Re: [android-developers] Re: Old dock in 2.1 SDK?
Does that mean we wont see the new interface on Moto Droid when it's released with the 2.1 update? I thought it was all part of 2.1. On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Romain Guy romain...@android.com wrote: Nexus One's launcher is not part of the SDK and is not required. On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 8:09 PM, alex gsm...@gmail.com wrote: Ouch, I mean the Launcher. What I'm seeing is the old sliding one. On Jan 12, 4:09 am, Romain Guy romain...@android.com wrote: What dock are you talking about? On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 5:58 PM, alex gsm...@gmail.com wrote: Why hasn't the new sexy dock been included in the SDK? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Romain Guy Android framework engineer romain...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Romain Guy Android framework engineer romain...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Old dock in 2.1 SDK?
Please don't go off making assumptions and getting all disgruntled about them. If nothing else, the new version of home does not yet support all apps in landscape (it wasn't needed for Nexus), so it is not generally usable yet. As far as apps which interact with the Home screen (like widgets and wallpapers) can't be relied upon to behave the same in the emulator as on a real handset, I have no idea what you are talking about. Application interaction with the home screen is very limited, and most of the significant interactions (setting and showing wallpapers, widgets) are defined by the platform, not the home app. Is there some specific interaction issue you have had with the home screen that has varied across devices? Plus the new home screen is a fork of the standard one, and so doesn't have any different behavior that apps could be aware of. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 1:11 AM, String sterling.ud...@googlemail.comwrote: On Jan 12, 8:56 am, Kevin Duffey andjar...@gmail.com wrote: Does that mean we wont see the new interface on Moto Droid when it's released with the 2.1 update? I thought it was all part of 2.1. It was mentioned in a different thread that the Home app is different in the emulator than on hardware phones. Presumably the emulator has the stock Android Home implementation? This difference wasn't obvious in previous releases - e.g., the 2.0 emulator's Home was visually indistinguishable from the Droid's - but it certainly is in 2.1. IOW, the N1's Home screen is another custom UI, like Sense or MotoBLUR. This is disappointing from two directions. First, it means that devices which we took to be bone stock Android - like Droid, and now the N1 - aren't really. They ALL have a custom Home UI, and apps which interact with the Home screen (like widgets and wallpapers) can't be relied upon to behave the same in the emulator as on a real handset. Second, it means that UI improvements (like the 3D effect in the N1's Launcher) aren't part of the OS, and can't be used in other apps without some serious hackery. This will unfortunately lead to a less consistent user experience, and a perpetuation of the criticisms that Android apps aren't as pretty as iPhone's. Which doesn't bother me per se, but it does seem to be important from a PR standpoint. String -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Old dock in 2.1 SDK?
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Kevin Duffey andjar...@gmail.com wrote: The animated wall papers is part of the SDK tho..right? I have yet to get 2.1 on my droid or emulator.. from the few blogs I've read about Nexus one, I thought this was part of 2.1 SDK, not just for Nexus. Yes, they are part of the SDK. It's possible that the live wallpaper choose was not included, but if so that is just something that should be fixed. -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Old dock in 2.1 SDK?
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.comwrote: On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Kevin Duffey andjar...@gmail.comwrote: The animated wall papers is part of the SDK tho..right? I have yet to get 2.1 on my droid or emulator.. from the few blogs I've read about Nexus one, I thought this was part of 2.1 SDK, not just for Nexus. Yes, they are part of the SDK. It's possible that the live wallpaper choose was not included, but if so that is just something that should be fixed. I believe the main issue is that the emulator doesn't provide an emulated OpenGL ES hardware, and as such the new Launcher and Live Wallpapers are extremely slow. I don't see any reason why not put these in the SDK as soon as we properly emulate that though. -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Old dock in 2.1 SDK?
The new home screen, as seen on the Nexus One, is excruciatingly slow on the emulator due to the software OpenGL renderer, so we packaged the older home application, as seen on other stock android. The LiveWallpaper chooser is part of the emulator system image. It is accessible through the old home application, which of course does support Livewallpapers. As for the live wallpapers themselves, they also use the OpenGL and are very slow so we did not include them either. However in the samples folder you can find CubeLiveWallpaper that will show you how to create them. Xav -- Xavier Ducrohet Android SDK Tech Lead Google Inc. Please do not send me questions directly. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Old dock in 2.1 SDK?
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 2:54 PM, String sterling.ud...@googlemail.comwrote: My leading app has deep interaction with Home, including a precursor to live wallpaper that I built long before 2.1. I've been getting reports that it doesn't work on the N1, but details are sketchy at this point, and I don't have access to an N1 myself to try it on. I don't use any unpublished APIs, but I do push the envelope of what's possible within the rules. And I have had issues with other home screen replacements (such as Samsung's), even if they officially adhere to the platform specs. Hence my disappointment that the N1's Home isn't part of the 2.1 core, meaning that I can't test against it on the emulator. What kinds of problems? The wallpaper API is... ummm... simple: set a wallpaper bitmap. Home gets told the wallpaper changed. It loads and displays it. The end. Anyway, as of 2.0 home doesn't have any involvement with the wallpaper at all. It just uses Theme.Wallpaper for its activity, which has the system put it on top of whatever the current wallpaper is. This is true for both the old and new launcher, and started with 2.0 in Droid so hasn't changed with either 2.1 or Nexus. -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Old dock in 2.1 SDK?
Nexus One's launcher is not part of the SDK and is not required. On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 8:09 PM, alex gsm...@gmail.com wrote: Ouch, I mean the Launcher. What I'm seeing is the old sliding one. On Jan 12, 4:09 am, Romain Guy romain...@android.com wrote: What dock are you talking about? On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 5:58 PM, alex gsm...@gmail.com wrote: Why hasn't the new sexy dock been included in the SDK? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Romain Guy Android framework engineer romain...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Romain Guy Android framework engineer romain...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
