[android-developers] Re: Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android applications

2012-10-05 Thread al
Since all answers seem to indicate the opposite: I got the mail but never 
send a DMCA notice.

Am Dienstag, 2. Oktober 2012 22:54:30 UTC+2 schrieb Ian:

 So it seems to be rather good news, isn't it? The FBI is hunting down 
 pirate sites...
 Did those who received this email ever made DMCA copyright infringement 
 notices to websites hosting/linking their apps illegaly?
 I did, several times. And now we've got this email; it may be related.

 On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:46:58 AM UTC+2, Tom wrote:

 I just spoke to a representative who said Google should not have sent 
 those emails. I just said I received an email and she immediately knew 
 what I was referring to, no reference number needed. She told me to forget 
 it was sent, and that the FBI will contact me directly if there is any 
 issue pertaining to my account specifically (someone uploading one of my 
 applications illegally to another application market).

 Hope that clears things up for people, I feel bad for the representatives 
 at that number who must be receiving tons of calls. Anyway, nothing to 
 worry about (at least for now).

 On Monday, October 1, 2012 7:14:18 PM UTC-4, Lew wrote:

 For more information
 about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of
 Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference #
 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.

 On Monday, October 1, 2012 3:50:20 PM UTC-7, Streets Of Boston wrote:

 Got the same e-mail. Asked the same question on 'android-discuss' :-)
 I'm curious what this is all about? BlueStack? Aliyun/Acer?

 On Monday, October 1, 2012 6:45:39 PM UTC-4, Andrei wrote:

 I received this email
 But i am not interested and want my account to be excluded
 What do i need to do?
 Thanks

 Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android
 applications that may have been made available on alternative markets
 without the consent of the developer. The subpoena seeks information
 about those Android applications, including contact information for the
 developers of the applications. Our records show that your Android
 developer account will be included in the information Google will 
 provide
 in response to this subpoena.

 Google is not in a position to provide you with legal advice or discuss
 the substance of the process in our possession. For more information
 about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of
 Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference #
 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.



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Re: [android-developers] Re: Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android applications

2012-10-05 Thread Justin Anderson
I received the email as well but have never sent a DMCA notice either...

Thanks,
Justin Anderson
MagouyaWare Developer
http://sites.google.com/site/magouyaware


On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:12 AM, al achim.leub...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Since all answers seem to indicate the opposite: I got the mail but never
 send a DMCA notice.

 Am Dienstag, 2. Oktober 2012 22:54:30 UTC+2 schrieb Ian:

 So it seems to be rather good news, isn't it? The FBI is hunting down
 pirate sites...
 Did those who received this email ever made DMCA copyright infringement
 notices to websites hosting/linking their apps illegaly?
 I did, several times. And now we've got this email; it may be related.

 On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:46:58 AM UTC+2, Tom wrote:

 I just spoke to a representative who said Google should not have sent
 those emails. I just said I received an email and she immediately knew
 what I was referring to, no reference number needed. She told me to forget
 it was sent, and that the FBI will contact me directly if there is any
 issue pertaining to my account specifically (someone uploading one of my
 applications illegally to another application market).

 Hope that clears things up for people, I feel bad for the
 representatives at that number who must be receiving tons of calls. Anyway,
 nothing to worry about (at least for now).

 On Monday, October 1, 2012 7:14:18 PM UTC-4, Lew wrote:

 For more information
 about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of
 Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference #
 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.

 On Monday, October 1, 2012 3:50:20 PM UTC-7, Streets Of Boston wrote:

 Got the same e-mail. Asked the same question on 'android-discuss' :-)
 I'm curious what this is all about? BlueStack? Aliyun/Acer?

 On Monday, October 1, 2012 6:45:39 PM UTC-4, Andrei wrote:

 I received this email
 But i am not interested and want my account to be excluded
 What do i need to do?
 Thanks

 Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android
 applications that may have been made available on alternative markets
 without the consent of the developer. The subpoena seeks information
 about those Android applications, including contact information for
 the
 developers of the applications. Our records show that your Android
 developer account will be included in the information Google will
 provide
 in response to this subpoena.

