[amsat-bb] Re: Odd Question (answer)

2013-09-24 Thread Robert Bruninga
When the Earth image is about 4 across (8,000km), and the satellites are
one pixel across (say .001) then each dot is actually to scale a
spacecraft that is 8km wide.  Which is about 8000 times bigger in diameter
than a real spacecraft.

So what you are seeing is what space would look like if every one of our
satellies was the size of a EARTH-KILLER asteroid.

Actually the impact concern is the AREA so in effect, the 8000 times
smaller spacecraft are actually 64,000,000 times smaller in cross section
than the dot on the image.  (unless I made a stupid math error).

Bob, Wb4APR


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Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Odd Question

At 09:22 PM 9/23/2013, MICHAEL wrote:
For the longest time I have been wondering how a satellite is placed in
orbit without hitting anything else? I have seen pictures of all the
stuff circling the Earth and it just baffles me how anyone can get
anything in orbit  without hitting anything. Can anyone explain this?

Sure.  Those pictures you've been looking at are not drawn to scale.

The dots representing the satellites should be a lot smaller.  If they
were, you'd see there's a lot of space out there.

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[amsat-bb] DC and AMSAT Awards

2013-09-24 Thread Paul Stoetzer
Good morning,

I was curious about the rules for the the OSCAR Satellite Communications
Achievement Award, the OSCAR Sexagesimal Award, and the OSCAR Century Award.

The rules from KK5DO's website state that A contact is defined as one with
a station in another state, DXCC country or Canadian Provience. Once you
have a contact with a station in that area, you must hunt for another.

Furthermore, the rules also state that For those that have the RAC
CANDADAWARD or ARRL WAS with satellite endorsements, you may submit a copy
of your certificate as proof of working the 13 Canadian Proviences or 50
U.S. States.

Since Canada only has ten provinces, that implies that the three
territories also count under the definition of province.  Similarly, I
would argue that the definition of  state should also include the
District of Columbia as a separate entity since the precedent from counting
the Canadian territories as provinces is clear.

Does the District of Columbia count as a separate entity for the purposes
of these awards?

73,

Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
Washington, DC
AMSAT-NA #38,913
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[amsat-bb] Re: Odd Question (answer)

2013-09-24 Thread Davidoff, Martin R.
I don't know much about colliding dots but ..
 
The volume of space from surface of earth up to about 200 km is roughly 1 to 
the 20th (cubic meters).
The volume of a spherical spacecraft with a diameter of 5 meters (slightly 
larger than a cubesat) is about 500 (cubic meters).
Assuming 10,000 of these spacecraft orbiting earth (a bit of an overestimate) 
we have a total volume of 5 times 10 to the 6th (cubic meters).

At any instant the chance of randomly introducing a new object into an occupied 
position is on the order of 1/2 times 10 to the -13th power.

Of course I have omitted a few important details (and I haven't checked my 
arithmetic) but since this is about 10 to the 7th less than the odds of  being 
hit by lightening if one lives to be 100 I wouldn't worry about it too much 
(however, I would take reasonable precautions with lightening). 

K2ubc
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[amsat-bb] Re: Odd Question (answer-fixed)

2013-09-24 Thread Robert Bruninga
OOPS... Corrected...
---
When the Earth image is about 4 across (8,000km), and the satellites are
one pixel across (say .001) then each dot is actually to scale a
spacecraft that is 2km wide.  Which is about 4000 times bigger in diameter
than a real spacecraft.

So what you are seeing is what space would look like if every one of our
satellies was the size of a EARTH-KILLER asteroid.

Actually the impact concern is the AREA so in effect, the 4000 times
smaller spacecraft are actually 16,000,000 times smaller in cross section
than the dot on the image.  (unless I made another stupid math error).

Bob, Wb4APR


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Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 1:30 AM
To: MICHAEL
Cc: AMSAT-BB@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Odd Question

At 09:22 PM 9/23/2013, MICHAEL wrote:
For the longest time I have been wondering how a satellite is placed in
orbit without hitting anything else? I have seen pictures of all the
stuff circling the Earth and it just baffles me how anyone can get
anything in orbit  without hitting anything. Can anyone explain this?

Sure.  Those pictures you've been looking at are not drawn to scale.

The dots representing the satellites should be a lot smaller.  If they
were, you'd see there's a lot of space out there.

