[android-developers] Augmented Ajax Notifications

2009-06-05 Thread jtaylor

Can augmented ajax use Notifications? Is this Android 2.0?

- Juan

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[android-developers] Augmented Ajax Notifications

2009-06-05 Thread jtaylor

Can augmented ajax work with Notifications? Is this Android 2.0?


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[android-developers] Re: When to use android:attr and android:style ?

2009-05-19 Thread jtaylor

Style applies to a component like a TextView. Themes are for whole
Activities or Applications.


+ Juan

On May 19, 5:01 pm, twan twa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Found it out myself, theme seems to apply to all, style only applies
 to one view. Handy!

 Cheers,
 Twan

 On May 19, 9:42 pm, twan twa...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello,

  I got a little question on when to use style and android:theme in
  a layout xml file.

  For example:
  style=?android:attr/textAppearanceSmall

  does the same thing as:
  android:theme=@android:style/TextAppearance.Small

  Which one should i use?

  Please note: i will reply a little late, cause i'm not able to see my
  own messages in this group, only through google.com search result.

  Kind regards,
  Twan
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[android-developers] Re: Corrections in Docs

2009-05-17 Thread jtaylor

Sounds Good.

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On May 11, 3:17 pm, Marco Nelissen marc...@android.com wrote:
 On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 11:24 AM, jtaylor jatto@gmail.com wrote:

  Shouldn't there be a place outside of the Issues page, where one can
  report spelling errors that are in the docs and articles? File a bug
  for a little spelling error??

 You could also submit a patch that fixes the error.
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[android-developers] Re: conversion to dalvik format failed with error 1

2009-05-12 Thread jtaylor

I uninstalled/re-installed it and I Still have the same errors upon
creation of a project.

[2009-05-12 13:23:50 - Lucayan] no classfiles specified
[2009-05-12 13:23:50 - Lucayan] Conversion to Dalvik format failed
with error 1

- juan


On May 11, 9:09 am, Thomas Lee aztho...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Derek,

 after uninstall/re-install ADT, the annoying problem has disappeared.

 On May 8, 11:36 pm, Derek dlawl...@gmail.com wrote:

  I got this error frequently right after updating ADT.  Turned out that
  I had updated my ADT instead of uninstall/install.  I had to manually
  cleanse my eclipse install to get rid of references to 0.8

  On May 8, 3:02 am, kenjkelly kenke...@kenkelly.com wrote:

   My guess is that the 1.5 release relies on something that gets built
   after it is needed. Thus the Clean fails but then it works on the next
   build.

   Can someone who worked on the Eclipse Plugin for 1.5 check that out?
   Incase it is important, I am using the 1.5 with Google libs
   selection.

   Ken Kelly

   On May 8, 3:34 am, Kamal Hasan kamal.hasa...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi

My project was running perfectly and when I cleaned the project then
It started to give the following error.

[2009-05-08 12:47:24 - MobilChek] no classfiles specified
[2009-05-08 12:47:24 - MobilChek] Conversion to Dalvik format failed
with error 1

Pls help me in resolving this issue.

Kamal

On May 4, 2:53 am, Justin (Google Employee) j...@google.com wrote:

 Did you update your plugin? If so, did you create either a 1.1 AVD or
 a 1.5 w/Google Maps AVD?

 Cheers,
 Justin
 Android Team @ Google

 On May 2, 10:59 am, Berlin Brown berlin.br...@gmail.com wrote:

  On May 2,1:05 pm, CnmJbm cnm...@gmail.com wrote:

   ok, it seems i fixed it on my environment.

   just delete the R.java (by refreshing the project) and rebuild the
   project.

   On May 2, 9:57 am, CnmJbm cnm...@gmail.com wrote:

i got the sameerror, TOO!!!

May Day

On Apr 28, 3:57 pm, chris.cap...@gmail.com 
chris.cap...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi,

 I just updated to SDK 1.5 and all of my projects are failing 
 to build
 with the followingerror:

 [2009-04-28 15:53:23 - Utilities] no classfiles specified
 [2009-04-28 15:53:23 - 
 Utilities]ConversiontoDalvikformatfailed
 witherror1

 (Utilities is the name of this specific project.)

 Any idea why? I'm on Ubuntu 9.04 x64. Before the update to 1.5
 everything worked fine. Thanks.

 Chris

  I got rid of thaterrorand get thiserror, any ideas.  I have a
  similar configuration:

  [2009-05-02 14:22:39 - HelloWorld]Failedto find an AVD compatible
  with target 'Android 1.1'. Launch aborted.- Hide quoted text -

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[android-developers] Corrections in Docs

2009-05-11 Thread jtaylor


Shouldn't there be a place outside of the Issues page, where one can
report spelling errors that are in the docs and articles? File a bug
for a little spelling error??

Android 1.5 offers a very way to solve this issue with a the new
mutate() method.
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/05/drawable-mutations.html


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[android-developers] Re: Corrections in Docs

2009-05-11 Thread jtaylor

Hello Marco,

How do I do that?


- juan

On May 11, 3:17 pm, Marco Nelissen marc...@android.com wrote:
 On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 11:24 AM, jtaylor jatto@gmail.com wrote:

  Shouldn't there be a place outside of the Issues page, where one can
  report spelling errors that are in the docs and articles? File a bug
  for a little spelling error??

 You could also submit a patch that fixes the error.
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[android-developers] Re: P2P Android

2009-01-22 Thread jtaylor

In August this was on the Android Developers Blog. I haven't heard any
more on it though.

One of our top priorities after the first devices ship is to develop
a device-to-device (and possibly device-to-server) RPC mechanism that
is fast, reliable, and protective of developers and users alike.
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/search?q=rpc

- Juan T.

On Jan 17, 7:55 am, Tez earlencefe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I want to establish a p2p connection between 2 android devices. Is
 this possible. If yes, how can i do it?

 Cheers,
 Earlence
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[android-developers] Re: save image file in sqlite db

2009-01-21 Thread jtaylor

Use the ContentResolver().openOutputStream(), etc. in the example
here.
http://code.google.com/android/devel/data/contentproviders.html

SQLite supports binary data. However, I think you may have trouble
with direct access to binary data with the Android Cursors.


- Juan T.

On Jan 20, 12:19 am, And-Rider rahulregunat...@gmail.com wrote:
 I want to save images from a particular URL into the sqlite db and
 then display it from the database..Can anyone tell me as how i could
 do that
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[android-developers] Re: Debugging geolocations services

2009-01-20 Thread jtaylor



On Jan 20, 6:20 pm, Faber Fedor faberfe...@gmail.com wrote:
 I wrote some reverse geocoding, geolocation and proximity alert routines for
 my little Android app.    I took my Android out with me when running errands
 to test my routines; they're kinda hard to test from my couch.  Half of them
 didn't work.

 What's the best way to debug something like this?  Sprinkle a bunch of
 printf statements (or whatever you call them in Java) throughout the app?
 Log everything to the sdcard?  Write a toggleable view (is that even
 possible?) that acts as a console?

 Suggestions?


Log everything with this. Then it shows up in Logcat in Eclipse (or
DDMS).

android.util.Log
http://code.google.com/android/reference/android/util/Log.html


To show times when methods were called use Traceview. It might be
helpful for the location methods.

Traceview: A Graphical Log Viewer
http://code.google.com/android/reference/traceview.html


- Juan T.


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[android-developers] Re: How to share classes between different Android projects?

2009-01-20 Thread jtaylor

Try Java Build Path  Libraries  Add External Class Folder.


- Juan T.

On Jan 20, 12:29 pm, luke luke.hu...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have two projects that share classes in a third project.  Eclipse
 happily allows me to reference these external classes when I am
 developing the two dependant projects (as long as the Java Build Path
 is set up right), but when I try launching the dependant projects, the
 external classfiles are not copied into the .apk for some reason, so
 at runtime I get unsatisfied link errors.  I don't want to have to
 maintain multiple copies of the same source file, or even have a copy
 of these external classfiles in the dependant projects.  I also want
 to avoid adding an extra build step where I build the external
 classfiles, package them up in a .jar file and include them in the
 dependant projects.

 How can I get the Android SDK to simply put a copy of any referenced
 (non-SDK, non-project) external classes in the .apk at build time?
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[android-developers] Re: cant studying android

2009-01-20 Thread jtaylor

I would check if those links are legal. Authors don't usually give
their books away for free like that.


- Juan T.

On Jan 20, 9:10 am, Shuvo rejwan.sh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well I am also new in Android , you can download some good Android
 books for free , I am providing the links

 1. Professional Andoid Application Development 
 :http://www.netbks.com/programming/general-programming-programming/pro...

 2. Android , A Programmars Guide 
 :http://www.netbks.com/programming/general-programming-programming/and...

 3. Android Essentials 
 :http://www.netbks.com/programming/general-programming-programming/and...

 thank you for being an Androidian ... best of luck

 Shuvo
 Bangladesh University of Engineering and Technology ( BUET )
 rejwan.shuvo.googlepages.com

 On Jan 20, 6:36 pm, msmsmukesh msmsmuk...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi all,I cant understand anything from android. First what we do for
  studying android.

  Thanks,
  Mukesh
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[android-developers] Re: Getting cellular network data

2009-01-20 Thread jtaylor



android.net.NetworkInfo
http://code.google.com/android/reference/android/net/NetworkInfo.html


- Juan T.

On Jan 14, 11:07 pm, UAE butti.bushla...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

   I would like to know if its possible to get low-level information
 related to the cellular network, as I would like to use them in an app
 I am willing to design. I have searched the APIs and this and other
 discussion boards, but I cant seem to find any info regarding that.
 Would someone please enligh me on this? It seems that this is
 confidential information but for an open source phone, this shouldn't
 be.

 Thank you for your time
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[android-developers] Re: Regarding Activity

2009-01-19 Thread jtaylor

I think you should explain what you're saying better. Are you asking
how to come back to the video after someone clicks the notification
message? Well, the notification can have a PendingIntent attached to
it that triggers that activity again. ..However, I think you have to
go through and explain your question a bit better.

android.app.ActivityGroup
http://code.google.com/android/reference/android/app/ActivityGroup.html


- Juan T.

On Jan 19, 5:10 am, mongd mongdl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, I'm working on a program which basically plays a video file and
 has some more functionality.
 What I expect from this program is:
 when I start playing a video, the program starts a new service and
 registers a notification.
 I click the home button and still the video is running so I can hear
 the sound, but the program doesn't have focus any more( no more video
 animation). Now I drag down the notification list and click the
 notification message, then the currently running program will pop up
 and now I can see the video again.

 What I want to ask is how to come back to the program when I click the
 notification message? I've been looking into the website and this
 group, but I couldn't find any clue. Please help!

 Oh, and one more question:
 is it possible to put more than 2 activities on the same screen? if it
 is, is there any reference for that?

 Million thanks in advance! =D
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[android-developers] Re: Port my iPhone game

2009-01-07 Thread jtaylor

If that was in the Top 5, I would do the whole thing in Java.

- Juan T.



On Jan 6, 6:19 pm, Steve rockthesm...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi there,

 I'm part of a team of developers that have recently released an iPhone/
 iPodTouch game via Apple's AppStore (reasonably known as in  500,000
 downloads in  month, ~50,000 downloads on Christmas day alone, spent
 most of Christmas in Apple's top 5). The game is written in c++ and is
 cross platform for iPhone/iPod and Windows PC (there is a small
 objective-c stub on the iPhone side, but it does little more than call
 into our mainly generic c++ engine). Our engine has an OpenGL:ES
 compatible renderer, and OpenAL compatible audio engine, so I hoped it
 might be relatively straight forward to port this over to Android and
 get the game running on there. Obviously I've since read through the
 documentation and newsgroups and there seems to be a lot of people
 saying they want c++ and various discussions here about hacking
 support in, or just using Java and forgetting c++ and so on. There
 seems to be a few directions on can attempt to go in, but essentially
 I'm looking for advice as to what the best/recommend route would be
 for me?

