[amsat-bb] Re: Software must have list

2012-08-29 Thread Mark L. Hammond
Wisp runs OK under Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit.

Mark N8MH 

At 09:53 PM 8/29/2012 +0300, Shamai \SAM\ Opfer wrote:
Hi,
Two ways were mentioned to run old programs with windows 7:
1. Windows 7 Pro or highrer, working in its built-in Windows XP mode
2. Windows 7 Home (the cheaper version of Windows) with XP (or older
Windows version) installed.on a virtual machine.

Does anyone know if WISP will work in both cases? even if Windows 7 (either
Home or Pro) is installed in 64 bit version?


thanks  73
shamai, 4z1ws


This solution seems cheaper than installing Windows 7 Pro.
Will it run WISP and other old programs as effectively as the Windows XP
mode in the more expensive Wi ndows 7 versions?




On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 10:46 PM, George Henry ka3...@att.net wrote:

 Note that you can also install XP in a virtual machine on lesser versions
 of Win 7 (and Vista), but it's a multi-step process, and you must supply
 the XP installation disk.

 First, download and install Virtual PC from Microsoft.  Then create a
 virtual machine, and install XP onto it just as you would to a real PC.
 I did it on my Acer netbook with Win 7 Home Premium, so I know it works.


 George, KA3HSW


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 Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Software must have list


 [snip]


 You didn't mention what version of Win7.  If Pro or up, you can download a
 free XP virtual environment from MS, which works well for old programs,
 and
 even allows ancient DOS programs to access comm ports.

 For non-ham stuff, a good antivirus program, and a backup program such as
 Acronis, Norton, or perhaps Paragon.

 73,

 Alan
 WA4SCA


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[amsat-bb] Re: Software must have list

2012-08-29 Thread Bob DeVarney W1ICW
I have run up against this.. if it ain't 32-bit in the first place, it 
won't work in Win7 64-bit.. older programs like my Uni_Trac interface 
software would simply not run on my new rootin scootin Win7 machine, and 
I ended up dedicating my old box strictly for running the Uni_Trac...


73,

Bob W1ICW
On 8/29/2012 3:44 PM, Alan P. Biddle wrote:

Something to consider for older programs is the compatibility mode in WIN7.
Right click on an icon, then Properties, and then Compatibility.  There is a
drop-down box which will allow you to pick the version of Windows, and even
service pack, going back to WIN95.

I find that WIN7 works fine as-is for most programs, but I have a couple of
truly ancient non-ham utilities which were written for WIN98SE.  They
worked, with limitations, on XP, but work fully again since I have WIN98
selected.

I have WIN7 32-bit, so I don't know if a 64-bit version offers any 32-bit
compatibility variations.   Guessing not, but???

Alan
WA4SCA



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Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Software must have list

Wisp runs OK under Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit.

Mark N8MH

At 09:53 PM 8/29/2012 +0300, Shamai \SAM\ Opfer wrote:

Hi,
Two ways were mentioned to run old programs with windows 7:
1. Windows 7 Pro or highrer, working in its built-in Windows XP mode
2. Windows 7 Home (the cheaper version of Windows) with XP (or older
Windows version) installed.on a virtual machine.

Does anyone know if WISP will work in both cases? even if Windows 7 (either
Home or Pro) is installed in 64 bit version?


thanks  73
shamai, 4z1ws


This solution seems cheaper than installing Windows 7 Pro.
Will it run WISP and other old programs as effectively as the Windows XP
mode in the more expensive Wi ndows 7 versions?




On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 10:46 PM, George Henry ka3...@att.net wrote:


Note that you can also install XP in a virtual machine on lesser versions
of Win 7 (and Vista), but it's a multi-step process, and you must supply
the XP installation disk.

First, download and install Virtual PC from Microsoft.  Then create a
virtual machine, and install XP onto it just as you would to a real PC.
I did it on my Acer netbook with Win 7 Home Premium, so I know it works.


George, KA3HSW


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Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Software must have list


[snip]



You didn't mention what version of Win7.  If Pro or up, you can download

a

free XP virtual environment from MS, which works well for old programs,
and
even allows ancient DOS programs to access comm ports.

For non-ham stuff, a good antivirus program, and a backup program such

as

Acronis, Norton, or perhaps Paragon.

