Re[2]: [analog-help] real g2 statistic
Walter Vannini wrote: >> Also I am looking for a way to know how long a user has been >> connected in average to the video (if anyone knows how to get that, >> with analog or something else) >you just can't know that. You can maybe guess. The conclusions you >come to are probably not worth the price of yesterday's newspaper, >anyway. The G2 server is a streaming media server - that means that it does know how long a user has been connected - the connection is maintained until the end of the stream or the user stops it. I don't know whether G2 will log that information, but I'd be surprised if it doesn't (I'm told that the Microsoft Streaming Media server does log the length of the connection). It may log it as start time and end time, rather than elapsed time, or, if it only logs bytes sent, I imagine there must also be a field for which format was sent. (It's been a long time since I ran any RealMedia servers, but it's possible that the free version doesn't allow you to specify which fields to log - that's the kind of added value service that they tend to keep for the paid version, which isn't unreasonable). Aengus This is the analog-help mailing list. To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the main BODY OF THE MESSAGE. List archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/analog-help@lists.isite.net/
Re: [analog-help] real g2 statistic
Fabian - Can't help with the analog question, but I believe the stats analyser you need for Real Server is the one from Lariat Systems. There are details of that on the Real site (somewhere) but there is also regular discussion of Real topics in the realforum list, you can send subscribe with <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the following command in the body of your email message: subscribe realforum-digest A bit off-topic as regards Analog, but it may help:-) Peter Rose London UK In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Fabien Penso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Hi, > >I am looking for a way to make my g2 realserver statistics look nicer >than now. > >I use: > >LOGFORMAT (%S - %u [%d/%M/%Y:%h:%n:%j] "%j %r %j" %c %b%j) > >and it works fine but I still have requests/hits which is stupid in this >case. Anyone has a nice analog.conf that would give the best output >statistics ? >Also I am looking for a way to know how long a user has been connected >in average to the video (if anyone knows how to get that, with analog or >something else) > >Thanks. > >Fabien Penso >http://linuxfr.org/ > >This is the analog-help mailing list. To unsubscribe from this >mailing list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >with "unsubscribe" in the main BODY OF THE MESSAGE. >List archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/analog-help@lists.isite.net/ > "I don't like your fashion business mister" - Leonard Cohen / First We Take Manhattan This is the analog-help mailing list. To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the main BODY OF THE MESSAGE. List archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/analog-help@lists.isite.net/
Re: [analog-help] real g2 statistic
>In G2 real logfile you have the size of information which has been >transfered (like 20, etc). I was thinking using that to guess how >long the guy stayed connected, but with surestream it gets really >difficult. Apache and most HTTP servers allow you to log processing times, and Analog has a PROCTIME report. Maybe your G2 server has something similar? Otherwise, you may chart bytes against "typical" user modems' baud rates. To keep in touch with reality, I'd also suggest considering an efficiency parameter, usually 80-90% in off-peak hours and from 60% to 75% during peak hours (though it could even be worse). that is: 1MBytes / 28.8baud * 0,9 = 262+ seconds (4 minutes, 22 seconds and dimes) You'd want a reasonable statistics on modem speed distribution (what percent of users have which kind of modem), of course. I'd include 56K, 33.6, 28.8 and 14.4 modems, and compute each column at least twice, for peak and off-peak efficiency. This would give you a lot of columns and chatrs, but I think it's also the best way to insure you get a rasonable picture of what reality could be. The table and charts you'd get would still not be God's own word on stone, but it may still be better than nothing. I'm afraid you may not be able to do the "otherwise" part with analog, unless you tried to trick it into thinking it's all PROCTIME data. But then, you may be better off with a spreadsheet for this. Hope this helps. This is the analog-help mailing list. To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the main BODY OF THE MESSAGE. List archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/analog-help@lists.isite.net/
Re: [analog-help] real g2 statistic
Walter Vannini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Also I am looking for a way to know how long a user has been connected > >in average to the video (if anyone knows how to get that, with analog or > >something else) > > you just can't know that. You can maybe guess. The conclusions you come to > are probably not worth the price of yesterday's newspaper, anyway. Then > again, you might charge for it ore than for meaningful info. > > It's mad's mad's mad's world, sang the guy... Walter, Well I didn't say it was something we would sell to customers :) Also if I give this informations to someone I would surely say that this is very meaningful. In G2 real logfile you have the size of information which has been transfered (like 20, etc). I was thinking using that to guess how long the guy stayed connected, but with surestream it gets really difficult. I asked just in case someone knew how to do it, if noone knows then too bad (for me). -- Fabien Penso http://linuxfr.org/ http://www.somenews.com/ http://www.somelist.com/ This is the analog-help mailing list. To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the main BODY OF THE MESSAGE. List archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/analog-help@lists.isite.net/
Re: [analog-help] real g2 statistic
Hello, >Also I am looking for a way to know how long a user has been connected >in average to the video (if anyone knows how to get that, with analog or >something else) you just can't know that. You can maybe guess. The conclusions you come to are probably not worth the price of yesterday's newspaper, anyway. Then again, you might charge for it ore than for meaningful info. It's mad's mad's mad's world, sang the guy... Walter Vannini - Walter Vannini - Web Assessor[EMAIL PROTECTED] Human Systems"Information Architecture and Web Assessment" via Tabacchi 2, 20136 Milano, Italyvoice: +39(02) 58-10-34-02 PGP key available on key servers or on request This is the analog-help mailing list. To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the main BODY OF THE MESSAGE. List archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/analog-help@lists.isite.net/
[analog-help] real g2 statistic
Hi, I am looking for a way to make my g2 realserver statistics look nicer than now. I use: LOGFORMAT (%S - %u [%d/%M/%Y:%h:%n:%j] "%j %r %j" %c %b%j) and it works fine but I still have requests/hits which is stupid in this case. Anyone has a nice analog.conf that would give the best output statistics ? Also I am looking for a way to know how long a user has been connected in average to the video (if anyone knows how to get that, with analog or something else) Thanks. Fabien Penso http://linuxfr.org/ This is the analog-help mailing list. To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the main BODY OF THE MESSAGE. List archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/analog-help@lists.isite.net/
Re: [analog-help] real g2 statistic
On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Fabien Penso wrote: > Hi, > > I am looking for a way to make my g2 realserver statistics look nicer > than now. > > I use: > > LOGFORMAT (%S - %u [%d/%M/%Y:%h:%n:%j] "%j %r %j" %c %b%j) > > and it works fine but I still have requests/hits which is stupid in this > case. Anyone has a nice analog.conf that would give the best output > statistics ? You might find the most productive method is to edit the language file to change the words in the report. See the helper applications page for an example of this for mail logs. -- Stephen Turner http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~sret1/ Statistical Laboratory, 16 Mill Lane, Cambridge CB2 1SB, England "8th March 2000. National No Smoking Day. Ash Wednesday." (On a calendar) This is the analog-help mailing list. To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the main BODY OF THE MESSAGE. List archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/analog-help@lists.isite.net/
