[android-developers] Re: G1 linux

2008-12-06 Thread David Turner
I forgot to add that accessing bluez directly is only possible from native
code, which is not officially
supported by official system images like the one on the G1.

For "normal" applications, we provide a Java Bluetooth API wrapping bluez,
but which currently covers only
a small subset of the stack. Hopefully, this should expand progressively as
time goes, though I have no ETA for
new related features.

On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 12:08 AM, David Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> the Bluetooth stack used in Android is bluez, i.e. the same one than
> standard Linux distributions, if that can help.
>
> and, this just in, you may consider buying an unlocked and flashable
> Android developer device for your project.
> This is the same hardware than the G1 but will allow you to add any kind of
> native code to the system.
>
> see http://code.google.com/android/dev-devices.html
>
> hope this helps,
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Rui Freitas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> Hum, ok. But what i am trying to do is some kind of API to work with the
>> Bluetooth, cause i need to connect the G1 with some heart rate sensors via
>> bluetooth. So if it is linux i can do it, but if not, i don't know how to do
>> it.
>> So i don't wanna make an application. Is this possible?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Diego Torres Milano <[EMAIL 
>> PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 18, 11:51 pm, Rui Freitas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > I wanna now if is it possible to program for the G1 like a linux
>>> > device. If so, how can i do it? Where can i find that kind of
>>> > information?
>>> Android is based on a Linux kernel but strictly speaking it's not
>>> Linux. Android has no native windowing system, no glibc support and
>>> doesn't include all of the libraries and utilities usually available
>>> in a Linux system.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Rui
>>>
>>>
>>
>> >>
>>
>

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[android-developers] Re: G1 linux

2008-12-06 Thread David Turner
the Bluetooth stack used in Android is bluez, i.e. the same one than
standard Linux distributions, if that can help.

and, this just in, you may consider buying an unlocked and flashable Android
developer device for your project.
This is the same hardware than the G1 but will allow you to add any kind of
native code to the system.

see http://code.google.com/android/dev-devices.html

hope this helps,

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Rui Freitas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hum, ok. But what i am trying to do is some kind of API to work with the
> Bluetooth, cause i need to connect the G1 with some heart rate sensors via
> bluetooth. So if it is linux i can do it, but if not, i don't know how to do
> it.
> So i don't wanna make an application. Is this possible?
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Diego Torres Milano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 18, 11:51 pm, Rui Freitas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I wanna now if is it possible to program for the G1 like a linux
>> > device. If so, how can i do it? Where can i find that kind of
>> > information?
>> Android is based on a Linux kernel but strictly speaking it's not
>> Linux. Android has no native windowing system, no glibc support and
>> doesn't include all of the libraries and utilities usually available
>> in a Linux system.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Rui
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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[android-developers] Re: G1 linux

2008-12-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm thinking I'll need to test on moko.. waiting on Android making me
nutty...

Blue Tooth heart rate software:
http://code.google.com/p/zephyropen/


On Nov 22, 8:54 am, Aurelio Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Jim:
>
> Is it possible to run Openmoko SO on other hardware than Freerunner?
> (thinking on iPaq  hx 4700). Same question would apply to Android. I
> think it's time to re-use old machines: better for Nature and our poor
> economy (i do no not care about big companies: they do care about
> themselves).
>
> Thx
>
> On 22 nov, 16:05, Jim Ancona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > If you're not wedded to the G1, you might consider the Openmoko
> > Freerunner (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner), which has
> > Bluetooth, Wifi and GPS and runs several Linux distributions, as well
> > as Android.
>
> > Jim
>
> > On Nov 21, 3:56 pm, clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > True, but if his phone has upgraded to RC30 yet, then he could get
> > > root access and install debian alongside android which is detailed
> > > herehttp://www.saurik.com/id/10.
>
> > > Another possibility would be to hope that Android is upgraded to allow
> > > access to the bluetooth hardware through the SDK.  Then you could
> > > right a little java app to get the job done.
>
> > > On Nov 18, 3:07 pm, Diego Torres Milano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > On Nov 18, 11:51 pm, Rui Freitas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Hi,
>
> > > > > I wanna now if is it possible to program for the G1 like a linux
> > > > > device. If so, how can i do it? Where can i find that kind of
> > > > > information?
>
> > > > Android is based on a Linux kernel but strictly speaking it's not
> > > > Linux. Android has no native windowing system, no glibc support and
> > > > doesn't include all of the libraries and utilities usually available
> > > > in a Linux system.
>
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Rui- Hide quoted text -
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[android-developers] Re: G1 linux

