[android-developers] Re: Paid apps related questions discussion list?
Hi, Guys, I want to confirm this, I put one application to the market, but no payment settings set now, because I live outside of America now, I want to use local card, which does't have a routing number, is it allowed? I post the message here because I can't start a new thread, why? I also don't know, there seems many issues with google systems, big pity. Thanks Harry --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Paid apps related questions discussion list?
Thanks Jon - that's a good tip. I think Jay has just implemented support for paid / copy protected apps in Cyrket so mine is now indeed visible. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Paid apps related questions discussion list?
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Stoyan Damov wrote: > > Only if your apps are NOT protected, which is what I did. The > "protection" is pretty ridiculous anyway. > I'm SURE Steve Jobs is laughing his ass off. iPhone app developers aren't in a better situation. Hackulous can provide any apps in Apple app store for free, or for $1 donation:) http://hackulo.us/forums/ And more interestingly, Hackulous website itself was hijacked couple of days ago:) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Paid apps related questions discussion list?
Personally I have the mental image of staff at Nokia pointing at people with G1's and giving the Nelson laugh (http://home.earthlink.net/~mail11325/_wav/Nelson_Laugh.wav) Al. Stoyan Damov wrote: > Only if your apps are NOT protected, which is what I did. The > "protection" is pretty ridiculous anyway. > I'm SURE Steve Jobs is laughing his ass off. > > On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Jon Colverson wrote: > >> On Feb 22, 8:37 am, "ellipsoidmob...@googlemail.com" >> wrote: >> >>> I've had a couple of cancellations but I have no idea why!! Does >>> anyone know a way for UK developers to see the feedback that users >>> have given their applications? >>> >> You can read your feedback on the unofficial Market browser Cyrket: >> http://www.cyrket.com/ >> >> -- >> Jon >> - Show quoted text - >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Paid apps related questions discussion list?
Only if your apps are NOT protected, which is what I did. The "protection" is pretty ridiculous anyway. I'm SURE Steve Jobs is laughing his ass off. On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Jon Colverson wrote: > > On Feb 22, 8:37 am, "ellipsoidmob...@googlemail.com" > wrote: >> I've had a couple of cancellations but I have no idea why!! Does >> anyone know a way for UK developers to see the feedback that users >> have given their applications? > > You can read your feedback on the unofficial Market browser Cyrket: > http://www.cyrket.com/ > > -- > Jon > - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Paid apps related questions discussion list?
On Feb 22, 8:37 am, "ellipsoidmob...@googlemail.com" wrote: > I've had a couple of cancellations but I have no idea why!! Does > anyone know a way for UK developers to see the feedback that users > have given their applications? You can read your feedback on the unofficial Market browser Cyrket: http://www.cyrket.com/ -- Jon --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Paid apps related questions discussion list?
I've had a couple of cancellations but I have no idea why!! Does anyone know a way for UK developers to see the feedback that users have given their applications? I understood that UK users wouldn't be able to download applications on day 1 - but developers not being able to see their own feedback? Crazy!! How am I supposed to provide any kind of support? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Paid apps related questions discussion list?
+ 1 for updates not downloading. Google, please fix the Market problems. I got 100 e-mails today about Market payment and download problems. Please support your products! On Feb 21, 12:53 pm, Jon Colverson wrote: > On Feb 21, 3:24 pm, Stoyan Damov wrote: > > > Is there a dedicated list for developers who have paid apps in Android > > Market? It would be best if that list has at least 1 *Google* (not > > Android, i.e. I don't need it to be technically savvy) employee able > > to give sensible answers to WTF questions related to the Market and > > paid apps? > > This would seem to be the official > place:http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market > > -- > Jon --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Paid apps related questions discussion list?
On Feb 21, 3:24 pm, Stoyan Damov wrote: > Is there a dedicated list for developers who have paid apps in Android > Market? It would be best if that list has at least 1 *Google* (not > Android, i.e. I don't need it to be technically savvy) employee able > to give sensible answers to WTF questions related to the Market and > paid apps? This would seem to be the official place: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market -- Jon --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Paid apps related questions discussion list?
