[android-developers] Re: Comunication Server-Phone: SMS directed to an application (0.9 SDK)

2008-11-17 Thread Jonathan Herriott 

So the real issue is that the SMSBroadcaster does not do an ordered
broadcast.  Even if this were fixed, it would still be a problem in
how you can gurantee someone doesn't try and put a higher priority to
receive your events and bash you.  They implemented incoming/outgoing
call broadcasters to be ordered broadcasts, so why didn't they
implementing incoming/outgoing sms broadcaster as ordered broadcasts?

On Oct 15, 6:03 am, Ricardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cristina,

 I have the same problem... I´ve already done this with J2ME (send the
 SMS to some specific port)..

 but it seems that android don´t support this yet...

 On 10 out, 18:49, Jonathan Herriott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  Bump.  This needs to be addressed.

  On Aug 29, 10:31 am, Cristina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hi!

   I am actually using the http client library in order to comunicate
   from my app to the server.
   The problem is that I want also the server to send some kind of
   events to the phone..so I need also to open a comunication from the
   central server to the phone... In this case, the phone will act as a
   server receiving the events...

   That is why I was thinking about sending the events from the central
   server using SMS...but if I cannot avoid others to receive those SMS,
   this option is not valid either... Gtalk was the other option, but
   there is not GTalk in 0.9..

   I do not want either to use polling (the phone asking the server for
   events from time to time)

   Any other option? wappush? sending SMS to a port associated to the app
   like in J2ME?

   On 28 ago, 20:16, Megha Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

2008/8/26 Cristina [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi!

 We are designing an application for android phones. In our application
 there is a central server, and this server must send some application
 information to the phone.
 So, we thought to use SMS in order to communicate with our application
 in the phone.
 Our application will look for messages with a particular prefix and
 consume it. Other applications (including messagig applications)
 should not get the application SMS messages.

 In order to do that, we have implemeted a Sms BroadcastReceiver, that
 get all SMS messages, but only processed the ones with the application
 prefix. After processing them, we do an abortBroadcast(), in order to
 stop the broadcast of the message to the Messaging application or
 other applications receiving the same intent.

 However, SMS Inbox is receiving the message, and is showing the
 message in the notification application.

 1.  Is there any way for an application to receive the SMS message,
 avoiding the rest of applications to receive it? Is abortBroadcast
 working for SMS broadcast intents? I understand that maybe the
 abortBroadcast is not working for SMS broadcast intents, because of
 security reasons (for example we could abort the broadcast of all SMS
 messages ). Is there another way for an application to to receive SMS
 messages in an exclusive way (the rest of applications do not
 receive it)?

I don't think you can alter the behavior of inbuilt apps, 
Messaging(SMS) is
an inbuilt app, so you cannot
do anything, it will receive SMS and show the notification.

 2. Is there any other way to communicate information from a external
 server to the application in the phone?

 For example, In other projects with other phones we have  used
 transparent wappush to implement that communication..Does android
 support wappush protocol?

 We would not like to implement an always open connection in the phone
 application (where the phone acts like a server), because that implies
 that we must have a list with all the IPs of the phones in order to
 communicate with them..that complicates a lot the  implementation...

You can use the inbuilt apache http client library in Android to 
communicate
with your server 
app..http://code.google.com/android/reference/org/apache/http/client/packa...

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[android-developers] Re: Comunication Server-Phone: SMS directed to an application (0.9 SDK)

2008-10-15 Thread Ricardo 

Cristina,

I have the same problem... I´ve already done this with J2ME (send the
SMS to some specific port)..

but it seems that android don´t support this yet...

On 10 out, 18:49, Jonathan Herriott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bump.  This needs to be addressed.

 On Aug 29, 10:31 am, Cristina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi!

  I am actually using the http client library in order to comunicate
  from my app to the server.
  The problem is that I want also the server to send some kind of
  events to the phone..so I need also to open a comunication from the
  central server to the phone... In this case, the phone will act as a
  server receiving the events...

  That is why I was thinking about sending the events from the central
  server using SMS...but if I cannot avoid others to receive those SMS,
  this option is not valid either... Gtalk was the other option, but
  there is not GTalk in 0.9..

