[android-developers] Re: What determines Android Market popularity ranking
Would you share the percentage of active installs? My app is around 40-50% and while the rating is now 4.40, the app goes lower and lower on the popularity rating. Maybe Google doesn't like my app? :-) -Christer On Feb 2, 4:13 pm, Sundog sunns...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think that's true. I released my app on day one and it's been in the top ten ever since. On Feb 1, 9:39 am, brs bernhard.r.su...@gmail.com wrote: There also seems to be a time aspect to it - newer apps seem to be favored in the ranking even if they have not as many downloads or ratings as an older one. As a suggestion to the Market team: it would be really nice to list the apps by multiple metrics. We already have date and this secret, magic popularity metric. Sometimes I just would like to see which are the most downloaded or most highly rated applications in a particular category. Bernhard On Feb 1, 10:56 am, Chister Nordvik cnord...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone figured out this magic formula? I have a app that has 15000 downloads, a rating of 4.38(600 ratings), but it is still less popular than a competing app with 1 downloads and a rating of 3.45. How is this possible? My guess is that it is related to the number of uninstalls but then the rating system is all wrong? I think I just have to make a new application with a similar name and start all over again since the app got a lot of uninstalls in the first version. But then I loose 600 ratings which could potentially be very important to have if the rating system changes... So please, Google employees, can you give us any hints on whether you are doing any changes to the rating system in the near future or give us any hints on how the list is decided? -Christer On Dec 18 2008, 3:44 pm, joshv jvanderb...@gmail.com wrote: I've posted this question to theMarkettechnical support forum and received no answer, so I will try here. Does anyone know what metrics are used to determine an application'spopularityin the AndroidMarket? It does not appear to involve just the number of ratings, the download count, or the average rating, as there are applications which are persistently ranked lower bypopularityeven though they have higher download counts, higher total ratings, and higher average ratings than other apps that are more popular in the same category. I don't want to point to specific apps in this post, but it should be easy enough to find examples. If a Google employee is interested in specific examples, contact me directly.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: What determines Android Market popularity ranking
Has anyone figured out this magic formula? I have a app that has 15000 downloads, a rating of 4.38(600 ratings), but it is still less popular than a competing app with 1 downloads and a rating of 3.45. How is this possible? My guess is that it is related to the number of uninstalls but then the rating system is all wrong? I think I just have to make a new application with a similar name and start all over again since the app got a lot of uninstalls in the first version. But then I loose 600 ratings which could potentially be very important to have if the rating system changes... So please, Google employees, can you give us any hints on whether you are doing any changes to the rating system in the near future or give us any hints on how the list is decided? -Christer On Dec 18 2008, 3:44 pm, joshv jvanderb...@gmail.com wrote: I've posted this question to theMarkettechnical support forum and received no answer, so I will try here. Does anyone know what metrics are used to determine an application'spopularityin the AndroidMarket? It does not appear to involve just the number of ratings, the download count, or the average rating, as there are applications which are persistently ranked lower bypopularityeven though they have higher download counts, higher total ratings, and higher average ratings than other apps that are more popular in the same category. I don't want to point to specific apps in this post, but it should be easy enough to find examples. If a Google employee is interested in specific examples, contact me directly. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: What determines Android Market popularity ranking
There also seems to be a time aspect to it - newer apps seem to be favored in the ranking even if they have not as many downloads or ratings as an older one. As a suggestion to the Market team: it would be really nice to list the apps by multiple metrics. We already have date and this secret, magic popularity metric. Sometimes I just would like to see which are the most downloaded or most highly rated applications in a particular category. Bernhard On Feb 1, 10:56 am, Chister Nordvik cnord...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone figured out this magic formula? I have a app that has 15000 downloads, a rating of 4.38(600 ratings), but it is still less popular than a competing app with 1 downloads and a rating of 3.45. How is this possible? My guess is that it is related to the number of uninstalls but then the rating system is all wrong? I think I just have to make a new application with a similar name and start all over again since the app got a lot of uninstalls in the first version. But then I loose 600 ratings which could potentially be very important to have if the rating system changes... So please, Google employees, can you give us any hints on whether you are doing any changes to the rating system in the near future or give us any hints on how the list is decided? -Christer On Dec 18 2008, 3:44 pm, joshv jvanderb...