[amsat-bb] Re: HRD software question
From the menu select Satellite, New Window and select a satellite. Do this for each satellite of interest. In any of the window click Show Tracks and select Selected. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: Randy rswa...@twcny.rr.com I just downloaded HRD and am having trouble figuring out How to look at more than one satelite at a time in the Satellite part of the program. ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: HRD software question
Thanks Simon. Any idea why, if I select SHOW TRACKS/ALL the prog locks up when Orbitron is capable of displaying the same number (85) of sats without slowing? What is the maximun number we can sensibly display Simon (HB9DRV) wrote: From the menu select Satellite, New Window and select a satellite. Do this for each satellite of interest. In any of the window click Show Tracks and select Selected. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: Randy rswa...@twcny.rr.com I just downloaded HRD and am having trouble figuring out How to look at more than one satelite at a time in the Satellite part of the program. ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.45/2285 - Release Date: 08/06/09 05:57:00 -- Nigel A. Gunn, 1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA. tel +1 937 825 5032 Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF), e-mail ni...@ngunn.net www http://www.ngunn.net Member of ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548, Flying Pigs QRP Club International #385, Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691, AMSAT-UK 0182, MKARS, ALC, GCARES, XWARN. ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: HRD software question
Hi, I guess it's something I've never really tried - will do so and fix. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF ni...@ngunn.net Any idea why, if I select SHOW TRACKS/ALL the prog locks up when Orbitron is capable of displaying the same number (85) of sats without slowing? What is the maximun number we can sensibly display ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: HRD software question
Thanks Simon. I guess it just stalls under the load. The windows title bar says not responding trying to close the program gives the familiar program not responding dialog box. Leave the computer for a bit and it eventually resumes tracking until any key is pressed then stalls again. I realise that simultaneously tracking 85 satellites is of little use but other programs seem to manage it. Simon (HB9DRV) wrote: Hi, I guess it's something I've never really tried - will do so and fix. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF ni...@ngunn.net Any idea why, if I select SHOW TRACKS/ALL the prog locks up when Orbitron is capable of displaying the same number (85) of sats without slowing? What is the maximun number we can sensibly display No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.45/2285 - Release Date: 08/06/09 05:57:00 -- Nigel A. Gunn, 1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA. tel +1 937 825 5032 Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF), e-mail ni...@ngunn.net www http://www.ngunn.net Member of ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548, Flying Pigs QRP Club International #385, Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691, AMSAT-UK 0182, MKARS, ALC, GCARES, XWARN. ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: HRD software question
Simon and all, I have been using V 4.1 Beta for a few months, and my sense is that all of the multitasking HRD requires is taxing the processor on my Acer Aspire One netbook beyond its capacity. I may be wrong about that, but I suspect that's what's going on. Simon, please correct me if this is wrong - but I believe that V 4.1 (beta) requires that radios be connected to the main HRD suite, and then also connected to the Satellite Tracker, in order to provide computer control for Doppler tuning. If that is, indeed, the case, I wonder whether it's possible to enable Satellite Tracker's radio-related functions without connection to HRD? I suspect that if I was able to connect my radios directly to Satellite Tracker without using HRD, that the netbook might be able handle the load. I enjoy Satellite Tracker very much, but it has locked up my computer at the very worst of times (e.g., just a few seconds before acquisition of AO-7 when I had a schedule with EA8AVI in an attempt to add Africa to my continents-worked list). I chose the netbook for my ham radio use because of its size, and because it was bundled with Windows XP, not Vista. I fear that the decision has me comitted to a computer with a processor that may not have enough muscle to do everything HRD/Satellite Tracker asks it to do. Regardless ... thank you so much for all of your work on HRD and Satellite Tracker. HRD is an amazing suite of software. 73 to all, Tim - N3TL Athens, Ga. - EM84ha -- Original message from Simon (HB9DRV) si...@hb9drv.ch: -- Hi, I guess it's something I've never really tried - will do so and fix. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF Any idea why, if I select SHOW TRACKS/ALL the prog locks up when Orbitron is capable of displaying the same number (85) of sats without slowing? What is the maximun number we can sensibly display ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: HRD software question
