[amsat-bb] Re: AO40 replacement !!!

2012-09-06 Thread Trevor .
--- On Wed, 5/9/12, Diane Bruce d...@db.net wrote:
 Piece of wire driven by some electricity works well enough.
 No need for big pyro explosions.

Yes and the TetherSat CubeSat should be testing out exactly that next year, see 

http://www.uk.amsat.org/9165 

73 Trevor M5AKA




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[amsat-bb] TechEdSat - Iridium and Orbcomm?

2012-09-06 Thread Trevor .
There's just been a comment posted on the AMSAT-UK website from Henry which 
says: 

Iridium and Orbcomm have been dropped from TechEdSat (wires cut) for 
regulatory reasons.

I must admit I had wondered about the satellite transmitting from space on 
frequencies allocated to ground stations. Does anyone have any further 
information ?

73 Trevor M5AKA


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[amsat-bb] Homemade Satellites in Bloomberg Businessweek

2012-09-06 Thread Trevor .
About Sandy Antunes. (He used Kickstarter to raise the funds for an amateur 
radio ground station to receive his Interorbital Systems TubeSat).

Why Yes, It Is Time for Homemade Satellites 
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-09-05/why-yes-it-is-time-for-homemade-satellites

73 Trevor M5AKA


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[amsat-bb] Re: satellite activity and future sats...

2012-09-06 Thread Thomas Doyle
Hi -

Thanks so much for your post. Many of us have been in this so long we
have completely lost touch with the needs of the new ham. You have
described the greatest needs in the sat hobby. Unfortunately we are
heading in a direction where we are suppose to create materials to
educate high school youth when we do not have even basic materials to
educate our own new sat users. Many old timers will say there is lots
of material out there and there is but it is very basic. There are
hundreds of great videos showing how to wave an Arrow antenna around
and make a contact but beyond that - not much. Unfortunately the
learning curve gets very steep very fast. Thanks again for taking the
time to share your insights. We need someone like you on the board.

tnx  73 W9KE Tom Doyle



On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Michael Adams m...@n1en.org wrote:
 Despite my callsign, I am a relatively new hamand I am very, very new
 to the birds.   I'm also new to the reflector, so please forgive any
 naïvete I exhibit.

 I wonder if what you're seeing is a generational shift, or at least a shift
 in the direction by which new hams are finding their way into the hobby
 (and the skills and interests they bring to the table), because there are
 plenty of new hams out there.

 Many of the new hams I've run into have either gotten involved in the hobby
 for emcomm purposes, or at least found emcomm early on their path (the
 latter is true for me).  Some of them expand on from emcomm as they are
 introduced to other aspects of the hobby.   I fell into satellite work by
 starting out playing with APRS and Winlink-over-packet.   Then I learned
 about the ISS digipeater...and I realized that the challenge of trying to
 complete a contact during an 8-minute pass is kind of fun, and didn't
 require any equipment that I didn't already have.   Then at Field Day, I
 got to see a demonstration of working AO-27.  That looked like fun, so I
 got an Elk, plugged it into my spare HT, and a few minutes later heard an
 XE station calling as SO-50 rose above the horizon.   That was cool, even
 if the neighbors think I looked nuts standing in the driveway, juggling an
 antenna, mic, and voice recorder, with an HT over-filling a shirt pocket.

 I suspect that a sizeable proportion of the new ham population would be
 considered appliance operators, or at least they assemble and operate
 their stations with more of a hacker's mentality, rather than following the
 classic homebrew path.  Personally, my fabrication skills suck, but I love
 finding new ways to use/abuse computers and equipment that I find.
  Building a tape-measure beam is certainly within my skillset, but building
 a complete setup of satellite antennas, with az/el rotor...it wouldn't be
 impossible for me, but I'd need a really strong incentive to do so (and
 even then, I'd probably keep an eye out, looking to see if I could buy,
 rather than build).   When I look through what I'd need to do to be able to
 move beyond AO-27, SO-50, and the ISS...it seems like a lot of work (or
 expense), without too many opportunities to enjoy the effort.   I'll
 probably do it someday, assuming the satellites are still operational, but
 there are plenty of items that are on my to try list that have a better
 ratio of (probable fun):(erg of effort or dollar of expense).

 Also, I trust you're aware of what transceivers are on the market.  While
 shack-in-the-boxes are not uncommon, there are only a couple of rigs being
 sold new that look really good for non-FM satellite work, neither of which
 really mesh well into the other-interests/budget decision-making process.
 I dislike the TS-2000 for various reasons, and the IC-9100 is a lot of
 money for the limited additional utility I'd get out of it.   My starter
 rig was an IC-7000, which does have VHF and UHF sideband, but it's
 full-duplex machine, and working uplink-and-downlink doppler adjustments on
 it is a pain.   I think other entry-level VHF/UHF sideband capable rigs are
 similarly challenged.   I occasionally look around to see what's available
 usedbut here too the how much will I have to spend, and what
 additional fun will I get out of it factor comes into play.  I'm sure the
 major manufacturers (or even some not-so-major manufacturers) would put new
 gear on the market if there were demand...but where's the demand?

 Add in the other complications at my location (an inconveniently-placed
 hill, lots of trees, an XYL who has opinions about aesthetics), and I
 percieve a big hurdle to move beyond the FM birds.