@gmail.com wrote: I've posted this question to theMarkettechnical support forum and received no answer, so I will try here. Does anyone know what metrics are used to determine an application'spopularityin the AndroidMarket? It does not appear to involve just the number of ratings, the download count, or the average rating, as there are applications which are persistently ranked lower bypopularityeven though they have higher download counts, higher total ratings, and higher average ratings than other apps that are more popular in the same category. I don't want to point to specific apps in this post, but it should be easy enough to find examples. If a Google employee is interested in specific examples, contact me directly. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: What determines Android Market popularity ranking
The active install % seems to be very highly rated in this magic formula right now. Which means any update you release will, by definition, kill your popularity. Personally, I'd rather focus on improving the app instead of gaming the system, but I agree it would be nice if the rating favored # of downloads a bit more. On Feb 1, 10:56 am, Chister Nordvik cnord...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone figured out this magic formula? I have a app that has 15000 downloads, a rating of 4.38(600 ratings), but it is still less popular than a competing app with 1 downloads and a rating of 3.45. How is this possible? My guess is that it is related to the number of uninstalls but then the rating system is all wrong? I think I just have to make a new application with a similar name and start all over again since the app got a lot of uninstalls in the first version. But then I loose 600 ratings which could potentially be very important to have if the rating system changes... So please, Google employees, can you give us any hints on whether you are doing any changes to the rating system in the near future or give us any hints on how the list is decided? -Christer On Dec 18 2008, 3:44 pm, joshv jvanderb...@gmail.com wrote: I've posted this question to theMarkettechnical support forum and received no answer, so I will try here. Does anyone know what metrics are used to determine an application'spopularityin the AndroidMarket? It does not appear to involve just the number of ratings, the download count, or the average rating, as there are applications which are persistently ranked lower bypopularityeven though they have higher download counts, higher total ratings, and higher average ratings than other apps that are more popular in the same category. I don't want to point to specific apps in this post, but it should be easy enough to find examples. If a Google employee is interested in specific examples, contact me directly. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: What determines Android Market popularity ranking
Did you ever get an answer to this? I'm curious as well. Perhaps they are being purposely vague to discourage gaming the system by certain app developers. On Dec 18, 9:44 am, joshv jvanderb...@gmail.com wrote: I've posted this question to the Market technical support forum and received no answer, so I will try here. Does anyone know what metrics are used to determine an application's popularity in the Android Market? It does not appear to involve just the number of ratings, the download count, or the average rating, as there are applications which are persistently ranked lower by popularity even though they have higher download counts, higher total ratings, and higher average ratings than other apps that are more popular in the same category. I don't want to point to specific apps in this post, but it should be easy enough to find examples. If a Google employee is interested in specific examples, contact me directly. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: What determines Android Market popularity ranking
The real problem is kids using the rating system to write dirty words. Google need to help us clean this up/ On Dec 24, 3:15 pm, John Spurlock john.spurl...@gmail.com wrote: Did you ever get an answer to this? I'm curious as well. Perhaps they are being purposely vague to discourage gaming the system by certain app developers. On Dec 18, 9:44 am, joshv jvanderb...@gmail.com wrote: I've posted this question to the Market technical support forum and received no answer, so I will try here. Does anyone know what metrics are used to determine an application's popularity in the Android Market? It does not appear to involve just the number of ratings, the download count, or the average rating, as there are applications which are persistently ranked lower by popularity even though they have higher download counts, higher total ratings, and higher average ratings than other apps that are more popular in the same category. I don't want to point to specific apps in this post, but it should be easy enough to find examples. If a Google employee is interested in specific examples, contact me directly. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
