thread Peter Portanova

Good Morning,

I have been invited, WB2OQQ, to operate a portable satellite station today
September 11th, using the call NW2C, at Historic Fort Totten, located in
Bayside New York, only a few miles from ground zero.  Fort Totten was one of
many placed used in recovery and healing during 911.

I will operate all FM satellite passes from 12 noon to 6pm EDT,
1600, -2200z.  For those that make a confirmed satellite contact and wish to
receive a Certificate of Confirmation, visit  http://www.nw2c.org/911.html,
for all the details, NW2C will also be operating on the general bands, check
clusters for frequency updates.

I look forward to demonstrating the enjoyment amateur operators have using 
the satellites and it's potential as another communications possibility in a 
crisis, so let's put on a good show
for the very special people that will be invited to this 911 event, thank 
you.


73's Pete
WB2OQQ
www.massapequanyweather.com



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[amsat-bb] Re: Finally

2011-09-11 Thread Michael Schulz
Kevin,

AO-7 is a special bird. Did you check when you tried to work it which mode it 
was in? I tried several times to 
get it while it was in mode A (10m down/2m up) but never received the beacon or 
any signal with either a 
vertical, a beam or a wire. AO-7 is only in mode B every other day. A much 
easier linear bird to test with would
probably be VO-52. All the frequencies are on the AMSAT page. VO-52 right now 
uses the Indian transponder.
Let me know if you want to try today on VO-52 in the afternoon.

73 Mike K5TRI

On Sep 10, 2011, at 2:34 PM, Kevin Deane wrote:

> 
> Sorry about all the posts I was wondering what was going on. Looks like the 
> one post finally went through about NEXT weekend. My little Werker batteries 
> seem to be holding up great and will be testing Solar input/radio draw today. 
> Is there something like more points for solar/portable stations? Or is that 
> only for contests or somethin?
> 
> I didnt think it would but I took some test pictures of the GPS and portable 
> station came out good so that will be great for verifacation if needed for 
> the DN Grids for next week. Its an older Garmin but I think it shows all the 
> needed info.
> 
> I bought a duplexer for the Yaesu 857 but am not sure which way the 
> frequencies go for the SSB birds. Must not be transmitting on the right freq 
> cause no one is responding to my calls on AO-7...:(
> 
> Kevin
> KF7MYK
> 
> 
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[amsat-bb] Yin and Yang

2011-09-11 Thread Clint Bradford
I stayed up all night Friday preparing printouts and stuff for the ARRL SW 
Division Convention. Left the house at 6:30am - to get there for our first of 
five sat passes at 7:47am. Worked five passes in front of folks. Performed my 
sat show for 90 minutes in front of a standing-room-only group of eighty-two. 
It was a non-stop flurry of activity. Had a GREAT time. Voice gone ... 
"convention legs" (you know, those muscles behind your shins get really sore - 
muscles that you usually never know are there ... (grin)).

Got home about 10pm. Checked email. Six messages from show attendees, thanking 
me for everything. I quickly scanned the AMSAT-BB, QRZ.com, and eHam.net - and 
found a reply to a message I had written in a thread last week that really set 
me off. Someone mentioned that ARISSat-1 was "crippled" and of no use ... I 
replied by listing its intended modes, and the fact that all is working pretty 
darned as expected. We've even taxed a battery that was only rated at 5 
discharge-charge cycles ... "But it is all working," I wrote.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Not really...it has become a piece of space junk very quickly. Deploying 
without the correct antenna and a crappy battery is an example of where our 
space program has gone. A sat that is in faliure mode only days after 
deployment. Donate more to AMSAT, we might get another piece or two of space 
junk in orbit before the ISS falls out of orbit. 

/s/
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Well, I THOUGHT I was going to bed quickly. No way was I going to let that go 
unanswered overnight:

- - - - - - - - - - - - - -

>> ... it has become a piece of space junk very quickly ...

I'll tell that to the 45 folks who witnessed/heard it this afternoon at the 
ARRL SW Division Convention in Torrance, CA. They will be so glad to be 
enlightened by your comment. They THOUGHT it was exciting hearing that 250mW 
signal and getting amped up about amateur sat comms this morning. But according 
to you, they are all wrong ...

>> ... Deploying without the correct antenna ...

