No Subject

1999-01-02 Thread Mike Avila

A few days ago I sent this request for help to the author but have not
received a response yet.  He is probably still in the moving process or
maybe analog-author is not working.  Is there anybody who has seen the
source code for analog.c that can help me?  It is at the end of analog.c
that I am trying to add the following code.

Thanks.

---
--

I am having a problem trying to get compare to the output type so I can
know whether or not to execute the module I created.  Would you please help
me by providing the correct code to check the output type for HTML.


/*@ Modification by Avila */
  if (op -> outopts.outstyle == "HTML")  <<
 {
 if (rebuild == TRUE)
  {
   rebuild_files();
  }
 }
/*@ End of Modification */
  my_exit(EXIT_SUCCESS);
  return(EXIT_SUCCESS);  /* just to stop compiler complaining */


Thanks.  I appreciate the help.  I cannot figure this one out by myself.

Mike


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Re: [analog-help] Display up to 10000 hosts

1999-01-02 Thread Jeremy Wadsack



Mihalis Tsoukalos wrote:

> Hello to everyone.
> As you may already know I am a beginner on analog so forgive me if I am
> asking elementary questions.
>
> I want to be able to display on the Host Report up to 1 hosts (for
> example) or hosts with more than xx requests.
> How can I do that?

See the *FLOOR command in docs/othreps.html.

> Also on the Referrer Report I have entries of the following type:
>
>2645:   http://www.in.gr/stocks/alphalist.asp?ini=Ê
>2442:   http://www.in.gr/stocks/alphalist.asp?ini=Ð
>2382:   http://www.in.gr/stocks/alphalist.asp?ini=Ä
>1984:   http://www.in.gr/stocks/alphalist.asp?ini=Ô
>1908:   http://www.in.gr/stocks/alphalist.asp?ini=É
>1821:   http://www.in.gr/stocks/alphalist.asp?ini=?
>
> How can I group them?

REFARGSEXCLUDE  /stock/alphalist.asp
see docs/include.html

HTH,

--
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Re: [analog-help] FILEEXCLUDE not working..(2)

1999-01-02 Thread Mitch Kutzko

At 09:45 AM 11/4/99 +, Stephen Turner wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Jason Linhart wrote:
> 
> > On 11/3/99 9:23 PM Mitch Kutzko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > 
> > >Can someone please try to tell me what's wrong with the FILEEXCLUDE I'm
> > >trying to get to work?  As I said in my previous posting, an "analog
> > >-settings" *says* things are set right, but the Images directory is still
> > >included in the stats.
> > 
> > Could you tell us all of the FILEINCLUDE and FILEEXCLUDE commands you 
> > have, in the order they appear in your configuration file. And can you 
> > also give us the exact text of one of the requests that you think should 
> > be excluded?

Here are the main guts from analog.cfg.  I've made almost no changes to the
template file supplied in the distribution.

PAGEINCLUDE *.ps,*.ps.gz
REQINCLUDE pages
LOGO "/Images/dast.gif"
LOGFORMAT MICROSOFT-NA
LOGFILE "C:\winnt\system32\logfiles\*.log"
IMAGEDIR "/stats/WebAnalogImages/"
HOSTNAME "NLANR/DAST, Year 2"
HOSTURL "http://dast.nlanr.net/"
OUTFILE "D:\inetpub\htdocs\stats\year2_noimages_noncsa.html"
ALL ON
FROM 981001
TO 990930
FILEEXCLUDE /Images/*
LINKINCLUDE pages
HOSTEXCLUDE 141.142.*.*
HOSTEXCLUDE 192.17.21.181
HOSTEXCLUDE 204.123.9.52
HOSTEXCLUDE 208.219.77.19

The only thing in the file below this are the multiple BROWOUTPUTALIAS,
REFALIAS, and TYPEOUTPUTALIAS statements that came with the distribution
sample file.