 Google is not in a position to provide you with legal advice or
 discuss
 the substance of the process in our possession. For more information
 about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of
 Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference #
 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android applications

2012-10-05 Thread Adam Ratana
Same here.  I have seen my apps show up on pirate sites, though.

On Friday, October 5, 2012 10:57:52 AM UTC-4, MagouyaWare wrote:

 I received the email as well but have never sent a DMCA notice either...

 Thanks,
 Justin Anderson
 MagouyaWare Developer
 http://sites.google.com/site/magouyaware


 On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:12 AM, al achim@googlemail.com javascript:
  wrote:

 Since all answers seem to indicate the opposite: I got the mail but never 
 send a DMCA notice.

 Am Dienstag, 2. Oktober 2012 22:54:30 UTC+2 schrieb Ian:

 So it seems to be rather good news, isn't it? The FBI is hunting down 
 pirate sites...
 Did those who received this email ever made DMCA copyright infringement 
 notices to websites hosting/linking their apps illegaly?
 I did, several times. And now we've got this email; it may be related.

 On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:46:58 AM UTC+2, Tom wrote:

 I just spoke to a representative who said Google should not have sent 
 those emails. I just said I received an email and she immediately knew 
 what I was referring to, no reference number needed. She told me to forget 
 it was sent, and that the FBI will contact me directly if there is any 
 issue pertaining to my account specifically (someone uploading one of my 
 applications illegally to another application market).

 Hope that clears things up for people, I feel bad for the 
 representatives at that number who must be receiving tons of calls. 
 Anyway, 
 nothing to worry about (at least for now).

 On Monday, October 1, 2012 7:14:18 PM UTC-4, Lew wrote:

 For more information
 about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of
 Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference #
 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.

 On Monday, October 1, 2012 3:50:20 PM UTC-7, Streets Of Boston wrote:

 Got the same e-mail. Asked the same question on 'android-discuss' :-)
 I'm curious what this is all about? BlueStack? Aliyun/Acer?

 On Monday, October 1, 2012 6:45:39 PM UTC-4, Andrei wrote:

 I received this email
 But i am not interested and want my account to be excluded
 What do i need to do?
 Thanks

 Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android
 applications that may have been made available on alternative markets
 without the consent of the developer. The subpoena seeks information
 about those Android applications, including contact information for 
 the
 developers of the applications. Our records show that your Android
 developer account will be included in the information Google will 
 provide
 in response to this subpoena.

 Google is not in a position to provide you with legal advice or 
 discuss
 the substance of the process in our possession. For more information
 about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of
 Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference #
 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.

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[android-developers] Re: Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android applications

2012-10-04 Thread Ian
So it seems to be rather good news, isn't it? The FBI is hunting down 
pirate sites...
Did those who received this email ever made DMCA copyright infringement 
notices to websites hosting/linking their apps illegaly?
I did, several times. And now we've got this email; it may be related.

On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:46:58 AM UTC+2, Tom wrote:

 I just spoke to a representative who said Google should not have sent 
 those emails. I just said I received an email and she immediately knew 
 what I was referring to, no reference number needed. She told me to forget 
 it was sent, and that the FBI will contact me directly if there is any 
 issue pertaining to my account specifically (someone uploading one of my 
 applications illegally to another application market).

 Hope that clears things up for people, I feel bad for the representatives 
 at that number who must be receiving tons of calls. Anyway, nothing to 
 worry about (at least for now).

 On Monday, October 1, 2012 7:14:18 PM UTC-4, Lew wrote:

 For more information
 about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of
 Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference #
 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.

 On Monday, October 1, 2012 3:50:20 PM UTC-7, Streets Of Boston wrote:

 Got the same e-mail. Asked the same question on 'android-discuss' :-)
 I'm curious what this is all about? BlueStack? Aliyun/Acer?