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[amsat-bb] Soyuz Launch Wednesday, September 25 on NASA TV

2013-09-24 Thread JoAnne Maenpaa
Here is a bit of time limited news which will occur before the next
news bulletins are released. Astronaut Mike Hopkins, KF5LJG, and
Russian cosmonauts Oleg Kotov and Sergey
Ryzanskiy will liftoff aboard a Soyuz Rocket on Wednesday, September
25.

NASA TV has published this schedule (all times in USA Eastern Daylight
Time UTC-4)

September 25, Wednesday

4 p.m. - ISS Expedition 37/38 Soyuz TMA-10M Launch Coverage (Launch
scheduled at 4:58 p.m. ET; includes video B-roll of the crew's
pre-launch
activities at 4:10 p.m. ET) - JSC via Baikonur, Kazakhstan (All
Channels)

7 p.m. - Video File of ISS Expedition 37/38 Soyuz TMA-10M Pre-Launch,
Launch
Video B-Roll and Post-Launch Interviews - JSC (All Channels)

10 p.m. - ISS Expedition 37/38 Soyuz TMA-10M Docking Coverage (Docking
scheduled at 10:48 p.m. ET) - JSC (All Channels)

September 26, Thursday
12 a.m. - ISS Expedition 37/38 Soyuz TMA-10M Hatch Opening and Other
Activities (Hatch Opening scheduled at 12:25 a.m. ET) - JSC via
Baikonur,
Kazakhstan (All Channels)

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2013-09-24 Thread F5GVA Claude
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[amsat-bb] Re: DC and AMSAT Awards

2013-09-24 Thread Bruce
If the FCC and ARRL would recognize the District of Columbia with its 
own prefix as the RAC has done with their provencies and territories 
then we should. However, until they do, it is included as a contact for 
Maryland.


Here is the list from RAC that they use for their contests.
Nova Scotia [NS] (VE1, VA1, CY9, CYØ);
Quebec [QC] (VE2, VA2);
Ontario [ON] (VE3, VA3);
Manitoba [MB] (VE4, VA4);
Saskatchewan [SK] (VE5, VA5);
Alberta [AB] (VE6, VA6);
British Columbia [BC] (VE7, VA7);
Northwest Territories [NT] (VE8);
New Brunswick [NB] (VE9);
Newfoundland and Labrador [NL] (VO1, VO2);
Nunavut [NU] (VYØ);
Yukon [YT] (VY1);
Prince Edward Island [PE] (VY2).

AMSAT chose to use the same list in their award since AMSAT-NA includes 
Canada.


Hope this helps.

73...bruce


On 9/24/2013 9:13 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:

Good morning,

I was curious about the rules for the the OSCAR Satellite Communications
Achievement Award, the OSCAR Sexagesimal Award, and the OSCAR Century Award.

The rules from KK5DO's website state that A contact is defined as one with
a station in another state, DXCC country or Canadian Provience. Once you
have a contact with a station in that area, you must hunt for another.

Furthermore, the rules also state that For those that have the RAC
CANDADAWARD or ARRL WAS with satellite endorsements, you may submit a copy
of your certificate as proof of working the 13 Canadian Proviences or 50
U.S. States.

Since Canada only has ten provinces, that implies that the three
territories also count under the definition of province.  Similarly, I
would argue that the definition of  state should also include the
District of Columbia as a separate entity since the precedent from counting
the Canadian territories as provinces is clear.

Does the District of Columbia count as a separate entity for the purposes
of these awards?

73,

Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
Washington, DC
AMSAT-NA #38,913
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[amsat-bb] Re: DC and AMSAT Awards

2013-09-24 Thread Paul Stoetzer
Bruce,

That an illogical argument. Only three states have their own prefixes:
Alaska, Hawaii, and California.

It also ignores the fact that the District of Columbia is not part of
Maryland. Incidentally, DC is the only top-level subdivision of the United
States or Canada that does not count as a separate entity for this award.

73,

Paul, N8HM


On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Bruce kk...@amsat.org wrote:

 If the FCC and ARRL would recognize the District of Columbia with its own
 prefix as the RAC has done with their provencies and territories then we
 should. However, until they do, it is included as a contact for Maryland.