Yet working marvelously - a true testament to those  who built the satellite.

>> ... and a crappy battery ...

The battery is exactly what was planned for - and anyone knowledgeable with the 
project knew its limitations. It was subjected to a very different charging 
regimen - as opposed to its expected rating of "five" discharge-charge cycles. 
If anyone calls the battery aspect of this project a "failure" then they have 
no clue as to what they are talking about. The battery was designed for Russian 
spacesuits and EVAs - seemed OK for that type of work to those who are 
responsible for the lives of their Cosmonauts.

>> ... is an example of where our space program has gone ...

Uh, this is an amateur radio project - with a Russian educational project on 
board. Where does NASA - "our space program" fail?

We deployed an experiment over a month ago that is to this hour working well. 
This was never meant to be a long-term project.

I am responsible for AMSAT receiving $1175 so far for this project. I do not 
remember seeing your name on the list of donors. Please correct me if I am 
wrong. And if you are truly interested n the future of amateur satellites, I'd 
like to see you include AMSAT in your will next week, and donate a little 
toward the future projects that are in the works. OR, of course, you can just 
moan and complain mindlessly in public forums like this one. It's your choice.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

I wasn't livid ... just irritated at the ignorance. Yes, I know that the 
battery started to deteriorate a little sooner than expected. But no one had 
subjected such a battery to what ARISSat-1 engineers were doing to it: MANY 
shallow charges daily. Just couple the YIN of excitedly working ARISSat-1 in 
front of a live audience and hearing people applaud the project - versus the 
YANG of this moronic post ... It was quite a day.

And so it goes ...

Clint Bradford, K6LCS
909-241-7666





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[amsat-bb] Re: Yin and Yang

2011-09-11 Thread Bill Ress

Hi Clint,

I applaud and appreciate your efforts to demonstrate satellite 
communications and in particular your rebuttal to the detractors of 
ARISSat-1.


As the designer and builder of the ARISSat-1 U/V transponder, I'm 
thrilled that it is performing well on the VHF downlink and pretty darn 
good on the UHF uplink with just an inch or so of antenna exposed.


So naturally it sticks in my throat when a few out there just don't, and 
probably never will, appreciate the many, many volunteer hours spent by 
the ARISSat-1 team designing, building and testing the satellite. But I 
know the AMSAT team won't let a few dunder-heads slow down the momentum 
for the next satellite project - FOX.


Again thanks for speaking up and for your many volunteer hours spreading 
our mission.


Regards...Bill - N6GHz



On 9/11/2011 11:15 AM, Clint Bradford wrote:

I stayed up all night Friday preparing printouts and stuff for the ARRL SW Division 
Convention. Left the house at 6:30am - to get there for our first of five sat passes at 
7:47am. Worked five passes in front of folks. Performed my sat show for 90 minutes in 
front of a standing-room-only group of eighty-two. It was a non-stop flurry of activity. 
Had a GREAT time. Voice gone ... "convention legs" (you know, those muscles 
behind your shins get really sore - muscles that you usually never know are there ... 
(grin)).

Got home about 10pm. Checked email. Six messages from show attendees, thanking me for everything. I 
quickly scanned the AMSAT-BB, QRZ.com, and eHam.net - and found a reply to a message I had written 
in a thread last week that really set me off. Someone mentioned that ARISSat-1 was 
"crippled" and of no use ... I replied by listing its intended modes, and the fact that 
all is working pretty darned as expected. We've even taxed a battery that was only rated at 5 
discharge-charge cycles ... "But it is all working," I wrote.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Not really...it has become a piece of space junk very quickly. Deploying 
without the correct antenna and a crappy battery is an example of where our 
space program has gone. A sat that is in faliure mode only days after 
deployment. Donate more to AMSAT, we might get another piece or two of space 
junk in orbit before the ISS falls out of orbit.

/s/
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Well, I THOUGHT I was going to bed quickly. No way was I going to let that go 
unanswered overnight:

- - - - - - - - - - - - - -


... it has become a piece of space junk very quickly ...


I'll tell that to the 45 folks who witnessed/heard it this afternoon at the 
ARRL SW Division Convention in Torrance, CA. They will be so glad to be 
enlightened by your comment. They THOUGHT it was exciting hearing that 250mW 
signal and getting amped up about amateur sat comms this morning. But according 
to you, they are all wrong ...


