[amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 FM
A good question. Some people seem to get in effortlessly, others seldom if at all. I fall into the seldom category, though I had better luck today. Someone suggested that perhaps my dilithium crystals needed realignment, so I pulled out my calibrated deviation meter, and verified the PL is set as recommended for the FT-847 at 700 Hz. Next, I pulled out my counter with GPS time base, and measured 66.961 Hz for the tone. I am pretty certain that an accuracy of .06% should be good enough. ;) I am wondering if it wants significantly more or less PL audio level. It shouldn't be too hard to rig up an external injection when the operation is more frequent. You have got to love satellite ops. Always something interesting to consider! Alan WA4SCA -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of WCP Sent: 26 December, 2009 10:30 To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] XW-1 FM OK so what is the trick to work the FM repeater on WX-1 ? Using TS-2000 and set to : Uplink: 145.8250 MHz FM, PL 67.0 Hz. Downlink 435.6750 MHz FM I have no problem working Linear Transponder. ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 FM
I think that the whole problem is the sheer number of stations trying to get into the bird at the same time... destructive interference occurs between all the differently-phased PL tones, and NO ONE gets in most of the time. I would love to see how much easier it would be to use with the tone turned off. Either that, or leave it in linear mode all the time. George, KA3HSW - Original Message - From: Alan P. Biddle apbid...@united.net To: 'WCP' w...@mchsi.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 12:18 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 FM A good question. Some people seem to get in effortlessly, others seldom if at all. I fall into the seldom category, though I had better luck today. Someone suggested that perhaps my dilithium crystals needed realignment, so I pulled out my calibrated deviation meter, and verified the PL is set as recommended for the FT-847 at 700 Hz. Next, I pulled out my counter with GPS time base, and measured 66.961 Hz for the tone. I am pretty certain that an accuracy of .06% should be good enough. ;) I am wondering if it wants significantly more or less PL audio level. It shouldn't be too hard to rig up an external injection when the operation is more frequent. You have got to love satellite ops. Always something interesting to consider! Alan WA4SCA ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 FM
I have the same problem with my TS-2000. I get into all other FM sats but sure can't raise XW-1. Pete WA6WOA --- On Sat, 12/26/09, WCP w...@mchsi.com wrote: From: WCP w...@mchsi.com Subject: [amsat-bb] XW-1 FM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Date: Saturday, December 26, 2009, 8:29 AM OK so what is the trick to work the FM repeater on WX-1 ? Using TS-2000 and set to : Uplink: 145.8250 MHz FM, PL 67.0 Hz. Downlink 435.6750 MHz FM I have no problem working Linear Transponder. ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 FM
I haven't been able to get into the sat either in FM or linear. And I work AO-7 and VO-52 regularly as well as the FM birds. Frustrating so far but I will keep at it. 73 Jeff WB2SYK Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: George Henry ka3...@att.net Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 12:59:28 To: apbid...@mailaps.org; 'WCP'w...@mchsi.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 FM I think that the whole problem is the sheer number of stations trying to get into the bird at the same time... destructive interference occurs between all the differently-phased PL tones, and NO ONE gets in most of the time. I would love to see how much easier it would be to use with the tone turned off. Either that, or leave it in linear mode all the time. George, KA3HSW - Original Message - From: Alan P. Biddle apbid...@united.net To: 'WCP' w...@mchsi.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 12:18 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 FM A good question. Some people seem to get in effortlessly, others seldom if at all. I fall into the seldom category, though I had better luck today. Someone suggested that perhaps my dilithium crystals needed realignment, so I pulled out my calibrated deviation meter, and verified the PL is set as recommended for the FT-847 at 700 Hz. Next, I pulled out my counter with GPS time base, and measured 66.961 Hz for the tone. I am pretty certain that an accuracy of .06% should be good enough. ;) I am wondering if it wants significantly more or less PL audio level. It shouldn't be too hard to rig up an external injection when the operation is more frequent. You have got to love satellite ops. Always something interesting to consider! Alan WA4SCA ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 FM voice no work over Australia