 If my only option is to write the entire game again in Java then it's
 looking unlikely from our point of view that we'll be able to port to
 Android - it would just be bonkers for us to have go to through our
 reasonable sized code base and just convert each function to Java. Is
 there any form of half-way-house that would let us keep all our 100%
 generic game code in c++ and just write the code that does the API
 calls in Java? Currently our code base is split up very much in to a
 'game' section and an 'engine' section. The game is 100% generic c++
 code that just calls functions from a generic API interface (which is
 then implemented as needed on various API's/platforms and so on). The
 game code doesn't call any functions from any of the std/libc
 libraries, it just makes calls to our engine.

 I can sense the answer is simply going to be 'No! If you want to write
 a game for Android then go do it in Java' but as mentioned this really
 doesn't make any sense from our point of view, as it'd mean ending up
 having to write the same game twice, just in different languages...

 Steve
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[android-developers] Re: html parsing and libraries

2008-12-24 Thread jtaylor

Adding an External Library (.jar) using Eclipse
You can use a third party JAR in your application by adding it to your
Eclipse project as follows:

In the Package Explorer panel, right-click on your project and select
Properties.
Select Java Build Path, then the tab Libraries.
Press the Add External JARs... button and select the JAR file.
Alternatively, if you want to include third party JARs with your
package, create a new directory for them within your project and
select Add Library... instead.
It is not necessary to put external JARs in the assets folder.

http://code.google.com/android/kb/commontasks.html

- Juan T.


On Dec 20, 2:37 pm, Jamie jamie.hu...@gmail.com wrote:
  If you are building with Eclipse, AFAIK, follow the standard Eclipse
  procedures for incorporating a JAR.

 I tried importing the JAR from the htmlparser open source project.
 Eclipse gives an error and doesnt import the library.

  If the project is open source, though, consider downloading the source
  and putting it in your build tree. That way, your code and the
  third-party code are all compiled with the same version of Java.

 What do you mean by putting it in your build tree?  How would I go
 about doing this?
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[android-developers] Re: Testing the OrientationListener

2008-12-23 Thread jtaylor

This should have showed up in your Google searching.

http://code.google.com/p/openintents/wiki/SensorSimulator


- Juan T.

On Dec 17, 12:44 am, Hopper mehijun...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey all,

 I'd like to know what options (if any) I have to test 
 theOrientationListener-- and other sensors -- from within the Android
 Emulator. Five minutes of Google searching yielded nothing.

 Most preferably, I'd like to know if there's GUI for this, or if it's
 something similar to the shell commands for location.

 Thanks,
 Hopper
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[android-developers] Re: Activity goes to background but secondary thread needs to end its work

2008-12-22 Thread jtaylor


That's all you can do. A service process is 3rd on the importance
hierarchy in the system deciding which processes should not be
killed. Just behind a 'visible process' such as a paused activity.

3. A service process is one holding a Service that has been started
with the startService() method.
http://code.google.com/android/intro/lifecycle.html


The solution to this problem is to start a Service from the
BroadcastReceiver, so the system knows that there is still active work
being done in the process.
http://code.google.com/android/intro/lifecycle.html

- Juan T.

On Dec 17, 8:21 pm, polo777 polodr...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Ok thanks for your answer. I am going to investigate in this way.
 However, according to my understanding, even though the service will
 have a longer life time than the thread, it still can be killed. Then,
 for a real safe mechanism I guess I have to take care of the problem
 differently meaning perhaps changing  the nature of my code.

 On Dec 17, 4:06 pm, Al alcapw...@googlemail.com wrote:

  You could create a service for the background task. Create your main
 Activity, call startService(), inside the service, create a
  thread, finish your work, then call stopSelf() to stop your service.
  Have a look 
  athttp://code.google.com/android/reference/android/app/Service.html.
  Services usually last longer and killed later then usual activities
  when memory is low.

  On Dec 17, 11:47 pm, polo777 polodr...@yahoo.com wrote:

   Hi Everyone,

   I am currently working on an app that uses two threads: The first main
   UI one and a secondary one that I use to retrieve some data from the
   network, parse them and finally add them into a database.

   My question is regarding to the lifecycle of my thread. The problem is
   simple, I need the thread to end the work it is doing.

   The user can close theactivityor send it to the background at
   anytime which is not a problem for the main thread that take cares of
   the UI but the  secondary thread is still running and can be killed at
   anytime stopping its work in a way that we don't control anything
   (could be working on the database, parsing...).

   What is the best solution to handle this problem?

   Thanks a lot in advance.
   Polo
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[android-developers] Re: Join via ContentProvider

2008-11-03 Thread jtaylor

To change the indicator when expanded, you can do something with the
state_expanded state. In the drawable which indicates the Drawable
parameter of setGroupIndicator(drawable), you set the state_expanded
state in the context of a stateful Drawable. Don't see any examples of
how do do this.

http://code.google.com/android/reference/android/R.styleable.html#ExpandableListGroupIndicatorState_state_expanded


- Juan T.



On Nov 3, 12:25 am, for android [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Also i was interested in know when I expand a group ,is there any way i
 change image other than implementing the
 public void setOnGroupExpandListener(
 ExpandableListView.OnGroupExpandListenerhttp://code.google.com/android/reference/android/widget/ExpandableLis...onGroupExpandListener)
 and then chagning the image through the api reference
 u  provided.

 Also,can I have different images as indicators to each item of the group in
 an expandable list.Thats something like this

 Image1  Text1
 Image2  Text2
 Image3  Text3

 Thanks for your time

 On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 10:39 AM, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  public void setGroupIndicator(Drawable groupIndicator)

 http://code.google.com/android/reference/android/widget/ExpandableLis...)http://code.google.com/android/reference/android/widget/ExpandableLis...

  - Juan T.

  On Oct 29, 4:00 am, for android [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   How can i create a customised Expandable list where the group identifer
   image is different than the already given ones in the apis..

   On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 6:46 PM, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm just supposing that each class is a table. I don't know how
android.provider is set up, though I guess one can now see from the
source code.

- Juan

On Oct 27, 9:15 am, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That looks like two tables.

 Contacts.People
 Contacts.People.Phones

 - Juan

 On Oct 26, 12:52 pm, Anm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  jtaylor,
  Did you read the example?  It does not do a joint.  Instead it uses
  a
  Uri subpath notation for its child query, within the same table
  rather
  than joining multiple tables.  The references to group in the
  code
  are not contact group membership, but rather ExpandableList parent
  node/groups.

  On Oct 25, 11:51 am, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   ExpandableList2.java has the getChildrenCursor() (in the
   MyExpandableListAdapter inner class) which has the code for
  obviously
   a contentprovider Join.

   http://code.google.com/android/samples/ApiDemos/src/com/example/andro.
  ..

   - Juan

   On Oct 25, 2:47 pm, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

ExpandableList2.
   http://code.google.com/android/samples/ApiDemos/src/com/example/andro.
  ..

- Juan

On Oct 24, 3:05 am, Anm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm struggling to understand how to do a join, if its
  possible,
with
 the decomposed SQL arguments of the ContentProvider APIs.  Is
there an
 example out there?

 Or if not, could some code up a quick example, say joining
  People
with
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[android-developers] Re: Join via ContentProvider

2008-11-02 Thread jtaylor



public void setGroupIndicator(Drawable groupIndicator)
http://code.google.com/android/reference/android/widget/ExpandableListView.html#setGroupIndicator(android.graphics.drawable.Drawable)


- Juan T.


On Oct 29, 4:00 am, for android [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How can i create a customised Expandable list where the group identifer
 image is different than the already given ones in the apis..

 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 6:46 PM, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I'm just supposing that each class is a table. I don't know how
  android.provider is set up, though I guess one can now see from the
  source code.

  - Juan

  On Oct 27, 9:15 am, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   That looks like two tables.

   Contacts.People
   Contacts.People.Phones

   - Juan

   On Oct 26, 12:52 pm, Anm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

jtaylor,
Did you read the example?  It does not do a joint.  Instead it uses a
Uri subpath notation for its child query, within the same table rather
than joining multiple tables.  The references to group in the code
are not contact group membership, but rather ExpandableList parent
node/groups.

On Oct 25, 11:51 am, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ExpandableList2.java has the getChildrenCursor() (in the
 MyExpandableListAdapter inner class) which has the code for obviously
 a contentprovider Join.

 http://code.google.com/android/samples/ApiDemos/src/com/example/andro...

 - Juan

 On Oct 25, 2:47 pm, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  ExpandableList2.
 http://code.google.com/android/samples/ApiDemos/src/com/example/andro...

  - Juan

  On Oct 24, 3:05 am, Anm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I'm struggling to understand how to do a join, if its possible,
  with
   the decomposed SQL arguments of the ContentProvider APIs.  Is
  there an
   example out there?

   Or if not, could some code up a quick example, say joining People
  with
   GroupMembership?
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[android-developers] Re: Join via ContentProvider

2008-11-02 Thread jtaylor

public void setGroupIndicator(Drawable groupIndicator)
http://code.google.com/android/reference/android/widget/ExpandableListView.html#setGroupIndicator(android.graphics.drawable.Drawable)


- Juan T.


On Oct 29, 4:00 am, for android [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How can i create a customised Expandable list where the group identifer
 image is different than the already given ones in the apis..

 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 6:46 PM, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I'm just supposing that each class is a table. I don't know how
  android.provider is set up, though I guess one can now see from the
  source code.

  - Juan

  On Oct 27, 9:15 am, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   That looks like two tables.

   Contacts.People
   Contacts.People.Phones

   - Juan

   On Oct 26, 12:52 pm, Anm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

jtaylor,
Did you read the example?  It does not do a joint.  Instead it uses a
Uri subpath notation for its child query, within the same table rather
than joining multiple tables.  The references to group in the code
are not contact group membership, but rather ExpandableList parent
node/groups.

On Oct 25, 11:51 am, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ExpandableList2.java has the getChildrenCursor() (in the
 MyExpandableListAdapter inner class) which has the code for obviously
 a contentprovider Join.

 http://code.google.com/android/samples/ApiDemos/src/com/example/andro...

 - Juan

 On Oct 25, 2:47 pm, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  ExpandableList2.
 http://code.google.com/android/samples/ApiDemos/src/com/example/andro...

  - Juan

  On Oct 24, 3:05 am, Anm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I'm struggling to understand how to do a join, if its possible,
  with
   the decomposed SQL arguments of the ContentProvider APIs.  Is
  there an
   example out there?

   Or if not, could some code up a quick example, say joining People
  with
   GroupMembership?
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[android-developers] Re: Join via ContentProvider

2008-10-29 Thread jtaylor

I looked at the Hierarchy Viewer and it just shows two id/tex1 views
below the ExpandableListView. So it must be interior to Android.


- Juan

On Oct 29, 5:00 am, for android [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How can i create a customised Expandable list where the group identifer
 image is different than the already given ones in the apis..

 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 6:46 PM, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I'm just supposing that each class is a table. I don't know how
  android.provider is set up, though I guess one can now see from the
  source code.

  - Juan

  On Oct 27, 9:15 am, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   That looks like two tables.

   Contacts.People
   Contacts.People.Phones

   - Juan

   On Oct 26, 12:52 pm, Anm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

jtaylor,
Did you read the example?  It does not do a joint.  Instead it uses a
Uri subpath notation for its child query, within the same table rather
than joining multiple tables.  The references to group in the code
are not contact group membership, but rather ExpandableList parent
node/groups.