73,

Alan
WA4SCA


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[amsat-bb] Re: Software must have list

2012-08-29 Thread Bob DeVarney W1ICW

Did I say 32-bit? I think I meant 16-bit...
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[amsat-bb] Re: Software must have list

2012-08-29 Thread Shamai SAM Opfer
Isn't it something that virtual machine should take care of? Even if the
underlying Windows 7 was installed as 64 bit.
73
Shamai
On 30 באוג 2012 00:29, Bob DeVarney W1ICW w...@myfairpoint.net wrote:

 Did I say 32-bit? I think I meant 16-bit...
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[amsat-bb] Re: Software must have list

2012-08-29 Thread Bob DeVarney W1ICW

Tried it, no luck. Easier to keep using the old machine stand alone.

On 8/29/2012 5:42 PM, Shamai SAM Opfer wrote:


Isn't it something that virtual machine should take care of? Even if 
the underlying Windows 7 was installed as 64 bit.

73
Shamai

On 30 באוג 2012 00:29, Bob DeVarney W1ICW w...@myfairpoint.net 
mailto:w...@myfairpoint.net wrote:


Did I say 32-bit? I think I meant 16-bit...
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[amsat-bb] Re: Software must have list

2012-08-29 Thread Bob DeVarney W1ICW
In the case of my Uni_Trac 2000 interface, I tried it, but no luck. 
Easier to keep using the old machine stand alone.


On 8/29/2012 5:42 PM, Shamai SAM Opfer wrote:


Isn't it something that virtual machine should take care of? Even if 
the underlying Windows 7 was installed as 64 bit.

73
Shamai

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mailto:w...@myfairpoint.net wrote:


Did I say 32-bit? I think I meant 16-bit...
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[amsat-bb] Re: Software must have list

2012-08-19 Thread Alan P. Biddle
Drew.

Besides the other programs listed already, I still use WISP for a few quick
look things, and that works fine on WIN7.  

For satellite logging, if you don't use HRD, then the DXLabs DXKeeper.  At
one time, it was the only program which actually did LoTW sat QSOs
correctly, and I never found a reason to change.

JT65HF, another take on WSJT, which I use.

You didn't mention what version of Win7.  If Pro or up, you can download a
free XP virtual environment from MS, which works well for old programs, and
even allows ancient DOS programs to access comm ports.

For non-ham stuff, a good antivirus program, and a backup program such as
Acronis, Norton, or perhaps Paragon.

73,

Alan
WA4SCA


 

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Behalf Of Andrew Glasbrenner
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 3:51 PM
To: Amsat-BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Software must have list

So my 4 yr old XP shack computer is in critical care right now, and I 
have a new quad core Win 7 HP that I'm setting up today. So far I've 
downloaded and installed:

SatPC32 (still working on the speech error problem)
MixW 3
HDR 5.sumthing
Spectravue

next up is WSJT

What must have ham radio programs, especially satellite/vhf/uhf, do you 
have and recommend?

73, Drew KO4MA
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[amsat-bb] Re: Software must have list

2012-08-19 Thread N0JY

AO27Scheduler
MMSSTV
Putty
Your LOTW certificates
Your FunCube Dongle stuff

I agree with Alan on DXLabs, I like it.

Jerry
N0JY

On 8/18/2012 3:50 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
So my 4 yr old XP shack computer is in critical care right now, and I 
have a new quad core Win 7 HP that I'm setting up today. So far I've 
downloaded and installed:


SatPC32 (still working on the speech error problem)
MixW 3
HDR 5.sumthing
Spectravue

next up is WSJT

What must have ham radio programs, especially satellite/vhf/uhf, do 
you have and recommend?


73, Drew KO4MA
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[amsat-bb] Re: Software must have list

2012-08-19 Thread ted


For logging I've found Logger32 works well, especially for keeping track 
of your portable operations. Logger allows you to log to a single 
logbook using different operators. For example, I use my callsign for 
normal QSOs, and /QRP, /6MTR, /SAT for home SAT QSOs, and /GRID for 
portable locations. It tracks awards, and grids for each operator. Info 
on any station you have ever worked is instantly available.


I must admit though, I am not familiar with what else is out there.

73...ted...aa5ck
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[amsat-bb] Re: Software must have list

2012-08-19 Thread George Henry
Note that you can also install XP in a virtual machine on lesser versions of 
Win 7 (and Vista), but it's a multi-step process, and you must supply the XP 
installation disk.


First, download and install Virtual PC from Microsoft.  Then create a 
virtual machine, and install XP onto it just as you would to a real PC.

I did it on my Acer netbook with Win 7 Home Premium, so I know it works.


