Re: [analog-help] Counting requests from unique DNS's

1999-06-23 Thread Anonymous

On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Dave Reinhardt wrote:

> So what does this tell me
> Host Report
> ---
> Listing hosts with at least 100 requests, sorted alphabetically.
> 
> #reqs: %bytes: host
> -: --: 
>   752:   100%: [not listed: 59 hosts]
> -

It tells me that you had requests from 59 different hosts, but none of them
made as many as 100 requests.

It also tells me you've set your HOSTFLOOR too high. :)

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Re: [analog-help] Counting requests from unique DNS's

1999-06-22 Thread Anonymous

So what does this tell me
Host Report
---
Listing hosts with at least 100 requests, sorted alphabetically.

#reqs: %bytes: host
-: --: 
  752:   100%: [not listed: 59 hosts]
-
Dave

On Tue, 22 Jun 1999 20:03:45 +0100 (GMT)
Stephen Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Dave Reinhardt wrote:

> 
> Jeremy said:
> >>Most ISPs (good ones) have a ten-to-one ratio of users and incoming
> lines (bad ones have even more users per line).
> 
> Is the report then listing the name or IP#'s of the ISP rather than the
> domainName of the requesting Browser owner?
> 

It's the IP of the computer which requested the file from you. This may be
a dynamically allocated IP for the user, or just a proxy server.

The typical home user doesn't have any permanent IP address at all.

Anyway, the IP of the computer which requested it from you is all you know.

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Re: [analog-help] Counting requests from unique DNS's

1999-06-22 Thread Anonymous



Stephen Turner wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Dave Reinhardt wrote:
>
> >
> > Jeremy said:
> > >>Most ISPs (good ones) have a ten-to-one ratio of users and incoming
> > lines (bad ones have even more users per line).
> >
> > Is the report then listing the name or IP#'s of the ISP rather than the
> > domainName of the requesting Browser owner?
> >
>
> It's the IP of the computer which requested the file from you. This may be
> a dynamically allocated IP for the user, or just a proxy server.

The proxy server is an even better example of the problems that can happen here.
For example, the local university runs most of it's connections through a proxy
server. So one of the 18,000 students could hit your site from a computer lab on
campus and all you'll get in your logs is the IP number of the proxy server that
they are running through.

Even if it does provide a unique IP number for each computer on campus, you
still have as many as 18,000 students (not to mention faculty and staff) using
only about 250 computer, so it's very hard to tell when one user stops and
another starts.


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OutQuest Magazine
a Wadsack-Allen publication



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Re: [analog-help] Counting requests from unique DNS's

1999-06-22 Thread Anonymous

On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Dave Reinhardt wrote:

> 
> Jeremy said:
> >>Most ISPs (good ones) have a ten-to-one ratio of users and incoming
> lines (bad ones have even more users per line).
> 
> Is the report then listing the name or IP#'s of the ISP rather than the
> domainName of the requesting Browser owner?
> 

It's the IP of the computer which requested the file from you. This may be
a dynamically allocated IP for the user, or just a proxy server.

The typical home user doesn't have any permanent IP address at all.

Anyway, the IP of the computer which requested it from you is all you know.

-- 
Stephen Turner[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~sret1/
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   Dog. Instead, we will show Mortal Kombat: Annihilation." Cable & Wireless


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Re: [analog-help] Counting requests from unique DNS's

1999-06-22 Thread Anonymous


Jeremy said:
>>Most ISPs (good ones) have a ten-to-one ratio of users and incoming
lines (bad ones have even more users per line).

Is the report then listing the name or IP#'s of the ISP rather than the
domainName of the requesting Browser owner?

I am new to analog and would like to receive this info if possible
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Re: [analog-help] Counting requests from unique DNS's

1999-06-22 Thread Anonymous



"Lee, Bill" wrote:

> I'm trying to get a result that seems to be a hybrid of 2 reports: Request
> and Domain.  I'd like to get counts of total requests (Request report) and
> total unique DNS requests (no report?) of a specific file.  My thought is
> that these two numbers will bound the actual number of unique users.  Once I
> have this range, large as it may be, I can start making guesses and
> assumptions.

First, that's a dangerous assumption. Most ISPs (good ones) have a ten-to-one
ratio of users and incoming lines (bad ones have even more users per line). They
dynamically assign an IP number (unique DNS request) to each line as it connects
and the user maitains that IP number for the balance of their session. However,
the next dial-up user will get the same IP number and would appear to your logs
as the same user (by your assumptions), when in fact there may be ten times that
many (or more).

But, as long as you're aware of that (and it sounds like you are)

If you set up an analog config for the file in question, then the host report
will be exactly what you are looking for. It lists number of requests/host, but
each host is only listed once. Which gives you a count of unique hosts.


> Also, is it necessary to resolve numerical DNS's in order to produce a
> drill-down for the Domain report and/or for the report described in the
> previous paragraph?  Can I get the reports to simply list the unresolved
> numerical DNS's?

Turn off DNS resolving and it will only give you numerical numbers

HTH,

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