[amsat-bb] Re: Falcon 9 Engine Anomaly

2012-10-08 Thread Alan P. Biddle
According to a recent statement it did not explode.

http://spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=38825

Well, it didn't exactly explode.  :)

Anyway, a good show.

Alan
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[amsat-bb] Re: Falcon 9 Engine Anomaly

2012-10-08 Thread Joe

I noticed two things that I found interesting.

The amount of flames that were outside the engine nozzles. When i see 
flames like that it brings back memories of another flame where it 
should not have been. And the result of that flame.


The other thing I was totally thrown back by the temp of the nozzle on 
the second stage!  It was white hot all the time during burn.  Like WOW!


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On 10/8/2012 10:31 AM, R Oler wrote:

Greetings...there are engine problems and there are engine problems (grin).  "shutting one down" is 
one thing but one "coming apart" is another thing.  This is the first time "I" am aware 
of a vehicle going up the hill has had an engine come apart including mostly likely losing the engine 
nozzle...and the vehicle just keep on going.  if you are on facebook come to my page, I have some stills 
posted...

Robert Wb5MZO


Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 06:18:44 +
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Falcon 9 Engine Anomaly
From: va6...@gmail.com
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CC: amsat-bb@amsat.org

On 10/8/12, R Oler  wrote:

Yeah...about 1:20 just as they are going supersonic the number 1 engine
"rapidly disassembles"...it was hard to see this in real time but you knew
something was up when they announced a longer burn...26 seconds.

Having said that...I have been in a Boeing when the CF-6 on the starboard
wing threw blades and the kevlar there worked as well...so this is all in
all an impressive thing that they rolled past this and went on to orbit

but they will want to understand why (likely) the turbopump came apart
...you can in the picture see the nozzle in half and non directed
"flame"...

I dont know of another multi engine rocket that would have survived this.
the shuttle probably would not have.  Robert WB5MZO

I watched the launch on the Internet and didn't take much notice of
the problem others than the exhaust plume briefly expanding.

Apparently it 's not the first time the Falcon 9 had engine problems
during flight:

http://www.spacenews.com/civil/spacex-acknowledges-falcon-engine-anomaly-during-latest-launch.html

If I recall correctly, during one of the earlier space shuttle
missions, one of the main engines shut down early during launch but
the spacecraft still made it into orbit.

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL


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[amsat-bb] Re: Falcon 9 Engine Anomaly

2012-10-08 Thread R Oler

Yeah...about 1:20 just as they are going supersonic the number 1 engine 
"rapidly disassembles"...it was hard to see this in real time but you knew 
something was up when they announced a longer burn...26 seconds.

Having said that...I have been in a Boeing when the CF-6 on the starboard wing 
threw blades and the kevlar there worked as well...so this is all in all an 
impressive thing that they rolled past this and went on to orbit

but they will want to understand why (likely) the turbopump came apart ...you 
can in the picture see the nozzle in half and non directed "flame"...

I dont know of another multi engine rocket that would have survived this.  the 
shuttle probably would not have.  Robert WB5MZO

> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 05:13:00 +
> From: va6...@gmail.com
> To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Falcon 9 Engine Anomaly
> 
> http://nasawatch.com/archives/2012/10/spacex-crs-1-st.html
> 
> Additional video:
> 
> http://www.parabolicarc.com/2012/10/07/falcon-9-suffers-engine-anomoly/
> 
> 73s
> 
> Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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[amsat-bb] Re: Falcon 9 Engine Anomaly

2012-10-08 Thread R Oler

Greetings...there are engine problems and there are engine problems (grin).  
"shutting one down" is one thing but one "coming apart" is another thing.  This 
is the first time "I" am aware of a vehicle going up the hill has had an engine 
come apart including mostly likely losing the engine nozzle...and the vehicle 
just keep on going.  if you are on facebook come to my page, I have some stills 
posted...

Robert Wb5MZO

> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 06:18:44 +
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Falcon 9 Engine Anomaly
> From: va6...@gmail.com
> To: orbit...@hotmail.com
> CC: amsat-bb@amsat.org
> 
> On 10/8/12, R Oler  wrote:
> >
> > Yeah...about 1:20 just as they are going supersonic the number 1 engine
> > "rapidly disassembles"...it was hard to see this in real time but you knew
> > something was up when they announced a longer burn...26 seconds.
> >
> > Having said that...I have been in a Boeing when the CF-6 on the starboard
> > wing threw blades and the kevlar there worked as well...so this is all in
> > all an impressive thing that they rolled past this and went on to orbit
> >
> > but they will want to understand why (likely) the turbopump came apart
> > ...you can in the picture see the nozzle in half and non directed
> > "flame"...
> >
> > I dont know of another multi engine rocket that would have survived this.
> > the shuttle probably would not have.  Robert WB5MZO
> 
> I watched the launch on the Internet and didn't take much notice of
> the problem others than the exhaust plume briefly expanding.
> 
> Apparently it 's not the first time the Falcon 9 had engine problems
> during flight:
> 
> http://www.spacenews.com/civil/spacex-acknowledges-falcon-engine-anomaly-during-latest-launch.html
> 
> If I recall correctly, during one of the earlier space shuttle
> missions, one of the main engines shut down early during launch but
> the spacecraft still made it into orbit.
> 
> 73s
> 
> Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
  
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[amsat-bb] Re: Falcon 9 Engine Anomaly

2012-10-07 Thread B J
On 10/8/12, R Oler  wrote:
>
> Yeah...about 1:20 just as they are going supersonic the number 1 engine
> "rapidly disassembles"...it was hard to see this in real time but you knew
> something was up when they announced a longer burn...26 seconds.
>
> Having said that...I have been in a Boeing when the CF-6 on the starboard
> wing threw blades and the kevlar there worked as well...so this is all in
> all an impressive thing that they rolled past this and went on to orbit
>
> but they will want to understand why (likely) the turbopump came apart
> ...you can in the picture see the nozzle in half and non directed
> "flame"...
>
> I dont know of another multi engine rocket that would have survived this.
> the shuttle probably would not have.  Robert WB5MZO

I watched the launch on the Internet and didn't take much notice of
the problem others than the exhaust plume briefly expanding.

Apparently it 's not the first time the Falcon 9 had engine problems
during flight:

http://www.spacenews.com/civil/spacex-acknowledges-falcon-engine-anomaly-during-latest-launch.html

If I recall correctly, during one of the earlier space shuttle
missions, one of the main engines shut down early during launch but
the spacecraft still made it into orbit.

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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