Samething on my side... 14h33 UTC pass I heard the beacon very well, but nothing on the FM repeater. J-F VA2SS GS: FN45AJ 2009/12/18 vk5...@amsat.org: Listened for 10 minutes from 13:31 UTC (past midnight local time) Strong carrier received reaching S7 but was not able to access voice repeater. Transmitted at different power levels using 67 Hz tone but no voice received back from the satellite. Should have stayed in bed :( Alex / VK5ALX ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb -- Jean-François Ménard VA2SS =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= AMSAT www.amsat.org / Member #37102 ARRL www.arrl.org =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 FM voice no work over Australia
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:53 AM, ryan woods kd8...@yahoo.com wrote: I also heard the beacon very well here in FM09 on my d700 with a mag-mount in the car but I didnt hear the carrier or anything on the repeater. Lets hope all is well with our new sat. Ryan Woods KD8ATF FM09om Ryan -- I had the same concerns, until I re-read Alan's letter, which said XW-1 FM and store-forwared transponder will be turn on again between 1205UTC and 1352UTC on Dec. 18. The recent pass over NA was about 14:20UTC. Rats! Glad to hear you're trying an omni antenna. Was this in a rural or urban area? Did you use a preamp with this? 73, Bruce -- http://ve9qrp.blogspot.com ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 FM voice no work over Australia
Ryan, There is no carrier on the repeater until somebody turn on his uplink with 67Hz PL, or transponder will transmit PACSAT UI frame per 12 second if uplink is idless. 73 Alan, BA1DU - Original Message - From: ryan woods kd8...@yahoo.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:53 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] XW-1 FM voice no work over Australia I also heard the beacon very well here in FM09 on my d700 with a mag-mount in the car but I didnt hear the carrier or anything on the repeater. Lets hope all is well with our new sat. Ryan Woods KD8ATF FM09om ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 FM voice no work over Australia
Hello Bruce It was a rural area I live in the eastern panhandle of wv. no preamp. I hope I get to work it before the snow comes here its calling for 5 to 10 inchs tonight so I should be busy running car wreaks tonight...vol firefighter here. Ryan Woods KD8ATF From: ryan woods kd8...@yahoo.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Fri, December 18, 2009 9:53:39 AM Subject: XW-1 FM voice no work over Australia I also heard the beacon very well here in FM09 on my d700 with a mag-mount in the car but I didnt hear the carrier or anything on the repeater. Lets hope all is well with our new sat. Ryan Woods KD8ATF FM09om ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 FM voice no work over Australia
Alan, Tried on the 15.46 UTC pass on Dec 18th with the 67Hz PL but was unable to trigger. Wonder if the FM xponder was on at that time. My ICOM 821H does not have the CTCSS optional unit installed and I was using an application called comtekk to inject the 67Hz tone from my PC using the acc socket in the Radio. Let us know when the linear transponder will be available. 73's Nitin [VU3TYG] AMSAT India www.amsatindia.org -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Alan Kung Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 8:47 PM To: ryan woods; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 FM voice no work over Australia Ryan, There is no carrier on the repeater until somebody turn on his uplink with 67Hz PL, or transponder will transmit PACSAT UI frame per 12 second if uplink is idless. 73 Alan, BA1DU - Original Message - From: ryan woods kd8...@yahoo.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:53 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] XW-1 FM voice no work over Australia I also heard the beacon very well here in FM09 on my d700 with a mag-mount in the car but I didnt hear the carrier or anything on the repeater. Lets hope all is well with our new sat. Ryan Woods KD8ATF FM09om ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.113/2573 - Release Date: 12/18/09 13:05:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.113/2573 - Release Date: 12/18/09 13:05:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.113/2573 - Release Date: 12/18/09 13:05:00 ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 FM voice no work over Australia
Pse look: XW-1 FM and digital store-forwarded transponder ON at 1205UTC OFF at 1352UTC on Dec. 18 2009 Hold Your Horses Gentlemen, and wait for next schedule :) -jari oh3uw ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 FM voice no work over Australia