On Oct 25, 11:51 am, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ExpandableList2.java has the getChildrenCursor() (in the
 MyExpandableListAdapter inner class) which has the code for obviously
 a contentprovider Join.

 http://code.google.com/android/samples/ApiDemos/src/com/example/andro...

 - Juan

 On Oct 25, 2:47 pm, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  ExpandableList2.
 http://code.google.com/android/samples/ApiDemos/src/com/example/andro...

  - Juan

  On Oct 24, 3:05 am, Anm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I'm struggling to understand how to do a join, if its possible,
  with
   the decomposed SQL arguments of the ContentProvider APIs.  Is
  there an
   example out there?

   Or if not, could some code up a quick example, say joining People
  with
   GroupMembership?
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[android-developers] Re: Join via ContentProvider

2008-10-29 Thread jtaylor

I should have said I looked at the Hierarchy Viewer for
ExpandableList2 demo.
http://code.google.com/android/samples/ApiDemos/src/com/example/android/apis/view/ExpandableList2.html


- Juan


On Oct 29, 11:18 am, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I looked at the Hierarchy Viewer and it just shows two id/tex1 views
 below the ExpandableListView. So it must be interior to Android.

 - Juan

 On Oct 29, 5:00 am, for android [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  How can i create a customised Expandable list where the group identifer
  image is different than the already given ones in the apis..

  On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 6:46 PM, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I'm just supposing that each class is a table. I don't know how
   android.provider is set up, though I guess one can now see from the
   source code.

   - Juan

   On Oct 27, 9:15 am, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That looks like two tables.

Contacts.People
Contacts.People.Phones

- Juan

On Oct 26, 12:52 pm, Anm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 jtaylor,
 Did you read the example?  It does not do a joint.  Instead it uses a
 Uri subpath notation for its child query, within the same table rather
 than joining multiple tables.  The references to group in the code
 are not contact group membership, but rather ExpandableList parent
 node/groups.

 On Oct 25, 11:51 am, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  ExpandableList2.java has the getChildrenCursor() (in the
  MyExpandableListAdapter inner class) which has the code for 
  obviously
  a contentprovider Join.

  http://code.google.com/android/samples/ApiDemos/src/com/example/andro...

  - Juan

  On Oct 25, 2:47 pm, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   ExpandableList2.
  http://code.google.com/android/samples/ApiDemos/src/com/example/andro...

   - Juan

   On Oct 24, 3:05 am, Anm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm struggling to understand how to do a join, if its possible,
   with
the decomposed SQL arguments of the ContentProvider APIs.  Is
   there an
example out there?

Or if not, could some code up a quick example, say joining 
People
   with
GroupMembership?
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[android-developers] Re: Join via ContentProvider

2008-10-27 Thread jtaylor

That looks like two tables.

Contacts.People
Contacts.People.Phones


- Juan

On Oct 26, 12:52 pm, Anm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 jtaylor,
 Did you read the example?  It does not do a joint.  Instead it uses a
 Uri subpath notation for its child query, within the same table rather
 than joining multiple tables.  The references to group in the code
 are not contact group membership, but rather ExpandableList parent
 node/groups.

 On Oct 25, 11:51 am, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  ExpandableList2.java has the getChildrenCursor() (in the
  MyExpandableListAdapter inner class) which has the code for obviously
  a contentprovider Join.

 http://code.google.com/android/samples/ApiDemos/src/com/example/andro...

  - Juan

  On Oct 25, 2:47 pm, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   ExpandableList2.http://code.google.com/android/samples/ApiDemos/src/com/example/andro...

   - Juan

   On Oct 24, 3:05 am, Anm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm struggling to understand how to do a join, if its possible, with
the decomposed SQL arguments of the ContentProvider APIs.  Is there an
example out there?

Or if not, could some code up a quick example, say joining People with
GroupMembership?
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[android-developers] Re: Join via ContentProvider

2008-10-27 Thread jtaylor

I'm just supposing that each class is a table. I don't know how
android.provider is set up, though I guess one can now see from the
source code.


- Juan

On Oct 27, 9:15 am, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That looks like two tables.

 Contacts.People
 Contacts.People.Phones

 - Juan

 On Oct 26, 12:52 pm, Anm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  jtaylor,
  Did you read the example?  It does not do a joint.  Instead it uses a
  Uri subpath notation for its child query, within the same table rather
  than joining multiple tables.  The references to group in the code
  are not contact group membership, but rather ExpandableList parent
  node/groups.

  On Oct 25, 11:51 am, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   ExpandableList2.java has the getChildrenCursor() (in the
   MyExpandableListAdapter inner class) which has the code for obviously
   a contentprovider Join.

  http://code.google.com/android/samples/ApiDemos/src/com/example/andro...

   - Juan

   On Oct 25, 2:47 pm, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

ExpandableList2.http://code.google.com/android/samples/ApiDemos/src/com/example/andro...

- Juan

On Oct 24, 3:05 am, Anm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm struggling to understand how to do a join, if its possible, with
 the decomposed SQL arguments of the ContentProvider APIs.  Is there an
 example out there?

 Or if not, could some code up a quick example, say joining People with
 GroupMembership?
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[android-developers] Re: AndroidHttpClient gone so now what

2008-10-27 Thread jtaylor

For a simple HTTP request just use HttpURLConnection. It's better
documented. ..If you need something that it doesn't have, which you
probably will know beforehand, then go to Apache.

http://code.google.com/android/reference/java/net/HttpURLConnection.html


- Juan

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 HTTP request in Android. Examples and docs are outdated... nothing
 works. AGGH! Please help
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[android-developers] Re: Join via ContentProvider

2008-10-25 Thread jtaylor

ExpandableList2.
http://code.google.com/android/samples/ApiDemos/src/com/example/android/apis/view/ExpandableList2.html



- Juan



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 I'm struggling to understand how to do a join, if its possible, with
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[android-developers] Re: Join via ContentProvider

2008-10-25 Thread jtaylor

ExpandableList2.java has the getChildrenCursor() (in the
MyExpandableListAdapter inner class) which has the code for obviously
a contentprovider Join.

http://code.google.com/android/samples/ApiDemos/src/com/example/android/apis/view/ExpandableList2.html


- Juan

On Oct 25, 2:47 pm, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ExpandableList2.http://code.google.com/android/samples/ApiDemos/src/com/example/andro...

 - Juan

 On Oct 24, 3:05 am, Anm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I'm struggling to understand how to do a join, if its possible, with
  the decomposed SQL arguments of the ContentProvider APIs.  Is there an
  example out there?

  Or if not, could some code up a quick example, say joining People with
  GroupMembership?
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[android-developers] Re: Update in Content Provider

2008-10-24 Thread jtaylor

Yes, I don't intend to support it. Thanks!


- Juan

On Oct 24, 3:24 pm, Justin (Google Employee) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 You mean you're creating a new ContentProvider, but don't intend to
 support the update method? Document it extensively and throw a
 RuntimeException from inside the method.

 Cheers,
 Justin
 Android Team @ Google

 On Oct 20, 10:36 am, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  If I don't need the Update method in a Content Provider, how do I
  alert others using it? I can just leave the method empty, but what
  other precautions should I take?

  - Juan T.
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[android-developers] getChildrenCursor() JOINs

2008-10-22 Thread jtaylor


ExpandableList2.java uses a content provider. I'm using SQLite on it's
own. What type of Join should I implement in the getChildrenCursor()
method?


- Juan T.
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[android-developers] Update in Content Provider

2008-10-20 Thread jtaylor


If I don't need the Update method in a Content Provider, how do I
alert others using it? I can just leave the method empty, but what
other precautions should I take?


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[android-developers] Re: SQLite problems: how to use LIKE expression

2008-10-18 Thread jtaylor

Snippet from WikiNotesProvider.java:

case KEYWORD_SEARCH:
// this match searches for a text match in the body of notes
qb.setTables(keywords);
qb.setProjectionMap(KEYWORDS_LIST_PROJECTION_MAP);
qb.appendWhere(body like ? or title like ?);
whereArgs = new String[2];
whereArgs[0] = whereArgs[1] = % + uri.getLastPathSegment() +
%;
break;



- Juan T.

On Oct 17, 10:36 am, Premier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The problem is '%?%' .
 It doesn't recognize that string.

 On 17 Ott, 12:48, Mark Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Premier wrote:
   Hello world,
  likein object, i want to useLIKEexpression in Android

   [CODE]
   private SQLiteDatabase db;
   ...
   Cursor resultCursor= null;
   resultCursor= db.query(false, DB_TABLE, null, idlike%+id+%,
   null, null, null, null, null);
   ...
   [/CODE]

  I have not triedLIKEfrom within Android. SQLite definitely supports
  it, as I have used it from outside Android.

  You may need to switch to rawQuery().

  --
  Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy)http://commonsware.com
  _The Busy Coder's Guide to Android Development_ Version 1.3 Published!
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[android-developers] Re: AliasActivity: Two Questions

2008-10-16 Thread jtaylor

Well, what exactly is the difference between the two to understand
them better?


- Juan T.

On Oct 15, 10:29 pm, Romain Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Photostream uses an activity-alias, not an AliasActivity (they are different 
 :)



 On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 7:24 PM, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I noticed the Photostream app has alias activities.

  (This comment is in androidmanifest.xml)
  !-- Alias activity used to set the wallpaper on Home. The alias is
  used
              simply to have a different label. --

 http://code.google.com/p/apps-for-android/source/browse/trunk/#trunk/...

  - Juan

  On Oct 12, 11:31 am, Anm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The AliasActivity looks interesting, as a way to redirect a user to
  another activity/intent under a different name.  I can see this being
  used to put a launcher icon to a document/url. But I don't see any
  examples of it, or documentation of the XML to configure it.  (From
  the docs: To use this activity, you should include in the manifest
  for the associated component an entry named android.app.alias. It is
  a reference to an XML resource describing an intent that launches the
  real application. )

  Does anyone have any pointers?

  Secondly, I think I want to make a something that acts similar to the
  AliasActivity as my app's entry point, but redirects to the most
  recently used activity.  Calling startActivity() followed by finish()
  still invokes the activity after returning from the child activity
  (its still on the activity stack, despite the finish() call), leading
  to a loop that re-enters the child.  What should I be doing instead?
  (I.e., What does AliasActivity do?)

  Anxiously awaiting the sources so I can answer these types of
  questions on my own.

  Anm

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[android-developers] Re: AliasActivity: Two Questions

2008-10-16 Thread jtaylor

The activity-alias tag appears to enable different manifest
attributes for the same activity. AliasActivity is something I'd have
to see in an example to really understand it. At least it sounds
uncommon.


- Juan T.

On Oct 16, 4:44 pm, hackbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The activity-alias tag can only be used to link to another activity
 implement in the same manifest as the tag appears, and when this alias
 is launched by the system it just directly launches the target
 activity so there is no actual implementation behind it.

 The AliasActivity class is just a standard Activity implementation
 that is built into the system, which you can use as the implementation
 for one of your activities.  When launched, the system actually
 launches the AliasActivity in your process, which reads from your
 manifest the intent description to launch, starts that other activity,
 and then finishes itself.

 So if you can use activity-alias, you should to do so, since it is
 much more efficient.

 The main purpose of AliasActivity is to be able to generate a .apk
 containing no code that just provides a top-level application icon for
 some other activity in the system, typically launching the browser to
 display a particular web page.

 On Oct 16, 10:26 am, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Well, what exactly is the difference between the two to understand
  them better?

  - Juan T.