2008-12-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I might go moko or blackberry... waiting for BT in droid is a pain..
see my code and wiki on this here:

http://code.google.com/p/zephyropen/



On Nov 22, 8:54 am, Aurelio Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Jim:
>
> Is it possible to run Openmoko SO on other hardware than Freerunner?
> (thinking on iPaq  hx 4700). Same question would apply to Android. I
> think it's time to re-use old machines: better for Nature and our poor
> economy (i do no not care about big companies: they do care about
> themselves).
>
> Thx
>
> On 22 nov, 16:05, Jim Ancona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > If you're not wedded to the G1, you might consider the Openmoko
> > Freerunner (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner), which has
> > Bluetooth, Wifi and GPS and runs several Linux distributions, as well
> > as Android.
>
> > Jim
>
> > On Nov 21, 3:56 pm, clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > True, but if his phone has upgraded to RC30 yet, then he could get
> > > root access and install debian alongside android which is detailed
> > > herehttp://www.saurik.com/id/10.
>
> > > Another possibility would be to hope that Android is upgraded to allow
> > > access to the bluetooth hardware through the SDK.  Then you could
> > > right a little java app to get the job done.
>
> > > On Nov 18, 3:07 pm, Diego Torres Milano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > On Nov 18, 11:51 pm, Rui Freitas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Hi,
>
> > > > > I wanna now if is it possible to program for the G1 like a linux
> > > > > device. If so, how can i do it? Where can i find that kind of
> > > > > information?
>
> > > > Android is based on a Linux kernel but strictly speaking it's not
> > > > Linux. Android has no native windowing system, no glibc support and
> > > > doesn't include all of the libraries and utilities usually available
> > > > in a Linux system.
>
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Rui- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -- Ocultar texto de la cita -
>
> > - Mostrar texto de la cita -

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[android-developers] Re: G1 Linux

2008-12-03 Thread Al Sutton

pLeAsE bArE tHiS iN MiNd; *http://tinyurl.com/2yqfx2*

Ralf wrote:
> Plus One.
>
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Dianne Hackborn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Because He Was Enthralled By The Awesomeness Of It, Like I Am Too.  It Is
>> Awesome!
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Xavier Mathews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Why Did You Say That?
>>>
>>> On 12/02/2008, Eric Mill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>   
 This has been an awesome thread.

 On Dec 1, 5:33 pm, "Xavier Mathews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
> So that means the G1 Does!
>
> Xavier A. Mathews
> Student/Browser Specialist/Developer/Web-Master
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> "Fear of a name, only increases fear of the thing itself."
>
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Jean-Baptiste Queru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>   
>> Android is and has always been built on top of Linux.
>> 
>> JBQ
>> 
>> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Xavier Live Tech.S
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Will G1 be running Linux like Iphone anytime soon?
>>>   
>>> --
>>> Xavier A. Mathews
>>> Student/Browser Specialist/Developer/Web-Master
>>> Google Group Client Based Tech Support Specialist
>>> Hazel Crest Illinois
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> "Fear of a name, only increases fear of the thing itself."
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>
>> --
>> Dianne Hackborn
>> Android framework engineer
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to
>> provide private support.  All such questions should be posted on public
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[android-developers] Re: G1 Linux

2008-12-02 Thread Xavier Mathews
OH ok thanks!!! lol : )

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On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Ralf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Plus One.
>
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Dianne Hackborn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Because He Was Enthralled By The Awesomeness Of It, Like I Am Too.  It Is
> > Awesome!
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Xavier Mathews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Why Did You Say That?
> >>
> >> On 12/02/2008, Eric Mill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > This has been an awesome thread.
> >> >
> >> > On Dec 1, 5:33 pm, "Xavier Mathews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> So that means the G1 Does!
> >> >>
> >> >> Xavier A. Mathews
> >> >> Student/Browser Specialist/Developer/Web-Master
> >> >> Google Group Client Based Tech Support Specialist
> >> >> Hazel Crest Illinois
> >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]@hotmail.com¥
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> "Fear of a name, only increases fear of the thing itself."
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Jean-Baptiste Queru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Android is and has always been built on top of Linux.
> >> >>
> >> >> > JBQ
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Xavier Live Tech.S
> >> >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > > Will G1 be running Linux like Iphone anytime soon?
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Xavier A. Mathews
> >> Student/Browser Specialist/Developer/Web-Master
> >> Google Group Client Based Tech Support Specialist
> >> Hazel Crest Illinois
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> "Fear of a name, only increases fear of the thing itself."
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Dianne Hackborn
> > Android framework engineer
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to
> > provide private support.  All such questions should be posted on public
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> >
> >
> > >
> >
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[android-developers] Re: G1 Linux

2008-12-02 Thread Ralf

Plus One.

