Re: [analog-help] REFEXCLUDE
> > Something I thought could not be set... How do I alter the floor?? > > HOSTFLOOR 1r. See docs/othreps.html#FLOOR and related report docs. Thanks Jeremy - couldn't find it for looking! > > > REFEXCLUDE http://mps.com/* will throw away the first line, and the > > > general summary will record 1 hit, and one unwanted entry. The HOST > > > report will only show one HOST - 6.7.8.9, because you have totally > > > excluded the entry from 1.2.3.4 (because it was referred from > > > http://mps.com) > > > > It sounds like you are saying I don't need this if I use HOSTEXCLUDE > > *.mps.*?? > > No HOSTEXCLUDE will exclude all requests made from the host, probably just > the webserver, but maybe all requests in the company (depends how your DNS > is setup). > > REFEXCLUDE will exlcude all request made from links within the site from > all reports and all results. OK, makes sense. Best regards, Brian This is the analog-help mailing list. To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the main BODY OF THE MESSAGE. List archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/analog-help@lists.isite.net/
Re: [analog-help] REFEXCLUDE
Brian Clifton wrote: > > (assuming you've set your floor low enough). > > Something I thought could not be set... How do I alter the floor?? HOSTFLOOR 1r. See docs/othreps.html#FLOOR and related report docs. > > REFEXCLUDE http://mps.com/* will throw away the first line, and the > > general summary will record 1 hit, and one unwanted entry. The HOST > > report will only show one HOST - 6.7.8.9, because you have totally > > excluded the entry from 1.2.3.4 (because it was referred from > > http://mps.com) > > It sounds like you are saying I don't need this if I use HOSTEXCLUDE > *.mps.*?? No HOSTEXCLUDE will exclude all requests made from the host, probably just the webserver, but maybe all requests in the company (depends how your DNS is setup). REFEXCLUDE will exlcude all request made from links within the site from all reports and all results. Jeremy Wadsack Wadsack-Allen Digital Group This is the analog-help mailing list. To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the main BODY OF THE MESSAGE. List archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/analog-help@lists.isite.net/
Re: [analog-help] REFEXCLUDE
> Brian Clifton wrote: > > >OK, so as I am not trying to be clever and use specific reports, then all > >I need are HOSTEXCLUDE and REFEXCLUDE > > > >My thinking (hope) for using the later is that I want to see what > >external pages e.g. search engines are referring visitors to us. > > In which case, you may find the REFSITE report useful, rather than > the referrer report OK, it looks like I should have REFERRER ON and REFSITE ON. My reason behind using both is so that REFSITE ON will give me the Search Engine address e.g. altavista.com, while REFERRER ON will give me the full url including the query term e.g. altavista.com?search=a_keyword_phrase. > I think there may still be some confusion about what you want to do, and > what you need to do to achieve it. Most probably, but you are definitly helping :-) > Let's take these 2 imaginary log entries: > 1.2.3.4 - - 12:34:56 GET /folder/page.htm 200 "http://mps.com/links.htm" > 6.7.8.9 - - 06:54:32 GET /subdir/index.htm 200 "http://yahoo.com" > > HOSTEXCLUDE 1.2.3.4 will throw away the first line - Analog will > report only a single hit in your log, and 1 unwanted entry. The > request report will only show one request - the request for > /subdir/index.htm. The Referrer report will only show 1 entry, for > http://yahoo.com (assuming you've set your floor low enough). Something I thought could not be set... How do I alter the floor?? > If 1.2.3.4 resolves to user1.mps.com then HOSTEXCLUDE *.mps.com will also > throw away that line. (HOSTEXCLUDE http://*.mps.com won't do anything at > all, as far as I know - HOSTs won't match a string that starts with > "http://"). OK, I have changed my HOSTEXCLUDE *.mps.*, as for some sites we have multiple domains e.g. mps.com, mps.net etc. > REFEXCLUDE http://mps.com/* will throw away the first line, and the > general summary will record 1 hit, and one unwanted entry. The HOST > report will only show one HOST - 6.7.8.9, because you have totally > excluded the entry from 1.2.3.4 (because it was referred from > http://mps.com) It sounds like you are saying I don't need this if I use HOSTEXCLUDE *.mps.*?? > REFREPEXCLUDE will just exclude the first line from the Reference > report, so the only entry on the REFERRER report will be yahoo.com. > The general summary will record 2 hits, and no unwanted entries. The HOST > report will show 2 hosts, the REQUEST report will show 2 files were > requested Ok, understood. I have removed this. > (By the way, please try to reply after the text you are quoting, rather > than before). Hope you don't mind my mix 'n' match on this one?? Best rgeards, Brian This is the analog-help mailing list. To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the main BODY OF THE MESSAGE. List archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/analog-help@lists.isite.net/