I'd expect that all of these image references would be excluded:

GET, /Images/consult2.gif, -, 
209.197.209.192, -, 8/27/99, 0:32:27, W3SVC, DAST, 141.142.5.17, 2359, 259,
260, 200, 0, GET, /Images/white.gif, -, 
138.26.15.176, -, 8/27/99, 0:34:34, W3SVC, DAST, 141.142.5.17, 0, 264, 72,
304, 0, GET, /index.html, -, 
138.26.15.176, -, 8/27/99, 0:34:35, W3SVC, DAST, 141.142.5.17, 1344, 311,
72, 304, 0, GET, /Images/white.gif, -, 
138.26.15.176, -, 8/27/99, 0:34:35, W3SVC, DAST, 141.142.5.17, 156, 312,
72, 304, 0, GET, /Images/dast.gif, -, 
138.26.15.176, -, 8/27/99, 0:34:35, W3SVC, DAST, 141.142.5.17, 219, 319,
72, 304, 0, GET, /Images/Blackholes.gif, -, 
138.26.15.176, -, 8/27/99, 0:34:35, W3SVC, DAST, 141.142.5.17, 0, 315, 72,
304, 0, GET, /Images/getstart.gif, -, 
138.26.15.176, -, 8/27/99, 0:34:35, W3SVC, DAST, 141.142.5.17, 0, 311, 72,
304, 0, GET, /Images/help.gif, -, 
138.26.15.176, -, 8/27/99, 0:34:35, W3SVC, DAST, 141.142.5.17, 0, 315, 72,
304, 0, GET, /Images/resource.gif, -, 
138.26.15.176, -, 8/27/99, 0:34:36, W3SVC, DAST, 141.142.5.17, 328, 319,
72, 304, 0, GET, /Images/nsf_t_logo.gif, -, 
138.26.15.176, -, 8/27/99, 0:34:36, W3SVC, DAST, 141.142.5.17, 282, 314,
72, 304, 0, GET, /Images/relate.gif, -, 

> And any FILEALIASes.

No FILEALIAS commands at all.

> You could include a pointer to the URL of the report too if you want.

http://dast.nlanr.net/stats/year2_noimages_noncsa.html
> 
> > The first INCLUDE/EXCLUDE that matches is the one used. Also it is easy 
> > to mis-spell things when making up INCLUDE/EXCLUDE statments.
> > 
> Your command certainly looked right. I wonder if case sensitivity could be a
> problem. If you're running analog on a Unix machine, and you exclude
> /Images/* it won't also exclude /images/* . So if your logs come from a
> Windows machine but you're running the analysis on a Unix machine, you need
> to set CASE INSENSITIVE.

Our web server is run, the stats are stored, and analog is run on the same
Windows box, which is running NT Server 4.0, SP3.  Haven't tried CASE
INSENSITIVE, but will if you think it'll make any difference.  (I don't
think it will, though... ;-) ) 


Thanks for looking at this!

Mitch
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Re: [analog-help] FILEEXCLUDE not working..(2)

1999-01-02 Thread Mitch Kutzko

That's got it -- Thanks!!

I've currently got all three of these in a row:
CASE INSENSITIVE
FILEEXCLUDE /Images/*
FILEEXCLUDE /images/*

And it works.

(Although I would *swear* I tried both cases yesterday, since the output
used lowercase for what it showed in the directory report.  Oh well.)

I'll upgrade to a newer version just as soon as I have a chance to breath.
;-)

Thanks again!

Mitch

At 02:29 PM 11/4/99 +, you wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Mitch Kutzko wrote:
> >
> > http://dast.nlanr.net/stats/year2_noimages_noncsa.html
> 
> OK, got it now. You're using a very old version of analog which didn't
> handle CASE INSENSITIVE properly. You need to exclude /images/* not
> /Images/* and it should work. Better still, upgrade to 3.32 or 3.90beta2
> (which are backwards compatible).

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in the course of expressing them.  The young become good communicators if
they have parents or relatives or teachers who are good listeners.
 
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Re: [analog-help] Browser and OS reports

1999-01-02 Thread Stephen Turner

You want the Browser Summary, not the Browser Report.

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Re: [analog-help] Browser and OS reports

1999-01-02 Thread Cameron Cole

There is a very good chance that I am not using the SUBBROW command correctly,
however I have tried that before and cannot seem to generate the output that I
would like to get. In the browser report I am interested only in the browser
major.minor version numbers, not the os on which the browser operates. Here is
a sample of the output I would like to have in the browser output, I have
obtained this using BROWALIAS. If I can accomplish the same using SUBBROW can
someone please show me how, or point me to documentation I can read. I have
combed through all of the analog docs, FAQs, the mail list archive, and have
come up empty.
Here is the sample of what I want:

reqs:  %reqs: pages: %pages: Mbytes: %bytes: browser
: --: -: --: --: --: ---
5837: 31.42%:   170:  3.78%:  21.62: 32.27%: MSIE 4.01
4965: 26.73%:  4137: 92.04%:  17.43: 26.01%: Netscape 3.01
2052: 11.05%:46:  1.02%:   7.36: 10.99%: Netscape 4.5x
1221:  6.57%:30:  0.67%:   4.22:  6.30%: Netscape 4.05
 731:  3.94%:16:  0.36%:   2.77:  4.13%: Netscape 4.04
 660:  3.55%:18:  0.40%:   2.63:  3.93%: MSIE 3.02
 571:  3.07%:18:  0.40%:   1.87:  2.79%: MSIE 5.0 Beta
 419:  2.26%:13:  0.29%:   1.60:  2.39%: Netscape 4.0
 366:  1.97%: 7:  0.16%:   1.18:  1.77%: MSIE 4.0
 353:  1.90%: 6:  0.13%:   1.30:  1.94%: Netscape 4.06
 259:  1.39%: 4:  0.09%:   0.90:  1.34%: Netscape 4.03
 238:  1.28%: 5:  0.11%:   0.99:  1.48%: MSIE 3.01
 196:  1.06%: 5:  0.11%:   0.75:  1.12%: MSIE 3.0
 193:  1.04%: 2:  0.04%:   0.70:  1.05%: Netscape 3.0
 103:  0.55%: 2:  0.04%:   0.37:  0.56%: Netscape 4.02
 101:  0.54%: 2:  0.04%:   0.31:  0.48%: Netscape 4.01
  92:  0.50%: 0:   :   0.32:  0.49%: Netscape 3.04
  60:  0.32%: 0:   :   0.13:  0.21%: Netscape 2.02
  39:  0.21%: 6:  0.13%:   0.16:  0.24%: MSIE 4.5
  35:  0.19%: 0:   :   0.12:  0.19%: Netscape 3.02
  23:  0.12%: 0:   :   0.05:  0.08%: Netscape 3.03
  22:  0.12%: 2:  0.04%:   0.04:  0.06%: AOL 3.0

and this tromps on the OS report. 

Here is what I get using SUBBROW Mozilla/*.* in the browser summary. MSIE is
all lumped together under the heading MSIE and I cannot get version
information. Am I using SUBBROW incorrectly? Another quick question too: how
can Mozilla (aka: Netscape I assume) be served 94% of the pages but only
account for 55% of the requests with MSIE recording 42% of requests and 5% of
pages? 

 reqs:  %reqs: pages: %pages: Mbytes: %bytes: browser
-: --: -: --: --: --: ---
10348: 55.71%:  4258: 94.73%:  36.95: 55.13%: Mozilla
 4233: 22.79%:  4126: 91.79%:  15.18: 22.65%:   Mozilla/3.01
 2043: 11.00%:46:  1.02%:   7.33: 10.95%:   Mozilla/4.5
 1219:  6.56%:30:  0.67%:   4.20:  6.27%:   Mozilla/4.05
  731:  3.94%:16:  0.36%:   2.77:  4.13%:   Mozilla/4.04
  338:  1.82%: 5:  0.11%:   1.26:  1.89%:   Mozilla/4.06
  316:  1.70%: 6:  0.13%:   0.99:  1.49%:   Mozilla/3.01C-SYMPA
  284:  1.53%: 8:  0.18%:   0.99:  1.49%:   Mozilla/4.08
  259:  1.39%: 4:  0.09%:   0.90:  1.34%:   Mozilla/4.03
  130:  0.70%: 5:  0.11%:   0.56:  0.84%:   Mozilla/4.07
  103:  0.55%: 4:  0.09%:   0.35:  0.53%:   Mozilla/3.01Gold
  103:  0.55%: 2:  0.04%:   0.37:  0.56%:   Mozilla/4.02
  101:  0.54%: 2:  0.04%:   0.31:  0.48%:   Mozilla/4.01
   96:  0.52%: 1:  0.02%:   0.30:  0.45%:   Mozilla/3.0
   74:  0.40%: 0:   :   0.26:  0.39%:   Mozilla/3.04
   41:  0.22%: 0:   :   0.13:  0.20%:   Mozilla/3.0C-NC320
   35:  0.19%: 0:   :   0.05:  0.08%:   Mozilla/2.02E-SYMPA
   34:  0.18%: 0:   :   0.14:  0.21%:   Mozilla/3.0C-E-KIT
   26:  0.14%: 0:   :   0.11:  0.17%:   Mozilla/3.02Gold
   23:  0.12%: 0:   :   0.06:  0.10%:   Mozilla/3.01C-KIT
   18:  0.10%: 0:   :   0.06:  0.10%:   Mozilla/3.04Gold
 7927: 42.68%:   229:  5.09%:  29.27: 43.67%: MSIE
  278:  1.50%: 3:  0.07%:   0.73:  1.10%: Mozilla (compatible)
9:  0.05%: 0:   :   0.01:  0.02%: HtmlViewer

Thanks again everyone,

Cameron.