 Here is the list from RAC that they use for their contests.
 Nova Scotia [NS] (VE1, VA1, CY9, CYØ);
 Quebec [QC] (VE2, VA2);
 Ontario [ON] (VE3, VA3);
 Manitoba [MB] (VE4, VA4);
 Saskatchewan [SK] (VE5, VA5);
 Alberta [AB] (VE6, VA6);
 British Columbia [BC] (VE7, VA7);
 Northwest Territories [NT] (VE8);
 New Brunswick [NB] (VE9);
 Newfoundland and Labrador [NL] (VO1, VO2);
 Nunavut [NU] (VYØ);
 Yukon [YT] (VY1);
 Prince Edward Island [PE] (VY2).

 AMSAT chose to use the same list in their award since AMSAT-NA includes
 Canada.

 Hope this helps.

 73...bruce



 On 9/24/2013 9:13 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:

 Good morning,

 I was curious about the rules for the the OSCAR Satellite Communications
 Achievement Award, the OSCAR Sexagesimal Award, and the OSCAR Century
 Award.

 The rules from KK5DO's website state that A contact is defined as one
 with
 a station in another state, DXCC country or Canadian Provience. Once you
 have a contact with a station in that area, you must hunt for another.

 Furthermore, the rules also state that For those that have the RAC
 CANDADAWARD or ARRL WAS with satellite endorsements, you may submit a copy
 of your certificate as proof of working the 13 Canadian Proviences or 50
 U.S. States.

 Since Canada only has ten provinces, that implies that the three
 territories also count under the definition of province.  Similarly, I
 would argue that the definition of  state should also include the
 District of Columbia as a separate entity since the precedent from
 counting
 the Canadian territories as provinces is clear.

 Does the District of Columbia count as a separate entity for the purposes
 of these awards?

 73,

 Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
 Washington, DC
 AMSAT-NA #38,913
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[amsat-bb] Re: DC and AMSAT Awards

2013-09-24 Thread Bruce
I took over processing the awards for AMSAT over 10 years ago and have 
processed it the same way the previous awards managers had done.


You are absolutely correct that DC does not count for this award because 
in creating our award, we used the ARRL worked all states award, the RAC 
worked all provinces award and the DXCC list to create our award. There 
is nothing in any of those awards that include District of Columbia and 
our award does not either.


Also, we do not include US Territories such as US Virgin Islands, Puerto 
Rico, and Guam and a couple other islands in our awards.


73...bruce

On 9/24/2013 11:24 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:

Bruce,

That an illogical argument. Only three states have their own prefixes:
Alaska, Hawaii, and California.

It also ignores the fact that the District of Columbia is not part of
Maryland. Incidentally, DC is the only top-level subdivision of the United
States or Canada that does not count as a separate entity for this award.

73,

Paul, N8HM


On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Bruce kk...@amsat.org wrote:


If the FCC and ARRL would recognize the District of Columbia with its own
prefix as the RAC has done with their provencies and territories then we
should. However, until they do, it is included as a contact for Maryland.

Here is the list from RAC that they use for their contests.
Nova Scotia [NS] (VE1, VA1, CY9, CYØ);
Quebec [QC] (VE2, VA2);
Ontario [ON] (VE3, VA3);
Manitoba [MB] (VE4, VA4);
Saskatchewan [SK] (VE5, VA5);
Alberta [AB] (VE6, VA6);
British Columbia [BC] (VE7, VA7);
Northwest Territories [NT] (VE8);
New Brunswick [NB] (VE9);
Newfoundland and Labrador [NL] (VO1, VO2);
Nunavut [NU] (VYØ);
Yukon [YT] (VY1);
Prince Edward Island [PE] (VY2).

AMSAT chose to use the same list in their award since AMSAT-NA includes
Canada.

Hope this helps.

73...bruce



On 9/24/2013 9:13 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:


Good morning,

I was curious about the rules for the the OSCAR Satellite Communications
Achievement Award, the OSCAR Sexagesimal Award, and the OSCAR Century
Award.

The rules from KK5DO's website state that A contact is defined as one
with
a station in another state, DXCC country or Canadian Provience. Once you
have a contact with a station in that area, you must hunt for another.

Furthermore, the rules also state that For those that have the RAC
CANDADAWARD or ARRL WAS with satellite endorsements, you may submit a copy
of your certificate as proof of working the 13 Canadian Proviences or 50
U.S. States.

