[amsat-bb] Re: Mount an Arrow on rotator with 2m vertical or horizontal
Hi Don, I have mine mounted with 2m elements horizontal, because that's how it seems I used it most when it was handheld. Lee W5LMM Don Hoover (WS4E) wrote: Just wondering, should I mount my arrow with the 2m elements oriented vertical or horizontal? I am planning on putting it at 15deg and just using a az rotator. Does it even matter which way its oriented since the polarity of the sats are always changing? Maybe I should mount it like this: / instead. Just curious what some thought was the best way to go. ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb -- ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Mount an Arrow on rotator with 2m vertical or horizontal
Hi Don, Here is me, thinking out loud--- Think of the secondary useIf you want to use the array for local FM repeaters, go vertical. If you want to use it for SSB contacts, go horizontal. 73, Mark N8MH On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Don Hoover (WS4E) wrote: > Just wondering, should I mount my arrow with the 2m elements oriented > vertical or horizontal? > > I am planning on putting it at 15deg and just using a az rotator. > > Does it even matter which way its oriented since the polarity of the sats > are always changing? > > Maybe I should mount it like this: / instead. > > Just curious what some thought was the best way to go. > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > -- Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: TH-F6A capable of full-duplex satellite operation?
Burns, > I hope I have not been missing something major on my Kenwood TH-F6 HT, but > I don't think it does full duplex. You can receive two channels > simultaneously, yes. But I don't believe you can transmit on one while > simultaneously listening on the other. That's the capability that you need > to confirm you can "hear yourself" and confirm that you are reaching the > satellite and the sat is sending your voice back to you. > > If I'm wrong about the TH-F6a that would be a bummer! I'm looking for an > excuse to replace it with a TH-D72a > > You now have your excuse to get the TH-D72A. :-) The TH-F6A has two VFOs, but it is not capable of cross-band full-duplex operation for the satellites. You might want to hold onto the TH-F6A, even if you get a TH-D72A. The TH-F6A has an all-mode receiver, which could be paired up with something like an FT-817 to make a small station capable of all-mode, full-duplex satellite operation. The TH-F6A's non-FM receiver is not as sensitive nor as selective as other radios like an FT-817, but the FT-817/TH-F6A combination makes for a nice station to show off at demonstrations. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 8, Issue 117
Hi, I hope I have not been missing something major on my Kenwood TH-F6 HT, but I don't think it does full duplex. You can receive two channels simultaneously, yes. But I don't believe you can transmit on one while simultaneously listening on the other. That's the capability that you need to confirm you can "hear yourself" and confirm that you are reaching the satellite and the sat is sending your voice back to you. If I'm wrong about the TH-F6a that would be a bummer! I'm looking for an excuse to replace it with a TH-D72a 73, Burns W2BFJ > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 09:52:59 -0500 > From: "ac4ny_1" > To: > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: The Ham Radio Bucket List > Message-ID: <001101ce39e8$eedf2380$ > e301a8c0@joe8b7a02056b7> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Bob: > > I use a Yaesu FT-60r with a homebrew handheld 3 element loop yagi. I only > work half duplex. For full duplex I use a Baofeng UV3R (cheap but does > work). The Kenwood TH-F6A is great. Make sure the HT will do cross band. > Also use a good duplexer. > There are many other great radios out there and a lot more operators on > here > that has more insight than I. > I been on the birds since 2000. Licensed since 1979. > I work the birds as much as my work sked will allow. > 73 > Joe...AC4NY > EM73dp > > (My neighbors thinks I lost it; running around the yard with a handheld > > antenna)! > > - Original Message - > From: "Robert Garceau" > To: "'ac4ny_1'" > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 7:09 AM > Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: The Ham Radio Bucket List > > > > Hi Joe: > > > > I have been following this thread and have a few questions. > > I have been in ham radio for 50 years. And, yep, satellite radio has been > > on > > my "I got to do this" list. > > > > Can you suggest a good HT? > > I have my antenna picked out and that's the arrow. > ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Mount an Arrow on rotator with 2m vertical or horizontal
Just wondering, should I mount my arrow with the 2m elements oriented vertical or horizontal? I am planning on putting it at 15deg and just using a az rotator. Does it even matter which way its oriented since the polarity of the sats are always changing? Maybe I should mount it like this: / instead. Just curious what some thought was the best way to go. ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: The Ham Radio Bucket List