  On Oct 15, 10:29 pm, Romain Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Photostream uses an activity-alias, not an AliasActivity (they are 
   different :)

   On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 7:24 PM, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I noticed the Photostream app has alias activities.

(This comment is in androidmanifest.xml)
!-- Alias activity used to set the wallpaper on Home. The alias is
used
            simply to have a different label. --

   http://code.google.com/p/apps-for-android/source/browse/trunk/#trunk/...

- Juan

On Oct 12, 11:31 am, Anm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The AliasActivity looks interesting, as a way to redirect a user to
another activity/intent under a different name.  I can see this being
used to put a launcher icon to a document/url. But I don't see any
examples of it, or documentation of the XML to configure it.  (From
the docs: To use this activity, you should include in the manifest
for the associated component an entry named android.app.alias. It is
a reference to an XML resource describing an intent that launches the
real application. )

Does anyone have any pointers?

Secondly, I think I want to make a something that acts similar to the
AliasActivity as my app's entry point, but redirects to the most
recently used activity.  Calling startActivity() followed by finish()
still invokes the activity after returning from the child activity
(its still on the activity stack, despite the finish() call), leading
to a loop that re-enters the child.  What should I be doing instead?
(I.e., What does AliasActivity do?)

Anxiously awaiting the sources so I can answer these types of
questions on my own.

Anm

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[android-developers] Re: Device unique ID, other than getDeviceId()?

2008-10-15 Thread jtaylor

Hello Mark,

I'd venture to say that impossible what you're asking. With #1 you
would have a problem with privacy/security. With #2, having a storage
spot would mean you wouldn't need Content Providers. It's intuitive
for there to be a permission placed on this info. So just do the
Overkill, putting a permission in there shouldn't be a problem.


- Juan T.

On Oct 15, 5:58 pm, Mark Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I need a unique ID for each phone, just enough to distinguish it from
 any other Android phone. In theory, TelephonyManager#getDeviceId() would
 be fine, except that it requires READ_PHONE_DATA as a permission, and
 that seems overkill.

 The catch is that I need this ID to be cross-application; two
 applications on the same device need to get the same ID.

 So, two questions:

 1. Is there some other API in Android-land that returns a unique value
 for each phone, that I just haven't found yet? One that does not require
 any special permission to access? I even considered a MAC address, but
 Android doesn't offer NetworkInterface#getHardwareAddress(), unfortunately.

 2. If the answer to #1 is no, silly, is there a spot (that I just
 haven't found yet) where I could tuck a world-readable UUID that could
 serve this purpose? It doesn't seem like there's any good
 cross-application storage spot outside of the SD card, and I can't count
 on all devices having one.

 Thanks in advance!

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[android-developers] Re: AliasActivity: Two Questions

2008-10-15 Thread jtaylor

I noticed the Photostream app has alias activities.

(This comment is in androidmanifest.xml)
!-- Alias activity used to set the wallpaper on Home. The alias is
used
 simply to have a different label. --

http://code.google.com/p/apps-for-android/source/browse/trunk/#trunk/Photostream


- Juan

On Oct 12, 11:31 am, Anm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The AliasActivity looks interesting, as a way to redirect a user to
 another activity/intent under a different name.  I can see this being
 used to put a launcher icon to a document/url. But I don't see any
 examples of it, or documentation of the XML to configure it.  (From
 the docs: To use this activity, you should include in the manifest
 for the associated component an entry named android.app.alias. It is
 a reference to an XML resource describing an intent that launches the
 real application. )

 Does anyone have any pointers?

 Secondly, I think I want to make a something that acts similar to the
 AliasActivity as my app's entry point, but redirects to the most
 recently used activity.  Calling startActivity() followed by finish()
 still invokes the activity after returning from the child activity
 (its still on the activity stack, despite the finish() call), leading
 to a loop that re-enters the child.  What should I be doing instead?
 (I.e., What does AliasActivity do?)

 Anxiously awaiting the sources so I can answer these types of
 questions on my own.

 Anm
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[android-developers] Re: Device unique ID, other than getDeviceId()?

2008-10-15 Thread jtaylor

It's hard to answer your questions when you know just about
everything.


- Juan T.

On Oct 15, 9:38 pm, Mark Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 jtaylor wrote:
  It's intuitive for there to be a permission placed on this info.

 It's definitely intuitive for there to be a permission on the IMEI. I am
 not quibbling that point at all.

 The problem is I'm porting something originally done on the iPhone,
 which has a UUID or something for each device independent of the IMEI
 (as I understand it) and definitely not requiring some special
 permission. Hence, the customer has...expectations.

   So just do the

  Overkill, putting a permission in there shouldn't be a problem.

 I sure hope it's not a problem. That permission, unfortunately, also
 covers things like read access to the device's phone number. And, until
 I get my paws on a G1, I don't even really know what the user is going
 to see when the permission request is presented, unless there's a way to
 test that in the emulator that I'm not aware of.

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[android-developers] Re: Device unique ID, other than getDeviceId()?

2008-10-15 Thread jtaylor

Hopefully in Android Market there'll be a way to, maybe through
analytics, to see if the user didn't accept the app because of fear of
the permissions. That's the only way to see and know for sure, through
some kind of analytics.


- Juan T.

On Oct 15, 9:38 pm, Mark Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 jtaylor wrote:
  It's intuitive for there to be a permission placed on this info.

 It's definitely intuitive for there to be a permission on the IMEI. I am
 not quibbling that point at all.

 The problem is I'm porting something originally done on the iPhone,
 which has a UUID or something for each device independent of the IMEI
 (as I understand it) and definitely not requiring some special
 permission. Hence, the customer has...expectations.

   So just do the

  Overkill, putting a permission in there shouldn't be a problem.

 I sure hope it's not a problem. That permission, unfortunately, also
 covers things like read access to the device's phone number. And, until
 I get my paws on a G1, I don't even really know what the user is going
 to see when the permission request is presented, unless there's a way to
 test that in the emulator that I'm not aware of.

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[android-developers] Re: phone to phone applications?

2008-10-07 Thread jtaylor

Good point!


- Juan T.

On Oct 7, 9:05 am, Marcio Maia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 i think we all agree on the importance of device-to-device (D2D)
 communication capabilities. The API would be crippled if it does not
 give support for this kind of interaction model. On the other hand, it
 opens opportunities for all developers to build standardized D2D
 communication abstractions to allow infrastructureless Android-based
 applications.

 If the Android API would have all capabilities a developer would want,
 what's the need for it to be open? Just let Google think of all our
 problems. I understand that what we developers would want is to think
 only on application-specific issues, and let communication- security-
 performance-, ... related decisions on the API to decide.



 On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Mark Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  jtaylor wrote:
  I think the loss of XMPP-like capability is pretty big.

  Two points:

  1. There is nothing preventing you from building an XMPP-based app. Just
  because the Android SDK doesn't include an XMPP API should not be a
  blocking point, any more than Android not including an email API would
  preclude creating an email client, or Android not including a Twitter
  API would preclude creating a Twitter client.

  2. XMPP is server-based; the OP wanted device-to-device communications
  without a server, if I understood correctly.

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[android-developers] Re: I need to develop a calendar application using Android.

2008-10-07 Thread jtaylor

Either the standard Java API or the Google Calendar API.


- Juan T.

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 Any one can tell me about how we can  develop calender application
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 Please help me..

 i will be really thankful to you..

 Thanks in advance.
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[android-developers] Re: phone to phone applications?

2008-10-06 Thread jtaylor


Mark,

I think the loss of XMPP-like capability is pretty big. Mike Cleron in
the youtube Androidology said that he thinks the compelling apps
(mashups) include that capability. I think it really replaces the
server infrastructure. If you build a server infrastructure now, then
soon your app won't need it. How does that work? :) Well, you can't
really build the app properly yet. ..But it's good that it will be
more built into the system, attached to android and not just to a
Google address.


- Juan T.



On Oct 5, 3:52 pm, Mark Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 whitehexagon wrote:
  I'm really struggling to find information on if it's possible to get
  two android handsets talking to each other without an intermediate
  server.  In theory this should be possible via wireless or more likely
  BlueTooth.  But both API's seem crippled to prevent this, or am I
  missing something?  

 It has been stated that the Bluetooth APIs were taken out due to lack of
 time to get the API stabilized in time:

 http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/08/some-information-on-ap...

 Peer-to-peer Internet communication should be as possible on Android as
 it is on any platform -- difficult with absolutely zero server
 assistance, but not too tough if you can at least use a server for
 obtaining the IP address of the peer(s) to communicate with. Of course,
 there are issues of firewalls, NAT traversal, mobile carrier terms of
 service, and security to deal with, none of which are trivial.

   I find it hard to believe android would be

  launched without some kind of phone to phone communication support?

 If the Android core team committed to doing everything everyone wanted
 before 1.0, we'd never have any Android devices, because they would
 never be done. You want built-in P2P. Some other guy wants built-in
 infrared. Still others want A2DP profiles. Yet others want all those API
 features hackbod gets to say aren't available in 1.0. And so on. The
 Android core team had to draw a line *somewhere*.

 The good news is that, once Android 1.0 is released as open source,
 there will hopefully be a means for public contributions, meaning you'll
 be able to help add those things you feel are needed.

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[android-developers] Re: Best practice - buttons or menu items?

2008-10-03 Thread jtaylor

A button is fundamentally attached to the UI. A Go search button is
attached to a textbox, or a start and stop in a stopwatch defines
the UI. Otherwise it's a menu item.


- Juan T.




On Oct 3, 3:12 pm, Charlie Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Every time I make a new screen I find myself debating which buttons
 should be on screen buttons, and which should be menu items, and or
 which should be both. I was wondering what others thing about this.
 Are there general guidelines or logical approaches that people are
 using? I apologize up front if this is a silly question, but it comes
 up again and again in my own head, and I haven't found any
 documentation or direction on it really.

 I notice that the built in contacts app, for example, has the sort of
 main actions like new contact, edit contact, save, discard,
 etc, as menu items.  But it also has Add Icon as both a menu item
 and as an on screen button.

 I personally think it makes the most sense to use the menu for high
 level actions, so save and add and so on make sense in the menu.
 But maybe that is subjective? Is it just whatever works best with the
 screen real estate and layout, etc.

 Seems like the menu is faster/more intuitive if you can use it, but
 with the d-pad all the on screen buttons work too whether or not the
 device is touch capable, and being on screen makes the choices more
 obvious.
 What to the UI gurus and Android devs think are some best practices in
 terms of making button/menu choices?
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[android-developers] Re: Documentation Blues

2008-09-29 Thread jtaylor

Hello Megha,

The m denotes a member field and is part of the Android coding style
standards.
http://code.google.com/android/intro/tutorial-ex2.html

This is the mention of 'Android coding style standards' in the notepad
tutorial. I don't see them in the documentation though.

Everything looks updated now. I guess a few days wasn't too bad.


- Juan

On Sep 29, 1:52 pm, Megha Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2008/9/27 jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]



  Hello Android Team,

  Consider this a helpful criticism. But this sentence is still on the
  very front of the Documentation. - A beta version of the Android SDK
  is available for download. and it's been a few days since the 1.0 SDK
  has been released.

 Thanks for the pointer...this text will be updated with the next docs
 release.

  This means that the Documentation hasn't been updated.

 No, certainly it does not mean that. The docs are updated generally on a
 biweekly basis and with every sdk release.

 Also the

  samples.

 Again, the samples have been updated, let us know if you have anything
 specific in mind.

 No Gears documentation.

 There is no support for Gears with Android yet.

 apps-for-android apps wasn't updated

  right away though I haven't checked recently.

 app-for-android is an on-going project, its updated with new apps
 frequently.  Most of them would work on 1.0. If something does not, please
 file a issue in the apps-for-android project page itself.

