[amsat-bb] Re: European alligator on SO-50 (F2IL)

2012-05-30 Thread Tony Langdon

At 02:21 AM 5/31/2012, Eric Knaps, ON4HF wrote:
Today I wanted to use my arrow and portable to make a qso on SO-50. 
M6DNU (also portable) called me but it took 5 minutes to complete that contact.
F2IL was constantly calling cq on top of us. Do these guys even 
listen to the downlink??

Give portable stations also a change please! We only have 2 watts of rf power.
Where is the ham spirit these days?


I'd say he couldn't hear his own downlink.  That's certainly a common 
problem.  The best way to deal with these people is if you're within 
simplex range, call them up on the downlink frequency after the pass 
and give them a few pointers.  I've got a couple of people 
successfully working satellites that way.  Education works wonders. :)


And since you know his callsign, the other way of achieving the same 
is to send him an email with some friendly tips.


73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com

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[amsat-bb] Re: European alligator on SO-50 (F2IL)

2012-05-30 Thread i8cvs
Hi Eric, ON4HF

Before to call F2IL an European alligator and give bad publicity on
AMSAT-BB I suggest you to use more fair play and send to him
an email and explain to him the problem occurred to day on SO-50

As far I know my friend Jean Marie is an expert satellite operator
and I have with him many correct QSO's on all the linear birds.

Here is the email address of Jean Marie F2IL

f...@orange.fr

73 de

i8CVS Domenico

- Original Message -
From: Eric Knaps, ON4HF on...@telenet.be
To: Amsat - BBS amsat-bb@amsat.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 6:21 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] European alligator on SO-50 (F2IL)


 Today I wanted to use my arrow and portable to make a qso on SO-50.
 M6DNU (also portable) called me but it took 5 minutes to complete that
 contact.
 F2IL was constantly calling cq on top of us. Do these guys even listen
 to the downlink??
 Give portable stations also a change please! We only have 2 watts of rf
 power.
 Where is the ham spirit these days?
 73,
 Eric.

 --
 Amateur Radio Station ON4HF
 Eric Knaps
 Satellite manager UBA


 http://www.on4hf.be

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[amsat-bb] Re: European alligator on SO-50 (F2IL)

2012-05-30 Thread Stefan Wagener
Thanks Domenico,

a quick search on the web turns out some good information about the ability
of F2IL to work satellites. He has a great record and accomplishments. A
personal email enquiring about what was going on is a good way of building
each other up and not causing unnecessary conflict. We all can jump very
quickly to the wrong conclusions and cooler heads need to prevail.

To quote Clint: Well, I ask, WHEN did the true spirit of ham radio CHANGE
to the point where we can demean fellow hams in public message groups  -
WITHOUT simply contacting an offending ham privately to see if we could
help them with their system?

It is okay to share frustrations, let's work to make things better for all
of us.

Stefan, VE4NSA



On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:24 PM, i8cvs domenico.i8...@tin.it wrote:

 Hi Eric, ON4HF

 Before to call F2IL an European alligator and give bad publicity on
 AMSAT-BB I suggest you to use more fair play and send to him
 an email and explain to him the problem occurred to day on SO-50

 As far I know my friend Jean Marie is an expert satellite operator
 and I have with him many correct QSO's on all the linear birds.

 Here is the email address of Jean Marie F2IL

 f...@orange.fr

 73 de

 i8CVS Domenico

 - Original Message -
 From: Eric Knaps, ON4HF on...@telenet.be
 To: Amsat - BBS amsat-bb@amsat.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 6:21 PM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] European alligator on SO-50 (F2IL)


  Today I wanted to use my arrow and portable to make a qso on SO-50.
  M6DNU (also portable) called me but it took 5 minutes to complete that
  contact.
  F2IL was constantly calling cq on top of us. Do these guys even listen
  to the downlink??
  Give portable stations also a change please! We only have 2 watts of rf
  power.
  Where is the ham spirit these days?
  73,
  Eric.
 
  --
  Amateur Radio Station ON4HF
  Eric Knaps
  Satellite manager UBA
 
 
  http://www.on4hf.be
 
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