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Dianne Hackborn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Because He Was Enthralled By The Awesomeness Of It, Like I Am Too.  It Is
> Awesome!
>
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Xavier Mathews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> Why Did You Say That?
>>
>> On 12/02/2008, Eric Mill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > This has been an awesome thread.
>> >
>> > On Dec 1, 5:33 pm, "Xavier Mathews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> So that means the G1 Does!
>> >>
>> >> Xavier A. Mathews
>> >> Student/Browser Specialist/Developer/Web-Master
>> >> Google Group Client Based Tech Support Specialist
>> >> Hazel Crest Illinois
>> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> "Fear of a name, only increases fear of the thing itself."
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Jean-Baptiste Queru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Android is and has always been built on top of Linux.
>> >>
>> >> > JBQ
>> >>
>> >> > On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Xavier Live Tech.S
>> >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > > Will G1 be running Linux like Iphone anytime soon?
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Xavier A. Mathews
>> Student/Browser Specialist/Developer/Web-Master
>> Google Group Client Based Tech Support Specialist
>> Hazel Crest Illinois
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> "Fear of a name, only increases fear of the thing itself."
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Dianne Hackborn
> Android framework engineer
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to
> provide private support.  All such questions should be posted on public
> forums, where I and others can see and answer them.
>
>
> >
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[android-developers] Re: G1 Linux

2008-12-02 Thread Dorn Hetzel

Totally!

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Dianne Hackborn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Because He Was Enthralled By The Awesomeness Of It, Like I Am Too.  It Is
> Awesome!
>
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Xavier Mathews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> Why Did You Say That?
>>
>> On 12/02/2008, Eric Mill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > This has been an awesome thread.
>> >
>> > On Dec 1, 5:33 pm, "Xavier Mathews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> So that means the G1 Does!
>> >>
>> >> Xavier A. Mathews
>> >> Student/Browser Specialist/Developer/Web-Master
>> >> Google Group Client Based Tech Support Specialist
>> >> Hazel Crest Illinois
>> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> "Fear of a name, only increases fear of the thing itself."
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Jean-Baptiste Queru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Android is and has always been built on top of Linux.
>> >>
>> >> > JBQ
>> >>
>> >> > On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Xavier Live Tech.S
>> >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > > Will G1 be running Linux like Iphone anytime soon?
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Xavier A. Mathews
>> Student/Browser Specialist/Developer/Web-Master
>> Google Group Client Based Tech Support Specialist
>> Hazel Crest Illinois
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> "Fear of a name, only increases fear of the thing itself."
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Dianne Hackborn
> Android framework engineer
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to
> provide private support.  All such questions should be posted on public
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>
>
> >
>

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[android-developers] Re: G1 Linux

2008-12-02 Thread Dianne Hackborn
Because He Was Enthralled By The Awesomeness Of It, Like I Am Too.  It Is
Awesome!

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Xavier Mathews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>
> Why Did You Say That?
>
> On 12/02/2008, Eric Mill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > This has been an awesome thread.
> >
> > On Dec 1, 5:33 pm, "Xavier Mathews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> So that means the G1 Does!
> >>
> >> Xavier A. Mathews
> >> Student/Browser Specialist/Developer/Web-Master
> >> Google Group Client Based Tech Support Specialist
> >> Hazel Crest Illinois
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> "Fear of a name, only increases fear of the thing itself."
> >>
> >> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Jean-Baptiste Queru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Android is and has always been built on top of Linux.
> >>
> >> > JBQ
> >>
> >> > On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Xavier Live Tech.S
> >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > > Will G1 be running Linux like Iphone anytime soon?
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Xavier A. Mathews
> Student/Browser Specialist/Developer/Web-Master
> Google Group Client Based Tech Support Specialist
> Hazel Crest Illinois
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "Fear of a name, only increases fear of the thing itself."
>
> >
>


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[android-developers] Re: G1 Linux

2008-12-02 Thread Xavier Mathews

Why Did You Say That?