 Classes mixed up.

 Could you be more specific here...



  Mention of Android-coding-style-standards in the docs but these coding
  standards are nowhere to be found, yet they are used in the sample
  apps.

 and here...



  My suggestion is that in an update to the SDK, everything should be
  updated at the same exact time. Since Android is a new contraption,
  then one needs a manual. And if the contraption is new and the manual
  is beta, then that's a bug. To a developer, the docs are inseparable
  from the SDK.

 Thats true, and that is how its done with Android.  Thanks for your
 feedback..always appreciated :)

  There are a few new permissions related to the subscribed feeds
  ContentProvider, yet there does not appear to be any documentation of
  such a provider. The quoted phrase suggests it handles RSS/Atom feeds
  on behalf of client applications, and as such would be a handy
  addition to the framework. But, without a documented list of available
  properties and such, it would be difficult to use.
 http://androidguys.com/?p=1785

 http://androidguys.com/?p=1785



  From what Mark said here, it wouldn't be difficult but impossible to
  use. :)

  - Juan t.
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[android-developers] Documentation Blues

2008-09-27 Thread jtaylor

Hello Android Team,

Consider this a helpful criticism. But this sentence is still on the
very front of the Documentation. - A beta version of the Android SDK
is available for download. and it's been a few days since the 1.0 SDK
has been released.

This means that the Documentation hasn't been updated. Also the
samples. No Gears documentation. apps-for-android apps wasn't updated
right away though I haven't checked recently. Classes mixed up.
Mention of Android-coding-style-standards in the docs but these coding
standards are nowhere to be found, yet they are used in the sample
apps.

My suggestion is that in an update to the SDK, everything should be
updated at the same exact time. Since Android is a new contraption,
then one needs a manual. And if the contraption is new and the manual
is beta, then that's a bug. To a developer, the docs are inseparable
from the SDK.

There are a few new permissions related to the “subscribed feeds
ContentProvider”, yet there does not appear to be any documentation of
such a provider. The quoted phrase suggests it handles RSS/Atom feeds
on behalf of client applications, and as such would be a handy
addition to the framework. But, without a documented list of available
properties and such, it would be difficult to use.
http://androidguys.com/?p=1785

From what Mark said here, it wouldn't be difficult but impossible to
use. :)


- Juan t.


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[android-developers] Re: Documentation Blues

2008-09-27 Thread jtaylor

Yes, so Google can get Developers out of the ecosystem in return. :)


- Juan

On Sep 27, 10:33 am, Mark Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 jtaylor wrote:
  Yes and Absolutely. The SDK is inseparable to the Documentation.
  Otherwise the SDK is only for those who are the top something percent
  who can get into the code, etc. When I look at a class, I would like
  to be pretty sure that class exists within 1.0 and I'm not looking at
  an illusion. There's the release notes, etc. But I have to have the
  release notes, etc on one tab and the classes on another?

 I didn't mean to sound like I was knocking your opinion.

 It's more that I see lots and lots of Google should do X posts that
 don't go on to say ...in exchange for Y or ...so Google can get Z out
 of the ecosystem in return.

 If your position is better docs, in exchange for a later ship date,
 then that's a fine position.

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[android-developers] Re: Documentation Blues

2008-09-27 Thread jtaylor

You or I could correct many things in the documentation just given one
day. So it's not a herculean effort. ..My point is that the SDK is
useless without the documentation. Right now the docs are in beta.
Android is a challenge as is. It wouldn't be just nice to have good
docs, it's essential. ..And having that sentence on the front doesn't
elicit an incredible trust in android as a whole. ..I'm on Android's
side but I feel I have to make a comment on these things.


- Juan T.

On Sep 27, 10:18 am, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes and Absolutely. The SDK is inseparable to the Documentation.
 Otherwise the SDK is only for those who are the top something percent
 who can get into the code, etc. When I look at a class, I would like
 to be pretty sure that class exists within 1.0 and I'm not looking at
 an illusion. There's the release notes, etc. But I have to have the
 release notes, etc on one tab and the classes on another?

 - Juan T.

 On Sep 27, 9:59 am, Mark Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  jtaylor wrote:
   My suggestion is that in an update to the SDK, everything should be
   updated at the same exact time.

  Are you willing to have the SDK be delayed to accomplish that goal?

  I'm not saying it wouldn't be nice. But I have to assume that the
  Android team is strapped for time for the G1 rollout, and documentation
  is an easy and common thing to let slide a bit. It's been done before.

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[android-developers] Re: Google Chrome or WebKit on Android?

2008-09-25 Thread jtaylor

Both are based on Webkit. The Android Browser is created specifically
for mobile. Chrome is created specifically for the Desktop.


- Juan

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 of WebKit. Hence, Android-based mobile devices users will benefit from
 awesome features bundled in the browser. Let Android Engineers think
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[android-developers] Re: Google Chrome or WebKit on Android?

2008-09-25 Thread jtaylor

ZDNet has this article.

September 24th, 2008
Google Gears now inside Android’s “Chrome Lite”
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Burnette/?p=662


- Juan

On Sep 25, 11:54 am, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Both are based on Webkit. The Android Browser is created specifically
 for mobile. Chrome is created specifically for the Desktop.

 - Juan

 On Sep 25, 12:30 am, Ramon Rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Since the release of Google Chrome I've been thinking the possibility
  of the new browser being integrated with the Android Platform insted
  of WebKit. Hence, Android-based mobile devices users will benefit from
  awesome features bundled in the browser. Let Android Engineers think
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[android-developers] Re: Google Chrome or WebKit on Android?

2008-09-25 Thread jtaylor

I think we just have to wait until the documentation is updated.


On Sep 25, 3:34 pm, Guillaume Perrot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What about the javascript virtual machine from V8 used by Google
 Chrome.
 Does Android use it as well ?

 On 25 sep, 21:08, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  ZDNet has this article.

  September 24th, 2008
  Google Gears now inside Android’s “Chrome 
  Lite”http://blogs.zdnet.com/Burnette/?p=662

  - Juan

  On Sep 25, 11:54 am, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Both are based on Webkit. The Android Browser is created specifically
   for mobile. Chrome is created specifically for the Desktop.

   - Juan

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[android-developers] Re: Android 1.0 SDK Released

2008-09-24 Thread jtaylor

Congrats! This is bigger than the G1. ..My Emulator is very stable.


- Juan T.

On Sep 23, 6:09 pm, Megha Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 We're pleased to announce the release of the Android 1.0 SDK, release 1.

 For full information, please see Dan Morrill's blog post:

 http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/09/announcing-android-10-...

 SDK Download:

    http://code.google.com/android/download.html

 Overview of Changes since 0.9 SDK:

      http://code.google.com/android/migrating/0.9-1.0/changes-overview.html

 Android Developer Guide:

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 Thanks for using the Android SDK and Happy coding!

 Cheers,
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[android-developers] UserTask

2008-09-12 Thread jtaylor


In the Photostream App is UserTask.java. How much more efficient is
this class then using threads and handlers as normally? In UserTask,
there's alot of things from java.util.concurrent, threadpools, etc.
Does this mean UserTask is probably more efficient? In what
circumstances is it probably more efficient?


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[android-developers] Re: UserTask

2008-09-12 Thread jtaylor

Great! And who wrote Photostream?


- Juan T.

On Sep 12, 7:54 pm, Romain Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It should be as efficient as using threads and handlers yourself.

 On Sep 12, 2008 4:38 PM, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In the Photostream App is UserTask.java. How much more efficient is
 this class then using threads and handlers as normally? In UserTask,
 there's alot of things from java.util.concurrent, threadpools, etc.
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 circumstances is it probably more efficient?

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[android-developers] Re: Feature Request: Virtual Contacts Content Provider

2008-08-28 Thread jtaylor

Why was I thinking the contacts provider was different and
standard? :)


- Juan T.

On Aug 28, 2:03 am, hackbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yeah too late for 1.0. :}  But you know, there is no reason someone
 else couldn't write such a thing -- the contacts provider itself is
 just an app and there is nothing special about it, so a virtual
 contacts provider doesn't need any special platform support either.

 On Aug 27, 3:29 pm, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  p.s. I guess if there's time at this late date.
  If not, then maybe the next version of Android since it's such a big
  thing.

  - Juan T.

  On Aug 27, 5:20 pm, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Yes, that's the point, not to mix them. So two different contact
   providers separates the two different types of contacts.

   If the other type of contact provider (not for personal contacts)
   called the Virtual Contacts Content Provider isn't provided, then
   developers have to make their own content provider for the users
   virtual (social space contacts, etc.) contacts that are part of their
   app. So it's either each app builds their own virtual contacts
   Content Provider -or- there is a standard Content Provider for these
   virtual contacts. So that's what I'm saying.

   On Aug 27, 4:43 pm, hackbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Aug 27, 1:26 pm, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Also to mention that there should be big differences. Such as that
 Virtual Contacts don't have a phone number.

It sounds to me like you are talking about a different kind of content
provider, not the normal contacts provider.

 You may press a button to
 put a virtual contact in your Personal Contacts though. Anyway, I
 think this is very important. This was an issue with the GTalkService
 problem I believe. But hopefully this will be in 1.0 because so many
 apps will use Virtual Contacts and not just Personal Contacts.

No, there will be nothing like this in 1.0.  As you've see, one of the
reasons why the GTalk data API was removed was because of the concern
of mixing these two kinds of people.
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[android-developers] Re: Feature Request: Virtual Contacts Content Provider

2008-08-28 Thread jtaylor

It would nice to explore how to build a whole infrastructure (through
a Virtual Contacts Content Provider) for Social Apps. A company like
Facebook probably doesn't just want to be on webkit. It wants the
profiles to be in a content provider for fast access outside the
network, syncing from time to time with their servers. And if everyone
builds their own social app mechanisms what sense does that make?

- Juan T.


On Aug 28, 6:03 am, Peli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yeah too late for 1.0. :}  But you know, there is no reason someone
  else couldn't write such a thing --

 Indeed, it sounds like a great extension for OpenIntents :-)

 We already have an open shopping list provider, a tags provider, a
 locations provider - so why not a virtual contacts provider?

 Currently we're still upgrading all our code base to the SDK 0.9 (it
 is holiday season, so progress is slow...), but we already started
 some discussion about additional features for 1.0+, so feel free to
 join our discussion 
 there:http://groups.google.com/group/openintents/browse_frm/thread/fe34d4af...

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[android-developers] Re: Feature Request: Virtual Contacts Content Provider

2008-08-28 Thread jtaylor

And then RPC, this device to device communication I don't believe is
even going to work without being on top of a social app
infrastructure.


- Juan T.

On Aug 28, 6:03 am, Peli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yeah too late for 1.0. :}  But you know, there is no reason someone
  else couldn't write such a thing --

 Indeed, it sounds like a great extension for OpenIntents :-)

 We already have an open shopping list provider, a tags provider, a
 locations provider - so why not a virtual contacts provider?

 Currently we're still upgrading all our code base to the SDK 0.9 (it
 is holiday season, so progress is slow...), but we already started
 some discussion about additional features for 1.0+, so feel free to
 join our discussion 
 there:http://groups.google.com/group/openintents/browse_frm/thread/fe34d4af...

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[android-developers] Re: Feature Request: Virtual Contacts Content Provider

2008-08-28 Thread jtaylor

Correction: I was meaning a 'Virtual Contacts Provider' not a new type
of Content Provider. However, I ended up meaning probably both a
Provider (like contacts) and a new type of Content Provider.


- Juan T.