Re: [analog-help] REFEXCLUDE
Brian Clifton wrote: >OK, so as I am not trying to be clever and use specific reports, then >all I need are HOSTEXCLUDE and REFEXCLUDE > >My thinking (hope) for using the later is that I want to see what >external pages e.g. search engines are referring visitors to us. In which case, you may find the REFSITE report useful, rather than the referrer report I think there may still be some confusion about what you want to do, and what you need to do to achieve it. Let's take these 2 imaginary log entries: 1.2.3.4 - - 12:34:56 GET /folder/page.htm 200 "http://mps.com/links.htm" 6.7.8.9 - - 06:54:32 GET /subdir/index.htm 200 "http://yahoo.com" The first line is a link from your own server (mps.com - shortened to keep everything on a single line) the second is an external reference from yahoo.com. HOSTEXCLUDE 1.2.3.4 will throw away the first line - Analog will report only a single hit in your log, and 1 unwanted entry. The request report will only show one request - the request for /subdir/index.htm. The Referrer report will only show 1 entry, for http://yahoo.com (assuming you've set your floor low enough). If 1.2.3.4 resolves to user1.mps.com then HOSTEXCLUDE *.mps.com will also throw away that line. (HOSTEXCLUDE http://*.mps.com won't do anything at all, as far as I know - HOSTs won't match a string that starts with "http://"). REFEXCLUDE http://mps.com/* will throw away the first line, and the general summary will record 1 hit, and one unwanted entry. The HOST report will only show one HOST - 6.7.8.9, because you have totally excluded the entry from 1.2.3.4 (because it was referred from http://mps.com) REFREPEXCLUDE will just exclude the first line from the Reference report, so the only entry on the REFERRER report will be yahoo.com. The general summary will record 2 hits, and no unwanted entries. The HOST report will show 2 hosts, the REQUEST report will show 2 files were requested Hope this helps. Aengus (By the way, please try to reply after the text you are quoting, rather than before). > > Brian Clifton wrote: > > > Will HOSTEXCLUDE, HOSTREPEXCLUDE, REFEXCLUDE, REFREPEXCLUDE be enough to > > eliminate all internal referrers/hosts from all reports/analysis or do I > > need all the EXCLUDE commands e.g. > > > > DOMEXCLUDE, FAILREFEXCLUDE etc. > > The commands HOSTEXCLUDE, REFEXCLUDE, etc. remove all lines from the input > that contain those values. So > > HOSTEXCLUDE http://www.mpswholesale.* > > Will remove all requests made from that host from ALL reports. Similarly, > > REFEXCLUDE http://www.mpswholesale.* > > Will remove all requests that were referred by the site. In essence it > will leave only you 'entry pages' the pages people first came to (or typed > in, or selected from bookmarks, etc.). > > The HOSTREPEXCLUDE, DOMEXCLUDE, REFREPEXCLUDE, etc. commands will remove > those entries from the specified reports. So > > REFREPEXCLUDE http://www.mpswholesale.* > > Will remove all internal referrers from the referrer report. But will not > remove traffic generated by those requests from other reports. > > HTH, > > Jeremy Wadsack > Wadsack-Allen Digital Group This is the analog-help mailing list. To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the main BODY OF THE MESSAGE. List archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/analog-help@lists.isite.net/
Re: [analog-help] REFEXCLUDE
Hi Jeremy OK, so as I am not trying to be clever and use specific reports, then all I need are HOSTEXCLUDE and REFEXCLUDE My thinking (hope) for using the later is that I want to see what external pages e.g. search engines are referring visitors to us. Best regards, Brian > > > Brian Clifton wrote: > > > Will HOSTEXCLUDE, HOSTREPEXCLUDE, REFEXCLUDE, REFREPEXCLUDE be enough to > > eliminate all internal referrers/hosts from all reports/analysis or do I > > need all the EXCLUDE commands e.g. > > > > DOMEXCLUDE, FAILREFEXCLUDE etc. > > The commands HOSTEXCLUDE, REFEXCLUDE, etc. remove all lines from the input > that contain those values. So > > HOSTEXCLUDE http://www.mpswholesale.* > > Will remove all requests made from that host from ALL reports. Similarly, > > REFEXCLUDE http://www.mpswholesale.* > > Will remove all requests that were referred by the site. In essence it > will leave only you 'entry pages' the pages people first came to (or typed > in, or selected from bookmarks, etc.). > > The HOSTREPEXCLUDE, DOMEXCLUDE, REFREPEXCLUDE, etc. commands will remove > those entries from the specified reports. So > > REFREPEXCLUDE http://www.mpswholesale.