Re: [android-developers] Re: Alarm in sleep mode

2010-12-29 Thread Dianne Hackborn
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 11:56 PM, b_t bartata...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hmm, so there is no possibility to display real-time information in
 a widget? For example a compass widget?


Correct, app widgets are not intended to be continually refreshing.


 What is an acceptable refresh rate?


Less is better.  For polling, I'd suggest 15 minutes.  Many times you would
be better off doing something push-based, however, such as how gmail gets
pushes when there is new mail, causing it to sync, and update any widget as
part of that process.


 And the main question, why does the alarmmanager send alarms in sleep
 mode
 when I use RTC instead of RTC_WAKEUP?


Because something is still keeping the CPU running.  Note the use of the
word asleep in the documentation here is somewhat misleading -- it is not
talking about the screen being off, but the actual CPU being asleep.

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[android-developers] Re: Alarm in sleep mode

2010-12-29 Thread b_t
Thank you, you answered all of my questions

On Dec 29, 10:52 am, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 11:56 PM, b_t bartata...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hmm, so there is no possibility to display real-time information in
  a widget? For example a compass widget?

 Correct, app widgets are not intended to be continually refreshing.

  What is an acceptable refresh rate?

 Less is better.  For polling, I'd suggest 15 minutes.  Many times you would
 be better off doing something push-based, however, such as how gmail gets
 pushes when there is new mail, causing it to sync, and update any widget as
 part of that process.

  And the main question, why does the alarmmanager send alarms in sleep
  mode
  when I use RTC instead of RTC_WAKEUP?

 Because something is still keeping the CPU running.  Note the use of the
 word asleep in the documentation here is somewhat misleading -- it is not
 talking about the screen being off, but the actual CPU being asleep.

 --
 Dianne Hackborn
 Android framework engineer
 hack...@android.com

 Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to
 provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails.  All such
 questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and
 answer them.

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[android-developers] Re: Alarm in sleep mode

2010-12-28 Thread kernelpanic


On Dec 28, 8:00 pm, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 3:54 PM, b_t bartata...@gmail.com wrote:
  In an appwidget I declare a repeating alarm to refresh a widget in
  every 10 seconds:

 Please don't.


yeah really - not on my phone you won't

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[android-developers] Re: Alarm in sleep mode

2010-12-28 Thread b_t
Hmm, so there is no possibility to display real-time information in
a widget? For example a compass widget?

What is an acceptable refresh rate?

And the main question, why does the alarmmanager send alarms in sleep
mode
when I use RTC instead of RTC_WAKEUP?

Thanks

On Dec 29, 5:25 am, kernelpanic j.m.roya...@gmail.com wrote:
 On D?ec 28, 8:00 pm, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote:

  On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 3:54 PM, b_t bartata...@gmail.com wrote:
   In an appwidget I declare a repeating alarm to refresh a widget in
   every 10 seconds:

  Please don't.

 yeah really - not on my phone you won't

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