Re: [Angstrom-devel] Preparing for the release
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 SDG Systems schreef: SDG Systems will have one person available 10-20 hours per week to help with the Opie work. We will help to support the hx4700, and our TDS products. They will begin helping later this week. Could you coordinate the opie work with the two Pauls? regards, Koen - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] will go go away in december 2007, please use [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFHVZVKMkyGM64RGpERAtBlAJ9IaPPrxUYTg09+cHg0Pe6uyetXBgCeICgp WA+fEPFwhw/MpEUfUvPJR5Q= =LU3R -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Angstrom-distro-devel mailing list Angstrom-distro-devel@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-devel
Re: [Angstrom-devel] Preparing for the release
Todd Blumer wrote: SDG Systems will have one person available 10-20 hours per week to help with the Opie work. We will help to support the hx4700, and our TDS products. They will begin helping later this week. Wow, that's fantastic news! :) As Koen suggests, please let me know how we can best coordinate our efforts. Some things that I have been thinking about lately (which really apply to all of the GUIs, not just Opie): 1) Basic tests - it would be useful to have a list of things to test when trying images on each machine. Ideally most of these tests should be things that are likely to break on different hardware, ie. all buttons work as expected, suspend/resume, etc. 2) How to collect/manage test results. We will have our own test findings to record as well as those emailed in by testers. Would a wiki page be appropriate for this? Do we want a separate page for each hardware device? Are the Angstrom developers happy for Opie test results to be on these pages even though it is unsupported at the moment, or do we want a separate set of pages for each GUI environment? If no-one objects I will start to build up some pages on the LTG wiki for these two items. Cheers, Paul ___ Angstrom-distro-devel mailing list Angstrom-distro-devel@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-devel
Re: [Angstrom-devel] Preparing for the release
On Dec 4, 2007 3:11 PM, Paul Eggleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Todd Blumer wrote: SDG Systems will have one person available 10-20 hours per week to help with the Opie work. We will help to support the hx4700, and our TDS products. They will begin helping later this week. Wow, that's fantastic news! :) As Koen suggests, please let me know how we can best coordinate our efforts. Some things that I have been thinking about lately (which really apply to all of the GUIs, not just Opie): 1) Basic tests - it would be useful to have a list of things to test when trying images on each machine. Ideally most of these tests should be things that are likely to break on different hardware, ie. all buttons work as expected, suspend/resume, etc. 2) How to collect/manage test results. We will have our own test findings to record as well as those emailed in by testers. Would a wiki page be appropriate for this? Do we want a separate page for each hardware device? Are the Angstrom developers happy for Opie test results to be on these pages even though it is unsupported at the moment, or do we want a separate set of pages for each GUI environment? If no-one objects I will start to build up some pages on the LTG wiki for these two items. Sounds good. I have copied Ben, who will join the appropriate mailing lists, and begin communicating on what needs to be done for Opie. ___ Angstrom-distro-devel mailing list Angstrom-distro-devel@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-devel
Re: [Angstrom-devel] Preparing for the release
Hello Florian, Friday, November 30, 2007, 5:16:08 PM, you wrote: Hi, Paul Sokolovsky schrieb: I spent like 3 full work sessions on fixing obvious usability goofs in GPE - and that's only in the first-spot areas like suspend/resume, login, etc. I also start to wonder if I waste my time? Is I would love to get some more information about these issues. Time is limited, but with some more detailed information about current issues it would be much easier to help getting them fixed. First batch was submitted as http://bugs.linuxtogo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123 , 124, 125. Next batch has been just pushed to OE, I'll submit them to GPE bugtracker later - I'm very short of inet now ;-(. Just hope you can have a look at those in the meantime ;-). Greetings Florian -- Best regards, Paulmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Angstrom-distro-devel mailing list Angstrom-distro-devel@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-devel
Re: [Angstrom-devel] Preparing for the release
Hello Marcin, Wednesday, November 28, 2007, 10:35:12 AM, you wrote: [] GPE... I would like to see more OpenMoko components instead. But this needs some time as their Today application is a bit hardcoded now. I spent like 3 full work sessions on fixing obvious usability goofs in GPE - and that's only in the first-spot areas like suspend/resume, login, etc. I also start to wonder if I waste my time? Is openmoko-image buildable for Angstrom? I started to bitbake it, but saw that it's starts with building few *-native packages with the versions differing from normal angstrom images. -- Best regards, Paulmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Angstrom-distro-devel mailing list Angstrom-distro-devel@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-devel
Re: [Angstrom-devel] Preparing for the release