On 12/02/2008, Eric Mill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This has been an awesome thread.
>
> On Dec 1, 5:33 pm, "Xavier Mathews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> So that means the G1 Does!
>>
>> Xavier A. Mathews
>> Student/Browser Specialist/Developer/Web-Master
>> Google Group Client Based Tech Support Specialist
>> Hazel Crest Illinois
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> "Fear of a name, only increases fear of the thing itself."
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Jean-Baptiste Queru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Android is and has always been built on top of Linux.
>>
>> > JBQ
>>
>> > On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Xavier Live Tech.S
>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > > Will G1 be running Linux like Iphone anytime soon?
> >
>


-- 
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Google Group Client Based Tech Support Specialist
Hazel Crest Illinois
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[android-developers] Re: G1 Linux

2008-12-02 Thread Eric Mill

This has been an awesome thread.

On Dec 1, 5:33 pm, "Xavier Mathews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So that means the G1 Does!
>
> Xavier A. Mathews
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> "Fear of a name, only increases fear of the thing itself."
>
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Jean-Baptiste Queru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Android is and has always been built on top of Linux.
>
> > JBQ
>
> > On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Xavier Live Tech.S
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Will G1 be running Linux like Iphone anytime soon?
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[android-developers] Re: G1 Linux

2008-12-01 Thread Xavier Mathews
So that means the G1 Does!

Xavier A. Mathews
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On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Jean-Baptiste Queru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> Android is and has always been built on top of Linux.
>
> JBQ
>
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Xavier Live Tech.S
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> > Will G1 be running Linux like Iphone anytime soon?
> > >
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[android-developers] Re: G1 Linux

2008-12-01 Thread Jean-Baptiste Queru

Android is and has always been built on top of Linux.

JBQ

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Xavier Live Tech.S
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[android-developers] Re: G1 linux

2008-11-22 Thread Aurelio Lopez

Hi Jim:

Is it possible to run Openmoko SO on other hardware than Freerunner?
(thinking on iPaq  hx 4700). Same question would apply to Android. I
think it's time to re-use old machines: better for Nature and our poor
economy (i do no not care about big companies: they do care about
themselves).

Thx


On 22 nov, 16:05, Jim Ancona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you're not wedded to the G1, you might consider the Openmoko
> Freerunner (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner), which has
> Bluetooth, Wifi and GPS and runs several Linux distributions, as well
> as Android.
>
> Jim
>
> On Nov 21, 3:56 pm, clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > True, but if his phone has upgraded to RC30 yet, then he could get
> > root access and install debian alongside android which is detailed
> > herehttp://www.saurik.com/id/10.
>
> > Another possibility would be to hope that Android is upgraded to allow
> > access to the bluetooth hardware through the SDK.  Then you could
> > right a little java app to get the job done.
>
> > On Nov 18, 3:07 pm, Diego Torres Milano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 18, 11:51 pm, Rui Freitas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Hi,
>
> > > > I wanna now if is it possible to program for the G1 like a linux
> > > > device. If so, how can i do it? Where can i find that kind of
> > > > information?
>
> > > Android is based on a Linux kernel but strictly speaking it's not
> > > Linux. Android has no native windowing system, no glibc support and
> > > doesn't include all of the libraries and utilities usually available
> > > in a Linux system.
>
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Rui- Hide quoted text -
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[android-developers] Re: G1 linux

2008-11-22 Thread Jim Ancona

If you're not wedded to the G1, you might consider the Openmoko
Freerunner (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner), which has
Bluetooth, Wifi and GPS and runs several Linux distributions, as well
as Android.

Jim

On Nov 21, 3:56 pm, clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> True, but if his phone has upgraded to RC30 yet, then he could get
> root access and install debian alongside android which is detailed
> herehttp://www.saurik.com/id/10.
>
> Another possibility would be to hope that Android is upgraded to allow
> access to the bluetooth hardware through the SDK.  Then you could
> right a little java app to get the job done.
>
> On Nov 18, 3:07 pm, Diego Torres Milano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 18, 11:51 pm, Rui Freitas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Hi,
>
> > > I wanna now if is it possible to program for the G1 like a linux
> > > device. If so, how can i do it? Where can i find that kind of
> > > information?
>
> > Android is based on a Linux kernel but strictly speaking it's not
> > Linux. Android has no native windowing system, no glibc support and
> > doesn't include all of the libraries and utilities usually available
> > in a Linux system.
>
> > > Thanks,
> > > Rui- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
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[android-developers] Re: G1 linux

2008-11-22 Thread clark

True, but if his phone has upgraded to RC30 yet, then he could get
root access and install debian alongside android which is detailed
here http://www.saurik.com/id/10.