George, KA3HSW


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To: 'Andrew Glasbrenner' glasbren...@mindspring.com; 'Amsat-BB' 
amsat-bb@amsat.org

Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 9:10 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Software must have list


[snip]


You didn't mention what version of Win7.  If Pro or up, you can download a
free XP virtual environment from MS, which works well for old programs, 
and

even allows ancient DOS programs to access comm ports.

For non-ham stuff, a good antivirus program, and a backup program such as
Acronis, Norton, or perhaps Paragon.

73,

Alan
WA4SCA


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[amsat-bb] Re: Software must have list

2012-08-19 Thread Tim Cunningham
Wisp?

Oh how I miss the PacSats...

Alan, thanks for your help at the Huntsville Hamfest this weekend.


Tim - N8DEU






From: Alan P. Biddle apbid...@united.net
To: Andrew Glasbrenner glasbren...@mindspring.com; Amsat-BB 
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Sent: Sun, August 19, 2012 9:21:02 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Software must have list

Drew.

Besides the other programs listed already, I still use WISP for a few quick
look things, and that works fine on WIN7.  

For satellite logging, if you don't use HRD, then the DXLabs DXKeeper.  At
one time, it was the only program which actually did LoTW sat QSOs
correctly, and I never found a reason to change.

JT65HF, another take on WSJT, which I use.

You didn't mention what version of Win7.  If Pro or up, you can download a
free XP virtual environment from MS, which works well for old programs, and
even allows ancient DOS programs to access comm ports.

For non-ham stuff, a good antivirus program, and a backup program such as
Acronis, Norton, or perhaps Paragon.

73,

Alan
WA4SCA




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Behalf Of Andrew Glasbrenner
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 3:51 PM
To: Amsat-BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Software must have list

So my 4 yr old XP shack computer is in critical care right now, and I 
have a new quad core Win 7 HP that I'm setting up today. So far I've 
downloaded and installed:

SatPC32 (still working on the speech error problem)
MixW 3
HDR 5.sumthing
Spectravue

next up is WSJT

What must have ham radio programs, especially satellite/vhf/uhf, do you 
have and recommend?

73, Drew KO4MA
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[amsat-bb] Re: Software must have list

2012-08-19 Thread Bob DeVarney W1ICW

OMG you said a mouthful, Tim.. I agree !

On 8/19/2012 8:15 PM, Tim Cunningham wrote:

Wisp?

Oh how I miss the PacSats...

Alan, thanks for your help at the Huntsville Hamfest this weekend.


Tim - N8DEU






From: Alan P. Biddle apbid...@united.net
To: Andrew Glasbrenner glasbren...@mindspring.com; Amsat-BB
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Drew.

Besides the other programs listed already, I still use WISP for a few quick
look things, and that works fine on WIN7.

For satellite logging, if you don't use HRD, then the DXLabs DXKeeper.  At
one time, it was the only program which actually did LoTW sat QSOs
correctly, and I never found a reason to change.

JT65HF, another take on WSJT, which I use.

You didn't mention what version of Win7.  If Pro or up, you can download a
free XP virtual environment from MS, which works well for old programs, and
even allows ancient DOS programs to access comm ports.

For non-ham stuff, a good antivirus program, and a backup program such as
Acronis, Norton, or perhaps Paragon.

73,

Alan
WA4SCA




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From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Andrew Glasbrenner
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 3:51 PM
To: Amsat-BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Software must have list

So my 4 yr old XP shack computer is in critical care right now, and I
have a new quad core Win 7 HP that I'm setting up today. So far I've
downloaded and installed:

SatPC32 (still working on the speech error problem)
MixW 3
HDR 5.sumthing
Spectravue

next up is WSJT

What must have ham radio programs, especially satellite/vhf/uhf, do you
have and recommend?

73, Drew KO4MA
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[amsat-bb] Re: Software must have list

2012-08-18 Thread Jim Sanford

Drew:
Here's my list, for what it's worth:

Nova (It does some things better than SatPC32, some not as well -- I 
have and use both)