  I do not want either to use polling (the phone asking the server for
  events from time to time)

  Any other option? wappush? sending SMS to a port associated to the app
  like in J2ME?

  On 28 ago, 20:16, Megha Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   2008/8/26 Cristina [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi!

We are designing an application for android phones. In our application
there is a central server, and this server must send some application
information to the phone.
So, we thought to use SMS in order to communicate with our application
in the phone.
Our application will look for messages with a particular prefix and
consume it. Other applications (including messagig applications)
should not get the application SMS messages.

In order to do that, we have implemeted a Sms BroadcastReceiver, that
get all SMS messages, but only processed the ones with the application
prefix. After processing them, we do an abortBroadcast(), in order to
stop the broadcast of the message to the Messaging application or
other applications receiving the same intent.

However, SMS Inbox is receiving the message, and is showing the
message in the notification application.

1.  Is there any way for an application to receive the SMS message,
avoiding the rest of applications to receive it? Is abortBroadcast
working for SMS broadcast intents? I understand that maybe the
abortBroadcast is not working for SMS broadcast intents, because of
security reasons (for example we could abort the broadcast of all SMS
messages ). Is there another way for an application to to receive SMS
messages in an exclusive way (the rest of applications do not
receive it)?

   I don't think you can alter the behavior of inbuilt apps, Messaging(SMS) 
   is
   an inbuilt app, so you cannot
   do anything, it will receive SMS and show the notification.

2. Is there any other way to communicate information from a external
server to the application in the phone?

For example, In other projects with other phones we have  used
transparent wappush to implement that communication..Does android
support wappush protocol?

We would not like to implement an always open connection in the phone
application (where the phone acts like a server), because that implies
that we must have a list with all the IPs of the phones in order to
communicate with them..that complicates a lot the  implementation...

   You can use the inbuilt apache http client library in Android to 
   communicate
   with your server 
   app..http://code.google.com/android/reference/org/apache/http/client/packa...

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[android-developers] Re: Comunication Server-Phone: SMS directed to an application (0.9 SDK)

2008-08-29 Thread Cristina 

Hi!

I am actually using the http client library in order to comunicate
from my app to the server.
The problem is that I want also the server to send some kind of
events to the phone..so I need also to open a comunication from the
central server to the phone... In this case, the phone will act as a
server receiving the events...

That is why I was thinking about sending the events from the central
server using SMS...but if I cannot avoid others to receive those SMS,
this option is not valid either... Gtalk was the other option, but
there is not GTalk in 0.9..

I do not want either to use polling (the phone asking the server for
events from time to time)

Any other option? wappush? sending SMS to a port associated to the app
like in J2ME?

On 28 ago, 20:16, Megha Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2008/8/26 Cristina [EMAIL PROTECTED]







  Hi!

  We are designing an application for android phones. In our application
  there is a central server, and this server must send some application
  information to the phone.
  So, we thought to use SMS in order to communicate with our application
  in the phone.
  Our application will look for messages with a particular prefix and
  consume it. Other applications (including messagig applications)
  should not get the application SMS messages.

  In order to do that, we have implemeted a Sms BroadcastReceiver, that
  get all SMS messages, but only processed the ones with the application
  prefix. After processing them, we do an abortBroadcast(), in order to
  stop the broadcast of the message to the Messaging application or
  other applications receiving the same intent.

  However, SMS Inbox is receiving the message, and is showing the
  message in the notification application.

  1.  Is there any way for an application to receive the SMS message,
  avoiding the rest of applications to receive it? Is abortBroadcast
  working for SMS broadcast intents? I understand that maybe the
  abortBroadcast is not working for SMS broadcast intents, because of
  security reasons (for example we could abort the broadcast of all SMS
  messages ). Is there another way for an application to to receive SMS
  messages in an exclusive way (the rest of applications do not
  receive it)?

 I don't think you can alter the behavior of inbuilt apps, Messaging(SMS) is
 an inbuilt app, so you cannot
 do anything, it will receive SMS and show the notification.

  2. Is there any other way to communicate information from a external
  server to the application in the phone?

  For example, In other projects with other phones we have  used
  transparent wappush to implement that communication..Does android
  support wappush protocol?