Another possibility would be to hope that Android is upgraded to allow
access to the bluetooth hardware through the SDK.  Then you could
right a little java app to get the job done.

On Nov 18, 3:07 pm, Diego Torres Milano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 18, 11:51 pm, Rui Freitas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Hi,
>
> > I wanna now if is it possible to program for the G1 like a linux
> > device. If so, how can i do it? Where can i find that kind of
> > information?
>
> Android is based on a Linux kernel but strictly speaking it's not
> Linux. Android has no native windowing system, no glibc support and
> doesn't include all of the libraries and utilities usually available
> in a Linux system.
>
>
>
>
>
> > Thanks,
> > Rui- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[android-developers] Re: G1 linux

2008-11-19 Thread Rui Freitas

Thanks for your help.

Well, iPhone doesn't support Bluetooth and i don't like windows  
mobile. I need to investigate the Symbian plataform, but i saw a  
couple of linux devices and i will probabably use them cause i'm more  
used to linux than Symbian plataform.

Regards.

On 2008/11/19, at 06:03, MrSnowflake wrote:

>
> Then why don't you make if for Symbian/iPhone/Windows Mobile? They
> support bluetooth and Android will too, in a couple of months. Hacking
> bt in will render your app useless for other phones, and a system
> update could break your app.
>
> On Nov 19, 12:22 am, "Rui Freitas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hum, ok. But what i am trying to do is some kind of API to work  
>> with the
>> Bluetooth, cause i need to connect the G1 with some heart rate  
>> sensors via
>> bluetooth. So if it is linux i can do it, but if not, i don't know  
>> how to do
>> it.
>> So i don't wanna make an application. Is this possible?
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Diego Torres Milano  
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 18, 11:51 pm, Rui Freitas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Hi,
>>
 I wanna now if is it possible to program for the G1 like a linux
 device. If so, how can i do it? Where can i find that kind of
 information?
>>> Android is based on a Linux kernel but strictly speaking it's not
>>> Linux. Android has no native windowing system, no glibc support and
>>> doesn't include all of the libraries and utilities usually available
>>> in a Linux system.
>>
 Thanks,
 Rui
> >


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[android-developers] Re: G1 linux

2008-11-19 Thread MrSnowflake

Then why don't you make if for Symbian/iPhone/Windows Mobile? They
support bluetooth and Android will too, in a couple of months. Hacking
bt in will render your app useless for other phones, and a system
update could break your app.

On Nov 19, 12:22 am, "Rui Freitas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hum, ok. But what i am trying to do is some kind of API to work with the
> Bluetooth, cause i need to connect the G1 with some heart rate sensors via
> bluetooth. So if it is linux i can do it, but if not, i don't know how to do
> it.
> So i don't wanna make an application. Is this possible?
>
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Diego Torres Milano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 18, 11:51 pm, Rui Freitas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi,
>
> > > I wanna now if is it possible to program for the G1 like a linux
> > > device. If so, how can i do it? Where can i find that kind of
> > > information?
> > Android is based on a Linux kernel but strictly speaking it's not
> > Linux. Android has no native windowing system, no glibc support and
> > doesn't include all of the libraries and utilities usually available
> > in a Linux system.
>
> > > Thanks,
> > > Rui
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[android-developers] Re: G1 linux

2008-11-18 Thread Rui Freitas
Hum, ok. But what i am trying to do is some kind of API to work with the
Bluetooth, cause i need to connect the G1 with some heart rate sensors via
bluetooth. So if it is linux i can do it, but if not, i don't know how to do
it.
So i don't wanna make an application. Is this possible?

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Diego Torres Milano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>
>
>
> On Nov 18, 11:51 pm, Rui Freitas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I wanna now if is it possible to program for the G1 like a linux
> > device. If so, how can i do it? Where can i find that kind of
> > information?
> Android is based on a Linux kernel but strictly speaking it's not
> Linux. Android has no native windowing system, no glibc support and
> doesn't include all of the libraries and utilities usually available
> in a Linux system.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Rui
> >
>

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[android-developers] Re: G1 linux

2008-11-18 Thread Diego Torres Milano



On Nov 18, 11:51 pm, Rui Freitas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I wanna now if is it possible to program for the G1 like a linux
> device. If so, how can i do it? Where can i find that kind of
> information?
Android is based on a Linux kernel but strictly speaking it's not
Linux. Android has no native windowing system, no glibc support and
doesn't include all of the libraries and utilities usually available
in a Linux system.
>
> Thanks,
> Rui
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