Yep Jari, everyone is chomping at the bit to use the horse analogy... - Original Message - From: Jari Koivurinne jari.koivuri...@aina.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 8:52:06 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 FM voice no work over Australia Pse look: XW-1 FM and digital store-forwarded transponder ON at 1205UTC OFF at 1352UTC on Dec. 18 2009 Hold Your Horses Gentlemen, and wait for next schedule :) -jari oh3uw ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 FM voice no work over Australia
Orbit #51 over Syracuse, NY FN13---max elevation 8.9 degrees. No FM downlink at all but I did hear the beacon up the band right where it was supposed to be. 13B2, 70cm mast mount SSB pre, FT 726R. Nice big footprint. My first time trying to find this bird. Congrats and good luck to all involved. 73, jeff WB2SYK --- On Fri, 12/18/09, Jari Koivurinne jari.koivuri...@aina.net wrote: From: Jari Koivurinne jari.koivuri...@aina.net Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 FM voice no work over Australia To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 11:52 AM Pse look: XW-1 FM and digital store-forwarded transponder ON at 1205UTC OFF at 1352UTC on Dec. 18 2009 Hold Your Horses Gentlemen, and wait for next schedule :) -jari oh3uw ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 FM voice no work over Australia
There is no carrier on the repeater until somebody turn on his uplink with 67Hz PL, or transponder will transmit PACSAT UI frame per 12 second if uplink is idless. 73 Alan, BA1DU That may be how it should be but I can assure you the carrier was on continuously during the time I reported in my original post (1331-1341 UTC) and it did not respond to my input signal. I believe others have reported the same. Alex VK5ALX ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 FM voice no work over Australia
Dear Alex, You are right! We got same report from different country, we have confirmed it was a software problem, we restarted the transponder then it come back to normal. Thank you very much for your valuable report, we are looking forward to hear from you in the future! 73 Alan, BA1DU XW-1 project manager www.camsat.cn - Original Message - From: vk5...@amsat.org To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 7:39 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 FM voice no work over Australia There is no carrier on the repeater until somebody turn on his uplink with 67Hz PL, or transponder will transmit PACSAT UI frame per 12 second if uplink is idless. 73 Alan, BA1DU That may be how it should be but I can assure you the carrier was on continuously during the time I reported in my original post (1331-1341 UTC) and it did not respond to my input signal. I believe others have reported the same. Alex VK5ALX ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 FM transponder works great
Hi Michael, Chen BD5RV/4 When do you plan to open the linear transponder for SSB/CW operation ? Tanks for this information 73 de i8CVS Domenico - Original Message - From: Michael Chen michael.bd...@gmail.com To: amsat-bb amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 8:47 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] XW-1 FM transponder works great All, I managed to operate the special event station BT3WX to work several E2, BY, VR2, XX9 throughout the evening pass of XW-1 using the FM transponder. It was the 1st test open of this bird's transponder. Everything works just great! Michael Chen, BD5RV/4 Email: michael.bd...@gmail.com MSN: bd...@jsdxc.org Skype: michael-bd5rv ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 FM transponder works great
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Michael Chen michael.bd...@gmail.com wrote: All, I managed to operate the special event station BT3WX to work several E2, BY, VR2, XX9 throughout the evening pass of XW-1 using the FM transponder. It was the 1st test open of this bird's transponder. Everything works just great! This is really exciting, Michael! We're delighted that the FM transponder is working. With such a big footprint it will be a remarkable experience for newcomers and oldtimers alike. For my part, my QTH in Maritime (Eastern) Canada will have a 3 deg. elevation view to the XW-1 at the same time that Moscow, Russia has a 3 deg. elevation view. Imagine that FM to FM! 73, Bruce -- http://ve9qrp.blogspot.com ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 FM transponder works great
Perhaps this is the in-between bird we have been praying for??? John KB2HSH -- ___ John Marranca, Jr -PBX Technician- BN Systems, Incorporated Orchard Park, NY (716)406-7130 ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
