[amsat-bb] Re: Linear Xpndr Operating Economics.
Simple answer...FM rigs will tend to "chirp" as you key the mic line as the VCO pulls onto frequency...crystal matrix FM radios such as the old Standard will be T-9... The purists will cry about the chirpy signal...but, most people who work CW on satellites would relish a new operator/contact even if they were QLF. That being said...I have works scores of stations with my own "chirpy" signal and even have received some polite 599's back. Roger Kolakowski WA1KAT On 2/4/2011 9:30 AM, Rich Dailey wrote: > Let's not forget about the funcube dongle as a terrific economical > solution for receiving. And any decent FM transmitter can key CW, > no? Assuming someone already has a vhf/uhf rig, I can see getting qrv on > linear > transponders today for under $200. > Or am I being too simplistic? > > Rich, N8UX > > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Linear Xpndr Operating Economics.
My first Oscar Station,,, I do not remember if it was Oscar 6 or 7, but it was 1975, and we listened to many passes on the ten meter downlink. We got from a local ham, an old AM vfo controlled 2 meter rig. It was AM only. it had a Red face and was BIG like the size of a heathkit SB-200 amp. two VFO's one for transmit and a separate one for receive. anyway we connected out Hallicrafters TO Keyer to the PTT line of the mic, (with no mic installed) and it worked amazingly well. That was out Oscar station back then, we made like 25 states or so on that setup, Joe WB9SBD The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 2/4/2011 9:16 AM, Roger Kolakowski wrote: > Simple answer...FM rigs will tend to "chirp" as you key the mic line as > the VCO pulls onto frequency...crystal matrix FM radios such as the old > Standard will be T-9... > > The purists will cry about the chirpy signal...but, most people who work > CW on satellites would relish a new operator/contact even if they were QLF. > > That being said...I have works scores of stations with my own "chirpy" > signal and even have received some polite 599's back. > > Roger Kolakowski > WA1KAT > > On 2/4/2011 9:30 AM, Rich Dailey wrote: >> Let's not forget about the funcube dongle as a terrific economical >> solution for receiving. And any decent FM transmitter can key CW, >> no? Assuming someone already has a vhf/uhf rig, I can see getting qrv on >> linear >> transponders today for under $200. >> Or am I being too simplistic? >> >> Rich, N8UX >> >> ___ >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! >> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Linear Xpndr Operating Economics.
Boy, that sounds familiar ! My first Oscar station was a Regency HR-2B FM rig with ONE crystal in the middle of the uplink band on 2 meters, keying the high-low power switch. You couldn't hear the low power but the 15 watts on high power made it fine. And the receivers were an HW-101 and Hallicrafters SX-117. Bought an AMECO preamp for HF, which helped out on 10 meters. That was good enough to work lots of stations, maybe a total of 600 QSO's on OScar 6 and 7! Then when the RS-10, 11 came along, I tried some mobile work using an ICOM 230, again only one frequency, keying the PTT line, no chirp, and Yaesu FT-301 for receiver. Larson 2 meter antenna and Hustler 10 meter antenna on the pickup. Worked quite a few QSO's that way, too! All CW only, of course on mode A. Didn't get an all-mode rig until about 1986 during the "RS" era. 73, John On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 09:59:28 -0600 Joe writes: > My first Oscar Station,,, > > I do not remember if it was Oscar 6 or 7, but it was 1975, and we > listened to many passes on the ten meter downlink. > > We got from a local ham, an old AM vfo controlled 2 meter rig. It > was > AM only. it had a Red face and was BIG like the size of a heathkit > SB-200 amp. two VFO's one for transmit and a separate one for > receive. > > anyway we connected out Hallicrafters TO Keyer to the PTT line of > the > mic, (with no mic installed) and it worked amazingly well. That > was > out Oscar station back then, we made like 25 states or so on that > setup, > > Joe WB9SBD > > The Original Rolling Ball Clock > Idle Tyme > Idle-Tyme.com > http://www.idle-tyme.com > > On 2/4/2011 9:16 AM, Roger Kolakowski wrote: > > Simple answer...FM rigs will tend to "chirp" as you key the mic > line as > > the VCO pulls onto frequency...crystal matrix FM radios such as > the old > > Standard will be T-9... > > > > The purists will cry about the chirpy signal...but, most people > who work > > CW on satellites would relish a new operator/contact even if they > were QLF. > > > > That being said...I have works scores of stations with my own > "chirpy" > > signal and even have received some polite 599's back. > > > > Roger Kolakowski > > WA1KAT > > > > On 2/4/2011 9:30 AM, Rich Dailey wrote: > >> Let's not forget about the funcube dongle as a terrific > economical > >> solution for receiving. And any decent FM transmitter can key > CW, > >> no? Assuming someone already has a vhf/uhf rig, I can see getting > qrv on linear > >> transponders today for under $200. > >> Or am I being too simplistic? > >> > >> Rich, N8UX > >> > >> ___ > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the > author. > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > >> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > ___ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the > author. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the > author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > $65/Hr Job - 25 Openings Part-Time job ($20-$65/hr). Requirements: Home Internet Access http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d4c3904dcafa1f976cst01vuc ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Linear Xpndr Operating Economics.
