Re: [android-developers] Re: Device Seeding Program for Top Android Market Developers

2010-04-15 Thread Ove Olavgaard
I'll guess there will be more delays in Europe now that about 25% of all air
traffic is closed due to the vulcano in Iceland.
Probably more air traffic will be closing in the next few days.
Too bad.

Ove

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Device Seeding Program for Top Android Market Developers

2010-04-19 Thread Ove Olavgaard
Well, I have lost all hope. I realize that this was really just meant for
the US.
Been waiting 7 weeks a well, and can't get any info from Google, Shipping
partner or FedEx.

Personally I have no choice but to leave the Android platform:
- No Google merchant for northern europe means I cant sell applications
- No paid apps for customers in northern europe means my customers cant buy
- Its been like this 2 years now
- No word from Google when it will be available

Its really really sad, but I can't afford spending more time on Android,
without beeing able to create an income, while all my competitors in the US
can steal ideas and get paid.

Ove

2010/4/19 mscwd01 

> Many people have said the phones will be shipping not from the US but
> from a warehouse in Europe so I agree that the volcano shouldn't have
> any effect on delivering the phones. They would be sent over land not
> by air - which makes me wonder if there is another issue delaying the
> phones?
>
> On Apr 19, 12:25 pm, JDS  wrote:
> > No news from anybody in europe?
> >
> > Since the phones to EU, or at least to us in sweden, are shippen from
> > Frankfurt at least people in germany should have received theirs by
> > now, with or without any volcano?
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Re: [android-developers] Re: Device Seeding Program for Top Android Market Developers

2010-04-19 Thread Ove Olavgaard
That might be the case, but I just cant understand why they would ship them
by surface mail, when Google sent us mail with a 2-4 weeks timeframe.
As a professional shipping partner, it should not be any problem shipping
5-20.000 units at all, considering all the other phones they ship daily.
And not beeing able to deliver within 7 weeks??? Completely unbelievable.
Its obvious that there some kind of big problem with Nexus-1 deliveries
here.

2010/4/19 String 

> On Apr 19, 12:20 pm, David C  wrote:
>
> > I received the same message has you :
> >
> > >All of the phones have been shipped already. Please be patient; if your
> phone has not arrived yet, it is probably in transit and will arrive
> shortly.
>
> Responses like this have been posted to this thread for some time now,
> long enough for the devices to have arrived by any normal shipping
> method. Then it struck me... What if ALL the phones were indeed
> shipped from the US?
>
> This is pure speculation, you understand, but it fits the facts as
> we've been given them. Surface mail from the US to Europe usually
> takes 6-8 weeks, so it's entirely possible that our phones could have
> been in transit since mid-March. Maybe the handsets were all with
> BrightPoint in the US, and rather than move them to Europe and THEN
> ship them, somebody decided to do it all in one step, and just ship
> direct.
>
> It also could explain why the vast majority of US developers got
> Droids rather than Nexii. Perhaps BrightPoint had approximately equal
> numbers in stock, but after allocating a Nexus One to each non-US
> recipient, it was mostly Droids left over.
>
> Is that completely crazy? :^)
>
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Re: [android-developers] Re: Device Seeding Program for Top Android Market Developers

2010-04-20 Thread Ove Olavgaard
> It is, after all a free gift

So what? If only the developers in US got a free phone that would not bother
me.
I got a mail from Google saying they would give me a free phone in 2-4
weeks!
Great Then I dont have to purchase the phone Ive orginally planned, and
I can test my new app  on yet another device.
Well... After 7 weeks, no words and no phone, I had to buy the planned phone
anyway.

If they know its been problems with delivery of all phones outside US, so
send the developers a mail. They got all the e-mail-adresses.
Should be an easy task.

>Ove, i understand your pain, it took a while for paid apps to get
>here, and as an ex-South African, they don't even have paid app
>downloads over there, so its bad.

Well, its the same same for most European countries. No paid apps available
for download.
It wouldn't be a problem if Google said that it would support Merchang
Accounts and paid apps in 2011.
Then we will at least know, and can plan according to that. The situation
now is just silence for over 2 years.
That is not taking your developers or customers seriously.



2010/4/20 dgoemans 

> *stands up*
>
> Hi, my name's David, i'm in the Netherlands, and i haven't had a Nexus
> One for 7 weeks now.
>
> Seriously tho, i think we need to be calm and strong. They'll arrive
> ( hopefully before i move! ) and we just need patience. It is, after
> all a free gift, which after 2 years as a day job iPhone dev, i can
> say is more than i've been given before.
>
> Ove, i understand your pain, it took a while for paid apps to get
> here, and as an ex-South African, they don't even have paid app
> downloads over there, so its bad. That said, it's worth keeping in
> mind that there are serious region restrictions on these things
> ( unfortunately - i really hate that ). For example, look at
> Microsoft's Xbox Live Indie Games, which is only accessible in a small
> handful of countries to download for, and only a few more than that
> can dev for it. This is due to (stupid) global financial restrictions.
> Remember that it took Apple many years to get iTunes working across
> the globe.
>
> On Apr 19, 10:24 pm, JDS  wrote:
> > I would be very surprised if they do not arrive. If the intention
> > never was to send any to europe, why would Google confirm that they
> > will arrive over and over again? What is obvious is that they had, or
> > still have, some major issues but I don't think we will never know
> > what kind.
> >
> > In the last response I got, they do confirm they had some issues and
> > that I should (they don't use the word "will receive" anymore ;-) )
> > receive my phone in 2 weeks, which will be on April 28 and I will wait
> > patiently until then before I will contact them again.
> >
> > On 19 Apr, 21:05, gambiting  wrote:
> >
> > > Well,with each day I'm getting convinced more and more that the phones
> > > will not arrive in europe,and it was only for the US.
> > > But on the other side, we didn't pay anything for these phones, so it
> > > doesn't hurt to wait - maybe one day there we will get them?
> > > I just hope that people from europe will share info here if they
> > > receive their phones.
> >
> > > On 19 Kwi, 18:33, TomTasche  wrote:
> >
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