 On Monday, October 1, 2012 6:45:39 PM UTC-4, Andrei wrote:

 I received this email
 But i am not interested and want my account to be excluded
 What do i need to do?
 Thanks

 Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android
 applications that may have been made available on alternative markets
 without the consent of the developer. The subpoena seeks information
 about those Android applications, including contact information for the
 developers of the applications. Our records show that your Android
 developer account will be included in the information Google will 
 provide
 in response to this subpoena.

 Google is not in a position to provide you with legal advice or discuss
 the substance of the process in our possession. For more information
 about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of
 Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference #
 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.



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[android-developers] Re: Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android applications

2012-10-04 Thread Tim in Boulder
On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 2:54:30 PM UTC-6, Ian wrote:

 Did those who received this email ever made DMCA copyright infringement 
 notices to websites hosting/linking their apps illegaly?
 I did, several times. And now we've got this email; it may be related.


I've sent DMCA notices, and I got the email, but I'm not sure how the two 
could be related. I didn't sent the DMCA notices to Google, after all, but 
to quasi-legal hosting sites (that often follow the letter of the law by 
taking down the content in question at the link you report, but not 
actually deleting all copies of it). Well...unless the FBI seized the 
servers of one or more of those sites, and found records of those DMCA 
notices? Or they could have otherwise subpoenaed the email records.

Tim

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android applications

2012-10-04 Thread Ian Thecleric
On Thursday, October 4, 2012, Tim in Boulder wrote:

 On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 2:54:30 PM UTC-6, Ian wrote:

 Did those who received this email ever made DMCA copyright infringement
 notices to websites hosting/linking their apps illegaly?
 I did, several times. And now we've got this email; it may be related.


 I've sent DMCA notices, and I got the email, but I'm not sure how the two
 could be related. I didn't sent the DMCA notices to Google, after all, but
 to quasi-legal hosting sites (that often follow the letter of the law by
 taking down the content in question at the link you report, but not
 actually deleting all copies of it). Well...unless the FBI seized the
 servers of one or more of those sites, and found records of those DMCA
 notices? Or they could have otherwise subpoenaed the email records.


 Tim

I haven't read how the dmca process actually works so this is pure
speculation: I've often read about the dmca agent on these websites.
Maybe when receiving such notice, it's automatically transferred to an
official?
Or perhaps it's just what you suggest: the FBI found records of dmca
notices received by one very popular direct download website... Who says
megaupload? ^^ I, at least, remember having filed a dmca notice to
megaupload...

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android applications

2012-10-04 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
FWIW: I got one of those messages too, and only sent a DMCA notice once, to
Google, not some other site (a long time ago, perhaps close to two years).

-- K

2012/10/5 Ian Thecleric ianthecle...@gmail.com



 On Thursday, October 4, 2012, Tim in Boulder wrote:

 On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 2:54:30 PM UTC-6, Ian wrote:

 Did those who received this email ever made DMCA copyright infringement
 notices to websites hosting/linking their apps illegaly?
 I did, several times. And now we've got this email; it may be related.


 I've sent DMCA notices, and I got the email, but I'm not sure how the two
 could be related. I didn't sent the DMCA notices to Google, after all, but
 to quasi-legal hosting sites (that often follow the letter of the law by
 taking down the content in question at the link you report, but not
 actually deleting all copies of it). Well...unless the FBI seized the
 servers of one or more of those sites, and found records of those DMCA
 notices? Or they could have otherwise subpoenaed the email records.


 Tim

 I haven't read how the dmca process actually works so this is pure
 speculation: I've often read about the dmca agent on these websites.
 Maybe when receiving such notice, it's automatically transferred to an
 official?
 Or perhaps it's just what you suggest: the FBI found records of dmca
 notices received by one very popular direct download website... Who says
 megaupload? ^^ I, at least, remember having filed a dmca notice to
 megaupload...

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[android-developers] Re: Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android applications

2012-10-03 Thread andrew mcmillan
While the FBI representative may well say Google should not have sent 
those emails. they are probably expressing more of a desire, than 
identifying an error.  I am personally very happy that Google think they 
should notify me if my name is included in a list of data sent to the FBI, 
as it will reduce my WTF!? and associated risk of cardiac arrest if I 
receive a subsequent communication from them.