My first "satellite" rig was a pair of Drake B-line twins with the TC-2 transmit converter and SC-2 receive converter, a homebrew 2-meter turnstile on a tripod in the driveway, and 10- and 15-meter dipoles in the garage & house attics. I could work RS-10/11, RS-12/13, and RS-15 in modes A, K, and T, as well as HF, and had less than $600 invested in the whole station. Over the weekend I will be posting for sale a bit of ham radio history that will enable someone to uplink to AO-7 and FO-29 on the cheap... a KLM Echo 70. Watch for more details!!! George, KA3HSW - Original Message > From: k6yk > To: n...@mwt.net > Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org > Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 11:33:46 AM > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Linear Xpndr Operating Economics. > > Boy, that sounds familiar ! > My first Oscar station was a Regency HR-2B FM rig > with ONE crystal in the middle of the uplink band on 2 meters, > keying the high-low power switch. You couldn't hear the low > power but the 15 watts on high power made it fine. > > And the receivers were an HW-101 and Hallicrafters SX-117. > Bought an AMECO preamp for HF, which helped out on 10 meters. > > That was good enough to work lots of stations, maybe a total of > 600 QSO's on OScar 6 and 7! > > Then when the RS-10, 11 came along, I tried some mobile work > using an ICOM 230, again only one frequency, keying the PTT line, > no chirp, and Yaesu FT-301 for receiver. Larson 2 meter antenna and > Hustler 10 meter antenna on the pickup. Worked quite a few QSO's > that way, too! > > All CW only, of course on mode A. Didn't get an all-mode rig > until about 1986 during the "RS" era. > > 73, > John > > > ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Linear Xpndr Operating Economics & more again
Whoops! I forgot to mention that the antennas were an omni vertical ground plane on 2 meters for the uplink and tri-band beam for the 10 meter downlink. 73, John K6YK On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 09:33:46 -0800 k6yk writes: > Boy, that sounds familiar ! > My first Oscar station was a Regency HR-2B FM rig > with ONE crystal in the middle of the uplink band on 2 meters, > keying the high-low power switch. You couldn't hear the low > power but the 15 watts on high power made it fine. > > And the receivers were an HW-101 and Hallicrafters SX-117. > Bought an AMECO preamp for HF, which helped out on 10 meters. > > That was good enough to work lots of stations, maybe a total of > 600 QSO's on OScar 6 and 7! > > Then when the RS-10, 11 came along, I tried some mobile work > using an ICOM 230, again only one frequency, keying the PTT line, > no chirp, and Yaesu FT-301 for receiver. Larson 2 meter antenna > and > Hustler 10 meter antenna on the pickup. Worked quite a few QSO's > that way, too! > > All CW only, of course on mode A. Didn't get an all-mode rig > until about 1986 during the "RS" era. > > 73, > John > > > On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 09:59:28 -0600 Joe writes: > > My first Oscar Station,,, > > > > I do not remember if it was Oscar 6 or 7, but it was 1975, and we > > > listened to many passes on the ten meter downlink. > > > > We got from a local ham, an old AM vfo controlled 2 meter rig. > It > > was > > AM only. it had a Red face and was BIG like the size of a heathkit > > > SB-200 amp. two VFO's one for transmit and a separate one for > > receive. > > > > anyway we connected out Hallicrafters TO Keyer to the PTT line of > > > the > > mic, (with no mic installed) and it worked amazingly well. That > > > was > > out Oscar station back then, we made like 25 states or so on that > > > setup, > > > > Joe WB9SBD > > > > The Original Rolling Ball Clock > > Idle Tyme > > Idle-Tyme.com > > http://www.idle-tyme.com > > > > On 2/4/2011 9:16 AM, Roger Kolakowski wrote: > > > Simple answer...FM rigs will tend to "chirp" as you key the mic > > > line as > > > the VCO pulls onto frequency...crystal matrix FM radios such as > > > the old > > > Standard will be T-9... > > > > > > The purists will cry about the chirpy signal...but, most people > > > who work > > > CW on satellites would relish a new operator/contact even if > they > > were QLF. > > > > > > That being said...I have works scores of stations with my own > > "chirpy" > > > signal and even have received some polite 599's back. > > > > > > Roger Kolakowski > > > WA1KAT > > > > > > On 2/4/2011 9:30 AM, Rich Dailey wrote: > > >> Let's not forget about the funcube dongle as a terrific > > economical > > >> solution for receiving. And any decent FM transmitter can key > > > CW, > > >> no? Assuming someone already has a vhf/uhf rig, I can see > getting > > qrv on linear > > >> transponders today for under $200. > > >> Or am I being too simplistic? > > >> > > >> Rich, N8UX > > >> > > >> ___ > > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of > the > > author. > > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur > satellite > > program! > > >> Subscription settings: > http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > ___ > > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the > > > author. > > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur > satellite > > program! > > > Subscription settings: > http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > ___ > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the > > author. > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > > > program! > > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > > > $65/Hr Job - 25 Openings > Part-Time job ($20-$65/hr). Requirements: Home Internet Access > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d4c3904dcafa1f976cst01vuc > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the > author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite > program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb