Re: [android-developers] Re: Samsung Fascinate AVD definition

[TreKing]

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Anindo Ghosh  wrote:

> This thread amused me...
>
> Kostya, I've read other posts by you and your blog, you are probably one of
> the most helpful people in the Android community I've found so far.
> Thank you for being there!
>
> A perfect contrast to TreKing, who has been rather aptly described by the
> original poster, so I won't bother.
>

Seems rather unnecessary to bring up a month-old post for a cheap shot. How
was I aptly described? "Wise ass"? Because I wear that moniker proudly, so
thanks! =)

So sorry if I expect people to put a little bit of effort into solving their
own problems before asking people to do their work for them. I don't mind
being the bad cop to Kystya's good cop.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Samsung Fascinate AVD definition

[Kostya Vasilyev]

02.02.2011 10:34, Anindo Ghosh пишет:


Kostya, I've read other posts by you and your blog, you are probably 
one of the most helpful people in the Android community I've found so 
far.

Thank you for being there!


Thanks.

A perfect contrast to TreKing, who has been rather aptly described by 
the original poster, so I won't bother.


TreKing is like an army drill sergeant, he makes people figure things 
out themselves.


And that is very valuable, and is a special talent in itself.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Samsung Fascinate AVD definition

[Anindo Ghosh]

This thread amused me... 

Kostya, I've read other posts by you and your blog, you are probably one of 
the most helpful people in the Android community I've found so far. 
Thank you for being there!

A perfect contrast to TreKing, who has been rather aptly described by the 
original poster, so I won't bother.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Samsung Fascinate AVD definition

[Greg Pasquariello]

Well then, let's disagree.  If someone knew the actual answer, that would have 
been helpful to me.  Telling me to google it was not.

Regardless, I was able to get it later and all is well.

On Dec 17, 2010, at 8:45 AM, TreKing wrote:

> Damn, quite a trip this thread took since I went to bed =P
> 
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Greg Pasquariello  wrote:
> Where I was, I was unable to do much more than that short post, hoping for an 
> answer.
> 
> If you could connect to send an email to this group or connect to the the 
> Google Groups page to post there, I fail to see how you couldn't access even 
> the mobile version of Google.
> I know how to Google, I'm not retarded.
> 
> Then please state a little more information in your post when asking 
> questions. We only have your post to go off of - if you ask a simple query 
> that can easily be found on Google with no context, I can only assume you 
> haven't figured out Google. 
> Yet instead of an answer I got a snotty, smug message from someone who may 
> just be a great guy, but who felt it more important to show his intolerance 
> and attitude.
> 
> You got an answer - the answer was "use Google for something so simple". And 
> if you click the link, you get animated instructions on how to do just that, 
> followed by a ton of more answers. I don't see how my post showed 
> "intolerance and attitude".
> When people ask a question on this list, answer it if you know.  If you have 
> a good resource at your disposal, share it.  If not, then stay out of it.
> 
> I do have a good resource and I did share it - again, it's called Google.
> 
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Re: [android-developers] Re: Samsung Fascinate AVD definition

[TreKing]

Damn, quite a trip this thread took since I went to bed =P

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Greg Pasquariello  wrote:

> Where I was, I was unable to do much more than that short post, hoping for
> an answer.
>
If you could connect to send an email to this group or connect to the the
Google Groups page to post there, I fail to see how you couldn't access even
the mobile version of Google.

> I know how to Google, I'm not retarded.
>
Then please state a little more information in your post when asking
questions. We only have your post to go off of - if you ask a simple query
that can easily be found on Google with no context, I can only assume you
haven't figured out Google.

> Yet instead of an answer I got a snotty, smug message from someone who may
> just be a great guy, but who felt it more important to show his intolerance
> and attitude.
>
You got an answer - the answer was "use Google for something so simple". And
if you click the link, you get animated instructions on how to do just that,
followed by a ton of more answers. I don't see how my post showed
"intolerance and attitude".

> When people ask a question on this list, answer it if you know.  If you
> have a good resource at your disposal, share it.  If not, then stay out of
> it.
>
I do have a good resource and I did share it - again, it's called Google.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Samsung Fascinate AVD definition

[Greg Pasquariello]

On Dec 17, 2010, at 12:37 AM, Bob Kerns wrote:

> 
> 
> And no, I don't think it's reasonable to ask the list to do a google
> search for you just because you don't have a good internet connection
> at the moment. It's not a big deal, but I'm not buying your excuse.

I didn't.  I asked if anyone knew.  Thanks for your reply though.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Samsung Fascinate AVD definition

[Greg Pasquariello]

The value I used is the 240 AVD value, which is reasonably close to reality.  
The app is cool, it's a remote robot controller for one of the large toy 
companies.  I needed the pixel densities so that I could get correct scaling on 
the control buttons in the simulator.



On Dec 17, 2010, at 7:58 AM, Kostya Vasilyev wrote:

> 17.12.2010 17:49, Bob Kerns пишет:
>> "Imprecise" is the word I'd use. :=) I had some text in there I appear
>> to have dropped in simplifying my response, about "marketing
>> dimensions" vs reality, and quick estimation.  OVERSIMPLIFICATION
>> FAIL!
> 
> I have a ruler with inch marks (a rarity here in Russia, we use the metric 
> system) and did measure the screen, just out of curiosity. It's very close to 
> real 4".
> 
>> It should have occurred to me to use the aspect ratio to allocate the
>> four inches between vertical and horizontal. Fail again. Thanks,
>> Kostya, I hate getting things wrong and always appreciate quick
>> corrections.
> 
> You are welcome, Bob :)
> 
>> About the only thing I got right was that the information was right
>> there.
> 
> Yes, you were spot on about that. Actually, the screen is a (if not "the 
> most") distinctive feature of the Galaxy S.
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Re: [android-developers] Re: Samsung Fascinate AVD definition

[Kostya Vasilyev]

17.12.2010 17:49, Bob Kerns пишет:

"Imprecise" is the word I'd use. :=) I had some text in there I appear
to have dropped in simplifying my response, about "marketing
dimensions" vs reality, and quick estimation.  OVERSIMPLIFICATION
FAIL!


I have a ruler with inch marks (a rarity here in Russia, we use the 
metric system) and did measure the screen, just out of curiosity. It's 
very close to real 4".



It should have occurred to me to use the aspect ratio to allocate the
four inches between vertical and horizontal. Fail again. Thanks,
Kostya, I hate getting things wrong and always appreciate quick
corrections.


You are welcome, Bob :)


About the only thing I got right was that the information was right
there.


Yes, you were spot on about that. Actually, the screen is a (if not "the 
most") distinctive feature of the Galaxy S.


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Re: [android-developers] Re: Samsung Fascinate AVD definition

[Greg Pasquariello]

I posted a single message to the group. A short one. Because i had a crap
connection.  It was hours later that I posted a response.

This group is a resource. Where I was, I was unable to do much more than
that short post, hoping for an answer. I know how to Google, I'm not
retarded. Yet instead of an answer I got a snotty, smug message from someone
who may just be a great guy, but who felt it more important to show his
intolerance and attitude.

When people ask a question on this list, answer it if you know.  If you have
a good resource at your disposal, share it.  If not, then stay out of it.

On Dec 17, 2010 12:26 AM, "Brill Pappin"  wrote:
>
> You know what the real problem is?
>
> You came down snarky and "assholy" on someone who does nothing but help
people here, for some good natured ribbing of yourself, when you asked
something you could have easily looked up.
>
> Your defence was that you were somewhere you couldn't search yourself, yet
you were able to post more than one message to this group.
>
> That's why your getting just a wee bit of flame here.
>
> - Brill
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Re: [android-developers] Re: Samsung Fascinate AVD definition

[Kostya Vasilyev]

17.12.2010 10:37, Bob Kerns пишет:

800 pixels / 4 inches = 200 pixels/inch.


Um, no, this calculation is wrong.

4 inches is the diagonal size, whereas 800 pixels is along the long size 
of the screen.


Applying Pythagorean theorem gives screen size of 2,05 by 3,41 inches, 
or 234 pixels per inch.


Which is pretty darn close to Android's reference "high density" value 
of 240.


-- Kostya


To answer what may be your next question: this puts it squarely in the
hdpi region.


That it does.


And no, I don't think it's reasonable to ask the list to do a google
search for you just because you don't have a good internet connection
at the moment. It's not a big deal, but I'm not buying your excuse.

On Dec 16, 10:25 pm, Greg Pasquariello  wrote:

Really?  Based on the first result what do you think the pixel density is?

On Dec 16, 2010, at 11:22 PM, Bob Kerns wrote:








How about, in the very first result, with the application of
elementary-school arithmetic?
How about not asking hundreds of Android developers to do your google
search for you?
How about taking TreKing's gentle implied reprimand with a dose of
good grace and humor? He did, in fact, trouble himself to answer your
question, though you seem not to have recognized that.
But to keep it in perspective: at least you didn't ask us to write
your app for you! We even get asked to design what it should do.
On Dec 16, 9:47 pm, gpasq  wrote:

But now that I'm home and have better access I can probably find it myself.
Next time, if you don't know the answer, don't be such a wise ass please.
---
Cute. Seen it before.  Tell me where your clever answer shows me the
pixel density.
On Dec 16, 3:32 pm, TreKing  wrote:

[[LMGTFY link]]
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Re: [android-developers] Re: Samsung Fascinate AVD definition

[Brill Pappin]

You know what the real problem is?

You came down snarky and "assholy" on someone who does nothing but help 
people here, for some good natured ribbing of yourself, when you asked 
something you could have easily looked up.

Your defence was that you were somewhere you couldn't search yourself, yet 
you were able to post more than one message to this group.

That's why your getting just a wee bit of flame here.

- Brill

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Samsung Fascinate AVD definition

[Greg Pasquariello]

Really?  Based on the first result what do you think the pixel density is?

On Dec 16, 2010, at 11:22 PM, Bob Kerns wrote:

> How about, in the very first result, with the application of
> elementary-school arithmetic?
> 
> How about not asking hundreds of Android developers to do your google
> search for you?
> 
> How about taking TreKing's gentle implied reprimand with a dose of
> good grace and humor? He did, in fact, trouble himself to answer your
> question, though you seem not to have recognized that.
> 
> But to keep it in perspective: at least you didn't ask us to write
> your app for you! We even get asked to design what it should do.
> 
> On Dec 16, 9:47 pm, gpasq  wrote:
>> But now that I'm home and have better access I can probably find it myself.
>> Next time, if you don't know the answer, don't be such a wise ass please.
>> ---
>> Cute. Seen it before.  Tell me where your clever answer shows me the
>> pixel density.
>> 
>> On Dec 16, 3:32 pm, TreKing  wrote:
> 
> [[LMGTFY link]]
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