* > > Will remove all internal referrers from the referrer report. But will not > remove traffic generated by those requests from other reports. > > HTH, > > Jeremy Wadsack > Wadsack-Allen Digital Group > > > > This is the analog-help mailing list. To unsubscribe from this mailing > list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" > in the main BODY OF THE MESSAGE. List archived at > http://www.mail-archive.com/analog-help@lists.isite.net/ > > > > This is the analog-help mailing list. To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the main BODY OF THE MESSAGE. List archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/analog-help@lists.isite.net/
Re: [analog-help] REFEXCLUDE
Brian Clifton wrote: > Will HOSTEXCLUDE, HOSTREPEXCLUDE, REFEXCLUDE, REFREPEXCLUDE be enough to > eliminate all internal referrers/hosts from all reports/analysis or do I > need all the EXCLUDE commands e.g. > > DOMEXCLUDE, FAILREFEXCLUDE etc. The commands HOSTEXCLUDE, REFEXCLUDE, etc. remove all lines from the input that contain those values. So HOSTEXCLUDE http://www.mpswholesale.* Will remove all requests made from that host from ALL reports. Similarly, REFEXCLUDE http://www.mpswholesale.* Will remove all requests that were referred by the site. In essence it will leave only you 'entry pages' the pages people first came to (or typed in, or selected from bookmarks, etc.). The HOSTREPEXCLUDE, DOMEXCLUDE, REFREPEXCLUDE, etc. commands will remove those entries from the specified reports. So REFREPEXCLUDE http://www.mpswholesale.* Will remove all internal referrers from the referrer report. But will not remove traffic generated by those requests from other reports. HTH, Jeremy Wadsack Wadsack-Allen Digital Group This is the analog-help mailing list. To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the main BODY OF THE MESSAGE. List archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/analog-help@lists.isite.net/
Re: [analog-help] REFEXCLUDE
Hi Stephen Sorry I am replying the wrong (deleted by mistake) message... I take it *.mpswholesale.* would also equally be correct to http://www.mpswholesale.* Will HOSTEXCLUDE, HOSTREPEXCLUDE, REFEXCLUDE, REFREPEXCLUDE be enough to eliminate all internal referrers/hosts from all reports/analysis or do I need all the EXCLUDE commands e.g. DOMEXCLUDE, FAILREFEXCLUDE etc. I ask because I will be doing a comparison with the latest WebTrends and want to make sure I will be comparing like with like. In WT, my options are to exclude referrer and user address. In both cases these will be http://www.mpswholesale.* Of course I will report to the list my results. Best regards, Brian > On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Jeremy Wadsack wrote: > > > > > > > Brian Clifton wrote: > > > > > HOSTEXCLUDE www.mpswholesale.*,194.70.240.235,*u-net* > > > REFEXCLUDE www.mpswholesale.*,194.70.240.235,*u-net* > > > > The INCLUDE/EXCLUDE commands do not support comma-separated lists. > > Yes they do. > > -- > Stephen Turner http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~sret1/ > Statistical Laboratory, Wilberforce Road, Cambridge, CB3 0WB, England > "The new operating system will recover more easily from system crashes." > (Microsoft, aiming high with Windows Millennium) > > > This is the analog-help mailing list. To unsubscribe from this mailing > list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" > in the main BODY OF THE MESSAGE. List archived at > http://www.mail-archive.com/analog-help@lists.isite.net/ > > > This is the analog-help mailing list. To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the main BODY OF THE MESSAGE. List archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/analog-help@lists.isite.net/
Re: [analog-help] REFEXCLUDE
On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Brian Clifton wrote: > Hi there! > > I wish to exclude a domains internal references to pages within > itself and so have the following 2 lines in cfg: > > HOSTEXCLUDE www.mpswholesale.*,194.70.240.235,*u-net* > REFEXCLUDE www.mpswholesale.*,194.70.240.235,*u-net* > > mpswholesale is no-where in the list of Hosts Report :-), but the > Referrer report is full of e.g. > > www.mpswholesale.com/side.htm > www.mpswholesale.com/main.htm etc... > > Am I missing something?? > Yes, the "http://". But I'm not sure that you're doing what you want to anyway. Your commands exclude all requests from internal hosts, and all requests from any host that followed an internal link. At the very least, I think you want REFREPEXCLUDE not REFEXCLUDE. -- Stephen Turner http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~sret1/ Statistical Laboratory, Wilberforce Road, Cambridge, CB3 0WB, England "The new operating system will recover more easily from system crashes." (Microsoft, aiming high with Windows Millennium) This is the analog-help mailing list. To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the main BODY OF THE MESSAGE. List archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/analog-help@lists.isite.net/