Since Canada only has ten provinces, that implies that the three
territories also count under the definition of province.  Similarly, I
would argue that the definition of  state should also include the
District of Columbia as a separate entity since the precedent from
counting
the Canadian territories as provinces is clear.

Does the District of Columbia count as a separate entity for the purposes
of these awards?

73,

Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
Washington, DC
AMSAT-NA #38,913
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[amsat-bb] Re: DC and AMSAT Awards

2013-09-24 Thread Paul Stoetzer
The Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, Guam, etc. all count as separate entities
for these awards as DXCC entities.

I find it ironic that an organization that is incorporated in the District
of Columbia and had it's first headquarters in the District of Columbia
would not recognize that the District of Columbia is a separate and
distinct entity that is not part of the State of Maryland.

73,

Paul, N8HM


On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Bruce kk...@amsat.org wrote:

 I took over processing the awards for AMSAT over 10 years ago and have
 processed it the same way the previous awards managers had done.

 You are absolutely correct that DC does not count for this award because
 in creating our award, we used the ARRL worked all states award, the RAC
 worked all provinces award and the DXCC list to create our award. There is
 nothing in any of those awards that include District of Columbia and our
 award does not either.

 Also, we do not include US Territories such as US Virgin Islands, Puerto
 Rico, and Guam and a couple other islands in our awards.

 73...bruce


 On 9/24/2013 11:24 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:

 Bruce,

 That an illogical argument. Only three states have their own prefixes:
 Alaska, Hawaii, and California.

 It also ignores the fact that the District of Columbia is not part of
 Maryland. Incidentally, DC is the only top-level subdivision of the United
 States or Canada that does not count as a separate entity for this award.

 73,

 Paul, N8HM


 On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Bruce kk...@amsat.org wrote:

  If the FCC and ARRL would recognize the District of Columbia with its own
 prefix as the RAC has done with their provencies and territories then we
 should. However, until they do, it is included as a contact for Maryland.

 Here is the list from RAC that they use for their contests.
 Nova Scotia [NS] (VE1, VA1, CY9, CYØ);
 Quebec [QC] (VE2, VA2);
 Ontario [ON] (VE3, VA3);
 Manitoba [MB] (VE4, VA4);
 Saskatchewan [SK] (VE5, VA5);
 Alberta [AB] (VE6, VA6);
 British Columbia [BC] (VE7, VA7);
 Northwest Territories [NT] (VE8);
 New Brunswick [NB] (VE9);
 Newfoundland and Labrador [NL] (VO1, VO2);
 Nunavut [NU] (VYØ);
 Yukon [YT] (VY1);
 Prince Edward Island [PE] (VY2).

 AMSAT chose to use the same list in their award since AMSAT-NA includes
 Canada.

 Hope this helps.

 73...bruce



 On 9/24/2013 9:13 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:

  Good morning,

 I was curious about the rules for the the OSCAR Satellite Communications
 Achievement Award, the OSCAR Sexagesimal Award, and the OSCAR Century
 Award.

 The rules from KK5DO's website state that A contact is defined as one
 with
 a station in another state, DXCC country or Canadian Provience. Once you
 have a contact with a station in that area, you must hunt for another.

 Furthermore, the rules also state that For those that have the RAC
 CANDADAWARD or ARRL WAS with satellite endorsements, you may submit a
 copy
 of your certificate as proof of working the 13 Canadian Proviences or 50
 U.S. States.

 Since Canada only has ten provinces, that implies that the three
 territories also count under the definition of province.  Similarly, I
 would argue that the definition of  state should also include the
 District of Columbia as a separate entity since the precedent from
 counting
 the Canadian territories as provinces is clear.

 Does the District of Columbia count as a separate entity for the
 purposes
 of these awards?

 73,

 Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
 Washington, DC
 AMSAT-NA #38,913
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[amsat-bb] Another brilliant idea!

2013-09-24 Thread DJ Nise
I understand that the AmSat BB is 99% serious business. I think it's time to 
lighten the mood a bit.

 

I'm going to (try to) fund a new project. I want to place a satellite with a 
full-sized 160m beam into orbit. I want this thing to be highly polished or 
plated in Chrome. (It will put the Russian space mirror to shame), and be 
visible during daylight hours. 

 

I think the flares will catch the interest of people, and draw them into this 
insane hobby.