I'd be very surprised if that email broadside did not receive minutely 
detailed consideration from Google's lawyers before it went out, and is not 
entirely within the law.

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[android-developers] Re: Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android applications

2012-10-03 Thread Breet Jia
Also received this email. Seems nothing need to do right now?

在 2012年10月2日星期二UTC+8上午6时45分39秒,Andrei写道:

 I received this email
 But i am not interested and want my account to be excluded
 What do i need to do?
 Thanks

 Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android
 applications that may have been made available on alternative markets
 without the consent of the developer. The subpoena seeks information
 about those Android applications, including contact information for the
 developers of the applications. Our records show that your Android
 developer account will be included in the information Google will provide
 in response to this subpoena.

 Google is not in a position to provide you with legal advice or discuss
 the substance of the process in our possession. For more information
 about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of
 Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference #
 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.


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[android-developers] Re: Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android applications

2012-10-02 Thread Nathan
Wow, if I'd gotten it, I'd probably assume it was a phishing message, and 
that somewhere there was a link to verify the bank account associated with 
your developer account.  


Nathan


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[android-developers] Re: Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android applications

2012-10-02 Thread coolbho3k
Unless Google got a legal gag order to keep quiet, they will ALWAYS let you 
know if they've given the government your personal information. The FBI 
told Google not to notify us but couldn't get a court order to do that. 
Google is generally very serious about your personal information. And 
Google will fight subpoenas on your behalf.

On Monday, October 1, 2012 7:46:58 PM UTC-4, Tom wrote:

 I just spoke to a representative who said Google should not have sent 
 those emails. I just said I received an email and she immediately knew 
 what I was referring to, no reference number needed. She told me to forget 
 it was sent, and that the FBI will contact me directly if there is any 
 issue pertaining to my account specifically (someone uploading one of my 
 applications illegally to another application market).

 Hope that clears things up for people, I feel bad for the representatives 
 at that number who must be receiving tons of calls. Anyway, nothing to 
 worry about (at least for now).

 On Monday, October 1, 2012 7:14:18 PM UTC-4, Lew wrote:

 For more information
 about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of
 Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference #
 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.

 On Monday, October 1, 2012 3:50:20 PM UTC-7, Streets Of Boston wrote:

 Got the same e-mail. Asked the same question on 'android-discuss' :-)
 I'm curious what this is all about? BlueStack? Aliyun/Acer?

 On Monday, October 1, 2012 6:45:39 PM UTC-4, Andrei wrote:

 I received this email
 But i am not interested and want my account to be excluded
 What do i need to do?
 Thanks

 Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android
 applications that may have been made available on alternative markets
 without the consent of the developer. The subpoena seeks information
 about those Android applications, including contact information for the
 developers of the applications. Our records show that your Android
 developer account will be included in the information Google will 
 provide
 in response to this subpoena.

 Google is not in a position to provide you with legal advice or discuss
 the substance of the process in our possession. For more information
 about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of
 Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference #
 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.



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[android-developers] Re: Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android applications

2012-10-02 Thread Indicator Veritatis
Good assumption, even if it turns out not to be true in this case. I would 
not, for example, have assumed that the phone number in the message was a 
genuine FBI office number unless independently verified.

Why the FBI would need that much detailed information for the stated 
purposes is also suspicious. All they really need to know is whether or not 
the developer responsible for uploading to the alternative market is the 
same as the one uploading on Google. They do not need the developer's full 
contact info for that. If they were really concerned with fighting piracy 
rather than reaping domestic intelligence, they could have a third party 
compare contact info and let them know which are matches w/o revealing the 
data: kind of like a contact information escrow agent.

On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 8:15:05 AM UTC-7, Nathan wrote:

 Wow, if I'd gotten it, I'd probably assume it was a phishing message, and 
 that somewhere there was a link to verify the bank account associated with 
 your developer account.  


 Nathan




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[android-developers] Re: Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android applications

2012-10-01 Thread Flying Coder
I got this too -- anyone know what this is about?