On Aug 27, 4:17 pm, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The problem with Contacts in mobile devices is that there are two
 types of Contacts. One is what I call Personal Contacts (family and
 friends) and the other is Virtual Contacts (social app friends/
 multiplayer games). The Virtual Contacts don't go in the same place as
 Personal Contacts. So where do Virtual Contacts go?

 Some apps will have Virtual Contacts in the browser (on the web) and
 others within the mobile app on the device. So speaking of those that
 are part of a mobile app on the device, where should virtual contacts
 go? If you put virtual and personal contacts together, separating
 virtual contacts with a column/field value, what happens when an app
 simply requests all contacts considering them all personal contacts?
 So I don't see how a group field would work.

 So I think one has to set up a totally new Content Provider for
 Virtual Contacts. Either from scratch for each application or unified
 and having that group field so new apps can just use the 'Virtual
 Contacts Content Provider'.

 So can we have that? A  'Virtual Contacts Content Provider'?

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[android-developers] Re: Feature Request: Virtual Contacts Content Provider

2008-08-28 Thread jtaylor

Well, what is this android.content.SyncProvider and
android.content.SyncableContentProvider? A Virtual Contacts Provider
does alot with Sync. That's probably the main thing it does, while
reputation etc. is on the server. It may have a special table as part
of the provider/database where different apps have their info to do
the Syncing. Does that sound like SyncProvider or
SyncableContentProvider?


- Juan T.


On Aug 28, 5:47 pm, hackbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There is no need for a new type of ContentProvider.  A ContentProvider
 is just a very abstract interface to a structured data store.  I can't
 imagine anything about a virtual contacts provider that would
 require a new kind of basic content provider.

 As far as device to device communication, yes, one of the things we
 need to do is have some other way to manage users.  We don't have
 anything to talk about for it at this point, though.

 On Aug 28, 1:18 pm, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Correction: I was meaning a 'Virtual Contacts Provider' not a new type
  of Content Provider. However, I ended up meaning probably both a
  Provider (like contacts) and a new type of Content Provider.

  - Juan T.

  On Aug 27, 4:17 pm, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   The problem with Contacts in mobile devices is that there are two
   types of Contacts. One is what I call Personal Contacts (family and
   friends) and the other is Virtual Contacts (social app friends/
   multiplayer games). The Virtual Contacts don't go in the same place as
   Personal Contacts. So where do Virtual Contacts go?

   Some apps will have Virtual Contacts in the browser (on the web) and
   others within the mobile app on the device. So speaking of those that
   are part of a mobile app on the device, where should virtual contacts
   go? If you put virtual and personal contacts together, separating
   virtual contacts with a column/field value, what happens when an app
   simply requests all contacts considering them all personal contacts?
   So I don't see how a group field would work.

   So I think one has to set up a totally new Content Provider for
   Virtual Contacts. Either from scratch for each application or unified
   and having that group field so new apps can just use the 'Virtual
   Contacts Content Provider'.

   So can we have that? A  'Virtual Contacts Content Provider'?

   - Juan T.
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[android-developers] Re: Comunication Server-Phone: SMS directed to an application (0.9 SDK)

2008-08-27 Thread jtaylor

SMS is probably problematic on more than one level.
There are HTTP api's and that's what you want. JAVA has an api and
Apache has one as well.




On Aug 26, 9:35 am, Cristina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!

 We are designing an application for android phones. In our application
 there is a central server, and this server must send some application
 information to the phone.
 So, we thought to use SMS in order to communicate with our application
 in the phone.
 Our application will look for messages with a particular prefix and
 consume it. Other applications (including messagig applications)
 should not get the application SMS messages.

 In order to do that, we have implemeted a Sms BroadcastReceiver, that
 get all SMS messages, but only processed the ones with the application
 prefix. After processing them, we do an abortBroadcast(), in order to
 stop the broadcast of the message to the Messaging application or
 other applications receiving the same intent.

 However, SMS Inbox is receiving the message, and is showing the
 message in the notification application.

 1.  Is there any way for an application to receive the SMS message,
 avoiding the rest of applications to receive it? Is abortBroadcast
 working for SMS broadcast intents? I understand that maybe the
 abortBroadcast is not working for SMS broadcast intents, because of
 security reasons (for example we could abort the broadcast of all SMS
 messages ). Is there another way for an application to to receive SMS
 messages in an exclusive way (the rest of applications do not
 receive it)?

 2. Is there any other way to communicate information from a external
 server to the application in the phone?

 For example, In other projects with other phones we have  used
 transparent wappush to implement that communication..Does android
 support wappush protocol?

 We would not like to implement an always open connection in the phone
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[android-developers] Feature Request: Virtual Contacts Content Provider

2008-08-27 Thread jtaylor

The problem with Contacts in mobile devices is that there are two
types of Contacts. One is what I call Personal Contacts (family and
friends) and the other is Virtual Contacts (social app friends/
multiplayer games). The Virtual Contacts don't go in the same place as
Personal Contacts. So where do Virtual Contacts go?

Some apps will have Virtual Contacts in the browser (on the web) and
others within the mobile app on the device. So speaking of those that
are part of a mobile app on the device, where should virtual contacts
go? If you put virtual and personal contacts together, separating
virtual contacts with a column/field value, what happens when an app
simply requests all contacts considering them all personal contacts?
So I don't see how a group field would work.

So I think one has to set up a totally new Content Provider for
Virtual Contacts. Either from scratch for each application or unified
and having that group field so new apps can just use the 'Virtual
Contacts Content Provider'.

So can we have that? A  'Virtual Contacts Content Provider'?


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[android-developers] Re: Feature Request: Virtual Contacts Content Provider

2008-08-27 Thread jtaylor

Also to mention that there should be big differences. Such as that
Virtual Contacts don't have a phone number. You may press a button to
put a virtual contact in your Personal Contacts though. Anyway, I
think this is very important. This was an issue with the GTalkService
problem I believe. But hopefully this will be in 1.0 because so many
apps will use Virtual Contacts and not just Personal Contacts.

Or am I missing anything?


- Juan T.

On Aug 27, 4:17 pm, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The problem with Contacts in mobile devices is that there are two
 types of Contacts. One is what I call Personal Contacts (family and
 friends) and the other is Virtual Contacts (social app friends/
 multiplayer games). The Virtual Contacts don't go in the same place as
 Personal Contacts. So where do Virtual Contacts go?

 Some apps will have Virtual Contacts in the browser (on the web) and
 others within the mobile app on the device. So speaking of those that
 are part of a mobile app on the device, where should virtual contacts
 go? If you put virtual and personal contacts together, separating
 virtual contacts with a column/field value, what happens when an app
 simply requests all contacts considering them all personal contacts?
 So I don't see how a group field would work.

 So I think one has to set up a totally new Content Provider for
 Virtual Contacts. Either from scratch for each application or unified
 and having that group field so new apps can just use the 'Virtual
 Contacts Content Provider'.

 So can we have that? A  'Virtual Contacts Content Provider'?

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[android-developers] Re: Feature Request: Virtual Contacts Content Provider

2008-08-27 Thread jtaylor

Yes, that's the point, not to mix them. So two different contact
providers separates the two different types of contacts.

If the other type of contact provider (not for personal contacts)
called the Virtual Contacts Content Provider isn't provided, then
developers have to make their own content provider for the users
virtual (social space contacts, etc.) contacts that are part of their
app. So it's either each app builds their own virtual contacts
Content Provider -or- there is a standard Content Provider for these
virtual contacts. So that's what I'm saying.



On Aug 27, 4:43 pm, hackbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Aug 27, 1:26 pm, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Also to mention that there should be big differences. Such as that
  Virtual Contacts don't have a phone number.

 It sounds to me like you are talking about a different kind of content
 provider, not the normal contacts provider.

  You may press a button to
  put a virtual contact in your Personal Contacts though. Anyway, I
  think this is very important. This was an issue with the GTalkService
  problem I believe. But hopefully this will be in 1.0 because so many
  apps will use Virtual Contacts and not just Personal Contacts.

 No, there will be nothing like this in 1.0.  As you've see, one of the
 reasons why the GTalk data API was removed was because of the concern
 of mixing these two kinds of people.
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[android-developers] Re: Feature Request: Virtual Contacts Content Provider

2008-08-27 Thread jtaylor

p.s. I guess if there's time at this late date.
If not, then maybe the next version of Android since it's such a big
thing.

- Juan T.



On Aug 27, 5:20 pm, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes, that's the point, not to mix them. So two different contact
 providers separates the two different types of contacts.

 If the other type of contact provider (not for personal contacts)
 called the Virtual Contacts Content Provider isn't provided, then
 developers have to make their own content provider for the users
 virtual (social space contacts, etc.) contacts that are part of their
 app. So it's either each app builds their own virtual contacts
 Content Provider -or- there is a standard Content Provider for these
 virtual contacts. So that's what I'm saying.

 On Aug 27, 4:43 pm, hackbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Aug 27, 1:26 pm, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Also to mention that there should be big differences. Such as that
   Virtual Contacts don't have a phone number.

  It sounds to me like you are talking about a different kind of content
  provider, not the normal contacts provider.

   You may press a button to
   put a virtual contact in your Personal Contacts though. Anyway, I
   think this is very important. This was an issue with the GTalkService
   problem I believe. But hopefully this will be in 1.0 because so many
   apps will use Virtual Contacts and not just Personal Contacts.

  No, there will be nothing like this in 1.0.  As you've see, one of the
  reasons why the GTalk data API was removed was because of the concern
  of mixing these two kinds of people.
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[android-developers] Android Test-driven Development

2008-08-23 Thread jtaylor

It looks like android.test is basically an extension of the JUnit
Framework for android specific cases. Is test-driven development the
way to go? Should this be a standard in Android development?

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[android-developers] Webkit Mobile Web Applications

2008-04-16 Thread jtaylor

What's going on with Mobile Web Applications like Gears for Mobile
versus Android. I've heard some say that Web Applications will be in
vogue over Android Java apps. What's going on there? Specifically, are
there hooks in the Webkit api that are for such web applications?


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[android-developers] Re: Are you satisfied or disappointed with the level of support from Google, for Android?

2008-04-07 Thread jtaylor

That's important for the Android team
and for the Open Handset Alliance and its members, that's important
for Google. That's also important for the developer community and for
the end users.

Hello Jean-Baptiste,

I suggest that the aim be for the phones to come out in 2009. If
everyone is patient, then that will be a proof of cooperation. The
Android Team doesn't needs phones for 2008. Neither does the OHA. And
there can be more Developer Challenges.

More Developer Challenges would appear to be important in two ways. To
perfect Android and also for Google promotion. ATT seeks to depart
more away from Google apps which is reasonable for them. However,
Google has the Cloud and that Cloud can come out in creative ways
through a couple more Developer Challenges.

At the risk of being melodramatic, Android is the most important piece
of software in human history. I really don't think it should be
rushed. Everyone should be patient and that Patience will pay off.


- Juan


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 (Notice: I'm a Google Software Engineer working on Android).

 One aspect which I hope is reasonably clear in everybody's minds is
 that getting devices available is really at the top of the priority list for
 everyone involved in Android. That's important for the Android team
 and for the Open Handset Alliance and its members, that's important
 for Google. That's also important for the developer community and for
 the end users.

 From that point of view, every day that passes without devices out there
 hurts the entire Android ecosystem, and therefore has a high cost.
 Because of that, whenever anyone has to choose between doing
 something that directly helps ship those first devices and something
 that doesn't directly help, the latter option has to carry a very high value
 in order to outweigh for the cost of delaying the first devices. That's why
 the SDK isn't as polished as it could be, that's why Google employees
 aren't as present on those forums as they could be: it would distract
 from the primary goal of shipping devices in 2008.

