[amsat-bb] Re: Balloon mission from Austrian hams

2010-06-22 Thread i8cvs
- Original Message -
From: William Leijenaar pe1...@yahoo.com
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 12:03 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Balloon mission from Austrian hams

Hi AMSATs,

Last weekend I was in Austria for holidays, and on the Saterday there was a
high altitude balloon experiment done by Austrian hams which included a
known transponder to me ;-)
My location was near Landeck, some 350km west of the balloon experiment and
down in the valley, which made it impossible for me to work the transponder
(from my mobile ham station).

From the website I understand that the balloon experiment was successfull,
but I read some remarks that the transponder unfortunately was not used very
much.
Most propably because the event was not widely known amoung the hams.

What I understand, is that there will be another balloon mission on Saterday
(26-June) during the well known Ham Radio event in Friedrichshafen.
I will not be at the Ham Radio, but I like to pass on the news to other hams
who will be there and have a chance to listen/work the transponder or the
balloon APRS.

The balloon information can be found at the website of OEVSV:
http://www.oevsv.at/opencms/modules/news/20100621_ballon_passepartout_5_nach
lese_2010_graz.html?uri=/index.html


73 de PE1RAH,
William Leijenaar
www.leijenaarelectronics.nl

Hi William, PE1RAH

Congratulations !

It would be very interesting to know if your transponder was recovered at
the end of the flyght.

In Italy early in 1982-1984 we did three hight altitude balloon transponder
flights at 40.000 meters as a secondary AMSAT passenger on board of  high
altitude balloons with primary experiments of the italian CNR and french
CNES both governement research organizations.

The high altitude baloons were lifting from the airport of Milo Sicily and
were recovered near Huelva south of Spain after three days of flight
crossing the mediterranean at a maximum latitude over the Balearis islands.

The name of the joint CNR and CNES flyght mission was ODISSEA and
italian balloons were named  ULISSE, TELEMACO and PENELOPE i.e.
the name of three heros from the Omero's poem ODISSEA.

Our italian linear transponder was designed by i5TDJ (now SK) and it was
built  with fundings of ARI the Associazione Radioamatori Italiani ad it was
publiched with drawings and photos in four pages of the AMSAT newsletter
June 1978 Volume X- Numbar-2

I can send a copy of it to you and to everybody is interested on it.

Our three linear 100 mW transponder prototypes  were in Mode-A and in
Mode-B with a total bandwidth of 45 KHz but the 10.7 MHz IF was splitted
into three overlappd  sections 15 KHz each with three separate amplifiers
and with three separate AGC controls in order do not desense the full
bandwidth of 45 KHz in presence of one very strong signal falling into one
15 kHz wide IF amplifier.

During the flights at 40.000 km altitude many QSO's were made with the
balloon over the mediterranean area and the transponder never failed one
flyght.

Our linear transponder was recovered every time under CNR and CNES
command near Huelva south Spain and actually is still working as a linear
transponder on top of a mount in north of Italy.

Best 73 de

i8CVS Domenico




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[amsat-bb] Re: Balloon mission from Austrian hams

2010-06-22 Thread Viktor Kudielka
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 04:05:51PM +0200, i8cvs wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: William Leijenaar pe1...@yahoo.com
 To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 12:03 PM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] Balloon mission from Austrian hams
 
 Hi AMSATs,
 
 Last weekend I was in Austria for holidays, and on the Saterday there was a
 high altitude balloon experiment done by Austrian hams which included a
 known transponder to me ;-)
 My location was near Landeck, some 350km west of the balloon experiment and
 down in the valley, which made it impossible for me to work the transponder
 (from my mobile ham station).
 
 From the website I understand that the balloon experiment was successfull,
 but I read some remarks that the transponder unfortunately was not used very
 much.
 Most propably because the event was not widely known amoung the hams.
 
 What I understand, is that there will be another balloon mission on Saterday
 (26-June) during the well known Ham Radio event in Friedrichshafen.
 I will not be at the Ham Radio, but I like to pass on the news to other hams
 who will be there and have a chance to listen/work the transponder or the
 balloon APRS.
 
 The balloon information can be found at the website of OEVSV:
 http://www.oevsv.at/opencms/modules/news/20100621_ballon_passepartout_5_nach
 lese_2010_graz.html?uri=/index.html
 
 
 73 de PE1RAH,
 William Leijenaar
 www.leijenaarelectronics.nl
 
 Hi William, PE1RAH
 
 Congratulations !
 
 It would be very interesting to know if your transponder was recovered at
 the end of the flyght.
 
 In Italy early in 1982-1984 we did three hight altitude balloon transponder
 flights at 40.000 meters as a secondary AMSAT passenger on board of  high
 altitude balloons with primary experiments of the italian CNR and french
 CNES both governement research organizations.
 
 The high altitude baloons were lifting from the airport of Milo Sicily and
 were recovered near Huelva south of Spain after three days of flight
 crossing the mediterranean at a maximum latitude over the Balearis islands.
 
 The name of the joint CNR and CNES flyght mission was ODISSEA and
 italian balloons were named  ULISSE, TELEMACO and PENELOPE i.e.
 the name of three heros from the Omero's poem ODISSEA.
 
 Our italian linear transponder was designed by i5TDJ (now SK) and it was
 built  with fundings of ARI the Associazione Radioamatori Italiani ad it was
 publiched with drawings and photos in four pages of the AMSAT newsletter
 June 1978 Volume X- Numbar-2
 
 I can send a copy of it to you and to everybody is interested on it.
 
 Our three linear 100 mW transponder prototypes  were in Mode-A and in
 Mode-B with a total bandwidth of 45 KHz but the 10.7 MHz IF was splitted
 into three overlappd  sections 15 KHz each with three separate amplifiers
 and with three separate AGC controls in order do not desense the full
 bandwidth of 45 KHz in presence of one very strong signal falling into one
 15 kHz wide IF amplifier.
 
 During the flights at 40.000 km altitude many QSO's were made with the
 balloon over the mediterranean area and the transponder never failed one
 flyght.
 
 Our linear transponder was recovered every time under CNR and CNES
 command near Huelva south Spain and actually is still working as a linear
 transponder on top of a mount in north of Italy.
 
 Best 73 de
 
 i8CVS Domenico

Domenico, 

The payload including William's transponder was recovered two hours 
after splash-down in a montainous area covered completely with forest.
No GSM communication in that area - 6 different providers were 
under test ! Only the Global Star configuration was successful
in receiving the precise landing coordinates - a narrow trail
between 30 m high trees on both sides.
Three previous flights ended up always high up in trees and the
help of the fire brigades was needed - for cutting down the trees ;-) 

The next flight will be this weekend (Saturday, June 26) at the 
Ham Radio fair in Friedrichshafen. Planned height 28 km, not high
enough for Napoli - sorry !

Vy 73 de Viktor OE1VKW   

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