[android-developers] Re: About Phone GAP
For an alternative to working with HTML/CSS/JS, have a look at NS Basic/App Studio http://www.nsbasic.com/app. It's got a drag and drop interface for creating forms and lets you code in a subset of VB or in JavaScript. The projects can be deployed as web apps or through a built in interface to PhoneGap. It makes life much easier for people coming from VB like environments. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: About Phone GAP
It's ok for what it is. But, it's just all the layers of abstraction in HTML/JS that make it really slow. I doubt they will gain much more speed on mobile devices, perhaps by using hardware acceleartion. In either case, it's slow and it looks and feels like crap. But it's perfect for simple apps, users just want things that work. Although they prefer things that work well. On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 1:42 AM, ghenne g...@nsbasic.com wrote: For an alternative to working with HTML/CSS/JS, have a look at NS Basic/App Studio http://www.nsbasic.com/app. It's got a drag and drop interface for creating forms and lets you code in a subset of VB or in JavaScript. The projects can be deployed as web apps or through a built in interface to PhoneGap. It makes life much easier for people coming from VB like environments. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- ~ Jeremiah:9:23-24 Android 2D MMORPG: http://solrpg.com/, http://www.youtube.com/user/revoltingx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: About Phone GAP
Hi All, The thing is that Phonegap and Sencha/JQuery mobile are not the same. Phonegap is a framework which extends Android Webview. Sencha/JQMob provides a wrapper to HTML/CSS to make it UX friendly. I have used phonegap to run applications on Android before I started with native programming. Phonegap cloud build is good place to hold source code and to build apps for different platforms. But it doesn't mean that PhoneGap is the only solution to develop cross platform mobile applications!!! AnscaMobile's corona is a far more effective way. Even though they only priced options and package becomes heavier, it is professionally written - even for gaming! Anyway, I dont like PhoneGap or Corona just because of their poor performance over native or NDK applications on Android. Regards On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 3:42 AM, Miguel Morales therevolti...@gmail.comwrote: It's ok for what it is. But, it's just all the layers of abstraction in HTML/JS that make it really slow. I doubt they will gain much more speed on mobile devices, perhaps by using hardware acceleartion. In either case, it's slow and it looks and feels like crap. But it's perfect for simple apps, users just want things that work. Although they prefer things that work well. On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 1:42 AM, ghenne g...@nsbasic.com wrote: For an alternative to working with HTML/CSS/JS, have a look at NS Basic/App Studio http://www.nsbasic.com/app. It's got a drag and drop interface for creating forms and lets you code in a subset of VB or in JavaScript. The projects can be deployed as web apps or through a built in interface to PhoneGap. It makes life much easier for people coming from VB like environments. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- ~ Jeremiah:9:23-24 Android 2D MMORPG: http://solrpg.com/, http://www.youtube.com/user/revoltingx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Subin Sebastian www.nintriva.com http://subinsebastien.tumblr.com/ http://in.linkedin.com/in/subinsebastien http://plus.google.com/subin https://plus.google.com/118262481642737404812 http://facebook.com/subinsebastien -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: About Phone GAP
Il Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:59:16 +0530, Mukesh Srivastav ha scritto: I just wanted to check how many Android/iPhone Developers would really likes it work on PhoneGAP which is like Developing Web-programming using HTML/Javascript and CSS. The primary field I work in is HTML+CSS+JS (+PHP). I do it 8-12 hours a day, 6 or 7 days a week. :) I still find it quite hard to adapt a web interface for a mobile device. It is much easier to use Android Activities instead of juggling DOM pieces thru Javascript. Maybe with PhoneGAP, Sencha and jQueryMobile it is/will be easier. But performance is (still) much poorer. Bye. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: About Phone GAP