Which beta version of 4.1 are you using? I found that I had the same problem until 4.1 build 1985. Satellite stuff can be accessed without a rig hooked up. I did find that resources can really get eaten up by HRD when doing satellite stuff. If the description of HRD V5.0 is correct, it may ease up the overhead on computers by not trying to do so many things at once (some of which you may not need). Reid, W4UPD n...@bellsouth.net wrote: Simon and all, I have been using V 4.1 Beta for a few months, and my sense is that all of the multitasking HRD requires is taxing the processor on my Acer Aspire One netbook beyond its capacity. I may be wrong about that, but I suspect that's what's going on. Simon, please correct me if this is wrong - but I believe that V 4.1 (beta) requires that radios be connected to the main HRD suite, and then also connected to the Satellite Tracker, in order to provide computer control for Doppler tuning. If that is, indeed, the case, I wonder whether it's possible to enable Satellite Tracker's radio-related functions without connection to HRD? I suspect that if I was able to connect my radios directly to Satellite Tracker without using HRD, that the netbook might be able handle the load. I enjoy Satellite Tracker very much, but it has locked up my computer at the very worst of times (e.g., just a few seconds before acquisition of AO-7 when I had a schedule with EA8AVI in an attempt to add Africa to my continents-worked list). I chose the netbook for my ham radio use because of its size, and because it was bundled with Windows XP, not Vista. I fear that the decision has me comitted to a computer with a processor that may not have enough muscle to do everything HRD/Satellite Tracker asks it to do. Regardless ... thank you so much for all of your work on HRD and Satellite Tracker. HRD is an amazing suite of software. 73 to all, Tim - N3TL Athens, Ga. - EM84ha -- Original message from Simon (HB9DRV) si...@hb9drv.ch: -- Hi, I guess it's something I've never really tried - will do so and fix. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF Any idea why, if I select SHOW TRACKS/ALL the prog locks up when Orbitron is capable of displaying the same number (85) of sats without slowing? What is the maximun number we can sensibly display ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.45/2285 - Release Date: 08/06/09 05:57:00 ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: HRD software question
Hey Reid, Thanks for your note. Using the same package here - V 4.1, Build 1985. And yes, you can access Satellite Tracker without connecting radios to it - but you can't connect radios to it without ALSO connecting them to HRD. Therein could lie the problem. DM780 is useable without connecting radios to HRD. I routinely do that when I'm working digital modes in HF. My only interest in computer connection for Satellite Tracker is Doppler control. I would like to be able to connect directly to it and use it as a stand-alone without HRD involved. I believe that could/would solve the issues I experience here. 73, Tim - N3TL Athens, Ga. - EM84ha -- Original message from w4upd upd...@bristor-assoc.com: -- Which beta version of 4.1 are you using? I found that I had the same problem until 4.1 build 1985. Satellite stuff can be accessed without a rig hooked up. I did find that resources can really get eaten up by HRD when doing satellite stuff. If the description of HRD V5.0 is correct, it may ease up the overhead on computers by not trying to do so many things at once (some of which you may not need). Reid, W4UPD n...@bellsouth.net wrote: Simon and all, I have been using V 4.1 Beta for a few months, and my sense is that all of the multitasking HRD requires is taxing the processor on my Acer Aspire One netbook beyond its capacity. I may be wrong about that, but I suspect that's what's going on. Simon, please correct me if this is wrong - but I believe that V 4.1 (beta) requires that radios be connected to the main HRD suite, and then also connected to the Satellite Tracker, in order to provide computer control for Doppler tuning. If that is, indeed, the case, I wonder whether it's possible to enable Satellite Tracker's radio-related functions without connection to HRD? I suspect that if I was able to connect my radios directly to Satellite Tracker without using HRD, that the netbook might be able handle the load. I enjoy Satellite Tracker very much, but it has locked up my computer at the very worst of times (e.g., just a few seconds before acquisition of AO-7 when I had a schedule with EA8AVI in an attempt to add Africa to my continents-worked list). I chose the netbook for my ham radio use because of its size, and because it was bundled with Windows XP, not Vista. I fear that the decision has me comitted to a computer with a processor that may not have enough muscle to do everything HRD/Satellite Tracker asks it to do. Regardless ... thank you so much for all of your work on HRD and Satellite Tracker. HRD is an amazing suite of software. 73 to all, Tim - N3TL Athens, Ga. - EM84ha -- Original message from Simon (HB9DRV) : -- Hi, I guess it's something I've never really tried - will do so and fix. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF Any idea why, if I select SHOW TRACKS/ALL the prog locks up when Orbitron is capable of displaying the same number (85) of sats without slowing? What is the maximun number we can sensibly display ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.45/2285 - Release Date: 08/06/09 05:57:00 ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: HRD software question