Smith chart program
EZNEC
Some kind of CAD program for doing schematic and other drawings (I use 
TurboCAD, mostly because I've used it for over 15 years and found a new 
version relatively expensively)
Elsie filter design software (say you want a better diplexer to use 2m 
and 70cm radios on the same dual-band antenna, Elsie will let you design 
up to 7 or 9 poles)
Obvious office stuff (I use OpenOffice, tho have MS on the laptop for 
the rare occasion OO doesn't quite cut it)
Skype -- don't use it often, but nice to have when you want it, 
especially with all the time I spend in hotel rooms
A good restore disk creator.  I had to buy one for the XP desktop, but 
think the Win7 laptop came with it, albeit VERY difficult to find.
Finally, a manual -- continuing the tradition of refusing to provide 
user documentation with the product (it's all in the help files -- yeah, 
right) I bought Windows 7, the missing manual from O'Reilly. Missing 
manual is a series, this is the first one I've bought, and it has been 
VERY helpful in figuring out Win7.  I hate the new interface (why must 
they tinker for the sake of tinkering?!) but I really do like the much 
faster boot, awake, and shutdown of Win7 compared to XP (on comparable 
processors -- replaced both machines within a month of each other.)


I'll be eager to see others' lists -- probably a WHOLE lot better ideas 
out there!


Good luck!

73,
jim
wb4...@amsat.org

On 8/18/2012 4:50 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
So my 4 yr old XP shack computer is in critical care right now, and I 
have a new quad core Win 7 HP that I'm setting up today. So far I've 
downloaded and installed:


SatPC32 (still working on the speech error problem)
MixW 3
HDR 5.sumthing
Spectravue

next up is WSJT

What must have ham radio programs, especially satellite/vhf/uhf, do 
you have and recommend?


73, Drew KO4MA
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[amsat-bb] Re: Software must have list

2012-08-18 Thread Ronald Nutter

Drew:

Think about getting Virtualbox (www.virtualbox.org).  If you can migrate 
your physical hard drive to a virtual one, you can run your XP 
environment almost forever.  Also when you move machines in the future, 
the OS wont matter, all you need to do is move the virtual machine and 
you are done.


Ron

On 8/18/12 3:50 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
So my 4 yr old XP shack computer is in critical care right now, and I 
have a new quad core Win 7 HP that I'm setting up today. So far I've 
downloaded and installed:


SatPC32 (still working on the speech error problem)
MixW 3
HDR 5.sumthing
Spectravue

next up is WSJT

What must have ham radio programs, especially satellite/vhf/uhf, do 
you have and recommend?


73, Drew KO4MA
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[amsat-bb] Re: Software must have list

2012-08-18 Thread Greg D
Actually, the first thing I install on a new computer is Linux 
(OpenSuse, usually), then put Windows in the virtual machine, if I need it.


But, to Drew's question, consider APRSIS32 for APRS use. There's even 
some satellite tracking capability, so you know what other APRS stations 
are within a satellite's footprint.


Also, FLDIGI sound-card digital software, and MMSSTV for slow-scan TV. 
Oh, and the AO-27 schedule prediction software.


Enjoy the new computer; I'm looking to do the same soon. Mine is getting 
senile (forgetting it has one of the disks)...


Greg KO6TH


Ronald Nutter wrote:

Drew:

Think about getting Virtualbox (www.virtualbox.org). If you can 
migrate your physical hard drive to a virtual one, you can run your XP 
environment almost forever. Also when you move machines in the future, 
the OS wont matter, all you need to do is move the virtual machine and 
you are done.


Ron

On 8/18/12 3:50 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
So my 4 yr old XP shack computer is in critical care right now, and I 
have a new quad core Win 7 HP that I'm setting up today. So far I've 
downloaded and installed:


SatPC32 (still working on the speech error problem)
MixW 3
HDR 5.sumthing
Spectravue

next up is WSJT

What must have ham radio programs, especially satellite/vhf/uhf, do 
you have and recommend?


73, Drew KO4MA
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[amsat-bb] Re: Software must have list

2012-08-18 Thread Tony Langdon

At 12:45 PM 8/19/2012, Ronald Nutter wrote:

Drew:

Think about getting Virtualbox (www.virtualbox.org).  If you can 
migrate your physical hard drive to a virtual one, you can run your 
XP environment almost forever.  Also when you move machines in the 
future, the OS wont matter, all you need to do is move the virtual 
machine and you are done.


I do the same with VMware.  Same idea, except I can choose between 
Windows, Linux or Mac hosts.  In fact, one of my VMs has done the 
lot.  It started life in around 2002-2003 running on real 
hardware.  In 2004, it was migrated to a VM on a Linux host running 
VMware Workstation (the free Server version wasn't available back 
then).  After its host's disk died in 2007-2008, the VM was migrated 
to a Windows host running VMware Player, and finally in 2010 I moved 
it to the Mac running VMware Fusion, where it sits today! :)


73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com

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