JQuery,PhoneGAP,Snecha are all Same Web-Development tools. I suspect, one day, Mobile companies would HIRE Web-Developes who are good at HTML and CSS and will ask to work on PhoneGAP or Jquery -*Mukesh* On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Alessandro Pellizzari a...@amiran.itwrote: Il Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:59:16 +0530, Mukesh Srivastav ha scritto: I just wanted to check how many Android/iPhone Developers would really likes it work on PhoneGAP which is like Developing Web-programming usinge HTML/Javascript and CSS. The primary field I work in is HTML+CSS+JS (+PHP). I do it 8-12 hours a day, 6 or 7 days a week. :) I still find it quite hard to adapt a web interface for a mobile device. It is much easier to use Android Activities instead of juggling DOM pieces thru Javascript. Maybe with PhoneGAP, Sencha and jQueryMobile it is/will be easier. But performance is (still) much poorer. Bye. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Warm Regards, *Mukesh Kumar*, Android Consultant/Freelancer, India,Hyderabad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: About Phone GAP
Unfortunately ,If you need same code to be working on multiple platforms(iPhone and Blackberry) no other way now.. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Mukesh Srivastav mukicha...@gmail.comwrote: JQuery,PhoneGAP,Snecha are all Same Web-Development tools. I suspect, one day, Mobile companies would HIRE Web-Developes who are good at HTML and CSS and will ask to work on PhoneGAP or Jquery -*Mukesh* On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Alessandro Pellizzari a...@amiran.itwrote: Il Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:59:16 +0530, Mukesh Srivastav ha scritto: I just wanted to check how many Android/iPhone Developers would really likes it work on PhoneGAP which is like Developing Web-programming usinge HTML/Javascript and CSS. The primary field I work in is HTML+CSS+JS (+PHP). I do it 8-12 hours a day, 6 or 7 days a week. :) I still find it quite hard to adapt a web interface for a mobile device. It is much easier to use Android Activities instead of juggling DOM pieces thru Javascript. Maybe with PhoneGAP, Sencha and jQueryMobile it is/will be easier. But performance is (still) much poorer. Bye. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Warm Regards, *Mukesh Kumar*, Android Consultant/Freelancer, India,Hyderabad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: About Phone GAP
PhoneGap only used for light media/bussiness logic applications, not for games. And i don't like PhoneGap beacause all code of PhoneGap is open source. If PhoneGap have a plug-in for hide some important part of apps, I'm very like PhoneGap. I'm PHP developer too. At present, I can hide my code by some native code, but by the way, PhoneGap become Un Write once run any where :D On 1 Tháng Mười Hai, 11:30, Mukesh Srivastav mukicha...@gmail.com wrote: JQuery,PhoneGAP,Snecha are all Same Web-Development tools. I suspect, one day, Mobile companies would HIRE Web-Developes who are good at HTML and CSS and will ask to work on PhoneGAP or Jquery -*Mukesh* On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Alessandro Pellizzari a...@amiran.itwrote: Il Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:59:16 +0530, Mukesh Srivastav ha scritto: I just wanted to check how many Android/iPhone Developers would really likes it work on PhoneGAP which is like Developing Web-programming usinge HTML/Javascript and CSS. The primary field I work in is HTML+CSS+JS (+PHP). I do it 8-12 hours a day, 6 or 7 days a week. :) I still find it quite hard to adapt a web interface for a mobile device. It is much easier to use Android Activities instead of juggling DOM pieces thru Javascript. Maybe with PhoneGAP, Sencha and jQueryMobile it is/will be easier. But performance is (still) much poorer. Bye. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Warm Regards, *Mukesh Kumar*, Android Consultant/Freelancer, India,Hyderabad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: About Phone GAP