Gotcha! You are correct. maybe the independences that were discussed with 5.x will take care of that problem. It would be nice to bring up just the satellite portion only. I have been so use to using WISP32 since my SATGATE days that I use it most of the time except on my newer radios. HRD indeed is very good and looks even more promising for the future. I have downloaded the 5.x beta version but have yet to install it to see how it does. Regards, Reid, W4UPD n...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hey Reid, Thanks for your note. Using the same package here - V 4.1, Build 1985. And yes, you can access Satellite Tracker without connecting radios to it - but you can't connect radios to it without ALSO connecting them to HRD. Therein could lie the problem. DM780 is useable without connecting radios to HRD. I routinely do that when I'm working digital modes in HF. My only interest in computer connection for Satellite Tracker is Doppler control. I would like to be able to connect directly to it and use it as a stand-alone without HRD involved. I believe that could/would solve the issues I experience here. 73, Tim - N3TL Athens, Ga. - EM84ha -- Original message from w4upd upd...@bristor-assoc.com: -- Which beta version of 4.1 are you using? I found that I had the same problem until 4.1 build 1985. Satellite stuff can be accessed without a rig hooked up. I did find that resources can really get eaten up by HRD when doing satellite stuff. If the description of HRD V5.0 is correct, it may ease up the overhead on computers by not trying to do so many things at once (some of which you may not need). Reid, W4UPD n...@bellsouth.net wrote: Simon and all, I have been using V 4.1 Beta for a few months, and my sense is that all of the multitasking HRD requires is taxing the processor on my Acer Aspire One netbook beyond its capacity. I may be wrong about that, but I suspect that's what's going on. Simon, please correct me if this is wrong - but I believe that V 4.1 (beta) requires that radios be connected to the main HRD suite, and then also connected to the Satellite Tracker, in order to provide computer control for Doppler tuning. If that is, indeed, the case, I wonder whether it's possible to enable Satellite Tracker's radio-related functions without connection to HRD? I suspect that if I was able to connect my radios directly to Satellite Tracker without using HRD, that the netbook might be able handle the load. I enjoy Satellite Tracker very much, but it has locked up my computer at the very worst of times (e.g., just a few seconds before acquisition of AO-7 when I had a schedule with EA8AVI in an attempt to add Africa to my continents-worked list). I chose the netbook for my ham radio use because of its size, and because it was bundled with Windows XP, not Vista. I fear that the decision has me comitted to a computer with a processor that may not have enough muscle to do everything HRD/Satellite Tracker asks it to do. Regardless ... thank you so much for all of your work on HRD and Satellite Tracker. HRD is an amazing suite of software. 73 to all, Tim - N3TL Athens, Ga. - EM84ha -- Original message from Simon (HB9DRV) : -- Hi, I guess it's something I've never really tried - will do so and fix. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF Any idea why, if I select SHOW TRACKS/ALL the prog locks up when Orbitron is capable of displaying the same number (85) of sats without slowing? What is the maximun number we can sensibly display ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.45/2285 -
[amsat-bb] Re: HRD software question
Hi, One thing I'm doing at the moment is reducing the load from HRD, especially with satellite tracking. The redrawing of the screen is not as efficient as it should be, I'll sort this out soon, I've also seen very high CPU load. I also have a netbook for testing - all this hardware I have to buy costs a lot but I hope it'll be worth it in the end. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: n...@bellsouth.net I have been using V 4.1 Beta for a few months, and my sense is that all of the multitasking HRD requires is taxing the processor on my Acer Aspire One netbook beyond its capacity. I may be wrong about that, but I suspect that's what's going on. ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: HRD software question