Re: [analog-help] REFEXCLUDE
On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Jeremy Wadsack wrote: > > > Brian Clifton wrote: > > > HOSTEXCLUDE www.mpswholesale.*,194.70.240.235,*u-net* > > REFEXCLUDE www.mpswholesale.*,194.70.240.235,*u-net* > > The INCLUDE/EXCLUDE commands do not support comma-separated lists. Yes they do. -- Stephen Turner http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~sret1/ Statistical Laboratory, Wilberforce Road, Cambridge, CB3 0WB, England "The new operating system will recover more easily from system crashes." (Microsoft, aiming high with Windows Millennium) This is the analog-help mailing list. To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the main BODY OF THE MESSAGE. List archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/analog-help@lists.isite.net/
Re: [analog-help] REFEXCLUDE
Brian Clifton wrote: > HOSTEXCLUDE www.mpswholesale.*,194.70.240.235,*u-net* > REFEXCLUDE www.mpswholesale.*,194.70.240.235,*u-net* The INCLUDE/EXCLUDE commands do not support comma-separated lists. Rather you include a command for each item: HOSTEXCLUDE www.mpswholesale.* HOSTEXCLUDE 194.70.240.235 HOSTEXCLUDE *u-net* REFEXCLUDE www.mpswholesale.* REFEXCLUDE 194.70.240.235 REFEXCLUDE *u-net* HTH, Jeremy Wadsack Wadsack-Allen Digital Group This is the analog-help mailing list. To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the main BODY OF THE MESSAGE. List archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/analog-help@lists.isite.net/
[analog-help] REFEXCLUDE
Hi there! I wish to exclude a domains internal references to pages within itself and so have the following 2 lines in cfg: HOSTEXCLUDE www.mpswholesale.*,194.70.240.235,*u-net* REFEXCLUDE www.mpswholesale.*,194.70.240.235,*u-net* mpswholesale is no-where in the list of Hosts Report :-), but the Referrer report is full of e.g. www.mpswholesale.com/side.htm www.mpswholesale.com/main.htm etc... Am I missing something?? Best regards, Brian This is the analog-help mailing list. To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the main BODY OF THE MESSAGE. List archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/analog-help@lists.isite.net/
Re: [analog-help] Refexclude
On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Alejandro Fernandez wrote: > Hi, > > Last week I was trying to get an accurate number of search engine hits and > trying to find out who they were. So I wrote a lot of refexclude lines in the > analog.cfg file > > This week, I ran an incremental report on the same site, with the refexclude > lines still in and it seems our hits have halved! > > Is this because refexclude is actually filtering out all the referrers from the > entire report? > > If so, can I get it to exclude the refexcluded referrers only from the > "referring site" report? > Yes. REFSITEEXCLUDE does that. (And REFREPEXCLUDE from the Referrer Report, etc.) -- Stephen Turner[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~sret1/ Statistical Laboratory, 16 Mill Lane, Cambridge CB2 1SB, England "Due to the conflict in Kosovo, we will not be showing the movie Wag the Dog. Instead, we will show Mortal Kombat: Annihilation." Cable & Wireless This is the analog-help mailing list. To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe analog-help" in the main BODY OF THE MESSAGE. List archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/analog-help@lists.isite.net/
[analog-help] Refexclude
Hi, Last week I was trying to get an accurate number of search engine hits and trying to find out who they were. So I wrote a lot of refexclude lines in the analog.cfg file This week, I ran an incremental report on the same site, with the refexclude lines still in and it seems our hits have halved! Is this because refexclude is actually filtering out all the referrers from the entire report? If so, can I get it to exclude the refexcluded referrers only from the "referring site" report? Thanks, Ale -- Alejandro Fernandez, "Virtual Communities made real" Webmaster Sift Plc., The Mill House, Redcliff Backs, Bristol BS1 6LY e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] t: ++44 117 915 9600 http://www.sift.co.uk This is the analog-help mailing list. To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe analog-help" in the main BODY OF THE MESSAGE. List archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/analog-help@lists.isite.net/