... Deploying without the correct antenna ...


Yet working marvelously - a true testament to those  who built the satellite.


... and a crappy battery ...


The battery is exactly what was planned for - and anyone knowledgeable with the project knew its 
limitations. It was subjected to a very different charging regimen - as opposed to its expected 
rating of "five" discharge-charge cycles. If anyone calls the battery aspect of this 
project a "failure" then they have no clue as to what they are talking about. The battery 
was designed for Russian spacesuits and EVAs - seemed OK for that type of work to those who are 
responsible for the lives of their Cosmonauts.


... is an example of where our space program has gone ...


Uh, this is an amateur radio project - with a Russian educational project on board. Where 
does NASA - "our space program" fail?

We deployed an experiment over a month ago that is to this hour working well. 
This was never meant to be a long-term project.

I am responsible for AMSAT receiving $1175 so far for this project. I do not 
remember seeing your name on the list of donors. Please correct me if I am 
wrong. And if you are truly interested n the future of amateur satellites, I'd 
like to see you include AMSAT in your will next week, and donate a little 
toward the future projects that are in the works. OR, of course, you can just 
moan and complain mindlessly in public forums like this one. It's your choice.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

I wasn't livid ... just irritated at the ignorance. Yes, I know that the 
battery started to deteriorate a little sooner than expected. But no one had 
subjected such a battery to what ARISSat-1 engineers were doing to it: MANY 
shallow charges daily. Just couple the YIN of excitedly working ARISSat-1 in 
front of a live audience and hearing people applaud the project - versus the 
YANG of this moronic post ... It was quite a day.

And so it goes ...

Clint Bradford, K6LCS
909-241-7666





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[amsat-bb] Re: Yin and Yang

2011-09-11 Thread Trevor .
ARISSat-1 is an outstanding acheivement. 

I presume that the use of the Silver-Zinc battery was a design constraint 
imposed by those who commissioned the satellite - either use that battery or 
there's no satellite.

ARISSat-1 has shown the attraction of SSTV - a great many Amateurs from outside 
the Amateur Satellite community have tuned into the downlink just to get the 
SSTV pics.

The BPSK beacon has clearly demonstrated that there are better ways to send 
telemetry that 1980's AX.25 Packet FM and even with a 1 inch stub antenna the 
SDX transponder has pointed the way ahead for linear transponders of the future.

73 Trevor M5AKA

--- On Sun, 11/9/11, Bill Ress  wrote:

> From: Bill Ress 
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Yin and Yang
> To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
> Date: Sunday, 11 September, 2011, 19:57
> Hi Clint,
> 
> I applaud and appreciate your efforts to demonstrate
> satellite 
> communications and in particular your rebuttal to the
> detractors of 
> ARISSat-1.
> 
> As the designer and builder of the ARISSat-1 U/V
> transponder, I'm 
> thrilled that it is performing well on the VHF downlink and
> pretty darn 
> good on the UHF uplink with just an inch or so of antenna
> exposed.
> 
> So naturally it sticks in my throat when a few out there
> just don't, and 
> probably never will, appreciate the many, many volunteer
> hours spent by 
> the ARISSat-1 team designing, building and testing the
> satellite. But I 
> know the AMSAT team won't let a few dunder-heads slow down
> the momentum 
> for the next satellite project - FOX.
> 
> Again thanks for speaking up and for your many volunteer
> hours spreading 
> our mission.
> 
> Regards...Bill - N6GHz
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/11/2011 11:15 AM, Clint Bradford wrote:
> > I stayed up all night Friday preparing printouts and
> stuff for the ARRL SW Division Convention. Left the house at
> 6:30am - to get there for our first of five sat passes at
> 7:47am. Worked five passes in front of folks. Performed my
> sat show for 90 minutes in front of a standing-room-only
> group of eighty-two. It was a non-stop flurry of activity.
> Had a GREAT time. Voice gone ... "convention legs" (you
> know, those muscles behind your shins get really sore -
> muscles that you usually never know are there ... (grin)).
> >
> > Got home about 10pm. Checked email. Six messages from
> show attendees, thanking me for everything. I quickly
> scanned the AMSAT-BB, QRZ.com, and eHam.net - and found a
> reply to a message I had written in a thread last week that
> really set me off. Someone mentioned that ARISSat-1 was
> "crippled" and of no use ... I replied by listing its
> intended modes, and the fact that all is working pretty
> darned as expected. We've even taxed a battery that was only
> rated at 5 discharge-charge cycles ... "But it is all
> working," I wrote.
> >
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >
> > Not really...it has become a piece of space junk very
> quickly. Deploying without the correct antenna and a crappy
> battery is an example of where our space program has gone. A
> sat that is in faliure mode only days after deployment.
> Donate more to AMSAT, we might get another piece or two of
> space junk in orbit before the ISS falls out of orbit.
> >
> > /s/
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >
> > Well, I THOUGHT I was going to bed quickly. No way was
> I going to let that go unanswered overnight:
> >
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >
> >>> ... it has become a piece of space junk very
> quickly ...
> >
> > I'll tell that to the 45 folks who witnessed/heard it
> this afternoon at the ARRL SW Division Convention in
> Torrance, CA. They will be so glad to be enlightened by your
> comment. They THOUGHT it was exciting hearing that 250mW
> signal and getting amped up about amateur sat comms this
> morning. But according to you, they are all wrong ...
> >
> >>> ... Deploying without the correct antenna ...
> >
> > Yet working marvelously - a true testament to
> thoseĀ  who built the satellite.
> >
> >>> ... and a crappy battery ...
> >
> > The battery is exactly what was planned for - and
> anyone knowledgeable with the project knew its limitations.
> It was subjected to a very different charging regimen - as
> opposed to its expected rating of "five" discharge-charge
> cycles. If anyone calls the battery aspect of this project a
> "failure" then they have no clue as to what they are talking
> about. The battery was designed for Russian spacesuits and
> EVAs - seemed OK for that type of work to those who are
> responsible for the lives of their Cosmonauts.
> >
> >>> ... is an example of where our space program
> has gone ...
> >
> > Uh, this is an amateur radio project - with a Russian
> educational project on board. Where does NASA - "our space
> program" fail?
> >
> > We deployed an experiment over a month ago that is to
> this hour working well. This was never meant to be a
> long-term project.
> >
> > I am responsible for AMSAT receiving $1175 so far for
> this project. I do not remember se

[amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 6, Issue 517

2011-09-11 Thread Edwin M. "EMike" McCardel, KC8YLD
I would like to announce and congratulate, AMSAT member, Zack Beougher,
KD8KSN (EN80) for being honored as ARRL Great Lakes' Division, Young Radio
Amateur of the Year.

This is great honor for Zack, and it speaks well for the future of AMSAT,
having such a fine young man in our midst,

Congratulations Zach!

E. Michael McCardel, KC8YLD
Ohio Section Affiliated Club Coordinator, ARRL

NO CODE REQUIRED
When All Else Fails... There's Amateur Radio
Learn more via www.ARRL.org
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[amsat-bb] Re: NW2C 911- SPECIAL EVENT STATION

2011-09-11 Thread Dee
Good going, Pete.

I was at a 9/11 memorial service in Bergen county NJ with the
community band I belong to so I couldn,t get on the air--
73,
Dee

-Original Message-
From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org]
On Behalf Of Peter Portanova
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 1:59 PM
To: AMSAT-BB@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] NW2C 911- SPECIAL EVENT STATION

Good Afternoon,

I have been invited, WB2OQQ, to operate a portable satellite station
on 
September 11th, using the call NW2C, at Historic Fort Totten, located
in 
Bayside New York, only a few miles from ground zero.  Fort Totten was
one of 
many placed used in recovery and healing during 911.

I will operate all FM satellite passes from 12 noon to 6pm EDT, 
1600, -2200z.  For those that make a confirmed satellite contact and
wish to 
receive a Certificate of Confirmation, visit
http://www.nw2c.org/911.html, 
for all the details, NW2C will also be operating on the general bands,
check 
clusters for frequency updates.

I look forward to demonstrating how our amateur satellites, can be
utilized 
as another communications possibility in a crisis, let's put on a good
show 
for the very special people that will be invited to this 911 event,
thank 
you.

73's Pete
WB2OQQ
www.massapequanyweather.com



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