Thank you Simon! -- Original message from Simon (HB9DRV) si...@hb9drv.ch: -- Hi, One thing I'm doing at the moment is reducing the load from HRD, especially with satellite tracking. The redrawing of the screen is not as efficient as it should be, I'll sort this out soon, I've also seen very high CPU load. I also have a netbook for testing - all this hardware I have to buy costs a lot but I hope it'll be worth it in the end. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: n...@bellsouth.net I have been using V 4.1 Beta for a few months, and my sense is that all of the multitasking HRD requires is taxing the processor on my Acer Aspire One netbook beyond its capacity. I may be wrong about that, but I suspect that's what's going on. ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: HRD software question
- Original Message - From: David Barber david.bar...@dbelectronics.co.uk I find the tracking, even when reduced to its most basic form, consumes huge amounts of cpu time. Due to very poor coding of graphics I'm afraid :( Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: HRD software question
Next week I will get it working well with my ASUS netbook - I've cracked the CPU problems with the Rotator display already. Than I'll report back. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: David Barber david.bar...@dbelectronics.co.uk As a dedicated (but frustrated!) long time user of HRD Satellite stuff with my TS2000 my own experience is that the new version 5 is still a problem. However it would appear that the experience varies across hardware platform. ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: HRD software question
That's excellent news, most encouraging. Wish I was able to do more to assist. Many thanks for the feedback. David G8OQW -Original Message- From: Simon (HB9DRV) [mailto:si...@hb9drv.ch] Sent: 06 August 2009 19:00 To: david.bar...@dbelectronics.co.uk; n...@bellsouth.net; 'Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF' Cc: rswa...@twcny.rr.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: HRD software question Next week I will get it working well with my ASUS netbook - I've cracked the CPU problems with the Rotator display already. Than I'll report back. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: David Barber david.bar...@dbelectronics.co.uk As a dedicated (but frustrated!) long time user of HRD Satellite stuff with my TS2000 my own experience is that the new version 5 is still a problem. However it would appear that the experience varies across hardware platform. ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: HRD software question
Well, When I get to this stage I will offer to help anyone using teamview - I did this yesterday with a beta-tester in Holland and in just a few minutes found a serious resource leak. The main problem with netbooks is the graphics chip isn't too fast, but I do have some poor code in the satellite tracking anyway :) My general aim is to be able to run HRD 5.0 on a netbook driving a 24 display. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: David Barber david.bar...@dbelectronics.co.uk That's excellent news, most encouraging. Wish I was able to do more to assist. ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: HRD software question
Simon, I will be thrilled if you are able to get the Doppler-tuning function to work with stability on a netbook with an Intel Atom processor driving an 8.9-inch screen (the one built in to my Acer Aspire One). :) Tim - N3TL --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Simon (HB9DRV) si...@hb9drv.ch wrote: From: Simon (HB9DRV) si...@hb9drv.ch Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HRD software question To: david.bar...@dbelectronics.co.uk Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 2:47 PM Well, When I get to this stage I will offer to help anyone using teamview - I did this yesterday with a beta-tester in Holland and in just a few minutes found a serious resource leak. The main problem with netbooks is the graphics chip isn't too fast, but I do have some poor code in the satellite tracking anyway :) My general aim is to be able to run HRD 5.0 on a netbook driving a 24 display. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: David Barber david.bar...@dbelectronics.co.uk That's excellent news, most encouraging. Wish I was able to do more to assist. ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: HRD software question
On Thu, August 6, 2009 22:40, Simon \(HB9DRV\) wrote: Hi, Hi Simon, Repeater is FM (AO-51), linear inverting is SSB (VO-52), Split is ISS when on FM. Thanks for the reply, But how does HRD sat track know the difference between linear and non linear birds? The inverting part is done manual by selecting an other modulation. (would be nice if that was also programmable together with ctcss) But when you have a sat like DO-64 when rx goes up tx should go down this wil have influence on the main slider when this is used, but there is no way to select this when creating a frequency in the repeater/split linear part. And the documentation?, is there more then just the wiki pages? Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com 73's Jan - PE0SAT -- With regards PE0SAT Internet web-page http://www.ham.vgnet.nl/ ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
