[android-developers] Re: About Phone GAP

2011-12-02 Thread ghenne
For an alternative to working with HTML/CSS/JS, have a look at NS Basic/App 
Studio http://www.nsbasic.com/app. It's got a drag and drop interface for 
creating forms and lets you code in a subset of VB or in JavaScript. The 
projects can be deployed as web apps or through a built in interface to 
PhoneGap.

It makes life much easier for people coming from VB like environments. 

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Re: [android-developers] Re: About Phone GAP

2011-12-02 Thread Miguel Morales
It's ok for what it is.
But, it's just all the layers of abstraction in HTML/JS that make it really
slow.
I doubt they will gain much more speed on mobile devices, perhaps by using
hardware acceleartion.

In either case, it's slow and it looks and feels like crap.
But it's perfect for simple apps, users just want things that work.
 Although they prefer things that work well.

On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 1:42 AM, ghenne g...@nsbasic.com wrote:

 For an alternative to working with HTML/CSS/JS, have a look at NS
 Basic/App Studio http://www.nsbasic.com/app. It's got a drag and drop
 interface for creating forms and lets you code in a subset of VB or in
 JavaScript. The projects can be deployed as web apps or through a built in
 interface to PhoneGap.

 It makes life much easier for people coming from VB like environments.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: About Phone GAP

2011-12-02 Thread Subin Sebastian
Hi All,

The thing is that Phonegap and Sencha/JQuery mobile are not the same.
Phonegap is a framework which extends Android Webview. Sencha/JQMob
provides a wrapper to HTML/CSS to make it UX friendly. I have used phonegap
to run applications on Android before I started with native programming.
Phonegap cloud build is good place to hold source code and to build apps
for different platforms. But it doesn't mean that PhoneGap is the only
solution to develop cross platform mobile applications!!!

AnscaMobile's corona is a far more effective way. Even though they only
priced options and package becomes heavier, it is professionally written -
even for gaming! Anyway, I dont like PhoneGap or Corona just because of
their poor performance over native or NDK applications on Android.

Regards

On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 3:42 AM, Miguel Morales therevolti...@gmail.comwrote:

 It's ok for what it is.
 But, it's just all the layers of abstraction in HTML/JS that make it
 really slow.
 I doubt they will gain much more speed on mobile devices, perhaps by using
 hardware acceleartion.

 In either case, it's slow and it looks and feels like crap.
 But it's perfect for simple apps, users just want things that work.
  Although they prefer things that work well.


 On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 1:42 AM, ghenne g...@nsbasic.com wrote:

 For an alternative to working with HTML/CSS/JS, have a look at NS
 Basic/App Studio http://www.nsbasic.com/app. It's got a drag and drop
 interface for creating forms and lets you code in a subset of VB or in
 JavaScript. The projects can be deployed as web apps or through a built in
 interface to PhoneGap.

 It makes life much easier for people coming from VB like environments.

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[android-developers] Re: About Phone GAP

2011-12-01 Thread Alessandro Pellizzari
Il Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:59:16 +0530, Mukesh Srivastav ha scritto:

 I just wanted to check how many Android/iPhone Developers would really
 likes it work on PhoneGAP which is like Developing Web-programming using
 HTML/Javascript and CSS.

The primary field I work in is HTML+CSS+JS (+PHP). I do it 8-12 hours a 
day, 6 or 7 days a week. :)

I still find it quite hard to adapt a web interface for a mobile device. 
It is much easier to use Android Activities instead of juggling DOM 
pieces thru Javascript.

Maybe with PhoneGAP, Sencha and jQueryMobile it is/will be easier.
But performance is (still) much poorer.

Bye.


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Re: [android-developers] Re: About Phone GAP

2011-12-01 Thread Mukesh Srivastav
JQuery,PhoneGAP,Snecha are all Same Web-Development tools.


I suspect, one day, Mobile companies would HIRE Web-Developes who are good
at HTML and CSS and will ask to work on PhoneGAP or Jquery


-*Mukesh*

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Alessandro Pellizzari a...@amiran.itwrote:

 Il Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:59:16 +0530, Mukesh Srivastav ha scritto:

  I just wanted to check how many Android/iPhone Developers would really
  likes it work on PhoneGAP which is like Developing Web-programming usinge
  HTML/Javascript and CSS.