I just got another round of emails about people not being able to download updates. I don't think it is a coincidence now... Any work from T-Mobile or Google? On Feb 21, 2:20 pm, Gil wrote: > Many users who try to download paid apps are complaining that the > downloads are not actually working. Google needs to display a support > e-mail regarding Market issues in plain site so that users will not > contact developers for payment and download related issues. > > On Feb 21, 10:54 am, Stoyan Damov wrote: > > > "Think twice before turning on the "Copy Protection" option!" I think > > > On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 7:25 PM, ellipsoidmob...@googlemail.com > > > wrote: > > > > Yup I share a lot of these frustrations. I now have a return but > > > absolutely no idea why. I don't know whether my app is visible to all > > > users in the US or just a subset. I have copy protection enabled, so > > > maybe as above it's causing my app to crash? Who knows - I can't > > > download it to try it myself (I'm in the UK) and I can't even see the > > > feedback for my own app!! > > > > BTW - Stoyan, where's the thread on copy protection causing crashes? I > > > couldn't find it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Paid apps related questions discussion list?
Many users who try to download paid apps are complaining that the downloads are not actually working. Google needs to display a support e-mail regarding Market issues in plain site so that users will not contact developers for payment and download related issues. On Feb 21, 10:54 am, Stoyan Damov wrote: > "Think twice before turning on the "Copy Protection" option!" I think > > On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 7:25 PM, ellipsoidmob...@googlemail.com > > wrote: > > > Yup I share a lot of these frustrations. I now have a return but > > absolutely no idea why. I don't know whether my app is visible to all > > users in the US or just a subset. I have copy protection enabled, so > > maybe as above it's causing my app to crash? Who knows - I can't > > download it to try it myself (I'm in the UK) and I can't even see the > > feedback for my own app!! > > > BTW - Stoyan, where's the thread on copy protection causing crashes? I > > couldn't find it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Paid apps related questions discussion list?
"Think twice before turning on the "Copy Protection" option!" I think On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 7:25 PM, ellipsoidmob...@googlemail.com wrote: > > Yup I share a lot of these frustrations. I now have a return but > absolutely no idea why. I don't know whether my app is visible to all > users in the US or just a subset. I have copy protection enabled, so > maybe as above it's causing my app to crash? Who knows - I can't > download it to try it myself (I'm in the UK) and I can't even see the > feedback for my own app!! > > BTW - Stoyan, where's the thread on copy protection causing crashes? I > couldn't find it. > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Paid apps related questions discussion list?
+1 for not being able to install updates. I asked them to uninstall and reinstall but no feedback yet. This is RIDICULOUS, Google shouldn't have put the paid apps-enabled Market before testing it to death. On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Timothy DeWees wrote: > > I'm getting some users who can't download updates either. They can > get the first version and then when I push an update, it just sits and > "downloading" forever. I haven't experienced copy protection causing > crashing, but I'm sure it is only a matter of time... > > On Feb 21, 12:25 pm, "ellipsoidmob...@googlemail.com" > - Show quoted text - > wrote: >> Yup I share a lot of these frustrations. I now have a return but >> absolutely no idea why. I don't know whether my app is visible to all >> users in the US or just a subset. I have copy protection enabled, so >> maybe as above it's causing my app to crash? Who knows - I can't >> download it to try it myself (I'm in the UK) and I can't even see the >> feedback for my own app!! >> >> BTW - Stoyan, where's the thread on copy protection causing crashes? I >> couldn't find it. > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Paid apps related questions discussion list?
One more data point for the copy protection concerns. I had my paid app using copy protection, and apparently some people were able to find it for awhile - I got two downloads and an email from AdMob asking me to advertise my paid app with them. I, however, could not see my app on my ADP1. While I scurried about the internets trying to find out why, I check my phone hopefully every few minutes, and, oddly enough, an hour later I could see my app. I went to sleep and checked the market again 10 hours later, and my app was gone again. I saw lots of complaints about copy protection and turned it off. I just checked my phone now, 10 minutes after turning off copy protection, and I can see my paid app in the market again. On Feb 21, 12:46 pm, Timothy DeWees wrote: > I'm getting some users who can't download updates either. They can > get the first version and then when I push an update, it just sits and > "downloading" forever. I haven't experienced copy protection causing > crashing, but I'm sure it is only a matter of time... > > On Feb 21, 12:25 pm, "ellipsoidmob...@googlemail.com" > > wrote: > > Yup I share a lot of these frustrations. I now have a return but > > absolutely no idea why. I don't know whether my app is visible to all > > users in the US or just a subset. I have copy protection enabled, so > > maybe as above it's causing my app to crash? Who knows - I can't > > download it to try it myself (I'm in the UK) and I can't even see the > > feedback for my own app!! > > > BTW - Stoyan, where's the thread on copy protection causing crashes? I > > couldn't find it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Paid apps related questions discussion list?
