[android-developers] Re: This bug is costing us money every month

2009-08-04 Thread Disconnect
They didn't wake up 2 weeks ago and say "hey, I know, lets call the hero the
g2!"

That device (and that name, or a variant thereof) has been around since at
least the release of the g1, if not earlier. The fact that everyone decided
every android phone was the g-something is irrelevant. (Hey, I have android
on an old kaiser - is it the g0?)

They tried multiple names for the touch, but you'll note that none of them
was anything like 'g2'...

2009/8/4 Cédric Berger 

>
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 16:33, Disconnect wrote:
> > ...so if I start calling the htc touch pro "mcdonalds" that makes it
> > correct, and mcdonald's is the one causing confusion?
> >
> > Yeah, I don't think so.. just because you decide the magic/mytouch is the
> g2
> > doesn't make it so. Especially when the actual g2 has been released. (Esp
> > since the trademark was filed everywhere, so it was patently obvious that
> > they had a g2 coming and this wasn't it..)
> >
>
> - It is not about me deciding anything, nor original poster, but about
> a lot of people, blogs, news sites, newspapers,... (mistakenly, ok)
> calling it G2.
> - no I never said that it makes it the correct name.
> - I said that "it" will cause confusion, I did not blame TMobile
> though anyway I might have, not a big deal. They decided of a name
> after this "G2" name was already ("incorrectly") used quite a lot.
> Just confusing.
> And this comes after they investigated about several names for the
> myTouch 3G... can't say they did not think about the matter !
>
> Good luck for users looking for help for their mobile and googling "G2"
> .
> Try to google even for "Tmobile G2"... only gets better with "TMobile G2
> Touch"
>
> >
>

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[android-developers] Re: This bug is costing us money every month

2009-08-04 Thread Cédric Berger

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 16:33, Disconnect wrote:
> ...so if I start calling the htc touch pro "mcdonalds" that makes it
> correct, and mcdonald's is the one causing confusion?
>
> Yeah, I don't think so.. just because you decide the magic/mytouch is the g2
> doesn't make it so. Especially when the actual g2 has been released. (Esp
> since the trademark was filed everywhere, so it was patently obvious that
> they had a g2 coming and this wasn't it..)
>

- It is not about me deciding anything, nor original poster, but about
a lot of people, blogs, news sites, newspapers,... (mistakenly, ok)
calling it G2.
- no I never said that it makes it the correct name.
- I said that "it" will cause confusion, I did not blame TMobile
though anyway I might have, not a big deal. They decided of a name
after this "G2" name was already ("incorrectly") used quite a lot.
Just confusing.
And this comes after they investigated about several names for the
myTouch 3G... can't say they did not think about the matter !

Good luck for users looking for help for their mobile and googling "G2" .
Try to google even for "Tmobile G2"... only gets better with "TMobile G2 Touch"

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[android-developers] Re: This bug is costing us money every month

2009-08-04 Thread GC



On Aug 3, 4:42 pm, Disconnect  wrote:
> The G2 JUST came out - it may cost you money next month, but it hasn't cost
> you anything yet...
>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:50 AM, Mister Helmut wrote:
>

Go grab WiSyncPlus from the market. It even has built in roaming
protection mechanisms. You can read more about it at
http://www.gearsoft.mobi/wisyncplus.html

The added advantage of the application is you can schedule when and
how often you want to synchronize, if at all, or even push it all to
WIFI, as available. Plus, most users discover drastic power savings
with the application. Many claim two to three days between charges. If
it saves you from one accidental billing, you've paid for the
application and likely money ahead.

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[android-developers] Re: This bug is costing us money every month

2009-08-04 Thread Disconnect
...so if I start calling the htc touch pro "mcdonalds" that makes it
correct, and mcdonald's is the one causing confusion?

Yeah, I don't think so.. just because you decide the magic/mytouch is the g2
doesn't make it so. Especially when the actual g2 has been released. (Esp
since the trademark was filed everywhere, so it was patently obvious that
they had a g2 coming and this wasn't it..)

2009/8/4 Cédric Berger 

>
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 15:30, Disconnect wrote:
> > He says, in so many words, that:
> >> > in my company, we have G2's as professional phones, and we
> >> > ALL get that charges every month (most of us don't live in the country
> >> > we are working in).
> >
> > ..thats how I know. Because he told me.
> >
>
> Anyway, what phone are we talking about ?
> G2 is how the HTC Magic (Sapphire / Ion / mytouch 3g) have often been
> called (and still is), since the beginning (about may, 5th in UK,
> france,...)
>
> No matter this is not its real name TMobile selling another phone
> named G2 is going to cause a LOT of such confusion in forums :-(
>
> >
>

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[android-developers] Re: This bug is costing us money every month

2009-08-04 Thread Cédric Berger

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 15:30, Disconnect wrote:
> He says, in so many words, that:
>> > in my company, we have G2's as professional phones, and we
>> > ALL get that charges every month (most of us don't live in the country
>> > we are working in).
>
> ..thats how I know. Because he told me.
>

Anyway, what phone are we talking about ?
G2 is how the HTC Magic (Sapphire / Ion / mytouch 3g) have often been
called (and still is), since the beginning (about may, 5th in UK,
france,...)