On Monday, October 1, 2012 6:45:39 PM UTC-4, Andrei wrote:

 I received this email
 But i am not interested and want my account to be excluded
 What do i need to do?
 Thanks

 Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android
 applications that may have been made available on alternative markets
 without the consent of the developer. The subpoena seeks information
 about those Android applications, including contact information for the
 developers of the applications. Our records show that your Android
 developer account will be included in the information Google will provide
 in response to this subpoena.

 Google is not in a position to provide you with legal advice or discuss
 the substance of the process in our possession. For more information
 about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of
 Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference #
 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.


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[android-developers] Re: Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android applications

2012-10-01 Thread Streets Of Boston
Got the same e-mail. Asked the same question on 'android-discuss' :-)
I'm curious what this is all about? BlueStack? Aliyun/Acer?

On Monday, October 1, 2012 6:45:39 PM UTC-4, Andrei wrote:

 I received this email
 But i am not interested and want my account to be excluded
 What do i need to do?
 Thanks

 Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android
 applications that may have been made available on alternative markets
 without the consent of the developer. The subpoena seeks information
 about those Android applications, including contact information for the
 developers of the applications. Our records show that your Android
 developer account will be included in the information Google will provide
 in response to this subpoena.

 Google is not in a position to provide you with legal advice or discuss
 the substance of the process in our possession. For more information
 about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of
 Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference #
 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.


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[android-developers] Re: Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android applications

2012-10-01 Thread Lew
For more information
about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of
Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference #
2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.

On Monday, October 1, 2012 3:50:20 PM UTC-7, Streets Of Boston wrote:

 Got the same e-mail. Asked the same question on 'android-discuss' :-)
 I'm curious what this is all about? BlueStack? Aliyun/Acer?

 On Monday, October 1, 2012 6:45:39 PM UTC-4, Andrei wrote:

 I received this email
 But i am not interested and want my account to be excluded
 What do i need to do?
 Thanks

 Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android
 applications that may have been made available on alternative markets
 without the consent of the developer. The subpoena seeks information
 about those Android applications, including contact information for the
 developers of the applications. Our records show that your Android
 developer account will be included in the information Google will provide
 in response to this subpoena.

 Google is not in a position to provide you with legal advice or discuss
 the substance of the process in our possession. For more information
 about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of
 Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference #
 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.



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[android-developers] Re: Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android applications

2012-10-01 Thread Tom
I just spoke to a representative who said Google should not have sent 
those emails. I just said I received an email and she immediately knew 
what I was referring to, no reference number needed. She told me to forget 
it was sent, and that the FBI will contact me directly if there is any 
issue pertaining to my account specifically (someone uploading one of my 
applications illegally to another application market).

Hope that clears things up for people, I feel bad for the representatives 
at that number who must be receiving tons of calls. Anyway, nothing to 
worry about (at least for now).

On Monday, October 1, 2012 7:14:18 PM UTC-4, Lew wrote:

 For more information
 about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of
 Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference #
 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.

 On Monday, October 1, 2012 3:50:20 PM UTC-7, Streets Of Boston wrote:

 Got the same e-mail. Asked the same question on 'android-discuss' :-)
 I'm curious what this is all about? BlueStack? Aliyun/Acer?

 On Monday, October 1, 2012 6:45:39 PM UTC-4, Andrei wrote:

 I received this email
 But i am not interested and want my account to be excluded
 What do i need to do?
 Thanks

 Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android
 applications that may have been made available on alternative markets
 without the consent of the developer. The subpoena seeks information
 about those Android applications, including contact information for the
 developers of the applications. Our records show that your Android
 developer account will be included in the information Google will provide
 in response to this subpoena.

 Google is not in a position to provide you with legal advice or discuss
 the substance of the process in our possession. For more information
 about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of
 Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference #
 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.



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[android-developers] Re: Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android applications

2012-10-01 Thread John Coryat
I think that used to be called a SNAFU.

-John Coryat

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[android-developers] Re: Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android applications

2012-10-01 Thread Andy
I received this mail as well. But seems like not many have got this.

On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 5:50:25 AM UTC+2, John Coryat wrote:

 I think that used to be called a SNAFU.

 -John Coryat


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