 So; why do I mention all this?

 First, count me among the they in build it and they will come.   None
 of my station challenges are insurmountable; I just haven't had enough
 motivation to tackle those challenges.  Get a few more satellites up and
 have activity on them, or put up something in a molniya orbit, and my
 motivation level will increase significantly.  I suspect other potentially
 interested folks have similar 

[amsat-bb] Fw: Digital Slow Scan in space

2012-09-06 Thread Graham Shirville



Hi All,

We are looking for a practical system to use on a 1U, or perhaps 2U, cubesat to 
take medium definition images and transmit them to the ground on VHF for 
educational outreach purposes.

All the usual cubesat mass, power, data budgets would apply but and I would 
especially appreciate advice and guidance about the best type of digital slow 
scan (or similar) system to adopt.

I am aware of the SSDV system used on some balloon flights  
http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:ssdv

Thanks in advance for all comments ideas and observations and especially any 
offers of support!

73

Graham
G3VZV

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[amsat-bb] Re: AO-40 Replacement

2012-09-06 Thread Armando Mercado


- Original Message - 
From: Mark L. Hammond marklhamm...@gmail.com

To: Armando Mercado am25...@triton.net
Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-40 Replacement



Reading on a bit in that transcript...

Our second goal is to develop and test a new spacecraft, the crew
exploration vehicle, by 2008, and to conduct the first manned mission
no later than 2014.
The crew exploration vehicle will be capable of ferrying astronauts
and scientists to the space station after the shuttle is retired. But
the main purpose of this spacecraft will be to carry astronauts beyond
our orbit to other worlds. This will be the first spacecraft of its
kind since the Apollo command module.
Our third goal is to return to the moon by 2020, as the launching
point for missions beyond.

So where do we stand on those goals, and to whom is credit/blame placed?

This is almost fun ;)

Mark N8MH

On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Armando Mercado am25...@triton.net 
wrote:

Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 11:15:35 -0500
From: Kevin Muenzler ke...@eaglecreekobservatory.org
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO40 replacement !!!
Message-ID: 003101cd8b81$ae8e3610$0baaa230$@org




I can understand that!


What I meant was that it could be launched as so many have been 
launched -- from the shuttle cargo bay.  But, no more shuttles...Mr. 
Obama gave them all away. :(


---


Hello,

Nothing like an AO-40 discussion to liven up the mail list.
Not to get into politics, but the above statement is incorrect.

Jan. 14, 2004, President Bush gave a speech on America's new vision for 
space

exploration,  In part he said...

...The Shuttle's chief purpose over the next several years will be to 
help finish
assembly of the International Space Station. In 2010, the Space 
Shuttle -- after

nearly 30 years of duty -- will be retired from service...

The shuttle last flight was July 8,2011, after the current administration 
approved the

flight of STS-135, using the last flight ready SRB's and external tank.

Transcript of the speech can be found at:

http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/54868main_bush_trans.pdf

73 Armando, N8IGJ





From AO-40 replacement to US space policy...


The Columbia Accident Investigation Board, (CAIB), determined
that the shuttles were actually experimental vehicles being flown
as if they were operational vehicles.  The aging shuttles had so
many design/architectural flaws that they could never be made
safe fly.  So the correct decision was to retire them.

Sadly, with 6+ years of advance notice the shuttle would retire,
the US currently does not have a way to send astronauts into
space (other than buying seats on the Soyuz).

The history of this predicament is long and tortured, but
essentially comes down to flat budgets.  NASA had to
retire the shuttle to free up funds to develop a follow on
vehicle.  In the past several years, COTS, Commercial
Off  The Shelf, has shown great promise.  SpaceX is
probably the closest to having a manned capsule ready.

So, who get credit/blame..?  It is said support for the space
program is broad... a mile wide and an inch deep.
Ultimately a disinterested public gets what it deserves.

73, Armando N8IGJ









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[amsat-bb] Re: satellite activity and future sats...

2012-09-06 Thread Tony Langdon

At 12:47 AM 9/7/2012, Thomas Doyle wrote:

Hi -

Thanks so much for your post. Many of us have been in this so long we
have completely lost touch with the needs of the new ham. You have
described the greatest needs in the sat hobby. Unfortunately we are
heading in a direction where we are suppose to create materials to
educate high school youth when we do not have even basic materials to
educate our own new sat users. Many old timers will say there is lots
of material out there and there is but it is very basic. There are
hundreds of great videos showing how to wave an Arrow antenna around
and make a contact but beyond that - not much. Unfortunately the
learning curve gets very steep very fast. Thanks again for taking the
time to share your insights. We need someone like you on the board.


As someone who has written an introductory article or two myself, I 
am inclined to agree.  There is a lot of material that shows how easy 
it is to work your first satellite, but not a lot of where to go 
from here.  What would be nice is a tutorial which starts at working 
your first FM sat with a HT and portable antenna, then goes through 
from there in stages right through to fully automated stations 
capable of working a future HEO or fully automated operation on 
pacsats, among other things.


73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com

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[amsat-bb] AO-10 and AO-16

2012-09-06 Thread Gary Joe Mayfield
Has anyone checked on AO-10 or AO-16 lately?

 

73,

Joe kk0sd

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