 The primary field I work in is HTML+CSS+JS (+PHP). I do it 8-12 hours a
 day, 6 or 7 days a week. :)

 I still find it quite hard to adapt a web interface for a mobile device.
 It is much easier to use Android Activities instead of juggling DOM
 pieces thru Javascript.

 Maybe with PhoneGAP, Sencha and jQueryMobile it is/will be easier.
 But performance is (still) much poorer.

 Bye.


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Re: [android-developers] Re: About Phone GAP

2011-12-01 Thread sajjan androiddeveloper
Unfortunately ,If you need same code to be working on multiple
platforms(iPhone and Blackberry) no other way now..

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Mukesh Srivastav mukicha...@gmail.comwrote:

 JQuery,PhoneGAP,Snecha are all Same Web-Development tools.


 I suspect, one day, Mobile companies would HIRE Web-Developes who are good
 at HTML and CSS and will ask to work on PhoneGAP or Jquery


 -*Mukesh*

 On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Alessandro Pellizzari a...@amiran.itwrote:

 Il Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:59:16 +0530, Mukesh Srivastav ha scritto:

  I just wanted to check how many Android/iPhone Developers would really
  likes it work on PhoneGAP which is like Developing Web-programming
 usinge
  HTML/Javascript and CSS.

 The primary field I work in is HTML+CSS+JS (+PHP). I do it 8-12 hours a
 day, 6 or 7 days a week. :)

 I still find it quite hard to adapt a web interface for a mobile device.
 It is much easier to use Android Activities instead of juggling DOM
 pieces thru Javascript.

 Maybe with PhoneGAP, Sencha and jQueryMobile it is/will be easier.
 But performance is (still) much poorer.

 Bye.


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[android-developers] Re: About Phone GAP

2011-12-01 Thread Nowayforback
PhoneGap only used for light media/bussiness logic applications, not
for games.

And i don't like PhoneGap beacause all code of PhoneGap is open
source. If PhoneGap have a plug-in for hide some important part of
apps, I'm very like PhoneGap. I'm PHP developer too. At present, I can
hide my code by some native code, but by the way, PhoneGap become Un
Write once run any where :D


On 1 Tháng Mười Hai, 11:30, Mukesh Srivastav mukicha...@gmail.com
wrote:
 JQuery,PhoneGAP,Snecha are all Same Web-Development tools.

 I suspect, one day, Mobile companies would HIRE Web-Developes who are good
 at HTML and CSS and will ask to work on PhoneGAP or Jquery

 -*Mukesh*

 On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Alessandro Pellizzari a...@amiran.itwrote:



  Il Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:59:16 +0530, Mukesh Srivastav ha scritto:

   I just wanted to check how many Android/iPhone Developers would really
   likes it work on PhoneGAP which is like Developing Web-programming usinge
   HTML/Javascript and CSS.

  The primary field I work in is HTML+CSS+JS (+PHP). I do it 8-12 hours a
  day, 6 or 7 days a week. :)

  I still find it quite hard to adapt a web interface for a mobile device.
  It is much easier to use Android Activities instead of juggling DOM
  pieces thru Javascript.

  Maybe with PhoneGAP, Sencha and jQueryMobile it is/will be easier.
  But performance is (still) much poorer.

  Bye.

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[android-developers] Re: About Phone GAP

2011-12-01 Thread Thomas
Hi All,
I started using PhoneGap to develop some GPS based geocaching games.
It took a while to understand the interface well enough to link to my
own java routines on the android proper.  The javascript linkage was
obscure enough in own right but the deal breaker was that the GPS
routines were bizarrely inaccurate and I couldn't find a way to fix
the code.  I moved to basic4android because I wanted to use a script
like wrapper  and not fool around writing java routine (methods).  The
bonus was that it appears to be upward compatible (from Android G1 to
Droid x2 and some late model tablets. Android market seems to think my
code will run on 700-800 flavors of Android.
Best,


On Dec 1, 11:19 am, Nowayforback nowayforb...@gmail.com wrote:
 PhoneGap only used for light media/bussiness logic applications, not
 for games.