Hi, Paul Sokolovsky schrieb: I spent like 3 full work sessions on fixing obvious usability goofs in GPE - and that's only in the first-spot areas like suspend/resume, login, etc. I also start to wonder if I waste my time? Is I would love to get some more information about these issues. Time is limited, but with some more detailed information about current issues it would be much easier to help getting them fixed. Greetings Florian -- The dream of yesterday Florian Boor is the hope of todayTel: +49 271-771091-15 and the reality of tomorrow.Fax: +49 271-771091-19 [Robert Hutchings Goddard, 1904][EMAIL PROTECTED] 1D78 2D4D 6C53 1CA4 5588 D07B A8E7 940C 25B7 9A76 ___ Angstrom-distro-devel mailing list Angstrom-distro-devel@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-devel
Re: [Angstrom-devel] Preparing for the release
Dnia środa, 28 listopada 2007, Junqian Gordon Xu napisał: On 11/27/2007 04:14 PM, Michael Krelin wrote: OPIE won't be supported by Angstrom until there will be confirmed team supporting it. At the peak, there were 3 people on that team, then 2, now Michael and me only semi-online. If lack of general-availability distro support for OPIE is your pain point, then you're in good position to join this team. I'm watching this silently due to the lack of... well, let's say lack of myself :-), but I think it's time for me to chime in and state the obvious: one more more or less available maintainer won't hurt. +1 from me in support of opie. +1 from me too. Let get Ångström released first anyway. OPIE-Ångström team will then provide feeds and images for selected set of devices. From my brief test, opie seems a bit more mature than gpe on the Tosa. GPE... I would like to see more OpenMoko components instead. But this needs some time as their Today application is a bit hardcoded now. -- JID: hrw-jabber.org OpenEmbedded developer/consultant Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate... leads to suffering. -- Yoda ___ Angstrom-distro-devel mailing list Angstrom-distro-devel@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-devel
Re: [Angstrom-devel] Preparing for the release
OK. I guess I was waiting for the official Angstrom Opie maintainers to do these things, but if you are asking me to do them then I am happy to do so provided I have all the tools. OPIE won't be supported by Angstrom until there will be confirmed team supporting it. At the peak, there were 3 people on that team, then 2, now Michael and me only semi-online. If lack of general-availability distro support for OPIE is your pain point, then you're in good position to join this team. I'm watching this silently due to the lack of... well, let's say lack of myself :-), but I think it's time for me to chime in and state the obvious: one more more or less available maintainer won't hurt. Love, H ___ Angstrom-distro-devel mailing list Angstrom-distro-devel@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-devel
Re: [Angstrom-devel] Preparing for the release
On 11/27/2007 04:14 PM, Michael Krelin wrote: OK. I guess I was waiting for the official Angstrom Opie maintainers to do these things, but if you are asking me to do them then I am happy to do so provided I have all the tools. OPIE won't be supported by Angstrom until there will be confirmed team supporting it. At the peak, there were 3 people on that team, then 2, now Michael and me only semi-online. If lack of general-availability distro support for OPIE is your pain point, then you're in good position to join this team. I'm watching this silently due to the lack of... well, let's say lack of myself :-), but I think it's time for me to chime in and state the obvious: one more more or less available maintainer won't hurt. +1 from me in support of opie. From my brief test, opie seems a bit more mature than gpe on the Tosa. The burden of opie, nevertheless, is to bring up-to-date/test/repackage quite a few qtopia frontend packages in the user space, which I hope I can help while the opie developers can focus on opie itself. Regards Gordon ___ Angstrom-distro-devel mailing list Angstrom-distro-devel@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-devel
Re: [Angstrom-devel] Preparing for the release
Hello Paul, Friday, November 23, 2007, 10:25:53 AM, you wrote: On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, Koen Kooi wrote: [4] I'd like to delay the support of opie to after the release to avoid having another set of problems for the release; see remark [1] This is somewhat frustrating, but I can appreciate the situation you are in, and it is good to hear that you are at least thinking about us (thanks!) You here == we. Keep in mind though that Angstrom is currently the only hope of getting up-to-date versions of Opie into the hands of users, so I hope that later on is not too much later on than early January. It depends on noone else but people interested in OPIE themselves. Since all recent talks about OPIE, I still see no new images in http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/unsupported-images/ . So, why ask for something which doesn't have presuppositions for ready? Paul, I saw commits from your name in OE, so I assume you have commit access. Why not start building and uploading images now? Pointing finger at myself, with all the lacking Internet I have, I'm working on other issues, like crating an installation process suitable for mere user to pursue, and fixing what is official Angstrom GUI framework now. Cheers, Paul -- Best regards, Paulmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Angstrom-distro-devel mailing list Angstrom-distro-devel@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-devel
Re: [Angstrom-devel] Preparing for the release
Thanks for getting this started. 1) make a list of machines we can support *now*[1] I'm in posession of * SL-5500 * SL-5600 * SL-C750 * SL-C3200 I will reserve as much of one full day as necessary for testing images on these models (probably Friday or Saturday though). I have no opinion whether to include or exclude Opie, I'll agree with the majority here. Regards, :M: -- Michael 'Mickey' Lauer | IT-Freelancer | http://www.vanille-media.de ___ Angstrom-distro-devel mailing list Angstrom-distro-devel@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-devel