I'm getting some users who can't download updates either. They can get the first version and then when I push an update, it just sits and "downloading" forever. I haven't experienced copy protection causing crashing, but I'm sure it is only a matter of time... On Feb 21, 12:25 pm, "ellipsoidmob...@googlemail.com" wrote: > Yup I share a lot of these frustrations. I now have a return but > absolutely no idea why. I don't know whether my app is visible to all > users in the US or just a subset. I have copy protection enabled, so > maybe as above it's causing my app to crash? Who knows - I can't > download it to try it myself (I'm in the UK) and I can't even see the > feedback for my own app!! > > BTW - Stoyan, where's the thread on copy protection causing crashes? I > couldn't find it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Paid apps related questions discussion list?
Yup I share a lot of these frustrations. I now have a return but absolutely no idea why. I don't know whether my app is visible to all users in the US or just a subset. I have copy protection enabled, so maybe as above it's causing my app to crash? Who knows - I can't download it to try it myself (I'm in the UK) and I can't even see the feedback for my own app!! BTW - Stoyan, where's the thread on copy protection causing crashes? I couldn't find it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Paid apps related questions discussion list?
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Stoyan Damov wrote: > OK, I'll start here then... > > 1. Where are my apps? I released 2 apps yesterday, 1 free (limited, > lite, demo, whatever you call it), and 1 paid. Yesterday both were in > Market. I had a few sales, and about 1500 downloads of the free app. > I talked to Jay @ cyrket.com and he said he can't see the games on his > device and that I probably seem them because the Market client in my > G1 cached it. Guys, do you see "Droid Breakout" or "Droid Breakout > Lite" on his phone (it's important that I get answers from those of > you who haven't downloaded it ever)? > 1 is solved. I just turned off copy protection. Copy protection, as mentioned on another thread (Think twice before turning copy protection on) has the following impact: - apps not visible on ADP1 phones - apps not visible on Cyrket - apps CRASHING randomly and miserably with a Force Close option!!! Guys at Google, the last is TOO much! This isn't your search engine, where from insiders I know *very* well how it works - this software on that server crashes - so what, another takes on. Android Market is a customer facing application, meeting sellers and buyers where money is involved on *both* ends. A crash due to me marking an app as copy protected is not only -1 sale for me. It's also $-3 for the charge back. If you can't test it properly, for God's sake, MISS the deadline and deliver it when ready! Everybody could wait a couple more weeks :( --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Paid apps related questions discussion list?
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Stoyan Damov wrote: > OK, I'll start here then... > > 1. Where are my apps? Guys, do you see "Droid Breakout" or "Droid Breakout > Lite" on his your :) phone (it's important that I get > answers from those of > you who haven't downloaded it ever)? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Paid apps related questions discussion list?
OK, I'll start here then... 1. Where are my apps? I released 2 apps yesterday, 1 free (limited, lite, demo, whatever you call it), and 1 paid. Yesterday both were in Market. I had a few sales, and about 1500 downloads of the free app. I talked to Jay @ cyrket.com and he said he can't see the games on his device and that I probably seem them because the Market client in my G1 cached it. Guys, do you see "Droid Breakout" or "Droid Breakout Lite" on his phone (it's important that I get answers from those of you who haven't downloaded it ever)? 2. Can someone @ Google fix the problem w/ cancels. I had 7 cancels, all with this message: "You cancelled this order. Reason: Other (describe below) Message sent to customer: Refund requested from phone." Well, where's the "describe below" message? The customers could have said something valuable like: - I thought I was buying a different kind game, sorry - The game is unstable or slow, etc. - I played enough for the 24 hours FREE period, thanks Google 3. The Developer Console is OFF by at least 1 hour. I don't understand how caching works, but Market is not a search engine - we need kind of real-time or reasonably delayed updates. I have to track both via the Google checkout account and via the Developer Console to understand what's happening. 4. Ratings and comments - this is the WORST designed "feature" I've ever seen in software. EVER. Users rate the software for the bad experience with Market, e.g. I've got: "Wudlnt install 4 me" - 1 star "Cant download" - 1 start etc., etc. Is this *my* software's fault? Re comments - where's the ability for us, developers to reply to comments? I tried modifying my own comment on the game, keeping it for about 30-40 minutes, then altering it again to answer another user. I have even more and more questions, but these above are real showstoppers. Especially cancels w/o a reason and w/o the ability to dispute a cancel. If I don't get answer soon I don't have anything else to do but pull off the apps because apparently 1) (missing apps) prevents me from selling the game and I haven't wasted months for nothing. Cheers On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Stoyan Damov wrote: > Hi there, > > Is there a dedicated list for developers who have paid apps in Android > Market? It would be best if that list has at least 1 *Google* (not > Android, i.e. I don't need it to be technically savvy) employee able > to give sensible answers to WTF questions related to the Market and > paid apps? > > Thanks, > Stoyan > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