On 04/15/13 09:34, i8cvs wrote: On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Les Rayburn wrote: I wasted 35+ years on HFman, all the fun really is in the World Above 50 MHz! Thanks for helping to make a boys dreams come true at age 51! -- 73, Les Rayburn, N1LF 121 Mayfair Park Maylene, AL 35114 EM63nf Hi Les, N1LF I completely disagree with your statement "that you wasted 35+years on HF" because in my opinion the HF are fundamental to get technical and operational experience to come face to face in the future above 50 MHz. Please remember that your actual expertice above 50 MHz was born because of your previous 35+years activity on HF. Read please my similar Ham Radio history from the HF and up in QRZ.com http://www.qrz.com/db/I8CVS Best 73" de i8CVS Domenico (81 years old and 58 years of Ham Radio from HF to Microwave) A new religious war! I had never thought of this one. Let the acolytes gather... --STeve Andre' wb8wsf en72 ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: The Ham Radio Bucket List
Hi Bob: I use a Yaesu FT-60r with a homebrew handheld 3 element loop yagi. I only work half duplex. For full duplex I use a Baofeng UV3R (cheap but does work). The Kenwood TH-F6A is great. Make sure the HT will do cross band. Also use a good duplexer. There are many other great radios out there and a lot more operators on here that has more insight than I. I been on the birds since 2000. Licensed since 1979. I work the birds as much as my work sked will allow. 73 Joe...AC4NY EM73dp (My neighbors thinks I lost it; running around the yard with a handheld antenna)! - Original Message - From: "Robert Garceau" To: "'ac4ny_1'" Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 7:09 AM Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: The Ham Radio Bucket List Hi Joe: I have been following this thread and have a few questions. I have been in ham radio for 50 years. And, yep, satellite radio has been on my "I got to do this" list. Can you suggest a good HT? I have my antenna picked out and that's the arrow. Any help is most appreciated. Bob Garceau, W1EQ DXCC Honor Roll Triple Play Award #5 DXCC Challenge 2149 band/countries Ex. K1YRP, USA-CA All Counties #342 -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of ac4ny_1 Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 3:17 PM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: The Ham Radio Bucket List Welcome to the birds and keep up the good work! Working satellites is addictive. Hi Hi 73 Joe..AC4NY EM73dp (My neighbors thinks I lost it; running around the yard with a handheld antenna)! - Original Message - From: "Les Rayburn" To: Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 1:11 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] The Ham Radio Bucket List I've been a ham well over 40 years, since my childhood. Back then, I could barely afford the Heathkit transmitter, Halicrafters receiver, knife switch, and longwire antenna that made up my shack. My elmer used to let me borrow his copy of QST and I'd dream about all the great adventures that I'd have "someday" in ham radio. Being a child of the Space Age, key among them were anything related to the New Frontier. EME (Moonbounce), Meteor Scatter, and satellites all seemed like the stuff of science fiction---and I longed to experience them all. But they were exotic, and required equipment far beyond my reach. I resolved to accomplish them all someday and added them to a sort of ham radio "bucket list" that I hoped to accomplish before my ham career was over. Five years ago, shortly after getting started in weak signal VHF work, I checked off the first item on that list. Working meteor scatter contacts with the aid of WSJT software, and during a Perseid shower, even using SSB. What a thrill to make contacts off the ionized gasses of those tiny rocks. Thanks Joe Taylor! Tonight, I managed to check off a second. I worked Art, K4YYL on FO-29, a Japanese amateur satellite! My journey to the "birds" started about a month ago when I joined AMSAT, determined that 2013 was going to be "the year" when I finally got active on satellites. I purchased a copy of SATPC32 software, because I knew that it could control my IC-910H--hopefully making it easier to get active. After listening to a few passes on both the FM and the SSB/CW birds, I decided to try my luck on the less-crowded FO-29. A brief CQ was quickly answered by Art. I adjusted the tuning knob just a bit to correct for the Doppler effect, and voila! there he was clear as a bell. We had a brief QSO of perhaps ten minutes or so, and then we signed. I was quickly called by K4FEG near Memphis in EM55---who just wanted to welcome me to the birds! Man, what a thrill! And it wasn't tough at all. I'm using a 7 element 432 antenna tilted up to 15 degrees (fixed) and a 6 element 2 Meter beam tilted up to about 10 degrees (fixed) both inside my crowded attic. The SSB Electronics pre-amp helps a ton on 432, and the 1/2" hardline makes sure