 And i don't like PhoneGap beacause all code of PhoneGap is open
 source. If PhoneGap have a plug-in for hide some important part of
 apps, I'm very like PhoneGap. I'm PHP developer too. At present, I can
 hide my code by some native code, but by the way, PhoneGap become Un
 Write once run any where :D

 On 1 Tháng Mười Hai, 11:30, Mukesh Srivastav mukicha...@gmail.com
 wrote:







  JQuery,PhoneGAP,Snecha are all Same Web-Development tools.

  I suspect, one day, Mobile companies would HIRE Web-Developes who are good
  at HTML and CSS and will ask to work on PhoneGAP or Jquery

  -*Mukesh*

  On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Alessandro Pellizzari a...@amiran.itwrote:

   Il Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:59:16 +0530, Mukesh Srivastav ha scritto:

I just wanted to check how many Android/iPhone Developers would really
likes it work on PhoneGAP which is like Developing Web-programming 
usinge
HTML/Javascript and CSS.

   The primary field I work in is HTML+CSS+JS (+PHP). I do it 8-12 hours a
   day, 6 or 7 days a week. :)

   I still find it quite hard to adapt a web interface for a mobile device.
   It is much easier to use Android Activities instead of juggling DOM
   pieces thru Javascript.

   Maybe with PhoneGAP, Sencha and jQueryMobile it is/will be easier.
   But performance is (still) much poorer.

   Bye.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: About Phone GAP

2011-12-01 Thread Mukesh Srivastav
Hi All,

The problem here, We as in Mobile Developers come from c,c++ and Java
Platform and we are experienced inthat and we have the solution for every
problem. The problem could be in Design Patterns or Android/IOS SDK Api's
issue, we know how to fix it and we are master into that.

All of sudden we are switching to HTML5,CSS and JavaScript , I feel like
irritating and at times, I wanted to hit that person who introduced this
PhoneGAP. I HATE PHONEGAP.




On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Thomas tbirchm...@usa.net wrote:

 Hi All,
 I started using PhoneGap to develop some GPS based geocaching games.
 It took a while to understand the interface well enough to link to my
 own java routines on the android proper.  The javascript linkage was
 obscure enough in own right but the deal breaker was that the GPS
 routines were bizarrely inaccurate and I couldn't find a way to fix
 the code.  I moved to basic4android because I wanted to use a script
 like wrapper  and not fool around writing java routine (methods).  The
 bonus was that it appears to be upward compatible (from Android G1 to
 Droid x2 and some late model tablets. Android market seems to think my
 code will run on 700-800 flavors of Android.
 Best,


 On Dec 1, 11:19 am, Nowayforback nowayforb...@gmail.com wrote:
  PhoneGap only used for light media/bussiness logic applications, not
  for games.
 
  And i don't like PhoneGap beacause all code of PhoneGap is open
  source. If PhoneGap have a plug-in for hide some important part of
  apps, I'm very like PhoneGap. I'm PHP developer too. At present, I can
  hide my code by some native code, but by the way, PhoneGap become Un
  Write once run any where :D
 
  On 1 Tháng Mười Hai, 11:30, Mukesh Srivastav mukicha...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   JQuery,PhoneGAP,Snecha are all Same Web-Development tools.
 
   I suspect, one day, Mobile companies would HIRE Web-Developes who are
 good
   at HTML and CSS and will ask to work on PhoneGAP or Jquery
 
   -*Mukesh*
 
   On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Alessandro Pellizzari a...@amiran.it
 wrote:
 
Il Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:59:16 +0530, Mukesh Srivastav ha scritto:
 
 I just wanted to check how many Android/iPhone Developers would
 really
 likes it work on PhoneGAP which is like Developing Web-programming
 usinge
 HTML/Javascript and CSS.
 
The primary field I work in is HTML+CSS+JS (+PHP). I do it 8-12
 hours a
day, 6 or 7 days a week. :)
 
I still find it quite hard to adapt a web interface for a mobile
 device.
It is much easier to use Android Activities instead of juggling DOM
pieces thru Javascript.
 
Maybe with PhoneGAP, Sencha and jQueryMobile it is/will be easier.
But performance is (still) much poorer.
 
Bye.
 
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