--- Stephen Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Don't you just want the Browser Summary? (with SUBBROW)
> 
> -- 
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>Dog. Instead, we will show Mortal Kombat: Annihilation." Cable & Wireless
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[analog-help] Display up to 10000 hosts

1999-01-02 Thread Mihalis Tsoukalos

Hello to everyone.
As you may already know I am a beginner on analog so forgive me if I am
asking elementary questions.

I want to be able to display on the Host Report up to 1 hosts (for
example) or hosts with more than xx requests.
How can I do that?

Also on the Referrer Report I have entries of the following type:

   2645:   http://www.in.gr/stocks/alphalist.asp?ini=&Kgr;
   2442:   http://www.in.gr/stocks/alphalist.asp?ini=&Pgr;
   2382:   http://www.in.gr/stocks/alphalist.asp?ini=&Dgr;
   1984:   http://www.in.gr/stocks/alphalist.asp?ini=&Tgr;
   1908:   http://www.in.gr/stocks/alphalist.asp?ini=&Igr;
   1821:   http://www.in.gr/stocks/alphalist.asp?ini=?

How can I group them?

Note: I have analog 3.32

many thanks in advance,
mihalis.


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Re: [analog-help] FILEEXCLUDE not working..(2)

1999-01-02 Thread Jeremy Wadsack



Mitch Kutzko wrote:

> Here are the main guts from analog.cfg.  I've made almost no changes to the
> template file supplied in the distribution.
>
> PAGEINCLUDE *.ps,*.ps.gz
> REQINCLUDE pages
> LOGO "/Images/dast.gif"

Does the fact that you ask for the logo here?


>
> LOGFORMAT MICROSOFT-NA
> LOGFILE "C:\winnt\system32\logfiles\*.log"
> IMAGEDIR "/stats/WebAnalogImages/"
> HOSTNAME "NLANR/DAST, Year 2"
> HOSTURL "http://dast.nlanr.net/"
> OUTFILE "D:\inetpub\htdocs\stats\year2_noimages_noncsa.html"
> ALL ON
> FROM 981001
> TO 990930
> FILEEXCLUDE /Images/*

Affect the exclusion of this directory here?

I don't know the guts of Analog as well as other people here, but that's the first
thing that I noticed. Second is that I don't see any requests for /Images/* in
your request report! So FILEEXCLUDE seems to work, somewhat, although it is still
in the directory report.

We use things like
FILEEXCLUDE /stats/*
FILEEXCLUDE /tools/*
FILEEXCLUDE /cgi-bin/*
FILEEXCLUDE /digitalgroup/comp/*
which work just fine. So I would put my money on either (a) CASE INSENSTIVE or (b)
the LOGO command.

HTH,


--
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Re: [analog-help] FILEEXCLUDE not working..(2)

1999-01-02 Thread Stephen Turner

On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Mitch Kutzko wrote:
>
> http://dast.nlanr.net/stats/year2_noimages_noncsa.html

OK, got it now. You're using a very old version of analog which didn't
handle CASE INSENSITIVE properly. You need to exclude /images/* not
/Images/* and it should work. Better still, upgrade to 3.32 or 3.90beta2
(which are backwards compatible).

> A Polar bear is really just a Cartesian bear undergoing a coordinate
> transformation.

Nice sig.