 It might sound surprising to many, but Google only has a finite number
 of people who are currently familiar enough with Android to be able to
 make a significant difference on either the ship date or the SDK and the
 developer community. It takes time and it takes money to grow a team,
 Google has a significant amount of money but remains careful about
 how they spend it like any well-managed company, and they can't do
 anything about time: even by having people work hard, there's always
 a limit to how much work any single person can achieve every day.

 All that explains why you're not seeing dozens of engineers spending
 several hours every day answering questions and helping people on
 the forums, or preparing a new SDK every other week: at the end of the
 timeline toward the first devices, that would result in delays that would
 be counted in weeks or even months. Having to choose is painful,
 because we'd all like to get the best of both worlds. You can't have
 your (proverbial) cake and eat it too, and right now we're a bitstuck
 between a (proverbial) rock and a (proverbial) hard place.

 Back to the issue of the SDK, I think that you've put the finger on one
 of one of the aspects that are hard to balance: how early and how often
 should it be released. Too early, and developers get some software
 that is too unstable and too far from the final product to be valuable.
 Not early enough, and developers don't have time to get familiar with
 it, provide valuable feedback and have applications ready for the first
 device. Too often, and developers will spend too much time chasing
 porting their code from one release to another and the whole ecosystem
 will be confused about what works and what doesn't in every release.
 Not often enough, and some developers will bestuckfor weeks on bugs
 that may have been fixed but be unavailable. And, like I said earlier,
 early and often have a negative impact on the ship date.

 During the software development cycle of a framework, you're likely to
 see 3 phases: bringup, unstable, and stabilization. During the bringup
 phase, the software improves quickly, but it is too rough and too far
 from its final shape to be valuable to many people - this is a phase
 that typically sees frequent releases to a very small number of close
 partners. During the unstable phase, the framework is large enough
 and is used by enough applications that it can't change quite as quickly
 as during the bringup, but it is still getting some very significant changes.
 This is the phase during which the release strategy changes from
 frequent limited releases to infrequent broad releases. This is the phase
 that M3 and M5 came from (as an example, you've all seen how the UI
 had changed between M3 and M5). Finally, there's a stabilization phase,
 where the framework gets fewer and fewer changes and gets closer and
 

[android-developers] Re: Can a GTalk message receiver know who sent the intent?

2008-04-02 Thread jtaylor

Peli,

My guess is that some kind of security layer will be added to the uses-
permission, etc. in the AndroidManifest.


- Juan

On Apr 2, 9:43 pm, Peli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thank you for this information. I had not found it in the
 documentation.

 Regarding the security issue, both, Juan and you, suggest to perform
 whatever security checks are necessary for my needs. But let me ask
 again:

 I'm not worried about the intents that I have control about. I could
 program them securely, maybe even exchanging public encryption keys
 through the bundle.

 I'm more worried about intents available on the phone that have never
 been designed or have never been intended to be used through GTalk. As
 an example, there could be a 3rd party intent that takes a picture
 with the internal camera and sends it to a contact email address
 automatically. It might have been meant as an internal thing within
 another application that was never designed to work with GTalk, so no
 special security checks were necessary.

 But it seems to me that any person that is on my GTalk's friend's list
 can launch that intent on my phone, without any restrictions, and send
 random photos to their email address.

 This model suggests, that each IntentReceiver should check whether its
 bundle contains a from field, and if it does, it should be more
 careful about processing things.

 I (and I guess most developers) have written most intents so far
 without this check. Have I introduced security holes? Or is it really
 my (the programmer's) task to secure every intent against unwanted
 launches by GTalk messages, even if the intents are never designed to
 be launched by GTalk?

 Peli

 On Apr 2, 10:52 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  The intent does contain the sender of the intent. If you use
  intent.getStringExtra(from) you will get the senders jid. If you
  only want to process intent from a select group of people you will
  need to add a check before processing it.

  On Mar 31, 4:35 pm, Peli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I have the following conceptual question:

   If I look at the GTalkDataMessageReceiver example 
   (http://code.google.com/android/samples/ApiDemos/src/com/google/androi...
   ) the receiver receives an intent that the sender sent. Except for the
   name GTalk, there is nothing in that class that uses any GTalk
   related API. The intent could therefore either come from a local
   sender or from a remote sender.

   Of course, the sender has to be part of the buddy list of the receiver
   for this to work, but if this is the case, it seems the IntentReceiver
   will not obtain any information about who sent this intent (unless the
   sender is kind enough to put this information into the bundle).

   I have the following concerns:
   * Once I have rights to send intents to a phone, I could send
   arbitrary intents and trigger arbitrary events on anther person's
   phone.
   * The intent receivers do not know who sent the intent. If this
   information is passed in the bundle, a sender could pretend to be a
   different sender.

   There should probably be additional permission settings on the
   receiver's side which determine which intents can be received from
   which sender. So far, I don't see any permission that can handle this.

   Or am I missing something here?

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[android-developers] Re: Special Actions for IGTalkSession.sendDataMessage()

2008-03-29 Thread jtaylor

Dan,

I think I have to explain my problem better. I think I mean a Custom
Action?

I am using the method IGTalkSession.sendDataMessage(). I want this
method to work. :) As far as I can tell, the second parameter needs an
Intent which broadcasts an action. It's not an explicit call to a
class which I wish it would be though. So right now the only thing
that works is this Action. (Which I shouldn't really use).

android.intent.action.SAMPLE_GTALK_DATA_MESSAGE

Attaching this to the Intent that goes into the second parameter of
IGTalkSession.sendDataMessage() is the only way to send a data
message. So I suppose I need to create my own Action to use
IGTalkSession.sendDataMessage()? Is so how do I create that Action?



- Juan



On Mar 29, 2:13 am, Dan Morrill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, Juan!

 An Intent is just a messenger object for abitrary data.  It sounds like you
 are looking for an API call to register your application's Intent with the
 system;  however, there is no such API.  All you need to do is just create
 an Intent instance and set the fields on it.  You never need to subclass
 Intent, or anything like that.

 Hope that helps,

 - Dan

 On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 5:19 PM, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:



  Where are there instructions to create a Custom Intent? I'm supposing
  I need it to send a data message in GTalk?

  - Juan

  On Mar 26, 8:19 pm, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   This is obviously an Intent defined by the App.
   android.intent.action.SAMPLE_GTALK_DATA_MESSAGE in the AndroidManifest
   is not a standard broadcast intent.

   There are a variety of standard Intent action and category constants
   defined in the Intent class, but applications can also define their
   own.
 http://code.google.com/android/reference/android/content/Intent.html

   Therefore, I'm concluding that to send a Data Message in GTalk one
   needs to define one's own Intent? Now how does one create a custom
   intent? I don't notice any place in the docs or groups on how to
   create a custom intent.

   - Juan

   On Mar 26, 11:50 am, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The second parameter for IGTalkSession.sendDataMessage() contains,
the intent object contains the action to be broadcasted by the
receiving device's GTalkService
 http://code.google.com/android/reference/com/google/android/gtalkserv...)

This is in the GTalkDataMessageSender.java,

Intent intent = new Intent(GTalkDataMessageReceiver.ACTION);
 http://code.google.com/android/samples/ApiDemos/src/com/google/androi...

What type of Action is this? Is this something that was created in a
special way? Where does this ACTION come from?
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[android-developers] Re: Special Actions for IGTalkSession.sendDataMessage()

2008-03-29 Thread jtaylor

Interesting!


..thanks Peli


- Juan

On Mar 29, 2:17 pm, Peli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Try this:

 public static final String YODEL_ACTION = com.jtaylor.action.YODEL;
 Intent intent = new Intent(this.YODEL_ACTION);

 (It is really just a string that you can define as you like).

 Peli

 On Mar 29, 6:52 pm, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Dan,

  I think I have to explain my problem better. I think I mean a Custom
  Action?

  I am using the method IGTalkSession.sendDataMessage(). I want this
  method to work. :) As far as I can tell, the second parameter needs an
  Intent which broadcasts an action. It's not an explicit call to a
  class which I wish it would be though. So right now the only thing
  that works is this Action. (Which I shouldn't really use).

  android.intent.action.SAMPLE_GTALK_DATA_MESSAGE

  Attaching this to the Intent that goes into the second parameter of
  IGTalkSession.sendDataMessage() is the only way to send a data
  message. So I suppose I need to create my own Action to use
  IGTalkSession.sendDataMessage()? Is so how do I create that Action?

  - Juan

  On Mar 29, 2:13 am, Dan Morrill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hi, Juan!

   An Intent is just a messenger object for abitrary data.  It sounds like 
   you
   are looking for an API call to register your application's Intent with the
   system;  however, there is no such API.  All you need to do is just create
   an Intent instance and set the fields on it.  You never need to subclass
   Intent, or anything like that.

   Hope that helps,

   - Dan

   On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 5:19 PM, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:

Where are there instructions to create a Custom Intent? I'm supposing
I need it to send a data message in GTalk?

- Juan

On Mar 26, 8:19 pm, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is obviously an Intent defined by the App.
 android.intent.action.SAMPLE_GTALK_DATA_MESSAGE in the AndroidManifest
 is not a standard broadcast intent.

 There are a variety of standard Intent action and category constants
 defined in the Intent class, but applications can also define their
 own.
   http://code.google.com/android/reference/android/content/Intent.html

 Therefore, I'm concluding that to send a Data Message in GTalk one
 needs to define one's own Intent? Now how does one create a custom
 intent? I don't notice any place in the docs or groups on how to
 create a custom intent.

 - Juan

 On Mar 26, 11:50 am, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  The second parameter for IGTalkSession.sendDataMessage() contains,
  the intent object contains the action to be broadcasted by the
  receiving device's GTalkService
   http://code.google.com/android/reference/com/google/android/gtalkserv...)

  This is in the GTalkDataMessageSender.java,

  Intent intent = new Intent(GTalkDataMessageReceiver.ACTION);
   http://code.google.com/android/samples/ApiDemos/src/com/google/androi...

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[android-developers] Re: Special Actions for IGTalkSession.sendDataMessage()

2008-03-28 Thread jtaylor

Where are there instructions to create a Custom Intent? I'm supposing
I need it to send a data message in GTalk?


- Juan

On Mar 26, 8:19 pm, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is obviously an Intent defined by the App.
 android.intent.action.SAMPLE_GTALK_DATA_MESSAGE in the AndroidManifest
 is not a standard broadcast intent.

 There are a variety of standard Intent action and category constants
 defined in the Intent class, but applications can also define their
 own.http://code.google.com/android/reference/android/content/Intent.html

 Therefore, I'm concluding that to send a Data Message in GTalk one
 needs to define one's own Intent? Now how does one create a custom
 intent? I don't notice any place in the docs or groups on how to
 create a custom intent.

 - Juan

 On Mar 26, 11:50 am, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  The second parameter for IGTalkSession.sendDataMessage() contains,
  the intent object contains the action to be broadcasted by the
  receiving device's 
  GTalkServicehttp://code.google.com/android/reference/com/google/android/gtalkserv...)

  This is in the GTalkDataMessageSender.java,

  Intent intent = new 
  Intent(GTalkDataMessageReceiver.ACTION);http://code.google.com/android/samples/ApiDemos/src/com/google/androi...

  What type of Action is this? Is this something that was created in a
  special way? Where does this ACTION come from?
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[android-developers] Re: Intent Receiver for android.intent.action.INSERT

2008-03-26 Thread jtaylor

Possibly using sync as well.