 

How's that for a dumb idea?

 

(I'll shut up now...)
  
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[amsat-bb] Re: Another brilliant idea!

2013-09-24 Thread Ted
Lighter if made of balsa and covered in silver Monokote...

TK
K7TRK

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Subject: [amsat-bb] Another brilliant idea!

I understand that the AmSat BB is 99% serious business. I think it's time to
lighten the mood a bit.

 

I'm going to (try to) fund a new project. I want to place a satellite with a
full-sized 160m beam into orbit. I want this thing to be highly polished
or plated in Chrome. (It will put the Russian space mirror to shame), and
be visible during daylight hours. 

 

I think the flares will catch the interest of people, and draw them into
this insane hobby.

 

How's that for a dumb idea?

 

(I'll shut up now...)
  
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[amsat-bb] Lots Of Rockets, Poor Reliability

2013-09-24 Thread B J
http://www.parabolicarc.com/2013/09/24/too-many-rockets-not-enough-dependability/

73s

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[amsat-bb] Re: Another brilliant idea!

2013-09-24 Thread M5AKA
 From: DJ Nise
 I'm going to (try to) fund a new project. 
 I want to place a satellite with a full-sized 160m beam into orbit.
 ...
 How's that for a dumb idea?

Wonderful, only drawback is that 160m isn't allocated to the Amateur Satellite 
Service ;-)

Of course that's true of all the LF allocations. There was an opportunity a few 
years ago to fly a 136 kHz payload with a 1 km long antenna but the lack of 
Amateur Satellite Service allocations made it a non-starter.

BTW does anyone know if there are any papers relating to the Amateur Satellite 
Service being discussed at this weeks IARU Region 2 Conference in Mexico ?

73 Trevor M5AKA
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[amsat-bb] Re: Another brilliant idea!

2013-09-24 Thread Angus McLeod

How many element?

On 09/24/2013 03:55 PM, DJ Nise wrote:

I want to place a satellite with a full-sized 160m beam into orbit.

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[amsat-bb] Re: Another brilliant idea!

2013-09-24 Thread JoAnne Maenpaa
 ... full-sized 160m beam into orbit ...

Reminds me of the two antennas who met up on the roof. They fell in
love and got married. The ceremony wasn't much but the reception was
fantastic ...

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM


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[amsat-bb] Re: Another brilliant idea!

2013-09-24 Thread Ng, Peter
Nice! ...may I suggest only the words AMSAT be chrome plated and studded with 
bright white LEDs :)

73 peter ve7ngp

-Original Message-
From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf 
Of DJ Nise
Sent: September 24, 2013 12:55
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Another brilliant idea!

I understand that the AmSat BB is 99% serious business. I think it's time to 
lighten the mood a bit.

 

I'm going to (try to) fund a new project. I want to place a satellite with a 
full-sized 160m beam into orbit. I want this thing to be highly polished or 
plated in Chrome. (It will put the Russian space mirror to shame), and be 
visible during daylight hours. 

 

I think the flares will catch the interest of people, and draw them into this 
insane hobby.

 

How's that for a dumb idea?

 

(I'll shut up now...)
  
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[amsat-bb] Re: Another brilliant idea!

2013-09-24 Thread Graham Shirville

Hi Trevor,

Yes we are discussing the removal of the downlink only restriction on 29MHz 
and the proposal to permit satellite linear transponder downlinks to operate 
at the bottom of the 144MHz band (just 22.5kHz though)


The meeting is still in session at this time

best 73

Graham
XE3/G3VZV





BTW does anyone know if there are any papers relating to the Amateur 
Satellite Service being discussed at this weeks IARU Region 2 Conference in 
Mexico ?


73 Trevor M5AKA
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[amsat-bb] Re: Odd Question (answer-fixed)

2013-09-24 Thread Joe Fitzgerald

On 9/24/2013 10:45 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote:

Actually the impact concern is the AREA
 Which leads to a surprising problem.  Suppose a cubesat at the end of 
it's mission deploys some sort of sail intended to increase atmospheric 
drag and shorten time to re-entry.  Good idea right? Maybe not, since 
you are potentially increasing the number of square-meter-years in 
orbit. From an overall risk perspective, it might be better to leave the 
smaller object in orbit longer.


-Joe KM1P
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