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Re: [analog-help] Browser and OS reports

1999-01-02 Thread Stephen Turner

On Wed, 3 Nov 1999, Cameron Cole wrote:
> 
> I am interested in a separate browser report and a
> separate OS report as is now available in analog 4.
> (beta 3.9b2) In the browser report I have tryed to
> condense the very verbose output down to major.minor
> version levels of each browser using BROWALIAS in my
> config file. The problem is when I use BROWALIAS to
> condense the listing, I lose all output for the OS
> report.
> [...]
> 
> My question is: Is there a way that I can get the
> browser report I would like to see and not stomp on
> the OS report? 
> 

Don't you just want the Browser Summary? (with SUBBROW)

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Re: [analog-help] Re: Include file syntax

1999-01-02 Thread Stephen Turner

On Wed, 3 Nov 1999, Joshua P. Cooley wrote:

> On Wed, 3 Nov 1999, Dave Greco wrote:
> 
> > When I run analog, I get the following Warning:
> > 
> > /usr/local/analog/bin/analog: Warning C: Too many arguments for configuration
> >command: ignoring end of line starting:
> >BROWALIAS Mozilla compatible
> >(For help on all errors and warnings, see docs/errors.html)
> 
> Alias terms with spaces in them need to be in quotes so you probably need 
> to change this BROWALIAS to:
> 
> BROWALIAS "Mozilla compatible" "whatever you really want it to say"
> 

Incidentally, 3.90beta does a much better job of detecting browser types, so
you may not need to use BROWALIASes with that version at all.

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Re: [analog-help] FILEEXCLUDE not working..(2)

1999-01-02 Thread Stephen Turner

On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Jason Linhart wrote:

> On 11/3/99 9:23 PM Mitch Kutzko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> >Can someone please try to tell me what's wrong with the FILEEXCLUDE I'm
> >trying to get to work?  As I said in my previous posting, an "analog
> >-settings" *says* things are set right, but the Images directory is still
> >included in the stats.
> 
> Could you tell us all of the FILEINCLUDE and FILEEXCLUDE commands you 
> have, in the order they appear in your configuration file. And can you 
> also give us the exact text of one of the requests that you think should 
> be excluded?
> 

And any FILEALIASes.

You could include a pointer to the URL of the report too if you want.

> The first INCLUDE/EXCLUDE that matches is the one used. Also it is easy 
> to mis-spell things when making up INCLUDE/EXCLUDE statments.
> 

Your command certainly looked right. I wonder if case sensitivity could be a
problem. If you're running analog on a Unix machine, and you exclude
/Images/* it won't also exclude /images/* . So if your logs come from a
Windows machine but you're running the analysis on a Unix machine, you need
to set CASE INSENSITIVE.

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Re: [analog-help] Re:

1999-01-02 Thread Stephen Turner

On Wed, 3 Nov 1999, Aengus Lawlor wrote:
> 
> If you Log the User Agent field, you can make certain assumptions about 
> the client. This may significantly increase the size of your log file, 
> though, as the Agent string is sometimes as long as the rest of the log 
> entry, excluding the referrer.
> 

Indeed, analog 3.90beta gives an OS Report based in this information.

> >4. How well IIS 4.0 extended format is supported by analog 3.32?
> 
> It's not IIS4 extended format, it's W3C Extended format (except for the 
> Time-Taken field that we're arging about elsewhere :-).  I think it's 
> fair to say that W3C Extended logs created by IIS4 are fully supported 
> by Analog 3.32.

Well, and a couple of other changes. But yes, analog detects that it's an
IIS server, and makes the necessary changes to the draft spec.

One thing you have to be careful to do is log the date on every line of the
logfile, not just the time. Otherwise analog has no way of knowing which
date later lines in the logfile were on (it's not guaranteed that it's
rotated at midnight GMT every day).

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Re: [analog-help] Processing Time on IIS

1999-01-02 Thread Stephen Turner

On Wed, 3 Nov 1999, Jason Linhart wrote:
> 
> I've never seen Microsoft actualy say what units the 
> field in the logs are in, although some people such as 
>  say that they are 
> milliseconds and also claim to be quoting Microsoft.
> 

That's the IIS format not the W3C format though.

I'm rather surprised if they log in milliseconds in the IIS format and
centiseconds in the W3C format. But maybe the people who wrote those two
bits of code didn't talk to each other. If even NASA can lose $125m of
spacecraft because one team worked in imperial and one in metric units, what
hope is there? 

> Anyhow, I got that they are in 1/100ths through emperical testing. 
> Summary produces a modem speed report based on the TIME-TAKEN number and 
> I get a near perfect match to the modem speed distribution observed on 
> other sites when I assume the numbers are 1/100ths of seconds.
> 

That's pretty convincing. But isn't it possible to check very easily by
writing a CGI script that deliberately takes a couple of seconds to
complete? It would then be obvious whether it logged 200 or 2000.

I suppose there's no way to get an answer out of Microsoft if it's not at
support.microsoft.com?

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