  We would not like to implement an always open connection in the phone
  application (where the phone acts like a server), because that implies
  that we must have a list with all the IPs of the phones in order to
  communicate with them..that complicates a lot the  implementation...

 You can use the inbuilt apache http client library in Android to communicate
 with your server 
 app..http://code.google.com/android/reference/org/apache/http/client/packa...





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[android-developers] Re: Comunication Server-Phone: SMS directed to an application (0.9 SDK)

2008-08-28 Thread Megha Joshi 
2008/8/26 Cristina [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Hi!

 We are designing an application for android phones. In our application
 there is a central server, and this server must send some application
 information to the phone.
 So, we thought to use SMS in order to communicate with our application
 in the phone.
 Our application will look for messages with a particular prefix and
 consume it. Other applications (including messagig applications)
 should not get the application SMS messages.

 In order to do that, we have implemeted a Sms BroadcastReceiver, that
 get all SMS messages, but only processed the ones with the application
 prefix. After processing them, we do an abortBroadcast(), in order to
 stop the broadcast of the message to the Messaging application or
 other applications receiving the same intent.

 However, SMS Inbox is receiving the message, and is showing the
 message in the notification application.

 1.  Is there any way for an application to receive the SMS message,
 avoiding the rest of applications to receive it? Is abortBroadcast
 working for SMS broadcast intents? I understand that maybe the
 abortBroadcast is not working for SMS broadcast intents, because of
 security reasons (for example we could abort the broadcast of all SMS
 messages ). Is there another way for an application to to receive SMS
 messages in an exclusive way (the rest of applications do not
 receive it)?


I don't think you can alter the behavior of inbuilt apps, Messaging(SMS) is
an inbuilt app, so you cannot
do anything, it will receive SMS and show the notification.


 2. Is there any other way to communicate information from a external
 server to the application in the phone?

 For example, In other projects with other phones we have  used
 transparent wappush to implement that communication..Does android
 support wappush protocol?

 We would not like to implement an always open connection in the phone
 application (where the phone acts like a server), because that implies
 that we must have a list with all the IPs of the phones in order to
 communicate with them..that complicates a lot the  implementation...


You can use the inbuilt apache http client library in Android to communicate
with your server app..
http://code.google.com/android/reference/org/apache/http/client/package-summary.html


 Any other idea?







 


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[android-developers] Re: Comunication Server-Phone: SMS directed to an application (0.9 SDK)

2008-08-27 Thread jtaylor 

SMS is probably problematic on more than one level.
There are HTTP api's and that's what you want. JAVA has an api and
Apache has one as well.




On Aug 26, 9:35 am, Cristina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!

 We are designing an application for android phones. In our application
 there is a central server, and this server must send some application
 information to the phone.
 So, we thought to use SMS in order to communicate with our application
 in the phone.
 Our application will look for messages with a particular prefix and
 consume it. Other applications (including messagig applications)
 should not get the application SMS messages.

 In order to do that, we have implemeted a Sms BroadcastReceiver, that
 get all SMS messages, but only processed the ones with the application
 prefix. After processing them, we do an abortBroadcast(), in order to
 stop the broadcast of the message to the Messaging application or
 other applications receiving the same intent.

 However, SMS Inbox is receiving the message, and is showing the
 message in the notification application.

 1.  Is there any way for an application to receive the SMS message,
 avoiding the rest of applications to receive it? Is abortBroadcast
 working for SMS broadcast intents? I understand that maybe the
 abortBroadcast is not working for SMS broadcast intents, because of
 security reasons (for example we could abort the broadcast of all SMS
 messages ). Is there another way for an application to to receive SMS
 messages in an exclusive way (the rest of applications do not
 receive it)?

 2. Is there any other way to communicate information from a external
 server to the application in the phone?

 For example, In other projects with other phones we have  used
 transparent wappush to implement that communication..Does android
 support wappush protocol?

 We would not like to implement an always open connection in the phone
 application (where the phone acts like a server), because that implies
 that we must have a list with all the IPs of the phones in order to
 communicate with them..that complicates a lot the  implementation...

 Any other idea?
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[android-developers] Re: Comunication Server-Phone: SMS directed to an application (0.9 SDK)

2008-08-26 Thread android_dev 

There are a few unanswered posts on this topic. Android team, any
ideas?

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