that I don't lose too much signal. So far, I've been able to copy the birds down to about 2 degrees above the horizon using this setup. Now to attempt that EME contact! I've got a 12 element Yagi just waiting to deploy in the driveway once the weather warms a bit. Hoping to use WSJT to work one of the monster stations on EME. All this in a deed-restricted HOA neighborhood. I wasted 35+ years on HFman, all the fun really is in the World Above 50 MHz! Thanks for helping to make a boys dreams come true at age 51! -- 73, Les Rayburn, N1LF 121 Mayfair Park Maylene, AL 35114 EM63nf 6M VUCC #1712 AMSAT #38965 Grid Bandits #222 Southeastern VHF Society Central States VHF Society Life Member Six Club #2484 Active on 6 Meters thru 1296, 10GHz & Light ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: The Ham Radio Bucket List
> On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Les Rayburn wrote: > I wasted 35+ years on HFman, all the fun really is in the World > Above 50 MHz! Thanks for helping to make > a boys dreams come true at age 51! > -- > 73, > Les Rayburn, N1LF > 121 Mayfair Park > Maylene, AL 35114 > EM63nf Hi Les, N1LF I completely disagree with your statement "that you wasted 35+years on HF" because in my opinion the HF are fundamental to get technical and operational experience to come face to face in the future above 50 MHz. Please remember that your actual expertice above 50 MHz was born because of your previous 35+years activity on HF. Read please my similar Ham Radio history from the HF and up in QRZ.com http://www.qrz.com/db/I8CVS Best 73" de i8CVS Domenico (81 years old and 58 years of Ham Radio from HF to Microwave) ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: [Tracking] PhoneSat launch April 17th! 437.425MHz
So no published telemetry format? 73, Drew KO4MA Sent from my iPhone On Apr 14, 2013, at 10:58 AM, Samudra Haque wrote: > Hello AMSAT community > > some hams have requested information about the upcoming Phonesat mission > telemetry format. This is a challenging objective for those who can track > and monitor: there are 3 satellites being deployed from the same P-POD and > will be released within moments of each other. The systems are timed to not > overlap individual station transmissions, so in a single pass, all three > should be heard. > > For any technical questions, please contact the POC, Oriol Tintore of > Phonesat. His contact info is below. > > 73 de N3RDX > > Oriol Tintore >> Aerospace Engineer >> PhoneSat Project, NASA Ames Research Center >> c: 650-215-0376 >> o: 650-604-2710 >> oriol.tintoregazu...@nasa.gov > > > >>> >>> -- Forwarded message -- >>> From: Wolfe, Jasper Lewis. (ARC-RD)[Stinger Ghaffarian Technologies Inc. >>> (SGT Inc.)] >>> Date: Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 3:05 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Tracking] PhoneSat launch April 17th! 437.425MHz >>> Cc: "Guillen Salas, Alberto (ARC-SST)[Stinger Ghaffarian Technologies Inc. >>> (SGT Inc.)]" , "Tintore Gazulla, Oriol >>> (ARC-TH)[Stinger Ghaffarian Technologies Inc. (SGT Inc.)]" < >>> oriol.tintoregazu...@nasa.gov> >>> >>> >>> Hello CubeSats and Amateur Radio Operators! >>> >>> The very first PhoneSat’s will be launching aboard the Antares on April >>> 17 >>> th at 1700 EDT (launch window to April 19th possibly further). We have >>> manifested 2x PhoneSat 1.0 and 1x PhoneSat 2.0 Beta. >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> >>> Our orbit is very low (270km x 300km 51.6deg) and we’ll only be up there >>> for 2 weeks! So we’re looking for as many people as possible to help with >>> tracking our satellites! >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> >>> If any of you are interested in tracking the satellite please let myself >>> (+the cc’d team) know – your help will be greatly appreciated! >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> All three satellites will be transmitting on *437.425MHz* and TLE’s + more >>> info can be found at www.phonesat.org – consolidated info sheet >>> attached.*** >>> * >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Feel free to tune-in and submit packets to www.phonesat.org >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Cheers! >>> >>> PhoneSat Project >>> >>> NASA ARC >>> >>> ** ** > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Fwd: Re: Fwd: [Tracking] PhoneSat launch April 17th! 437.425MHz