- Juan

On Mar 26, 1:42 pm, Peli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Could a ContentObserver be registered for cases like 
 these?http://code.google.com/android/reference/android/database/ContentObse...http://code.google.com/android/reference/android/content/ContentResol...)

 Peli

 On Mar 26, 6:02 pm, Dexter's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  ok...Let me tell you what i wanted to doI have a local file that
  has information about all the contacts on the phone. And my
  application uses this local file and not the phone book data
  directly

  So I wanted that, whenever a new contact is added or an old one is
  deleted, I should run a program that would update this local file .
  But this seems to be impossible right now if there's no intent for
  this. I will have to do a check for changes in the phone book and
  update my local file, everytime my application startsThats a bit
  of overhead on my appand will also affect the startup time...

  hackbod wrote:
   No, it has nothing to do with writing a contacts provider.  The
   provider is the back-end data; an activity is the user interface.  You
   just write a new activity that operates on the existing content
   provider.

   On Mar 26, 3:24 am, Diego Torres Milano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you want to write your own activity implementing those actions, how
would you do that ?
Implementing a new whole ContactsProvider ?
If you only want to replace, say INSERT ?
How your new ContactsProvider can coexist with the standard one if you
want to extend its functionality ?

On Mar 26, 7:35 am, hackbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The android.intent.action.INSERT and android.intent.action.VIEW
 actions are not broadcasts, they are actions for starting activities
 to show a UI to insert a new entry, or view an existing entry,
 respectively.  Thus you don't register for them with a receiver, you
 launch them with startActivity().  (You can also write your own
 activity implementing those actions to replace the standard UI, but
 that's probably not what you are wanting.)

 On Mar 25, 8:35 pm, Dexter's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Thanks Megha...But, will it be provided in the subsequent 
  releases???

  Can you think of a situation where we would need this???

  Dexter.

  On Mar 26, 3:15 am, Megha Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hi,

   I don't think that the intents for contacts added and contacts 
   deleted
   intents are broadcasted.
   So you cannot receive these intents.

   Thanks,
   Megha

   On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Dexter's Brain [EMAIL 
   PROTECTED]
   wrote:

Hello All,

I have an Intent Receiver which I will be triggered when a 
contact is
added or deleted.

My reciever properties in the androidmanifest.xml are as 
follows.

 receiver android:name=.ContactAdded
   intent-filter
   action 
ndroid:name=android.intent.action.INSERT
/
   action 
android:name=android.intent.action.VIEW
/
   /intent-filter
   /receiver

And in my Intent Reciever class, I have the following lines of 
code.

public class ContactAdded {
   public void onReceiveIntent(Context context, Intent 
intent){
   try{
   Log.i(Received Intent, 
intent.getAction());
   }
   catch(Exception e){
   Log.i(Exception in 
Intent,e.getLocalizedMessage
());
   }
   }
}

Now, when I try to add or delete a contact, I can see in the 
LogCat
that the required Intent is broadcast, but I don't see my 
message
Received Intent in the LogCat which I have coded in my 
reciever
class.

Am I doing something wrong???

Dexter.
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[android-developers] Re: Problem using XMPP demo in latest SDK emulator m5 rc 14

2008-03-25 Thread jtaylor

Hello Megha,

That doesn't work for me. The only thing I can think of is addition to
the buddy list.

I created 2 gmail accounts. I put them into the separate emulator
instances. I put the second account (aligned with the second emulator)
into the first account by way of putting the email address into the
email field of one of the Contacts. I even saved this contact as a
favorite. Both emulator instances have a check mark for XMPP in the
menu. I go to the first emulator instance and go to the sample app. I
put in the email attached to the other emulator instance (same one as
in contacts in this instance) and press enter as the button is
enabled. Alas, nothing happens on the other emulator.


- Juan





On Feb 19, 9:33 pm, Megha Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 Please follow the steps below to send a message using
 GTalkDataMessageReceiver demo :

 1) Start two emulator instances.
 2) In Eclipse  DDMS perspective  Devices , check that both the emulator
 devices are online.
 3) Sign into the Dev ToolsDevelopment Settings XMPP Settings of the first
 emulator with your gmail id (say [EMAIL PROTECTED]).
 4) Sign into the second emulator with a second separate gmail id (say
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ([EMAIL PROTECTED] should be in [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s buddy 
 list).
 5) In the first emulator go to ApiDemosAppsServiceGTalk Data Message
 Sender and type in [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 6) A message window appears in the second emulator as it receives message
 from step 4 above.

 Let us know if you face any issues.

 Thanks,
 Megha

 On Feb 18, 2008 6:36 AM, Nitin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi ,

  I am unable to get the GTalkDataMessageReceiver and
  GTalkDataMessageSender demo working in lates SDK release!! If anybody
  has been able to get that working please reply!! Before testing these
  demo applications I have already successfully registered my gmail
  account in the XMPP settings.I am trying to send the message to my own
  gmail id. It gives this error:

sendDataMessage: can't find the full JID for [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  failed to send message!

  If you have been able to successfully execute these demos please list
  the steps to do so!!

  Thanks in Advance!!

  -nitin
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[android-developers] Re: Problem using XMPP demo in latest SDK emulator m5 rc 14

2008-03-25 Thread jtaylor

Sorry, I posted from another thread and my response ended up on this
thread. I don't have APIDemos running on the second instance.


- Juan

On Mar 25, 6:14 pm, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Megha,

 That doesn't work for me. The only thing I can think of is addition to
 the buddy list.

 I created 2 gmail accounts. I put them into the separate emulator
 instances. I put the second account (aligned with the second emulator)
 into the first account by way of putting the email address into the
 email field of one of the Contacts. I even saved this contact as a
 favorite. Both emulator instances have a check mark for XMPP in the
 menu. I go to the first emulator instance and go to the sample app. I
 put in the email attached to the other emulator instance (same one as
 in contacts in this instance) and press enter as the button is
 enabled. Alas, nothing happens on the other emulator.

 - Juan

 On Feb 19, 9:33 pm, Megha Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi,

  Please follow the steps below to send a message using
  GTalkDataMessageReceiver demo :

  1) Start two emulator instances.
  2) In Eclipse  DDMS perspective  Devices , check that both the emulator
  devices are online.
  3) Sign into the Dev ToolsDevelopment Settings XMPP Settings of the first
  emulator with your gmail id (say [EMAIL PROTECTED]).
  4) Sign into the second emulator with a second separate gmail id (say
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ([EMAIL PROTECTED] should be in [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s 
  buddy list).
  5) In the first emulator go to ApiDemosAppsServiceGTalk Data Message
  Sender and type in [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  6) A message window appears in the second emulator as it receives message
  from step 4 above.

  Let us know if you face any issues.

  Thanks,
  Megha

  On Feb 18, 2008 6:36 AM, Nitin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hi ,

   I am unable to get the GTalkDataMessageReceiver and
   GTalkDataMessageSender demo working in lates SDK release!! If anybody
   has been able to get that working please reply!! Before testing these
   demo applications I have already successfully registered my gmail
   account in the XMPP settings.I am trying to send the message to my own
   gmail id. It gives this error:

 sendDataMessage: can't find the full JID for [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   failed to send message!

   If you have been able to successfully execute these demos please list
   the steps to do so!!

   Thanks in Advance!!

   -nitin
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[android-developers] Re: Problem using XMPP demo in latest SDK emulator m5 rc 14

2008-03-25 Thread jtaylor

Sorry, I posted from another thread and my response ended up on this
thread. I don't have APIDemos running on the second instance.


- Juan

On Mar 25, 6:14 pm, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Megha,

 That doesn't work for me. The only thing I can think of is addition to
 the buddy list.

 I created 2 gmail accounts. I put them into the separate emulator
 instances. I put the second account (aligned with the second emulator)
 into the first account by way of putting the email address into the
 email field of one of the Contacts. I even saved this contact as a
 favorite. Both emulator instances have a check mark for XMPP in the
 menu. I go to the first emulator instance and go to the sample app. I
 put in the email attached to the other emulator instance (same one as
 in contacts in this instance) and press enter as the button is
 enabled. Alas, nothing happens on the other emulator.

 - Juan

 On Feb 19, 9:33 pm, Megha Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi,

  Please follow the steps below to send a message using
  GTalkDataMessageReceiver demo :

  1) Start two emulator instances.
  2) In Eclipse  DDMS perspective  Devices , check that both the emulator
  devices are online.
  3) Sign into the Dev ToolsDevelopment Settings XMPP Settings of the first
  emulator with your gmail id (say [EMAIL PROTECTED]).
  4) Sign into the second emulator with a second separate gmail id (say
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ([EMAIL PROTECTED] should be in [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s 
  buddy list).
  5) In the first emulator go to ApiDemosAppsServiceGTalk Data Message
  Sender and type in [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  6) A message window appears in the second emulator as it receives message
  from step 4 above.

  Let us know if you face any issues.

  Thanks,
  Megha

  On Feb 18, 2008 6:36 AM, Nitin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hi ,

   I am unable to get the GTalkDataMessageReceiver and
   GTalkDataMessageSender demo working in lates SDK release!! If anybody
   has been able to get that working please reply!! Before testing these
   demo applications I have already successfully registered my gmail
   account in the XMPP settings.I am trying to send the message to my own
   gmail id. It gives this error:

 sendDataMessage: can't find the full JID for [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   failed to send message!

   If you have been able to successfully execute these demos please list
   the steps to do so!!

   Thanks in Advance!!

   -nitin
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[android-developers] Re: Problem using XMPP demo in latest SDK emulator m5 rc 14

2008-03-25 Thread jtaylor

How do I get the APIDemos on the other emulator?



- Juan

On Mar 25, 6:28 pm, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry, I posted from another thread and my response ended up on this
 thread. I don't have APIDemos running on the second instance.

 - Juan

 On Mar 25, 6:14 pm, jtaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hello Megha,

  That doesn't work for me. The only thing I can think of is addition to
  the buddy list.

  I created 2 gmail accounts. I put them into the separate emulator
  instances. I put the second account (aligned with the second emulator)
  into the first account by way of putting the email address into the
  email field of one of the Contacts. I even saved this contact as a
  favorite. Both emulator instances have a check mark for XMPP in the
  menu. I go to the first emulator instance and go to the sample app. I
  put in the email attached to the other emulator instance (same one as
  in contacts in this instance) and press enter as the button is
  enabled. Alas, nothing happens on the other emulator.

  - Juan

  On Feb 19, 9:33 pm, Megha Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hi,

   Please follow the steps below to send a message using
   GTalkDataMessageReceiver demo :

   1) Start two emulator instances.
   2) In Eclipse  DDMS perspective  Devices , check that both the emulator
   devices are online.
   3) Sign into the Dev ToolsDevelopment Settings XMPP Settings of the 
   first
   emulator with your gmail id (say [EMAIL PROTECTED]).
   4) Sign into the second emulator with a second separate gmail id (say
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ([EMAIL PROTECTED] should be in [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s 
   buddy list).
   5) In the first emulator go to ApiDemosAppsServiceGTalk Data Message
   Sender and type in [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   6) A message window appears in the second emulator as it receives message
   from step 4 above.

   Let us know if you face any issues.

   Thanks,
   Megha

   On Feb 18, 2008 6:36 AM, Nitin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi ,

I am unable to get the GTalkDataMessageReceiver and
GTalkDataMessageSender demo working in lates SDK release!! If anybody
has been able to get that working please reply!! Before testing these
demo applications I have already successfully registered my gmail
account in the XMPP settings.I am trying to send the message to my own
gmail id. It gives this error:

  sendDataMessage: can't find the full JID for [EMAIL PROTECTED],
failed to send message!

If you have been able to successfully execute these demos please list
the steps to do so!!

Thanks in Advance!!

-nitin
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