Hi All, I started using PhoneGap to develop some GPS based geocaching games. It took a while to understand the interface well enough to link to my own java routines on the android proper. The javascript linkage was obscure enough in own right but the deal breaker was that the GPS routines were bizarrely inaccurate and I couldn't find a way to fix the code. I moved to basic4android because I wanted to use a script like wrapper and not fool around writing java routine (methods). The bonus was that it appears to be upward compatible (from Android G1 to Droid x2 and some late model tablets. Android market seems to think my code will run on 700-800 flavors of Android. Best, On Dec 1, 11:19 am, Nowayforback nowayforb...@gmail.com wrote: PhoneGap only used for light media/bussiness logic applications, not for games. And i don't like PhoneGap beacause all code of PhoneGap is open source. If PhoneGap have a plug-in for hide some important part of apps, I'm very like PhoneGap. I'm PHP developer too. At present, I can hide my code by some native code, but by the way, PhoneGap become Un Write once run any where :D On 1 Tháng Mười Hai, 11:30, Mukesh Srivastav mukicha...@gmail.com wrote: JQuery,PhoneGAP,Snecha are all Same Web-Development tools. I suspect, one day, Mobile companies would HIRE Web-Developes who are good at HTML and CSS and will ask to work on PhoneGAP or Jquery -*Mukesh* On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Alessandro Pellizzari a...@amiran.itwrote: Il Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:59:16 +0530, Mukesh Srivastav ha scritto: I just wanted to check how many Android/iPhone Developers would really likes it work on PhoneGAP which is like Developing Web-programming usinge HTML/Javascript and CSS. The primary field I work in is HTML+CSS+JS (+PHP). I do it 8-12 hours a day, 6 or 7 days a week. :) I still find it quite hard to adapt a web interface for a mobile device. It is much easier to use Android Activities instead of juggling DOM pieces thru Javascript. Maybe with PhoneGAP, Sencha and jQueryMobile it is/will be easier. But performance is (still) much poorer. Bye. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Warm Regards, *Mukesh Kumar*, Android Consultant/Freelancer, India,Hyderabad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: About Phone GAP
Hi All, The problem here, We as in Mobile Developers come from c,c++ and Java Platform and we are experienced inthat and we have the solution for every problem. The problem could be in Design Patterns or Android/IOS SDK Api's issue, we know how to fix it and we are master into that. All of sudden we are switching to HTML5,CSS and JavaScript , I feel like irritating and at times, I wanted to hit that person who introduced this PhoneGAP. I HATE PHONEGAP. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Thomas tbirchm...@usa.net wrote: Hi All, I started using PhoneGap to develop some GPS based geocaching games. It took a while to understand the interface well enough to link to my own java routines on the android proper. The javascript linkage was obscure enough in own right but the deal breaker was that the GPS routines were bizarrely inaccurate and I couldn't find a way to fix the code. I moved to basic4android because I wanted to use a script like wrapper and not fool around writing java routine (methods). The bonus was that it appears to be upward compatible (from Android G1 to Droid x2 and some late model tablets. Android market seems to think my code will run on 700-800 flavors of Android. Best, On Dec 1, 11:19 am, Nowayforback nowayforb...@gmail.com wrote: PhoneGap only used for light media/bussiness logic applications, not for games. And i don't like PhoneGap beacause all code of PhoneGap is open source. If PhoneGap have a plug-in for hide some important part of apps, I'm very like PhoneGap. I'm PHP developer too. At present, I can hide my code by some native code, but by the way, PhoneGap become Un Write once run any where :D On 1 Tháng Mười Hai, 11:30, Mukesh Srivastav mukicha...@gmail.com wrote: JQuery,PhoneGAP,Snecha are all Same Web-Development tools. I suspect, one day, Mobile companies would HIRE Web-Developes who are good at HTML and CSS and will ask to work on PhoneGAP or Jquery -*Mukesh* On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Alessandro Pellizzari a...@amiran.it wrote: Il Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:59:16 +0530, Mukesh Srivastav ha scritto: I just wanted to check how many Android/iPhone Developers would really likes it work on PhoneGAP which is like Developing Web-programming usinge HTML/Javascript and CSS. The primary field I work in is HTML+CSS+JS (+PHP). I do it 8-12 hours a day, 6 or 7 days a week. :) I still find it quite hard to adapt a web interface for a mobile device. It is much easier to use Android Activities instead of juggling DOM pieces thru Javascript. Maybe with PhoneGAP, Sencha and jQueryMobile it is/will be easier. But performance is (still) much poorer. Bye. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Warm Regards, *Mukesh Kumar*, Android Consultant/Freelancer, India,Hyderabad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Warm Regards, *Mukesh Kumar*, Android Consultant/Freelancer, India,Hyderabad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en