Hello AMSAT community some hams have requested information about the upcoming Phonesat mission telemetry format. This is a challenging objective for those who can track and monitor: there are 3 satellites being deployed from the same P-POD and will be released within moments of each other. The systems are timed to not overlap individual station transmissions, so in a single pass, all three should be heard. For any technical questions, please contact the POC, Oriol Tintore of Phonesat. His contact info is below. 73 de N3RDX Oriol Tintore > Aerospace Engineer > PhoneSat Project, NASA Ames Research Center > c: 650-215-0376 > o: 650-604-2710 > oriol.tintoregazu...@nasa.gov >> >> -- Forwarded message -- >> From: Wolfe, Jasper Lewis. (ARC-RD)[Stinger Ghaffarian Technologies Inc. >> (SGT Inc.)] >> Date: Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 3:05 PM >> Subject: Re: [Tracking] PhoneSat launch April 17th! 437.425MHz >> Cc: "Guillen Salas, Alberto (ARC-SST)[Stinger Ghaffarian Technologies Inc. >> (SGT Inc.)]" , "Tintore Gazulla, Oriol >> (ARC-TH)[Stinger Ghaffarian Technologies Inc. (SGT Inc.)]" < >> oriol.tintoregazu...@nasa.gov> >> >> >> Hello CubeSats and Amateur Radio Operators! >> >> The very first PhoneSat’s will be launching aboard the Antares on April >> 17 >> th at 1700 EDT (launch window to April 19th possibly further). We have >> manifested 2x PhoneSat 1.0 and 1x PhoneSat 2.0 Beta. >> >> ** ** >> >> >> Our orbit is very low (270km x 300km 51.6deg) and we’ll only be up there >> for 2 weeks! So we’re looking for as many people as possible to help with >> tracking our satellites! >> >> ** ** >> >> >> If any of you are interested in tracking the satellite please let myself >> (+the cc’d team) know – your help will be greatly appreciated! >> >> ** ** >> >> All three satellites will be transmitting on *437.425MHz* and TLE’s + more >> info can be found at www.phonesat.org – consolidated info sheet >> attached.*** >> * >> >> ** ** >> >> Feel free to tune-in and submit packets to www.phonesat.org >> >> ** ** >> >> Cheers! >> >> PhoneSat Project >> >> NASA ARC >> >> ** ** >> >> ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: The Ham Radio Bucket List
Welcome to the birds and keep up the good work! Working satellites is addictive. Hi Hi 73 Joe..AC4NY EM73dp (My neighbors thinks I lost it; running around the yard with a handheld antenna)! - Original Message - From: "Les Rayburn" To: Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 1:11 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] The Ham Radio Bucket List I've been a ham well over 40 years, since my childhood. Back then, I could barely afford the Heathkit transmitter, Halicrafters receiver, knife switch, and longwire antenna that made up my shack. My elmer used to let me borrow his copy of QST and I'd dream about all the great adventures that I'd have "someday" in ham radio. Being a child of the Space Age, key among them were anything related to the New Frontier. EME (Moonbounce), Meteor Scatter, and satellites all seemed like the stuff of science fiction---and I longed to experience them all. But they were exotic, and required equipment far beyond my reach. I resolved to accomplish them all someday and added them to a sort of ham radio "bucket list" that I hoped to accomplish before my ham career was over. Five years ago, shortly after getting started in weak signal VHF work, I checked off the first item on that list. Working meteor scatter contacts with the aid of WSJT software, and during a Perseid shower, even using SSB. What a thrill to make contacts off the ionized gasses of those tiny rocks. Thanks Joe Taylor! Tonight, I managed to check off a second. I worked Art, K4YYL on FO-29, a Japanese amateur satellite! My journey to the "birds" started about a month ago when I joined AMSAT, determined that 2013 was going to be "the year" when I finally got active on satellites. I purchased a copy of SATPC32 software, because I knew that it could control my IC-910H--hopefully making it easier to get active. After listening to a few passes on both the FM and the SSB/CW birds, I decided to try my luck on the less-crowded FO-29. A brief CQ was quickly answered by Art. I adjusted the tuning knob just a bit to correct for the Doppler effect, and voila! there he was clear as a bell. We had a brief QSO of perhaps ten minutes or so, and then we signed. I was quickly called by K4FEG near Memphis in EM55---who just wanted to welcome me to the birds! Man, what a thrill! And it wasn't tough at all. I'm using a 7 element 432 antenna tilted up to 15 degrees (fixed) and a 6 element 2 Meter beam tilted up to about 10 degrees (fixed) both inside my crowded attic. The SSB Electronics pre-amp helps a ton on 432, and the 1/2" hardline makes sure that I don't lose too much signal. So far, I've been able to copy the birds down to about 2 degrees above the horizon using this setup. Now to attempt that EME contact! I've got a 12 element Yagi just waiting to deploy in the driveway once the weather warms a bit. Hoping to use WSJT to work one of the monster stations on EME. All this in a deed-restricted HOA neighborhood. I wasted 35+ years on HFman, all the fun really is in the World Above 50 MHz! Thanks for helping to make a boys dreams come true at age 51! -- 73, Les Rayburn, N1LF 121 Mayfair Park Maylene, AL 35114 EM63nf 6M VUCC #1712 AMSAT #38965 Grid Bandits #222 Southeastern VHF Society Central States VHF Society Life Member Six Club #2484 Active on 6 Meters thru 1296, 10GHz & Light ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb Unusual Sleep Trick Scientists in Boston have revealed a natural sleep formula that would have everyone talking. Try it tonight. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/516b00a9bfd38a53171st01duc ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