No matter this is not its real name TMobile selling another phone
named G2 is going to cause a LOT of such confusion in forums :-(

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[android-developers] Re: This bug is costing us money every month

2009-08-04 Thread Disconnect
He says, in so many words, that:
> > in my company, we have G2's as professional phones, and we
> > ALL get that charges every month (most of us don't live in the country
> > we are working in).

..thats how I know. Because he told me.

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Kaj Bjurman  wrote:

>
> How can you know? He could  have had another Android phone prior to
> the G2.
>
> @Op. You could as a workaround use an application like APNDroid, but
> the bug should be fixed.
>
>
> On 3 Aug, 23:42, Disconnect  wrote:
> > The G2 JUST came out - it may cost you money next month, but it hasn't
> cost
> > you anything yet...
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:50 AM, Mister Helmut  >wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Hello,
> >
> > > I'd like to refer to the issue 2379 :
> > >http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2379
> >
> > > I know that I may be in infringement of the discussion group guideline
> > > but this is a kind of "SOS" message.
> > > This bug is actually costing money every month to all of us going
> > > aboard very often (or just occasionnaly).
> > > As of me, in my company, we have G2's as professional phones, and we
> > > ALL get that charges every month (most of us don't live in the country
> > > we are working in).
> >
> > > This bug has a "new" status since april, and we can't imagine it not
> > > being fixed for the next 6 month as our phone provider wont refund us
> > > anymore.
> >
> > > We may try to correct it ourself, but we are very confident with the
> > > lower level stack of android source code and we just don't really have
> > > the time to do it.
> >
> > > Thanks for reading, and I feel sorry about this message, as I know
> > > that this kind of message isn't percived very well but please
> > > understand our situation.
> >
>

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[android-developers] Re: This bug is costing us money every month

2009-08-04 Thread Kaj Bjurman

How can you know? He could  have had another Android phone prior to
the G2.

@Op. You could as a workaround use an application like APNDroid, but
the bug should be fixed.


On 3 Aug, 23:42, Disconnect  wrote:
> The G2 JUST came out - it may cost you money next month, but it hasn't cost
> you anything yet...
>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:50 AM, Mister Helmut wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hello,
>
> > I'd like to refer to the issue 2379 :
> >http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2379
>
> > I know that I may be in infringement of the discussion group guideline
> > but this is a kind of "SOS" message.
> > This bug is actually costing money every month to all of us going
> > aboard very often (or just occasionnaly).
> > As of me, in my company, we have G2's as professional phones, and we
> > ALL get that charges every month (most of us don't live in the country
> > we are working in).
>
> > This bug has a "new" status since april, and we can't imagine it not
> > being fixed for the next 6 month as our phone provider wont refund us
> > anymore.
>
> > We may try to correct it ourself, but we are very confident with the
> > lower level stack of android source code and we just don't really have
> > the time to do it.
>
> > Thanks for reading, and I feel sorry about this message, as I know
> > that this kind of message isn't percived very well but please
> > understand our situation.
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[android-developers] Re: This bug is costing us money every month

2009-08-04 Thread Eric Wong (hdmp4.com)

Good luck waiting for the fix.

Google is not very transparent in these things.if you have been
here long enough.

Cheers
Eric

On Aug 4, 7:42 am, Disconnect  wrote:
> The G2 JUST came out - it may cost you money next month, but it hasn't cost
> you anything yet...
>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:50 AM, Mister Helmut wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hello,
>
> > I'd like to refer to the issue 2379 :
> >http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2379
>
> > I know that I may be in infringement of the discussion group guideline
> > but this is a kind of "SOS" message.
> > This bug is actually costing money every month to all of us going
> > aboard very often (or just occasionnaly).
> > As of me, in my company, we have G2's as professional phones, and we
> > ALL get that charges every month (most of us don't live in the country
> > we are working in).
>
> > This bug has a "new" status since april, and we can't imagine it not
> > being fixed for the next 6 month as our phone provider wont refund us
> > anymore.
>
> > We may try to correct it ourself, but we are very confident with the
> > lower level stack of android source code and we just don't really have
> > the time to do it.
>
> > Thanks for reading, and I feel sorry about this message, as I know
> > that this kind of message isn't percived very well but please
> > understand our situation.
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[android-developers] Re: This bug is costing us money every month

2009-08-03 Thread Disconnect
The G2 JUST came out - it may cost you money next month, but it hasn't cost
you anything yet...

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:50 AM, Mister Helmut wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> I'd like to refer to the issue 2379 :
> http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2379
>
> I know that I may be in infringement of the discussion group guideline
> but this is a kind of "SOS" message.
> This bug is actually costing money every month to all of us going
> aboard very often (or just occasionnaly).
> As of me, in my company, we have G2's as professional phones, and we
> ALL get that charges every month (most of us don't live in the country
> we are working in).
>
> This bug has a "new" status since april, and we can't imagine it not
> being fixed for the next 6 month as our phone provider wont refund us
> anymore.
>
> We may try to correct it ourself, but we are very confident with the
> lower level stack of android source code and we just don't really have
> the time to do it.
>
> Thanks for reading, and I feel sorry about this message, as I know
> that this kind of message isn't percived very well but please
> understand our situation.
>
> >
>

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